IRC Log from 2010-04-18
00:00:24 <vf2nsr> I meant that sarcastically as if you needed to answer all the questions he had not asked before he left
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00:02:43 <ZachThibeau> have you heard of a dramatic pause IE, making sure you got everything said "said"
00:03:51 <vf2nsr> yup makes the audience wait in anticipation
00:05:36 <ZachThibeau> well I paused for that reason (due to the fact I'm also sick which kind of makes it harder for me to think correctly too)
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00:10:10 <vf2nsr> np some people can be demanding his or hers loss
00:10:45 <ZachThibeau> true
00:14:04 <vf2nsr> anyone know how to implement a variable path in Java I am working on a program and I can successfully set the path for the PA drive but if the letter changes it doesn't change with it. I tried the usual %PAL:AppData%
00:24:18 <vf2nsr> is thi sone of those dramatic Pauses Zach?
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01:42:54 <ZachThibeau> sorry vf2nsr I was programming my latest project :P an snes emulator
01:43:50 <vf2nsr> NP I playing around and getting way weird results lol
01:45:18 <vf2nsr> I just figured it was a looooooooooong drmatic pause lol
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01:45:30 <vf2nsr> dramatic*
01:45:40 <ZachThibeau> nah that time I was distracted :P
01:47:02 <ZachThibeau> so far I made a python interface for libsnes (which is the library interface I'm using atm) next is working in c++
01:48:40 <vf2nsr> $Home.Data when I use that variable it goes and creates a folder in APP called AppName with a sub folder called $Home.Data instead of it going to AppData
01:49:15 <vf2nsr> but at least it IS going to the stick
01:51:25 <vf2nsr> I think I need more caffiene brb
01:54:39 <vf2nsr> Maybe I sould just be happy that it saves to stick and just do a move to the real data Dir
02:00:38 <vf2nsr> bbiab
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02:27:27 <vf2nsr> ZachThibeau, well I figure out that isssue now just got to figure how to make a file go to PA instead of localluser folder...the solution previously was way to easy just made default Data
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03:15:25 <vf2nsr> I am using the PA Launcher 2.beta 3 how can I move a file from PAL:appData to SERPROFILE% prior to execution then move it back prior to program closing?
03:16:04 <vf2nsr> Would I use the FilesToMove?
03:21:18 <vf2nsr> you alive scriptdaemon?
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03:33:13 <Scriptdaemon> vf2nsr, FilesMove
03:33:56 <Scriptdaemon> But wait, why are you moving it from AppData? Is it a configuration file?
03:34:02 <vf2nsr> thought so I think I had syntax wrong working on it now scriptdaemon TG for manual
03:34:14 <vf2nsr> it is a bootstrap file
03:34:27 <vf2nsr> remains in the USERPROFILE directory
03:35:01 <vf2nsr> so want to writ eit back there and then have it written back to AppData so as not to leave issues and so it can run portably
03:35:10 <Scriptdaemon> FilesMove might not work then. It's relative to the Data directory. You can try using ..\
03:35:26 <vf2nsr> that is where I am saving the PAl one
03:35:33 <vf2nsr> PAL
03:35:49 <vf2nsr> so if upgrades occur it does not get lost
03:36:13 <Scriptdaemon> If there's an upgrade, you should be redistributing the file again anyway, no?
03:36:48 <Scriptdaemon> I'm not really available to look into it atm, bbl. Sorry.
03:37:06 <vf2nsr> no it is the way the program creates a cfg file but calling it ,bootstrap
03:37:24 <vf2nsr> if it gets toasted the program reverts setting to original
03:37:27 <vf2nsr> this is what I have
03:37:34 <vf2nsr> "'%AppData%\jajuk.bootstrap="'SERPROFILE%'"
03:37:43 <vf2nsr> so now I guess I try it
03:39:27 <vf2nsr> nope that did not work
03:39:40 <vf2nsr> oops
03:40:23 <vf2nsr> "'%AppData%\jajuk.bootstrap="'SERPROFILE%'" maybe no quotes?
