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00:56:06 <pa_1773> I am using TB ver 3.0.4 with Lightning 1.0b1 and Enigmail 1.0.1 add-ons. Everything works fine for a few days, but invariably at some point the add ons disappear from the menu. When I try to access their Options via the Add-ons menu, Enigmail Options hangs up the Add-ons window and Lightning 1.0b1 just brings up the main TB preferences. I cannot see or use either Add-on.
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01:22:12 <OliverK|Away> UPDATE! Geany Portable 18.1.1 Debuts new multi-launch feature http://portableapps.com/node/18669
01:22:15 <OliverK|Away> :)
01:23:42 <vf2nsr> well done OliverK
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02:56:05 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, think Maxima Portable merits a launcher for Command Line Maxima as well? I've had one user say yes so far.
02:56:28 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't used Maxima through the command line. At the moment though I'd say no.
02:57:19 <Scriptdaemon> I've been a bit busy so I've gotten lost on the registry plugin issue, has that been fixed yet?
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02:58:59 <ChrisMorgan> It's really up to Gringoloco to fix it, in the Unicode NSIS Portable package; I think he's getting somewhere, slowly.
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03:11:08 <Scriptdaemon> Probably a dumb question, but has anyone tried Mono for .NET apps for PA.c?
03:14:59 <ZachThibeau> I make it a practice to not use .net apps as much as possible
03:15:09 <OliverK|Away> i don't use them
03:15:17 <OliverK|Away> not that I know of anyway
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03:29:44 <Scriptdaemon> Likewise, but users still might prefer some programs. If we can make mono a portable app, then we might be able to support .NET apps officially.
03:30:14 <Scriptdaemon> Seems kinda obvious, so I imagine I'm not the first one to think of it.
03:30:36 <OliverK|Away> depends how well mono cross supports .net
03:30:41 <OliverK|Away> .net is very tied into the system
03:31:06 <OliverK|Away> it may cause issues getting mono to tie into the .net, and then still trying to make it wrapped for portable use
03:31:39 <Scriptdaemon> Probably, but I'm just throwing out ideas.
03:32:04 <OliverK|Away> i know
03:32:16 <OliverK|Away> i wish it would work to, but realistically . . . .
03:32:35 <OliverK|Away> with all the versions and the tie-ins :(
03:33:24 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
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04:32:00 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK|Away: I haven't used Mono to run any .NET applications, but to get a general idea as to whether something should work in Wine, they have MoMA.
04:32:45 <OliverK|Away> ChrisMorgan: testing a application in WINE is NOT a suitable test over whether it will work on windows or not
04:33:05 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, I meant Mono
04:34:31 <OliverK|Away> huh?
04:34:52 <ChrisMorgan> MoMA will help to tell you if a given program should work in Wine.
04:35:06 <OliverK|Away> ah
04:35:18 <OliverK|Away> and I care why? I still run windows. I havne't gotten time to rebuild linux
04:35:28 <OliverK|Away> i'll be windows for a long time
04:35:51 <ChrisMorgan> ARGH! I keep on saying Wine :-/
04:35:55 <ChrisMorgan> I maent Mono again.
04:36:06 <ChrisMorgan> MoMA will help to tell you if a given .NET program should work in Mono.
04:36:12 <ChrisMorgan> *sigh*
04:36:33 <OliverK|Away> i don't care, I'll run it proper im .net
04:36:36 <OliverK|Away> in*
04:36:41 <OliverK|Away> but I don't need to :)
04:36:53 <ChrisMorgan> Nevertheless for considering deployment it could be useful.
04:37:19 <OliverK|Away> deployment how? in a commercial enviroment, it will be windows, reagardless of what YOU run
04:37:32 <OliverK|Away> and it would be run in .net proper
04:37:43 <OliverK|Away> it people don't have to to ass with it, it has to work from the get go
04:39:05 <ChrisMorgan> I mean for us if we were to consider deploying .NET applications with Mono.
04:40:05 <OliverK|Away> why? we have enough that's been promised and hasn't happened yet as it is!
04:40:35 <OliverK|Away> i'm off for calculus
04:41:15 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
04:41:21 <ChrisMorgan> Enjoy :-)
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13:54:22 <Lockszmith> Hi, I have - for a long time now - "defected" to one of the compatition - LiberKey, only waiting to return upon an auto-updater.
13:54:59 <Lockszmith> Now that the updater is being activly developed, I was wondering if there is any thing I can contribute in the form of development or testing
13:55:23 <Lockszmith> my development skills are a bit rusty, but my testing skills are available for the take.
13:55:51 <Lockszmith> I'd love to help out. and make PortableApps the MASTER of portable apps launcher.
13:56:16 <Lockszmith> Hope someone would acknoledge me soon.
13:57:09 <Lockszmith> Question in short: Where can I get the Portable Apps Updater? (latest trunk/head) and how can I help? (coding and/or testing)?
14:06:06 <Gizmokid2005> Lockszmith: right now, nowhere
14:06:09 <Gizmokid2005> it hasn't been released it
14:06:21 <Gizmokid2005> but is supposed to be in the next beta of the 2.0 Platform
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14:14:56 <Lockszmith> Thanks Gizmokid2005
14:15:03 <Gizmokid2005> You're welcome
14:15:56 <Lockszmith> I was wondering, who is developing it - I mean it is supposed to be GPL licenced, why develop it "hush-hush"? no SVN or git? collaboration could speed things up - or wouldn't it?
14:16:25 <Gizmokid2005> John, the main developer is the one writing the platform/updater
14:16:37 <Gizmokid2005> to my knowledge there is no public repo, but I could be wrong.
14:16:47 <Gizmokid2005> I think one of the main reasons, it is coded in Delphi
14:16:57 <Gizmokid2005> which requires the commercial version as well, not the free version
14:17:25 <Lockszmith> Well I hope to get a peek :-) - Let's hope being connected to this channel would give some insights.
14:17:47 <Lockszmith> it's been too long a break for me from IRC - I think more then 15 years
14:18:13 <Lockszmith> I need to restart the client, BRB
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14:26:30 <Lockszmith> back
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14:27:18 <Gizmokid2005> wb
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14:33:16 <sar3th> well delphi wouldn't be the problem, i am eager to get my hands on the src
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14:46:04 <sar3th> we should put up a petition to put the platform into a repo ;)
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