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00:13:40 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
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01:57:38 <vf2nsr> OliverK can you shoot me a private message please?
01:58:24 <OliverK> dah
01:58:30 <OliverK> er, yes :)
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02:33:40 <JohnTHaller> hola
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02:34:15 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JohnTHaller
02:34:21 <JohnTHaller> hi ChrisMorgan
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02:34:37 <JohnTHaller> Figured you were on. Thought I'd stop by and check in.
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02:35:35 <JohnTHaller> How goes it
02:35:37 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net
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02:59:57 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan, I am installing hte new Launcher, I notriced it said to compile it ( which I probably will never do) to install the Unicode NSIS in a folder next to it does that mena the PA folder or in the Launcher folder...I know a stupid question
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03:13:47 <OliverK|Away> vf2nsr: X:\PortableApps
03:14:26 <vf2nsr> ok ty Oh OLiver remember the issue we spoke of still not working in new launcher so going to post a bug report
03:14:35 <OliverK|Away> k :)
03:17:06 <vf2nsr> and updated redbook as weill so people should be :)
03:22:24 <vf2nsr> How does one run a program with a "switch" on the end?
03:22:32 <vf2nsr> from command prompt?
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03:32:14 <OliverK|Away> vf2nsr: command prompt, or bat file
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03:32:37 <vf2nsr> hmm not working fo rme :(
03:32:51 <OliverK|Away> hehe, maybe quotes?
03:32:55 <OliverK|Away> what the program, etc
03:33:22 <vf2nsr> according to th programmer I can run rednotebook.exe -h and it will show me what cammand line arguments i can use
03:38:14 <vf2nsr> oh well no biggie
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03:49:30 <ChrisMorgan|away> vf2nsr: if you've got RedNotebookPortable.exe there all set up, you can do execute the following in Command Prompt: RedNotebookPortable.exe -h
03:50:04 <vf2nsr> ok let me try thanks
03:50:43 <vf2nsr> bbl
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04:12:04 <ChrisMorgan|away> JohnTHaller: I suppose you want me to release the PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0 Beta 3?
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04:13:38 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry I haven't been active just now, it's due to the fact that I'm in the Dandenong Bible Education Centre (our church shop) as a volunteer and we had people come in.
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04:25:41 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Hey, sorry, was afk for a bit
04:26:44 <ChrisMorgan> At some point I'm going to be going home. I'd intended to stay till later (we have a Bible class here tonight) but then I remembered I need to feed a friend's dogs.
04:27:18 <JohnTHaller> Ah, and it would be bad to skip that.
04:27:48 <ChrisMorgan> Yep. I don't think they'd like it much.
04:29:19 <JohnTHaller> I was just checking in. The 2.0 schedule is a bit in flux as my grandfather took a turn for the worse yesterday.
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05:07:58 <OliverK|Away> laters all
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10:31:36 <oliverb> does there exist a downloadable file documenting all the latest versions of the applications. Used to be able to use http://update.portableapps.com/platform/applications.ini
10:32:12 <oliverb> i am wanting an easy way to see what portable apps can be updated, given an installation
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13:29:38 <juli299> hi
13:32:35 <juli299> how can i create a .paf.exe?
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13:43:40 <GizmoBot> sar3th is a dev who likes games by valve very much
13:43:41 <Rickhard> Hi
13:44:05 <Rickhard> Can anyone help me?
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13:47:21 <Rickhard> Hello
13:47:37 <Rickhard> Everybody busy?
13:48:27 <Gizmokid2005> Rickhard: ask your questions
13:53:10 <Rickhard> It is like this I use PortableApps.com Platform a lot and many apps almost everyday and I do use windows Disk defragmentation on my USB Flash Drive. Part 1
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13:55:15 <Gizmokid2005> Rickhard: you should NOT use any defragmentation apps on your flash drive
13:55:24 <Gizmokid2005> that just puts more wear on your drive and will wear it out faster.
13:58:08 <Rickhard> Alright I was to believe that was a good thing. But wihat if it malfunctions and it was never Disk defragmentationed. I have sometimes files does wante to be deleted. What should I do? Reform the USB Flash Drive?
13:59:05 <Gizmokid2005> Rickhard: you'd want to do an error check on the drive
13:59:11 <Gizmokid2005> it may be going bad if it happens frequently.
13:59:51 <Rickhard> So not reform
14:00:03 <Gizmokid2005> it may help Rickhard, but not if the drive is going bad.
14:06:02 <Rickhard> But I dont like to reform because I use many apps. And some are not from PortableApps.com. Can I create a good backup Copy of my suite and apps. So when I reform and deleted everything. So can I restore everything. So buy a new cheap Good USB flash drive so I dont have to download and install everything. I try to copy everything just click copy.with right click and copy to a folder. And whern i did buy a new USB Flash Drive
14:07:23 <Rickhard> And used the copied folder
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14:09:52 <Rickhard> many errors started to come up
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14:13:00 <Rickhard> I am gonna go know. But thanks for the time and help
14:13:05 <Rickhard> now
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15:53:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello everyone
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16:03:08 <SteveLamerton> .seen ChrisMorgan
16:03:09 <GizmoBot> SteveLamerton: I last saw chrismorgan at 2010-04-07 04:29:03 UTC on #portableapps
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21:15:14 <JohnTHaller> hot out here today
21:15:37 <sar3th> that's cool ;)
21:16:00 <JohnTHaller> How goes it sar3th?