03:41:25 <Scriptdaemon> It's relative to the Data directory. That will not work.
03:41:38 <vf2nsr> so remove data reference?
03:42:08 <Scriptdaemon> ..\Data\jajuk.bootstrap=%USERPROFILE%
03:42:12 <Scriptdaemon> Something like that.
03:42:20 <Scriptdaemon> Don't know if it'd work though.
03:42:51 <vf2nsr> nope let me try something else I just thought of
03:43:46 <vf2nsr> hang on I think I may have it
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03:46:22 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
03:46:38 <SergentSiler> :D
03:47:17 <vf2nsr> Nope not moving it :(
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04:26:39 <vf2nsr> well that sure did not work scriptdaemon
04:28:31 <Scriptdaemon> Figured it wouldn't. You'd have to talk to Chris.
04:32:54 <vf2nsr> ok will do next time he on IRC of course he will probably tell me it can not be done and I should just stick to using PA and not trying to do thins I don't know about
04:54:26 <vf2nsr> well for giggles I also posted it in case me and Chris don't run into each other
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06:11:50 <gringoloco> hello there...
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06:34:14 <vf2nsr> tyvm gringoloco and I responded to you message in the forum!
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09:49:09 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
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10:01:12 <Chazz> Morning SteveLamerton :)
10:01:21 <Chazz> Hello pa_9250
10:01:29 <SteveLamerton> Hi Chazz :)
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10:14:20 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM
10:14:38 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
10:14:40 <MaienM> how are you?
10:23:45 <SteveLamerton> Ok thanks MaienM, hoping to get Toucan 3 released in the next couple of weeks
10:23:52 <SteveLamerton> Yourself?
10:24:05 <MaienM> not too bad either
10:24:17 <MaienM> how's the toucan on linux project going?
10:25:07 <SteveLamerton> It runs and works, just needs some tidying up, I plan to try and get it finished up this afternoon so I can add it to the current pre-release page
10:26:32 <MaienM> nice
10:27:00 <MaienM> I'll be sure to give it some testing then :)
10:27:49 <SteveLamerton> Great :)
10:28:29 <SteveLamerton> .seen ChrisMorgan
10:28:29 <GizmoBot> SteveLamerton: I last saw chrismorgan at 2010-04-17 07:26:44 UTC on #portableapps
10:36:40 <SteveLamerton> I am watching this thread like a hawk: http://portableapps.com/node/23228
10:40:38 <Chazz> SteveLamerton, I call troll on that post.
10:41:15 <SteveLamerton> Put it this way, if it doesn't sink down the listings I will lock it ;)
10:41:47 <Chazz> Awesome. ;P
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13:18:03 <ZachThibeau> morning everyone
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13:46:45 <Bloodsong> g'morning Giz
13:46:58 <Gizmokid2005> Hello Bloodsong
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17:51:18 <ZachThibeau> why hello there TimClark :)
17:52:13 <TimClark> Hello ZachThibeau
17:57:25 <ZachThibeau> whats new?
17:59:10 <TimClark> Nothing really, just same old same old
18:00:58 <ZachThibeau> very nice, the only thing that changed over my end is that my younger sister decided to become sick and then spread it to the rest of the family, she's now better and the rest of us are sick as a dog
18:04:02 <ZachThibeau> isn't stopping me from working on PChat though :)
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18:08:59 <TimClark> Sorry, I'm kinda distracted, deal with a sick child here as well, just had to take a temperture
18:09:08 <ZachThibeau> no worries
18:09:19 <ZachThibeau> seems there has been a bug been going around
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23:07:39 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!)
23:08:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
23:08:33 <ChrisMorgan> howdedoo ZachThibeau
23:09:40 <ZachThibeau> how are things with you today? :)
23:13:19 <ChrisMorgan> Today I need to finish off my FIT1029 assignment.
