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05:24:48 <dboki89> Either John T Haller, or Chris (when you come online): You might want to note that some 20-30min ago your server reported "Drupal is offline"... I don't remember the rest of the message. It mentioned something about "indexing", but I really don't remember. If I realized you weren't online, I would have made a note of what it said. Maybe you should check your logs?
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07:36:29 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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16:54:15 <Gizmokid2005> UPDATED: KVIrc Portable 4 r4299 RC3 DT11: http://portableapps.com/node/18626
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17:58:28 <ZachThibeau> hello SteveLamerton and everyonelse :P
17:58:44 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
17:58:54 <ZachThibeau> whats up
18:00:42 <SteveLamerton> Not much, just trying to get the Toucan 3 translations sorted
18:01:07 <ZachThibeau> I'm still waiting for updated translations for PChat to come in :/
18:04:26 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, they are the bit I enjoy least about Toucan, we really need something like https://launchpad.net/+tour/translation
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18:32:22 <Gringoloco> ZachThibeau: I will work on your translation next weekend !
18:32:49 <Gringoloco> I just didn't have much time lately
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19:17:51 <pa_9011> Hello. I've using Thunderbird Portable without problems on WinXP Home for over a year without problems on an external HD L:
19:21:42 <pa_9011> I'm travelling now. I put L: on a Vista laptop. TP wouldn't run giving run error #2. All kinds of other things wouldn't run like wireless & sound, so I run recovery. The first time I ran TP it ran fine. The 2nd time and after it would not download yahoo and gmail saying SSL was disabled. The errmsg hinted at file permissions in Profile. I looked at quite a few files in Profile, no ReadOnly or Hidden. ANy suggestions on what
19:38:19 <Gringoloco> pa_9011: I'm sorry myself I do not have any experience with Thunderbird Portable. But I'm sure if you'll wait abit somebody else can help you !
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19:59:05 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
19:59:40 <digitxp> I just had an idea
19:59:51 <digitxp> maybe we can host software at archive.org
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20:02:30 <smna1129> My USB broke
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20:46:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
20:46:13 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
20:46:37 <ZachThibeau> not bad, found out the second half of my tax return is coming to me this thursday :)
20:47:11 <ZachThibeau> finally setup my new desktop and I'm loving the performance increase.
20:47:46 <JohnTHaller> where's my cut? :-D
20:48:11 <ZachThibeau> and now I'm just waiting for PChat translations to come in so I can get in a new dev test and lol I'll donate some on friday :P
20:48:55 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: You around?
20:49:10 <Gizmokid2005> yep
20:49:51 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/KVIrcPortable.jpg
20:49:56 <JohnTHaller> thar ya go
20:50:08 <Gizmokid2005> Oohh, lovin' the new background :D
20:50:10 <ZachThibeau> is this what I think it is? :P
20:50:20 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: nope. Just a PR splash :)
20:50:37 <ZachThibeau> kvirc going pre... Gizmokid2005 you ruin my sentences :P
20:50:39 <JohnTHaller> But yeah, that's with the new splash template :-) Just finalized it last week.
20:50:53 <Gizmokid2005> I definitely am digging it JohnTHaller
20:50:53 <ZachThibeau> very nice
20:51:12 <JohnTHaller> Starting on the release updates tonight and tomorrow, all of which will have that and the new installer graphics. Did you guys see those yet?
20:51:20 <Gizmokid2005> I don't think so
20:51:33 <ZachThibeau> I like how some parts of it still kind of looks like th old layout but yet shiny like the current layout
20:51:37 <ZachThibeau> **the
20:52:01 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, we're big believers in incremental design.
20:52:35 <ZachThibeau> well if it's a layout that works why redesign the wheel? :P that I can understand
20:53:05 <Gizmokid2005> saved JohnTHaller
20:53:53 <ZachThibeau> anyways my side project is coming along :)
20:54:14 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: if you got time, you want to update Songbird's while you're at it?
