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01:39:59 <SaintlyMic> Is anyone visible at this time?
01:40:14 <ChrisMorgan> Sure
01:40:20 <SaintlyMic> Thanks.
01:41:02 <SaintlyMic> I have tried everything I can to get AssaultCube to work, but I keep getting an AssaultCube Fatal Error.
01:41:48 <SaintlyMic> The error is a win32 error.
01:42:21 <SaintlyMic> Do you know of this error in AssaultCube?
01:42:28 <ChrisMorgan> This is probably a problem in AssaultCube, possibly arising from a graphics card incompatibility - try searching the web for the error code it reports and things like that. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=assaultcube+fatal+error
01:42:43 <SaintlyMic> Thank you.
01:43:29 <SaintlyMic> I will search through that link.
01:43:45 <SaintlyMic> Hopefully I do not have to return, lol.
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02:12:09 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan, what do you do if you have a program you want to package but it does not have a version number, do you create one fo r it?
02:12:22 <ChrisMorgan> It WHAT!?
02:13:00 <vf2nsr> the program
02:13:03 <ChrisMorgan> You don't package the app at all - if it really doesn't have a version number then the author probably doesn't know what they're doing...
02:13:22 <vf2nsr> ok re-package
02:13:31 <ChrisMorgan> :P
02:13:53 <vf2nsr> it appears to have been updated and is new but no version numbres i SEE OF
02:13:53 <ChrisMorgan> What is it?
02:14:14 <vf2nsr> https://sourceforge.net/projects/irrflightchung/ A FLIGHT SIMULATOR
02:14:24 <vf2nsr> and Very portable
02:15:28 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: does it have a version information table in the executable?
02:15:54 <ChrisMorgan> (The thing you view in the Properties window Explorer)
02:16:10 <vf2nsr> let me double check
02:16:36 <vf2nsr> nothing
02:17:02 <vf2nsr> I will check out each file though
02:17:04 <ChrisMorgan> What you do is you contact the author. (a) it's bad not to and (b) it's not a very good idea to have no history - they're overwriting the file on SourceForge every time, bad idea.
02:17:07 <vf2nsr> maybe somewhere
02:17:45 <vf2nsr> I usually do write to the authors and I agree it should have version numbers was just wondering
02:18:21 <ChrisMorgan> It surprises me not inconsiderably that someone can be skilled enough to create such a program, and yet leave something as elemental as version numbering out.
02:20:07 <vf2nsr> me too it is actually quite sophisticated...I still trying to figure which key presses get me off the ground lol ;)
02:21:10 <ChrisMorgan> Quite small too.
02:21:49 <vf2nsr> yup
02:22:05 <vf2nsr> all it needs is a laucher and assorted PA formatted stuff
02:24:22 <ChrisMorgan> The guy seems to have gone overboard making different (but as far as I can see often very similar) things... http://sourceforge.net/users/nguyenc
02:25:28 <vf2nsr> they are all part of hte one program
02:25:41 <vf2nsr> me thinks he uploaded the raw then added features daily
02:25:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'm meaning the "My Projects" block.
02:26:28 <ChrisMorgan> chung_edit, draculus, echo_chung, flight_chung, flightGL_chung, irr_chung, irrflight_chung, laby_chung, midi_chung, midirec_chung, mp3_chung, pirates_chung, spaceGL_chung, start_chung, tanks_chung
02:27:01 <vf2nsr> ok now I see it was on my blind eye side had to turn head
02:27:55 <vf2nsr> maybe he should relase them all together as a suite lol
02:29:04 <vf2nsr> he could set it up with his start_chung
02:29:27 <ChrisMorgan> He could also throw away the _chung on all of them...
02:29:39 <vf2nsr> :)
02:30:01 <vf2nsr> that is his name
02:30:26 <vf2nsr> NGUYEN.Chung
02:33:41 <vf2nsr> well I sent him a question through his forum, thanks for help
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05:22:26 <mickeyj4j> hi all is anyone on here atm i have a few questions i can ask
05:23:13 <mickeyj4j> helllo
05:24:01 <mickeyj4j> hello wht is teh latest pam out there has been lots of talk and i want clarification
05:24:29 <mickeyj4j> there forums can be confusing at times because there are alot of similar or basicly repated posts
05:26:16 <mickeyj4j> i guess there are not many ppl using live chat
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05:34:52 <Its-Me-Again> ok noone is here atm
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09:49:08 <Its-Me-Again> hi wats teh latest from the portable chat here
09:50:14 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing in particular. Were you thinking of anything in specific?