23:23:48 <ZachThibeau> sounds fun
23:23:52 <ZachThibeau> I think
23:24:54 <ChrisMorgan> The only question I have left in it starts with "Consider the Tower of Hanoi problem with the restriction that you are not allowed to move any disk from the left peg to the right peg, or the right peg to the left peg in one move."
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23:27:12 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan: I don't know if you've seen it yet, but could you remove the link in this thread? http://portableapps.com/node/23328
23:27:25 <Scriptdaemon> For the reasons I stated in the first reply
23:28:08 <ChrisMorgan> I saw it but didn't follow the link and so didn't notice that there was actually a file in there.
23:28:42 <ChrisMorgan> I think the SourceForge project approval team are getting downright sloppy in what they approve. It used to be quite common for them to reject projects.
23:29:01 <Scriptdaemon> They have an approval team?
23:29:20 <ChrisMorgan> I'm reporting it as an inappropriate project.
23:29:30 <Scriptdaemon> All of the projects I've created were instant.
23:29:41 <ChrisMorgan> If you go to create a project it at least used to require approval, which took around a week normally.
23:29:48 <ChrisMorgan> That was three or four years ago though.
23:30:01 <Scriptdaemon> Ah. Yeah, that's certainly no more.
23:30:33 <Scriptdaemon> I've specifically asked about my current project though, just to make sure I'm allowed to host all of my apps in one project.
23:31:24 <ChrisMorgan> We host lots of things in the one project...
23:32:02 <Scriptdaemon> But yours is more specific, I wasn't sure about a testing project.
23:32:20 <Scriptdaemon> Well, "ours?"
23:33:32 <Scriptdaemon> I should start finishing up Maxima Portable...
23:34:05 <Scriptdaemon> Question on opinion, should it be Maxima Portable or wxMaxima Portable? The actual app being launched ix wxMaxima, so...
23:34:10 <ChrisMorgan> I personally just put everything on chrismorgan.info. Much simpler.
23:34:10 <Scriptdaemon> is*
23:34:22 <ChrisMorgan> I think it should have been wxMaxima Portable all the way along.
23:34:35 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
23:34:49 <ChrisMorgan> If you were to include, for example, XMaxima as well (with a launcher) then I'd call it Maxima Portable.
23:35:13 <Scriptdaemon> Nah, I've used it and I didn't really like it.
23:35:21 <Scriptdaemon> wxMaxima is much better and easier.
23:35:51 <ChrisMorgan> (And that's not necessarily a bad idea. I used both extensively last year and with graphing things wxMaxima didn't work for me at all due to a missing graphics library in the distribution, whereas XMaxima uses GNUPlot which does a really nice job of it, especially on 3D graphs.)
23:35:53 <Scriptdaemon> And nobody seems to have requested it, so I don't think they care anyway.
23:36:06 <Scriptdaemon> Oh?
23:36:07 <ChrisMorgan> For normal use I used wxMaxima but when it came to graphing I switched to XMaxima.
23:36:08 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm.
23:36:16 <Scriptdaemon> Maybe I will then.
23:36:23 <Scriptdaemon> It's make a superior project.
23:36:25 <Scriptdaemon> It'd*
23:37:27 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, I'll go ahead and do that.
23:38:04 <Scriptdaemon> Does it explain in the manual how to generate two launchers?
23:39:46 <ChrisMorgan> No. Duplicate the executable.
23:41:25 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm. And having wxMaximaPortable.ini and XMaximaPortable.ini would do the trick?
23:44:11 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
23:45:08 <ChrisMorgan> They will store settings etc. in different locations, I think. If there's any overlap it will be safer to put a CloseEXE=wxMaximaPortable.exe in XMaximaPortable.ini and the other way round.
23:46:23 <Scriptdaemon> Does the .exe specifically look for an .ini with its own name, or whatever is in the Launcher directory?
23:47:00 <Scriptdaemon> Wait, I read that wrong.
23:48:52 <ChrisMorgan> xyz.exe will look for App\AppInfo\Launcher\xyz.ini