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01:14:35 <vf2nsr> dboki89 you running xp by any chance?
01:14:54 <dboki89> vf2nsr: yea, XP SP2 and SP3
01:15:11 <dboki89> and Vista now as well, but that one's not directly in the network
01:15:13 <dboki89> why?
01:15:22 <vf2nsr> can you do me a favor with Zaz launch it then hit the _ tp minimize it in XP
01:15:39 <vf2nsr> let me know if it minimizes or closes it please
01:15:53 <dboki89> ok, just a moment
01:15:56 <vf2nsr> do it from main screen
01:16:10 <vf2nsr> ok tyvm
01:16:57 <dboki89> it minimizes, the game continues to function properly :)
01:17:09 <dboki89> you're welcome
01:17:23 <vf2nsr> hmm ok then issue is on my enbd did you do it duing a gam e or on initial screen?
01:17:47 <dboki89> I minimized it in the main menu (initial screen)
01:18:00 <dboki89> I'll try ingame now
01:18:05 <vf2nsr> dang ok well then I know it is on my end appreciatre it
01:19:08 <dboki89> it still works if minimized during the game. I minimized it twice, and started it twice, just in case
01:19:52 <vf2nsr> :( wonder why when I miinimize it closes oh well at least not a bug in the game I sent off an email with your thoughts to programmer
01:20:57 <dboki89> vf2nsr: great :) about the crash, do you have any particular settings? I have all on default (including the splash screen when starting)...
01:21:24 <vf2nsr> No same settings as when I uploaded it
01:21:41 <vf2nsr> and it6 closes if I minimize durting a cgame as well
01:22:01 <vf2nsr> lety me double check
01:22:05 <dboki89> ok
01:23:01 <vf2nsr> nope just standard settings as when uplpoaded
01:23:13 <ChrisMorgan> Do I have the courage to commit my changes to make_release, and then: make_release "2.0 Release Candidate 2" - and hope that it all works as expected, doing the whole thing completely in one big bash script.
01:24:04 <vf2nsr> absolutely we can renick you to CourageousChris
01:24:12 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: yes, I think you do :)
01:24:13 <vf2nsr> ;)
01:25:10 <vf2nsr> Probably have IceBreakers ready this weekend duboki89 and a few others too
01:26:05 <dboki89> great :) by the way, it's "dboki". "duboki" means deep in my language :p
01:26:42 <dboki89> for names, it's easiest to just type first 2 letters, and hit TAB :)
01:26:50 <vf2nsr> oopa sorry I know someone on a chat program nicked duboki my error just brain cramped
01:26:58 <ChrisMorgan> Serbian?
01:27:00 <vf2nsr> ok did not know that
01:27:07 <vf2nsr> dboki89: cool
01:27:08 <dboki89> vf2nsr: it's ok
01:27:12 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: yea
01:27:15 <vf2nsr> I believe so
01:27:19 <ChrisMorgan> Google Translate to the rescue ;-)
01:27:25 <dboki89> :)
01:27:33 <ChrisMorgan> Seems strange, doesn't it; the whole build process for PAL running under Linux...
01:27:38 <dboki89> it's also Croatian, and Bosnian
01:28:15 <vf2nsr> CannonSmash looks real intreresting 3-d puing pong
01:28:24 <ChrisMorgan> Meh... http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#auto|en|duboki said Serbian :P
01:28:52 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: well, personally I wouldn't believe a pure Windows app should ever be coded completely by a non-windows folks, but you did an amazing job :D
01:29:29 <ChrisMorgan> When I started it I was a purely Windows chap, fortunately I grew out of it at the start of the year ;-)
01:29:55 <ChrisMorgan> I still use XP at Uni (though I could use Scientific Linux as well, dual boot systems).
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01:32:40 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: actually, this is Serbian: "дубоки". "duboki" in Latin is Croatian; but I guess Google Translate knows better :P kidding; about the OSes, all are good. I like both windows and linux-based ones. Only win is better supported for gaming. All else can be done on both, and my dad's office is completely under linux. No problems in the setup thus far :)
01:33:31 * ChrisMorgan takes the plunge: make_release "2.0 Release Candidate 2"
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01:34:39 <ChrisMorgan> Wow, it seems to have worked!
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01:43:59 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, was AFK. Does that mean all compiled successfully? Will it be officially released with all the other apps these days?