20:54:42 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Installer2.jpg
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20:55:48 <ZachThibeau> been making an snes emulator, last one I coded was using sdl, which had issues with frame rate causing video to speed up to fast, and then I switched to sfml which is very much like sdl but with sfml it allowed me to recode my emu with fewer lines of code making things a lot more simpler and make my fps rate to go to normal :)
20:55:53 <JohnTHaller> That's the new installer graphic starting today
20:56:01 <Gizmokid2005> definitely like it JohnTHaller
20:56:45 <JohnTHaller> I'm debating the PA.c logo on top vs bottom at the moment though. I think I want it a lil less prominent, especially for 3rd parties using PA.c Format
20:58:34 <ZachThibeau> brb finishing dinner dishes
20:59:17 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I like it where it is
21:00:03 <JohnTHaller> The BG was designed for it to be at the top. I was thinking the bottom because we have it there now, and it's a callout to the PA.c - Your Digital... that's on the bottom of the rest of it.
21:00:27 * digitxp likes the splash
21:01:01 <Gizmokid2005> I'll probably release the PR tomorrow with a new SVN update
21:01:30 <JohnTHaller> Cool. See if the KVIrc guys like the splash, too. I pulled the color of the name from the icon itself., but we can adjust to their liking.
21:01:39 <Gizmokid2005> oke doke
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21:24:30 <ZachThibeau> back, and it looks like you all waited for me :P
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21:54:10 <digitxp> is archive.org a good place to host software do you think?
21:57:04 <JohnTHaller> for modern software that's being actively used, I don't think so
22:08:04 <digitxp> ah
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22:18:19 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!)
22:22:29 <ChrisMorgan> Hey guys, anything interesting happening?
22:24:31 <JohnTHaller> Hey Chris. Not too much. Just prepping a batch of apps with the new splashes and install screens.
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22:27:00 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
22:28:43 <digitxp> what are some good new apps?
22:29:13 <JohnTHaller> No brand new apps in the last month. Been on hold pending the 2.0 format/installer update. But they'll start trickling out this week.
22:30:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
22:30:09 <digitxp> ah
22:30:40 <digitxp> (haven't been around lately--too much rss junk)
22:32:00 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I came across a free font which is very similar to the font used on the splash screens, Fontin Sans (http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/fontinsans.html); it's a very close match, the biggest difference I see is the l glyph which has no semi-serif as the current - commercial - font does.
22:35:05 <ChrisMorgan> As a matter of fact I'm using it myself for my own branding, that's why I was looking at fonts.
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22:39:09 <JohnTHaller> I don't know that we'll be distributing flash screen creation. It'd still require Photoshop CS4 or later due to the effects we use in it, so a font won't help that much.
22:43:28 <ChrisMorgan> Part of the reason I'd like to recreate it in Inkscape. I've made a start on a basic recreation of it, it's fairly straightforward with the current splash screen. (The new prototype you showed me might not be quite so easy but should still be possible.)
22:44:49 <JohnTHaller> The thing is, ultimately, Rare Ideas, LLC has to sign off on anything that's gonna have the trademark anyway, so this in no way will speed up apps being approved from one level to another. Even if the whole release team says yes to something, it can't get a trademarked splash screen until I (or soon one of our assistants) OKs it.
22:45:05 <ChrisMorgan> Assistants?
22:45:13 <JohnTHaller> The bottom line is that it isn't the splash screens holding anyone back.
22:45:18 <ChrisMorgan> Mostly I just prefer the idea of using open source software all the way. (Or in the case of fonts free is enough.)
22:45:51 <JohnTHaller> Employees. Or a selected community volunteer who signs off on some kind of legal contract (I need to ask my lawyer about it still).
22:46:31 <ChrisMorgan> Financial situation's getting better, is it? :-)
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22:50:46 <JohnTHaller> This is fgor after we get revenue, not now
22:51:28 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I suspected.
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23:00:47 <pa_9011> A little research has shown me that Windows Vista doesn't give you the necessary permisions to access an external drive from a WinXP system, so the whole purpose of ThurderbirdPortable is defeated.
23:01:45 <sar3th> that's a NTFS-related problem pa_9011, it can be fixed
23:01:54 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9011: sharing in vista is very much different than it is in XP or Win7
23:02:02 <Gizmokid2005> there's a few ways to fix it...but it depends on the situation
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23:13:46 <digitxp> I sorta like how the Mac Portableapps do it though: they use a Growl-style notification instead of a full-blown splash screen, which I think is much more functional outside of screencasts.
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23:32:42 <pa_9011> I found 3 different articles on how to fix that Vista external drive permission problem. All of them were vague on key details and none of them worked.
23:34:39 <Gizmokid2005> like I said, it's specific to the problem and OS version
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