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01:50:08 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, request for PChat. Currently if you type /server *SERVER* if you're already in one, it disconnects you from it first. I suggest the ability (either default or add a parameter) that allows you to stay in the one(s) you're currently in as well.
01:54:24 <ZachThibeau> it's called /newserver
01:56:50 <Scriptdaemon> Bah.
01:56:58 <Scriptdaemon> K. >.>
02:20:43 <Scriptdaemon> I think Sauerbraten is ready for pre-release. (Well, the next DT I'm going to push out.)
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02:28:27 <PatrickPatience> FEVER.
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02:34:37 <PatrickPatience> Well it's been fun.
02:34:53 <PatrickPatience> Just left this over in the development channel: http://cl.ly/cu7
02:35:26 <Scriptdaemon> Hey PatrickPatience.
02:35:44 <PatrickPatience> Yo.
02:36:24 <PatrickPatience> You last uploaded oooon... December 18, 2009.
02:36:26 <PatrickPatience> Still developing?
02:36:31 <Scriptdaemon> You can delete my account if you haven't yet, bw.
02:36:34 <Scriptdaemon> I use Dropbox and SF now.
02:36:45 <Scriptdaemon> btw*
02:36:49 <PatrickPatience> Will do. Thanks for the heads up.
02:36:59 <PatrickPatience> Any files there that aren't yet mirrored or are we all good?
02:37:19 <Scriptdaemon> I have 'em all. I think I deleted everything of mine from your server anyway.
02:37:26 <PatrickPatience> Oh, sweet deal.
02:37:30 <Scriptdaemon> I have 6 or 7 DTs out now. :)
02:37:43 <PatrickPatience> Yo, has anyone seen Kevin Porter.
02:37:46 <PatrickPatience> Like, ever?
02:37:53 <Scriptdaemon> Nope.
02:39:16 <PatrickPatience> Haha: http://cl.ly/c95
02:39:55 <Scriptdaemon> Your server can tell the future!
02:40:10 <PatrickPatience> Yeah, I pay extra for that feature.
02:40:34 <PatrickPatience> http://cl.ly/ane
02:40:38 <PatrickPatience> Those kids still around?
02:40:41 <PatrickPatience> Brian? Jacob?
02:40:55 <PatrickPatience> So sad. I miss all of you.
02:41:22 <Scriptdaemon> Brian I haven't seen, and Jacob for awhile but then he posted a couple days ago somewhere I believe.
02:41:28 <PatrickPatience> Ahh.
02:41:32 <PatrickPatience> Good to see Simeon's still active.
02:41:45 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah. a couple are.
02:41:48 <Scriptdaemon> ,*
02:41:58 <Scriptdaemon> And then there are a few new ones.
02:42:13 <PatrickPatience> Fun fun.
02:43:21 <Scriptdaemon> I don't remember if you were here when he started it, but Chris' universal launcher (dubbed PortableApps.com Launcher) is almost good for official release.
02:43:33 <Scriptdaemon> That's made packaging a lot easier.
02:46:39 <PatrickPatience> Oh, wow.
02:46:42 <PatrickPatience> I was around.
02:46:47 <PatrickPatience> Never really looked at it.
02:47:51 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, it's made a lot of progress.
02:48:00 <PatrickPatience> Does John still kinda want nothing to do with IRC?
02:48:09 <PatrickPatience> Makes more sense to get the logs on to his server.
02:48:17 <PatrickPatience> Though the content isn't always appropriate.
02:48:25 <PatrickPatience> But they can be more or less hidden.
02:48:42 <Scriptdaemon> Oh, I thought you meant as far as apps go. I don't know regarding the logs.
02:49:05 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau forked XChat into PChat and that went official, though.
02:49:15 <PatrickPatience> Oh, yeah. Saw that.
02:49:46 <Scriptdaemon> We're going to rebuild it entirely in wxWidgets eventually.
02:53:04 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: what do you use for that?
02:53:19 <Gizmokid2005> I'd like the bandwidth feature...
02:53:57 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: What now? You lost me.
02:54:17 <Scriptdaemon> I think he means what do you use that produces those graphs.
02:54:26 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: this screenshot...what is it?? http://cl.ly/cu7
02:54:33 <PatrickPatience> Oh, SmarterStats.