01:44:36 <ChrisMorgan> Possibly. Not entirely sure.
01:45:20 <ChrisMorgan> It won't be changing anything with the officially released apps, they'll still continue to use their existing launchers for the current large batch, after that they'll start migrating.
01:48:09 <dboki89> I thought it wouldn't. I remember John mentioning about 24h ago that he might start releasing some apps /today/, so it would be difficult to start bundling them all over again
01:49:42 <ChrisMorgan> It may be released as one of the apps in this round, but it won't be used for any of them.
01:50:52 <dboki89> that's actually what I asked, thanks :) I was wondering would it be officially released as "PortableApps Launcher Generator" or something, like you have the installer and such
01:51:33 <ChrisMorgan> It would be released as the PortableApps.com Launcher.
01:56:14 <dboki89> One more thing that puzzled me... Can one change/edit out the part from the PA Installer: When you create your own app as a portable app (PAL doesn't matter), so one's own app. If you create an installer for it using PA.com installer, under properties it always says "Copyright PortableApps.com" or something very similar to this - I'm asking this from memory... Since the app itself has nothing to do with PA, can one edit out that part or not?
01:56:52 <ChrisMorgan> The PortableApps.com Installer *is* copyright PortableApps.com.
01:57:02 <dboki89> So it's about the installer
01:57:35 <dboki89> it gives away the impression as PortableApps.com has *the app itself* under Copyright
01:58:32 <dboki89> it confused me in that manner, and I'm sure it confuses regular users as well. It really makes users think the app is copyrighted by PA... :(
02:07:57 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: Ok, one more question about that topic. Can some app be accepted by PA if the installer itself is manually coded, in that PortableApps Installer isn't used? If someone makes his own installer manually, puts his own company's copyright in the Properties and stuff?.. So it would be clearly shown the app itself has nothing to do with PA, other than it provides a version compatible with AP platform? That would be alright for copyright,
02:07:57 <dboki89> but would PA ever accept such an app?
02:08:37 <dboki89> *PA platform
02:08:56 <ChrisMorgan> Inclusion in the PortableApps.com Application Directory requires the app to be in the PortableApps.com Format. The PortableApps.com Format mandates use of the PortableApps.com Installer.
02:09:13 <dboki89> ok, thanks
02:09:18 <ChrisMorgan> i.e. no
02:10:28 <ChrisMorgan> So nothing should use .paf.exe unless it's a PAI-generated (Rare Ideas, LLC does have a [non-registered AFAIK] trademark on .paf.exe)
02:11:33 <dboki89> ok
02:13:29 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'm about to be headed off to Uni for half the afternoon. No more questions answered for you*.
02:13:51 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: ok, np :) Take care
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03:59:14 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon: you had to say that, didn't you :P
03:59:17 <ChrisMorgan> Found anything yet?
03:59:31 <Scriptdaemon> Maybe.
03:59:41 <ChrisMorgan> Just in case you have (well, rather because I've got a maths class), I'm leaving now :P
03:59:41 <Scriptdaemon> THough I don't think it's PAL-related.
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03:59:49 <Scriptdaemon> lol
03:59:59 <Scriptdaemon> Pft!
04:01:33 <Scriptdaemon> Since you tend to read the logs anyway: RegAlyzer doesn't want to launch from the launcher and I've *no* idea why. ProgramExecutable is correct (unless I've gone blind), setting the working directory didn't help, and there's no suspicious behavior when in debug mode.
04:01:52 <Scriptdaemon> It does launch when launching directly.
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05:33:35 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon, have you tried monitoring it in Process Explorer? Does the RegAlyzer process appear at all at any point?
05:34:15 <Scriptdaemon> One sec.
05:36:27 <Scriptdaemon> There are so many debug messages to click through now. :|
05:37:24 <ChrisMorgan> You don't need DEBUG_ALL, you only really need DEBUG_GLOBAL to go through the execute section (or nothing and just /watch/ it in Process Explorer)
05:40:06 <ChrisMorgan> Pity about that spammer false positive of mine and the way the user took it.
05:40:17 <JohnTHaller> I smoothed it over.
05:40:35 <JohnTHaller> btw - hi, just peaking in before bed
05:40:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, thanks for that. I've apologised too now that I've finished my maths test.