21:16:08 <ZachThibeau> howdy joby_toss
21:16:13 <JohnTHaller> hi Zac
21:16:19 <ZachThibeau> and howdy John I meant
21:16:39 <ZachThibeau> but nice to see you too joby
21:16:39 <sar3th> well, it's one of these days again :/ can't really get anything done
21:16:59 <sar3th> did i miss anything over the last 5 days JohnTHaller? and how goes it for you? :)
21:19:36 <sar3th> the redesign looks awesome :) the only thing i don't like is the font used to display the disk's name and free space
21:20:03 <JohnTHaller> Oh ignore that. It's just a part of the PSD for spacing
21:20:09 <sar3th> ah ok
21:20:21 <JohnTHaller> We're sticking with the font currently used for drive space for both drive name and space
21:20:37 <sar3th> good, i think it looks much better :)
21:20:58 <JohnTHaller> thanks. been a long time coming. should start pushing new apps with this 2.0 look late this week
21:22:43 <sar3th> yes :) looking forward to it
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21:59:16 <pa_9141> PA question
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22:01:47 <JohnTHaller> What do you need pa_9141?
22:01:54 <pa_9141> How can I gauge which PAs will work on Win NT4 SP6a? On the Application Compatibility page there is no column.
22:02:58 <pa_9141> Or is there a thread in the forums that discusses NT usage at all?
22:03:32 <JohnTHaller> We don't support Windows NT at all. Some apps may work, some may not. But we do no compatibility testing, so we don't say.
22:03:49 <JohnTHaller> Most apps don't even list whether they are compatible with WinNT anymore on their own sites as they don't test either.
22:04:12 <pa_9141> Thanks, that's what I suspected. So basically it's roll the dice and take my chances, eh?
22:04:55 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. I'd guess if a piece of software lists that it works on Win9x, it may work on WinNT 4. We're dropping Win 95/98/ME ourselves this month, though.
22:04:56 <pa_9141> That's okay. I figured it'd be worth a shot here. Thank you and g'day!
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22:06:15 <Question> I've got the next question.
22:07:01 <JohnTHaller> Shoot
22:07:37 <Question> Using XP SP3. How to create a keyboard shortcut for portable Apps?
22:08:52 <Question> it's closing down to taskbar so fast....
22:09:13 <Question> and maybe Alt+P for it to recall....
22:09:20 <JohnTHaller> it';
22:09:22 <Question> how to do?
22:09:40 <JohnTHaller> it's supposed to close as soon as you click something. it's a menu like the windows start menu. Win-ALT-SPACE will show or hide it at the moment
22:10:08 <Question> hey cool! its workin
22:10:09 <Question> thx!
22:10:16 <Question> thats what I searched for
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22:10:31 <Question> wow
22:10:33 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome
22:10:41 <Question> thx & bye!
22:10:49 <JohnTHaller> bye!
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22:13:29 <pa_0840> I've been trying to import my inbox folders (unsucessfully) and completely mucked up my settings. I can open my PA Thunderbird but can't send any emails, this is the error message I keep getting: message failed. Help!
22:14:41 <pa_0840> Message failed. An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server smtp.ntlworld.com. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' for that server
22:16:23 <JohnTHaller> I would suggest deleting and the recreating that outgoing server under account setting to be sure you set it up right.
22:16:31 <JohnTHaller> Keep in mind you may be blocked from using it from most networks
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22:22:34 <pa_0840> I've changed the incoming settings several times and not sure what it should be, the outgoing default is SMTP can't seem to change it to anything else. Incoming is IMAP. What will be blocked from most networks?
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22:25:49 <JohnTHaller> nearly any work or university network will block outgoing email over standard ports
22:26:03 <JohnTHaller> you need to ask your ISP how to set it up and what alternate ports they support, if any
22:26:36 <pa_0840> They don't support thunderbird
22:27:05 <JohnTHaller> you need to ask them what the proper setting are for any email client. we can't figure them out for you, they have to tell you
22:27:39 <JohnTHaller> but like I said, it also depends on your network. standard outgoing email is blocked on most network connections to prevent spambots.
22:29:09 <pa_0840> Right now I'm using it at home - no netword. I have an OE account, should it be the same as that
22:29:46 <JohnTHaller> home is a network as you use an ISP of some sort (cable provider, DSL, etc) to connect you to the internet. nearly all of them block outgoing connections on standard port 25 to any email server but their own
22:30:16 <JohnTHaller> it should be similar to the way OE is setup. Again, I recommend deleting the outgoing SMTP server in account settings and starting again, following the setting you know work in OE
22:31:08 <JohnTHaller> If you need additional info, Thunderbird Help is online here: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/ and their online forums are here: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/forums
22:36:13 <pa_0840> OK thanks I'll try them. I've just changed Account Settings / outgoing server (the choice is either SMTP or 'myname - SMTP. Still getting the same message.
22:36:55 <JohnTHaller> You're looking more for TB support itself. We really do more portable support... whether an app is working portable, etc.
22:37:08 <JohnTHaller> We don't make TB itself, we just make it portable.
22:38:00 <pa_0840> OK many thanks. BFN
22:38:23 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome. Good luck!
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