02:54:38 <PatrickPatience> Came pre-installed. It's pretty good.
02:54:45 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
02:54:50 <Gizmokid2005> thanks, I'll have to look into it
02:57:02 <PatrickPatience> Yeah, there's actually bandwidth monitoring and graphs just for bandwidth too.
03:01:52 <PatrickPatience> Peace.
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03:11:02 <ZachThibeau> btw Scriptdaemon KevinPorter is usually online but not on freenode anymore, he frequents on msn and on dbdii407's irc channel so if Patrick is online ever again just pass that on to him :P
03:11:35 <dbdii407> s/channel/network
03:11:55 <ZachThibeau> my bad xD
03:12:00 <ZachThibeau> tired thats all
03:12:28 <ZachThibeau> been busy coding my snes emulator which is almost perfect
03:13:13 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau, Did he need Kevin or something?
03:13:48 <ZachThibeau> he was just wondering thats all
03:13:56 <dbdii407> Ah.
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03:15:35 <ZachThibeau> once I'm finished my snes emulator I may put it up for testing at portableapps.com :P
03:15:57 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau, My network for a second?
03:16:00 <ZachThibeau> so far entire emulator atm is 1.47 megs
03:16:05 <ZachThibeau> sure I'm already there
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05:58:43 <JohnTHaller> Hola
06:02:27 <JohnTHaller> Status Update posted: http://portableapps.com/node/23373
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06:30:17 <vf2nsr> bbiab on windows
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07:30:25 <pa_7727> hi
07:30:45 <pa_7727> can same of yuo help me? pls
07:31:27 <pa_7727> i have w7 and i don't remember which service i have to disable to use portable software
07:31:35 <pa_7727> thks
07:34:47 <pa_7727> help!
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07:35:01 <pa_7727> http://www.bitcity.it/news/11365/windows-7-diventa-piu-portable-con-la-chiavetta-usb.html
07:35:07 <pa_7727> sorry
07:35:27 <pa_7727> i have w7 and i don't remember which service i have to disable to use portable software?
07:36:06 <pa_7727> help! i have w7 and i don't remember which service i have to disable to use portable software
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07:36:21 <pa_7727> i have w7 and i don't remember which service i have to disable to use portable software
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08:07:14 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7727: you don't need to disable services to run portable software.
08:08:05 <pa_7727> the program dosen't start
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08:11:59 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7727: what do you mean by that? What are you doing to start it?
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08:21:07 <pa_7727> i try some programme ex ccleaner
08:21:57 <pa_7727> in a forumi find to disble a service u.. and i don't remember
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09:27:56 <Sharath> help!
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09:29:20 <Sharath> I run the portable app installer and get error windows can not access the specified device you may not have the appropriate permission to access the item
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09:30:47 <vf2nsr> ChrisMOrgan, I read your post re-read manual I see about DefaultData my question however is does the folder get moved back and forth or once it is sent to Data it stays there?
09:31:17 <vf2nsr> Also the quotes kiiled the java process so took them out but all other chamges made to ini
09:33:29 <Sharath> Any body can help with my query
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09:37:05 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
09:37:17 <SteveLamerton> Ah ha! ChrisMorgan just the person I wanted to see ;)
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09:48:42 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
09:49:12 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau, how are you?
09:49:25 <ZachThibeau> HAPPY :D
09:49:34 <ZachThibeau> part of my tax return came in today :D
09:49:53 <ZachThibeau> got over $1000 back now :)
09:51:14 <SteveLamerton> Wow, I can see why that would make you happy :D
09:58:41 <ZachThibeau> yup
09:58:55 <ZachThibeau> anyways I have work this morning, later every one
09:59:00 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Could you have a quick look over this: http://pastebin.com/ncGGTJwC for me?
09:59:07 <SteveLamerton> Just the release team nomination post
09:59:56 <ZachThibeau> looks pretty good actually
10:00:29 <ZachThibeau> if there are people willing to do this properly again that would be a great encourager :)
10:00:35 <SteveLamerton> Good :)
10:00:39 <SteveLamerton> Do you fancy it?