05:41:10 <ChrisMorgan> I think PAL is pretty much as stable as it's going to be for 2.0, RC2 is looking solid I think.
05:41:38 <JohnTHaller> Any outstanding issues? Except the reg having to be ANSI i mean
05:42:42 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco's put code in his plug-in to import the Unicode files. It works perfectly in Wine (and considerably faster too due to not needing to spawn another process which is slow).
05:43:38 <ChrisMorgan> The only outstanding issue with /that/ is that it doesn't cope with ANSI .reg files, which we'll need support for on upgrades; so Gringoloco's putting in some more code to pass that case on to regedit.exe (involves a special return code and then an ExecWait in the registry.nsh include)
05:43:59 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, for a brief second. Let me put WorkingDirectory back in one more time just in case.
05:44:06 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't get RC2 out yesterday because I decided I felt like working on the release process more. So now the only bit which requires manual work in making a release is updating the forum topic or making the page or whatever.
05:44:24 <ChrisMorgan> Should PAL have a different icon? Currently it's just the main PortableApps.com logo icon
05:44:47 <ChrisMorgan> Could also use the with USB disk one but then it's the same as PAI.
05:45:18 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: So we're waiting on gringoloco's code for the ANSI files for the 2.0 release still?
05:45:41 <ChrisMorgan> Of Unicode NSIS Portable, I'd say. We should shuffle it along to Pre-Release to help with that.
05:45:57 <JohnTHaller> Hmm. Maybe I'll make a new one based on the USB icon and a shortcut icon from Oxygen or something. That make sense?
05:45:58 <ChrisMorgan> I think we should release them simultaneously. They're co-dependant.
05:46:10 <JohnTHaller> True
05:46:10 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds OK to me.
05:46:21 <ChrisMorgan> s/dependant/dependent/
05:46:43 <JohnTHaller> I think we're gonna wholesale replace NSISPortable with NSIS Portable Unicode. We'll call it NSIS Portable (Unicode) as the name, but keep it in the same directory and the same AppID.
05:47:30 <Scriptdaemon> So then Zach will no longer do packages for NSIS?
05:47:35 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. The base product name /is/ Unicode NSIS, but it's ugly to call it Unicode NSIS Portable. NSIS Portable (Unicode) is neater.
05:47:53 <JohnTHaller> Sooner or later, NSIS itself will switch.
05:47:59 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon: the codebase for portability (PAL and the launcher.ini file) is identical
05:48:28 <JohnTHaller> And there's really no need for us to fully maintain an ANSI and a Unicode version of it. Especially as we're dropping ANSI support across the platform and format anyway.
05:48:28 <Scriptdaemon> Well I meant, the original NSIS will no longer be updated? (Until they go unicode at least)
05:48:41 <Scriptdaemon> K.
05:48:46 <ChrisMorgan> NSISP can switch to using everything from the NSISuP package with the only ammendment being the app name and the app itself.
05:48:58 <JohnTHaller> Yup.
05:49:23 <JohnTHaller> I'll up the package version to 2.46.0.1 so it gets picked up by the updater.
05:49:25 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'd recommend keeping it alive; there will be people that use NSIS and can't use Unicode NSIS yet. Just make it clear that for us, NSISu is the one we use.
05:49:31 <ChrisMorgan> That's a good idea.
05:49:46 <Scriptdaemon> Since I haven't seen BrianAll in awhile, I'm gonna up Keyfinder Portable and then go to bed (after working on RegAlyzer).
05:50:01 <JohnTHaller> I'll keep the old NSIS Portable on the page under a legacy version link. Maybe I'll update its appid to NSISPortableLegacy or ANSI
05:50:15 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe it would be a good idea to change the AppID of NSIS Portable to ANSINSISPortable or NSISaPortable
05:50:20 <JohnTHaller> heh
05:50:32 <ChrisMorgan> NSISaPortable, I think. That matches the NSISu thing, just the other way round.
05:50:40 <Scriptdaemon> And it looks cleaner.