10:00:53 <ZachThibeau> yeah
10:00:57 <ZachThibeau> anyways gtg
10:01:25 <SteveLamerton> Bye :)
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10:01:53 <SteveLamerton> New release team nomination thread now up: http://portableapps.com/node/23375
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10:08:49 <SteveLamerton> ChrisMorgan: Are you there?
10:20:48 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: why did you want to see me?
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10:22:53 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: hmm, that netsplit did weird things. I didn't get your message from 10 minutes before my message at all (or any in any other channel) but my message got through...
10:22:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'm all here now though.
10:23:21 <SteveLamerton> Just a couple of things :) Firstly are the bits to make the nice Sphinx docs you use for PAL availiable anywhere? I use it for Toucan now too and I think the unified look would be nice
10:25:10 <SteveLamerton> Secondly I have been messing about with PAL recently but I don't think I can quite recreate what Toucan uses which is here: http://pastebin.com/dGaZuLZz
10:25:17 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: I could adapt it and commit it to the Toucan repository myself if you like, or just copy the _static directory.
10:26:07 <SteveLamerton> Ok, I'll take a look at the static folder, I noticed in your config file you have a paldocs extension, where did that come from?
10:26:31 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look in _ext
10:26:42 <ChrisMorgan> It just adds the directives/roles that I use.
10:26:55 <ChrisMorgan> And I'm about to change the index templates on those too to more simple, non-nested forms.
10:27:34 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, thanks, I'll have another go at it later I think :)
10:27:38 <ChrisMorgan> (Note the sys.path.append(os.path.abspath('_ext')))
10:28:43 <SteveLamerton> Ok
10:30:47 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for making a thread about the release team, I'm planning on trying to get it working properly this time too. I'm in the middle of reading Rapid Development and Code Complete which I'm finding very helpful. I think we need to start it off by coming up with a clear document with objectives, methods, requirements, et al.
10:31:33 <ChrisMorgan> At some point I may want to generate LaTeX documentation. Wonder what that'll be like.
10:32:18 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: why SW_HIDE when no parameters?
10:32:29 <SteveLamerton> LaTeX comes out quite nicely ::D
10:33:03 <SteveLamerton> ChrisMorgan: Because Toucan is actually a command line program ;) But when nothing is passed we only want the GUI, John doesn't like the command window in the background
10:33:36 <SteveLamerton> I agree with the release team by the way, I plan to nominate myself, I didn't have time before but I will make it this time
10:34:09 <ChrisMorgan> I think that we shouldn't just jump into it this time. I think we need a working group first to work all this sort of thing out. Then after that we can make more informed commitments.
10:34:49 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: so when parameters are passed you get the command line and no GUI, or GUI as well?
10:35:37 <SteveLamerton> You know, thinking about it I think that code is wrong anyway for 3.0, give me a second to check
10:36:02 <ChrisMorgan> I do have [Launch]:HideCommandLineWindow (which, come to think of it, I don't think I've actually tested) but that's unconditional. And it uses ExecDos::exec $ExecString
10:36:49 <ChrisMorgan> Using SW_HIDE does make more sense. I didn't think of it.
10:38:05 <ChrisMorgan> Why do you use the different working directories?
10:38:27 <ChrisMorgan> I would have thought you wouldn't need a working directory at all.
10:39:24 <SteveLamerton> No, you have to remember that code is old old old ;)
10:40:16 <SteveLamerton> Basically what I need to do with 3.0 is to, depending on the parameters given, potentially hide the command window, which is a pain
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10:40:32 <ChrisMorgan> Messy.
10:40:34 <ChrisMorgan> Hey markomlm
10:41:20 <ChrisMorgan> On Windows it's either a command line or a GUI application, isn't it? So once you'd made it GUI you couldn't use it as a command line application at all (it'd need to use a new console)?
10:41:21 <markomlm> hey ;-) ChrisMorgan @all. Some was quicker than me deleting the last spam...
10:41:27 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I think I might just swith to this: http://code.google.com/p/dualsubsystem/
10:41:27 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: that was me
10:41:44 <markomlm> did You delete the user too?