05:50:54 <ChrisMorgan> ANSINSIS... nice mess of characters :D
05:51:13 <ChrisMorgan> And the app name to "NSIS Portable (ANSI)"
05:51:24 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
05:51:55 <ChrisMorgan> Ideally the updater will indicate the fork in the upgrade path and tell you you can update to NSIS Portable (ANSI) or NSIS Portable (Unicode)... ;-)
05:52:19 <JohnTHaller> I don't think we'll maintain NSIS Portable ANSI
05:53:12 <ChrisMorgan> Considering the (ir)regularity of releases, I think it's worth while maintaining for those that use NSIS for other purposes and can't use NSISu yet due to plugin/script incompatibility. I'd be willing to do updates for it.
05:53:45 <ChrisMorgan> I think there's unlikely to be another release of NSIS while we're still using it for our launchers, so I don't think it'll affect us at all. Just other uses of it.
05:53:47 <JohnTHaller> Just don't want to have an another app where we're essentially maintaining two branches and have that confuse users.
05:54:24 <Scriptdaemon> Without debugging I can't tell if the RegAlyzer.exe process ever comes up or not, but it did very briefly when I had debugging in. I'll look more into it tomorrow.
05:56:02 <Scriptdaemon> Keyfinder stores a list of registry keys where it can find product keys. Should I back this file up in case the user adds more to it? Doing so will force the user to overwrite it or manually edit it when Magical Jelly Bean updates it.
05:56:53 <Scriptdaemon> (Or they don't get any of the updated keys)
05:58:34 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe it would be clearer if it was just maintained as a legacy release, like with the Mozilla apps. So long as it's got a separate AppID so they can be maintained in parallel (if we maintain them).
06:00:49 * ChrisMorgan is going to try to update Data Crow Portable quickly
06:02:16 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Yeah, could maintain it that way. I'm working on an updater addition so that we can have some apps that only show up in update mode (not add mode). That would apply here.
06:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> Is there anything with the installer, format or updater which you'd like me to help you with?
06:04:43 <JohnTHaller> I'm good on them at the moment. Just put the finishing touched on the branding of the 2.0 installer about an hour ago actually.
06:05:03 <Scriptdaemon> lol. The installer for this is larger than the install size.
06:06:00 <ChrisMorgan> For complex data or executable intensive applications that sometimes happens.
06:07:00 <ChrisMorgan> And do send me a list of any more of the outdated applications you'd like help updating the contents of.
06:07:17 <JohnTHaller> Will do, thanks for the offer
06:11:41 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, I get to look back at how the launcher.ini files were at CPALT5...
06:12:25 <Scriptdaemon> I bet "Wow, I was stupid when I did this" will cross your mind a couple times.
06:12:32 <Scriptdaemon> I do that all the time for old projects.
06:12:52 <ChrisMorgan> Purely for CPALT, the usage of it was clean.
06:12:55 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I'm gonna start closing out for bed. Gnight all. More to come tomorrow
06:13:02 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
06:13:12 <Scriptdaemon> Night.
06:14:00 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I can probably even implement language switching in Data Crow now :-)
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06:16:39 <Scriptdaemon> Well shucks, I haven't done a worked example for you to look at yet. :(
06:16:40 <Scriptdaemon> =P
06:16:47 <Scriptdaemon> (Well, for the manual at least.)
06:17:04 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon, I can't understand your explanation of the .cfg file and what you're asking.
06:18:07 <Scriptdaemon> Maybe a pastebin of a few lines will help, hold on.
06:18:35 <ChrisMorgan> Where is it, what's it for, why would the user edit it, how would the user edit it, etc.
06:20:32 <Scriptdaemon> It's in %PAL:AppDir&\Keyfinder, it stores a list of the names of programs and the locations of their product keys, it's not exhaustive (the user can add more programs to the list), notepad.
06:21:07 <ChrisMorgan> What sort of size is the file? Well under say 100KB I presume?
06:21:17 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
06:21:19 <ChrisMorgan> I'd say keep it in DefaultData and Data then.
06:21:55 <Scriptdaemon> Alright. I'll do that tomorrow then.
06:22:40 <Scriptdaemon> Currently has 480 programs by default, and they update it every so often (it's community supported).
06:22:52 <ChrisMorgan> Come to think of it that'd be a problem.
06:23:02 <ChrisMorgan> You can't really merge in the changes.
06:23:12 <ChrisMorgan> And it's all in one file and there's nothing you can do about that?
06:23:17 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, which is why I thought to ask and didn't do it that way first.
06:23:54 <Scriptdaemon> I can ask them to support a user-defined .cfg file alongside it, but other than that I don't believe so.
06:24:16 <ChrisMorgan> Would it be possible to maintain two files: base and user additions and get the launcher to merge them into the main .cfg file each time?
06:24:20 <Scriptdaemon> That's actually not too bad of an idea.
06:24:31 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure what the format's like. That'd be quite easily possible if it'd work.
06:25:21 <ChrisMorgan> It's custom code, but pretty straightforward. No lines are going to be over 4096 characters long, are they?
06:25:59 <Scriptdaemon> Nah, the longest line is 200+.
06:26:09 <ChrisMorgan> Good.
06:26:21 <ChrisMorgan> So you won't have any trouble with ${NSIS_MAX_STRLEN}
06:26:29 <Scriptdaemon> I'll see if they're interested in doing it themselves, because that would be a good idea for the base app as well.
06:26:42 <ChrisMorgan> Indeed
06:26:47 <Scriptdaemon> I could even take a look at the code and patch it.
06:27:28 <Scriptdaemon> Hopefully I'll find time to do that this weekend.
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06:30:37 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... where /is/ the Keyfinder source code?
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06:33:43 <Scriptdaemon> https://sourceforge.net/projects/keyfinder/files/
06:34:13 <ChrisMorgan> Ah. That seems to be the only place. Not in a repository, not linked to from their site.
06:34:49 <Scriptdaemon> They even link to an old version of Keyfinder on their site. I should talk to them about that.
06:35:06 <ChrisMorgan> Ook. That *is* a bad thing.
06:36:30 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah. It's still being maintained though, the last update was in March 2010.
06:37:32 <Scriptdaemon> BrianAll has 2.1 packaged, so he must have switched back to the original version number when he went back to the original SF project.
06:37:41 <Scriptdaemon> Because the latest is 2.0.8
06:37:55 <Scriptdaemon> On SF*
06:38:08 <Scriptdaemon> (he = Keyfinder developer)
06:38:25 <ChrisMorgan> It looks like it'd be fairly straightforward to implement. Main.pas, procedure TForm1.ReadCfg.
06:38:38 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
06:38:50 <ChrisMorgan> (Vim's .pas syntax highlighting is for some reason woeful; it's not recognising // as comments and so ' inside them is messing it all up...
06:38:52 <ChrisMorgan> )
06:40:33 <ChrisMorgan> I'd just split the try..finally..end into a separate procedure with the file handle as an argument and invoke it twice.
06:41:11 <ChrisMorgan> Very simple to do, even without knowing any Pascal I think I could do it.
06:41:12 <Scriptdaemon> I haven't looked at the code yet, but I'll keep that in mind.
06:41:25 <Scriptdaemon> Unless you want to do it? =P
06:41:38 <Scriptdaemon> Seem you're already engaged in it, lol.
06:41:46 <ChrisMorgan> No. I'm going home :-)
06:42:04 <Scriptdaemon> And I'm going to bed. I'll look at it this weekend hopefully and talk to the devs.
06:42:05 <ChrisMorgan> (Some of the variables would also need shifting into this second procedure.)
06:42:10 <Scriptdaemon> Night.
06:42:15 <Scriptdaemon> Probably.
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09:13:47 <Guest48016> how do you open it on your usb
09:14:24 <Guest48016> is anyone going to answer me
09:14:26 <Guest48016> or what
09:14:31 <Guest48016> i need help
09:14:38 <Guest48016> ive only got mins
09:14:48 <Guest48016> ive only got 30mins
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09:15:26 <qwertymodo> perhaps if you were more specific in your question someone might have an idea how to help you
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09:16:03 <qwertymodo> ...or that...
09:20:45 <Gringoloco> That was a fast 30 mins
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09:39:45 <Gringoloco> Hi prapper
09:40:13 <prapper> Hi Gringoloco
09:40:34 <prapper> so talk me through what you want me to do here
09:40:42 <Gringoloco> I've had a wrestle match with regedit
09:41:12 <prapper> are you winning?
09:41:35 <Gringoloco> Just see what happens if you double click on HKLM reg file of PDF-XChangeViewer
09:42:02 <Gringoloco> Windows just doesn't like the \r or \n
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09:43:23 <Gringoloco> I end up with just empty values in my registry
09:43:28 <prapper> OK, I merged it but there's nothing in there!