10:42:12 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: blocked, that's what we do
10:42:12 <SteveLamerton> markomlm: He beat me too
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10:42:35 <markomlm> thats what I've meant ;-)
10:42:38 <ChrisMorgan> I think I should lock that (3 year old) thread, that's the second horse* user that I've blocked on it.
10:43:28 <ChrisMorgan> There, that'll stop them on that thread at least.
10:43:29 <markomlm> Its the same user with sevaral account but allways the same spam text
10:43:39 <markomlm> but different links
10:44:26 <ChrisMorgan> And once it's two strikes on the same thread, it's easier to lock the thread... it might potentially help a bit.
10:46:10 <markomlm> I hope so
10:46:55 <markomlm> btw. ChrisMorgan:Great work on the new launcher :-)
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10:48:11 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: thanks :-) Have you had occasion to use it yet?
10:48:49 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: maybe I could extend the "custom segment" idea to put an option to override the whole Execute function.
10:49:01 <markomlm> I'll try to update the OpenOffice.org launcher step by step
10:49:55 <ChrisMorgan> I'd be interested to hear your experiences with it. Probably more than doing it myself, then I can get feedback from an experienced developer on migrating a complex project to it.
10:50:08 <markomlm> but first I have to translate the last 17 App pages to German
10:50:28 <SteveLamerton> ChrisMorgan: I think I'll just swap to dualsubsystem, then it should all work out as long as I can execture one program if I have command line parameters and another if I don't? I seem to remember there was an option for that
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10:52:01 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: that is possible and would work. But the reason why you use the console subsystem tends to be so that you can use std* from the window you were launched from - and an NSIS launcher is not run with the console subsystem, so you're still running it in a separate console whatever you do
10:52:39 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: there's also the possibility of sticking Toucan.exe in the main directory, if you could get it to look for its resources in App\Toucan.
10:53:41 <SteveLamerton> Yes, true enough, perhaps I shall just say you can only execute from the command line using Toucan itself, not ideal, but it might be the best we can do, I would just drop the main Toucan exe in the top level but I don't like having to drag the dlls up there too
10:53:59 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: oh, if only I had time to redo the entire website with Django... I have some really good ideas with it that I just don't have time to do, which would make maintenance, translation and translation maintenance so much easier, and far more efficient too... and the website would be *heaps* faster with a Django-powered site than with Drupal... and... and... *sigh*
10:54:54 <ChrisMorgan> If you can't do it with only toucan.exe then keep using a launcher. That's how the PAF spec goes.
10:56:48 <SteveLamerton> Yep, can't really have my own app not compliant ;) Time for some lunch I think, I'll email you or catch you some other time if there is anything I can suggest for PAL, bye all
10:58:20 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for talking, Steve :-)
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10:58:42 <Gringoloco> quote: maybe I could extend the "custom segment" idea to put an option to override the whole Execute function.
10:59:05 <Gringoloco> Not a bad idea for all segments, besides execute !
10:59:56 <Gringoloco> Segments Hooks.
11:00:58 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco: that's what the custom segment is for.
11:01:33 <ChrisMorgan> It might be worth while putting in a way to disable segments in the customisation file, though.
11:01:52 <ChrisMorgan> The point is that Execute is not a segment/hook. It's a function in its own right separate from all the segments.
11:02:18 <Gringoloco> Yes, but whenever making a custom code, I would like to overide the corresponding bit in PAL
11:02:36 <Gringoloco> Can't really find my english words today!
11:02:53 <ChrisMorgan> *sigh* so much to do and so little time. If I had a year of working full time I couldn't do all I've got in mind already with PortableApps.com.
11:03:11 <Gringoloco> But, do you see what I mean?
11:03:36 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco: why override? Normally to add should be sufficient, occasionally disabling existing bits might be useful, overriding would be a mess. Just disable and in the same hook provide different functionality
11:04:23 <ChrisMorgan> And developers doing that would need to be aware that turning off certain segment-hooks would break things in a royal way (mainly variable initialisation and things like that)
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11:05:12 <Gringoloco> Probably I mean dissabling then, Just if for a certain app PAL needs to behave slightly different, I would put that part in custom code..
11:05:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yep.
11:06:05 <Gringoloco> then it would be nice to be able to dissable the coresponding part in PAL
11:11:44 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco: on my schedule for 2.1: http://portableapps.com/node/23110
11:13:33 <Gringoloco> I'll let you know if I come across a situation like that again. I'm sure I did before !
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11:48:19 <Gringoloco> Arghh
11:50:15 <ChrisMorgan> Indeedy
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12:25:55 <GizmoBot> ...
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12:42:03 <Cage> HI
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12:42:45 <Cage> could you please help me out installing an application without having portable application format on my pocket hard drive
12:43:23 <Cage> i have already followed the step and copied the folder into portable applications folder but after refreshing it does not appear in my portable application list
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12:45:03 <Cage> Can anyone help plz
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15:07:20 <pa_7629> Hello, I just recently got ahold Portable apps and installed it to my external hard drive. Is there a way for portable apps to automatically start when the external drive is detected by the PC?
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15:14:00 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:14:08 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
15:14:39 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
15:15:10 <Gizmokid2005> it goes I do suppose. Having to schedule time to change my mind lately...but other than that...a bit of relaxation hoepfully this afternoon with some off-roading with a buddy and then this saturday with another buddy and family
15:16:05 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I hear you about time scheduling
15:34:06 <Gizmokid2005> so what's new with you JohnTHaller?
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16:49:41 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005, JohnTHaller, ZachThibeau, all
16:49:57 <sar3th> hi SteveLamerton
16:50:05 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th
16:50:13 <sar3th> how are things?
16:50:24 <SteveLamerton> Getting better I think, you?
16:50:52 <sar3th> i still got a lot of work to do, but i'm doing okay i think
16:51:04 <SteveLamerton> Good :)
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17:00:13 <JohnTHaller> hi SteveLamerton
17:00:18 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller
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17:08:29 <SteveLamerton> Release Team Discussion now up: http://portableapps.com/node/23377
17:11:43 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton, JohnTHaller
17:11:52 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
17:12:13 <ZachThibeau> just got my tax return
17:12:22 <ZachThibeau> built myself a pretty nice computer :)
17:12:28 <JohnTHaller> ah nice. gonna buy us all something? :-)
17:12:48 <ZachThibeau> lol, only if you are with student loans services of Canada :P
17:13:50 <JohnTHaller> Um, not last time I checked.
17:14:05 <JohnTHaller> But I got no tax returnn this year... so I was hoping someone else would buy me something with theirs :-P
17:14:39 <ZachThibeau> I have an account with student loan that is almost payed off so thats top of my list after my custom computer I just got built :P
17:15:12 <ZachThibeau> amd phenom II x550 clocked at 3.0ghz quad core :)
17:17:08 <ZachThibeau> 3gigs of ram, 450gig hard drive
17:18:07 <ZachThibeau> ati radeon hd 3450, :D almost perfection, just need to get up to 16gigs of ram, 1tb of hard drive space and then I'm cooking :P
17:18:14 <JohnTHaller> heh
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17:19:56 <SteveLamerton> No free goodies for us then ;)
17:27:42 <ZachThibeau> I still have to buy a full suit for my sisters wedding :P
17:28:10 <sar3th> release team? :O
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17:30:34 <JohnTHaller> sar3th: yeah, we're gonna reform the release team
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17:32:59 <sar3th> cool, i'll read up about the discussion in a minute :)
17:34:09 <SteveLamerton> sar3th: Feel free to contribute away :)
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18:06:45 <sar3th> i finished reading the announcement, and i like what i read so far =)
18:07:25 <sar3th> especially the proposed launcher solution (to accept custom launchers when the dev supports them)
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18:11:10 <sar3th> however, i do not completely agree with chris' post here: http://portableapps.com/node/23375#comment-147948
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18:12:10 <fcf_user4926> SteveLamerton: What windows 7 version does kidsafe crash on?
18:12:32 <SteveLamerton> fcf_user4926: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
18:12:38 <fcf_user4926> k thx
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18:21:08 <sar3th> back to work =(
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20:00:48 <markomlm> Howdy JohnTHaller ;-)
20:00:55 <sar3th> hi markomlm
20:01:07 <markomlm> hi sar3th
20:01:33 <sar3th> i see you saw the announcement =)
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20:03:04 <tdub> I just installed utorrent portable and it does not launch manually or through the PortableApps toolbar. What can I do to get it running?