09:43:36 <dboki89> Gringoloco: Hi there :) Do you happen to have Windows Vista?
09:43:42 <prapper> Same here
09:43:48 <Gringoloco> Nah, no Vista
09:44:31 <Gringoloco> prapper: do you confirm Windows XP can't handle these values
09:44:32 <Gringoloco> ?
09:45:06 <prapper> Yes, empty values
09:46:03 <dboki89> darn.. I ask because RegShot refuses to work under Vista. It takes the shot and just halts. I remember scriptdaemon mentioned something like that, he probably has Vista as well... Do you guys need any help checking something on XP?
09:46:42 <Gringoloco> prapper: and what happens when you start PDF-XChangeViewer
09:46:55 <Gringoloco> and save the file manually
09:48:34 <Gringoloco> even if I restore the manually saved file, the registry just shows empty values ???
09:49:55 <prapper> Yeah, exactly the same here
09:50:18 <Gringoloco> But no \r or \n in the manually saved file???
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09:51:05 <prapper> No, not in there
09:51:44 <Gringoloco> Very buggy, I think I just keep on supporting the escape sequences thought!
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09:52:22 <Gringoloco> Atleast the work propperly in the new plug-in
09:52:43 <prapper> All tests were successful :-)
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09:53:28 <Gringoloco> Yes, and it supports Wine as well
09:54:19 <prapper> The winos will be pleased :-)
09:54:40 <Gringoloco> prapper: Did you never realized that issue in PDF-XChangeViewer?
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09:55:14 <prapper> Never spotted it :-(
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10:03:15 <prapper> But pdfx saves and restores them ok though doesn't it?
10:06:49 <Gringoloco> The launcher does not, but pdfx just re-writes it self on every startup, and I do not think it does actually save any settings in them
10:07:36 <Gringoloco> So it shouldn't really be a big thing, but the new plug-in should be able to support propper behaviour
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10:09:06 <Gringoloco> I can not believe the haviour discussed before is proper behavior of Windows
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10:38:15 <Gringoloco> Ok thanx prapper , I've got to go now
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10:48:45 <dboki89> If admins care about it, the links to "Live Support Chat" are wrong in 3 places on page http://portableapps.com/support/chat under "Configuring Pidgin" , XChat and Miranda respectively. The links are http://portableapps.com/support/support/chat/live and lead to nowhere fast
10:49:46 <dboki89> Obviously no one used them yet, since I'm guessing this is the first report about the problem... Cheers :)
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11:15:13 <Mike_Para> Hello, i was just wondering if any1 could assist me with something. I was wondering if there was a way to create shortcuts in portableapps menu to non portableapps programs?
11:18:09 <ChrisMorgan> .def addingapps
11:18:09 <GizmoBot> addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details.
11:18:14 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look just below there
11:19:10 <Mike_Para> thank you!
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20:25:51 <barjavel.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them
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20:26:09 <Shane__> but I need my drive pasword protected i looked in options and see no option for that?
20:26:17 <Gizmokid2005> Shane__: that isn't an option yet
20:26:36 <Shane__> is there secondary software?
20:26:43 <Gizmokid2005> not really
20:26:49 <Gizmokid2005> not one that doesn't require admin priveleges
20:26:58 <Gizmokid2005> there's TrueCrypt and FreeOTFE
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23:40:46 <dboki89> Scriptdaemon: Hello :) Can you tell me on which OS RegShot refuses to work for you? You posted about it a while ago..
23:41:31 <Scriptdaemon> Windows 7.
23:43:04 <dboki89> hm... So I'm guessing it's only good for XP? It always halts under Vista; a freshly installed and updated 32bit Windows Vista, I might add.. :(
23:43:07 <Scriptdaemon> I should try again though. It used to work, then after awhile for a few days it just crashed at random times.
23:43:21 <Scriptdaemon> Oh? Hmm, that might be then.
23:43:43 <dboki89> it runs, takes the shot and just halts
23:45:21 <Scriptdaemon> Which is why I wish they would maintain it again, to update it for Vista and 7, and Chris had the (great) idea to ignore "clutter" (the keys we ignore when we package stuff).
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23:46:46 <dboki89> That "clutter-ignore" would be awesome :) Hey, it just occured to me - it might be some update that is preventing RegShot from working? If it worked before, but stopped working...
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