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20:05:03 <Simeon> hi all
20:05:16 <Simeon> Hi John - hi Markomlm
20:05:32 <markomlm> sar3th :-) Hi Simeon
20:05:39 <Simeon> hi Sareth!
20:05:55 <sar3th> hello Simeon =)
20:06:17 <SteveLamerton> Night all
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20:06:44 <Simeon> hi Steve
20:07:06 <markomlm> Simeon:Only 17 pages left :-)
20:09:24 <tdub> I just asked this but I don't know if it went through so here's my question; I just installed utorrent portable and it does not launch manually or through the PortableApps toolbar. What can I do to get it running?
20:10:04 <markomlm> tdub:There is no easy answer
20:12:43 <tdub> Do you have any recommendations other than uninstalling and reinstalling (tried already and it didn't work).
20:17:30 <Simeon> is the drive ok? You could try checking it for errors.
20:18:30 <Simeon> do you have an overprotective firewall blocking one program from launching another?
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20:19:47 <Simeon> hi TimClark! Long time no see :)
20:20:20 <TimClark> shhh, support !! see you in -ot :P
20:21:44 <tdub> The drive is fine. I had just formatted it from FAT32 to NTFS as uTorrent wasn't letting me download squatch. and the regular uTorrent will run fine off the computer by itself.
20:23:49 <Simeon> and it doesnt start at all?
20:24:04 <Simeon> reinstall it and try again
20:26:42 <markomlm> bye :-)
20:26:46 <markomlm> :-)
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20:27:57 <tdub> @simeon: I have uninstalled everything portable apps related and portable apps itself and reinstalled it. When I try running it a black box resembling a DOS prompt will show for a second and then disappear and not do anything. It doesn't show up in the tray either.
20:28:28 <Simeon> not good. there shouldnt be any blyck box (=console window)
20:28:52 <Simeon> maybe the download got borked... did you cehck the integrity (=md5sum)
20:30:08 <tdub> How would I check the integrity?
20:31:18 <Simeon> if you rightclick on the exe, it should be signed. is it?
20:31:54 <Simeon> The easiest thing is to redownload as the black box appearing is a pretty good indicator that something is wrong.
20:32:34 <Simeon> Or you download http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable winmd5sum, install it and have it create a checksum. It should be f07f7dc9773a072bb508e8be3bcb4afa
20:33:13 <tdub> It says that it's signed by Rare Ideas, LLC.
20:35:26 <Simeon> thats good.
20:35:34 <Simeon> Could you try the md5sum?
20:39:07 <tdub> If I did it right (by opening the exe file in winmd) my checksum is 4e34aca436b2484f0e5384414018d836
20:40:28 <TimClark> which exe did you open with winmd tdub ?
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20:41:25 <tdub> E:\Portable Apps\PortableApps\uTorrentPortable\uTorrentPortable.exe
20:41:33 <tdub> I'll try the other exe if need be.
20:41:38 <TimClark> no the md5 is for the intaller
20:41:51 <TimClark> the one you downloaded
20:42:11 <TimClark> .....paf.exe <-------
20:42:14 <tdub> OHHHHH...........
20:43:17 <tdub> Installer: f07f7dc9773a072bb508e8be3bcb4afa
20:43:21 <Simeon> sorry tdub. I assumed too much.
20:43:28 <Simeon> thats the right one
20:44:04 <tdub> no probs. I'm not savvy in software but I certainly know how to build a mean computer!
20:44:25 <Simeon> is it your first try or did you already use the program?
20:44:40 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: could you perhaps of of assistence ?
20:45:05 <TimClark> * be of assistance
20:46:17 <tdub> I have used it before. It was working fine when I initially installed it but I had to format my drive so that it would be useful.
20:46:54 <TimClark> was it fat32 then ?
20:49:00 <Simeon> rename uTorrentPortable/Data touTorrentPortable/Data2, reinstall the *.paf package and retry to launch it.
20:54:11 <tdub> Thanks for the help I will try that later as I have to go. Thanks though!
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20:54:41 <Simeon> bye
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22:44:59 <Jawn_> When will I be able to use the Xmarks add-on with Chrome?
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