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18:56:48 <pyromaniac> I'm back
18:56:51 <pyromaniac> help!
18:56:51 <GizmoBot> pyromaniac: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
18:57:32 <pyromaniac> I'm still having problems with handling the registry in Trillian Astra Portable
18:58:35 <pyromaniac> I think the settings are stored there and when I changed the paths to the files, as was advised by Chris, the launcher can't seem to save the settings
18:59:09 <pyromaniac> the registry (.reg) files are 1KB instead or 2KB
18:59:19 <pyromaniac> and I think that was a giveaway
19:04:26 <pyromaniac> oh here is the link: http://pastestuff.com/jJJa/
19:05:12 <pyromaniac> also, its deleting the settings from the host PC
19:05:46 <pyromaniac> I think that the way Chris told me to handle the registry is not working
19:06:15 <pyromaniac> ...I wonder where everyone is...?
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19:36:28 <pyromaniac> gluxon!
19:36:36 <pyromaniac> didn't see you there!
19:36:46 <pyromaniac> can I PM you?
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19:56:52 <Gringoloco> pyromaniac: You would make it yourself so much easier to use PAL or at least a template of a proven launcher...
19:57:02 <Gringoloco> why to try to re-invent the wheel
19:59:11 <gluxon> Gringoloco: Because then future generations won't know how to :P
20:04:30 <Gringoloco> Personaly I would say, first observe the wheel, find out how and why it works, before reproducing one from scrach, so you could pass on the info what was already known about it
20:04:58 <Gringoloco> to the future genarations :P
20:05:19 <gluxon> I can't argue with that :P
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20:20:26 <Gringoloco> Is it just me or is the FoxitReadedPortable download broken? http://portableapps.com/apps/office/foxit_reader_portable
20:22:57 <gluxon> The acutal download, or the online download?
20:23:17 <gluxon> For the actual foxit reader app?
20:24:25 <Gringoloco> ??? the actual I suppose, this is the download link http://portableapps.com/bouncer?t=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.portableapps.com%2Fportableapps%2Ffoxitreaderportable%2FFoxitReaderPortable_3.2.1.paf.exe
20:24:47 <Gringoloco> Foxit ReaderPortable 3.2.1
20:25:40 <gluxon> Fine for me.
20:26:16 <Gringoloco> Good :) Must be something on my site !
20:27:35 <Gringoloco> I think it handles file associations, could be an example for pyromaniac
20:27:58 <Gringoloco> for the registry handling
20:28:39 <pyromaniac> did you look at the launcher?
20:28:50 <Gringoloco> Yes
20:28:59 <Gringoloco> at the script anyway
20:29:02 <pyromaniac> what do you think I should do?
20:29:41 <pyromaniac> I looked at 4 or 5 or more launchers when I did mine.
20:29:54 <gluxon> By any chance, did you look up one of my older ones? :P
20:29:58 <pyromaniac> but I was lost in most of them
20:30:09 <Gringoloco> At least follow your labels, they do not seem to add up
20:30:09 <pyromaniac> so I did each of the commands on my own
20:30:22 <pyromaniac> like where?
20:30:57 <gluxon> pyromaniac: You also have some code that should go into the installer.
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20:36:27 <Gringoloco> He, I was trying to help...
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20:38:11 <Gringoloco> pyromaniac: Lets start on th top of the script and go down from there...
20:38:44 <Gringoloco> What is your intension of registry::MoveValue ?
20:40:09 <pyromaniac> if the host PC has a registry key stored from a local copy of trillian, its gonna move it so as to not conflict with the portable version
20:41:29 <Gringoloco> But what is $TEMP doing in there, and why not move the line down to be together with the rest of the registry handling?
20:43:06 <pyromaniac> one sec
20:59:09 <Gringoloco> Deluge Portable 44MB for a bit torrent client ? Must be a very fancy app !
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21:02:34 <gluxon> Gringoloco: Just curious, how long have you been here?
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21:03:40 <gluxon> Here as in PortableApps.com
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21:31:46 <Gringoloco> gluxon: a small year, I think. (sorry, lose connection sometimes)
21:33:45 <Gringoloco> But got more involved in the past 6 months
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21:48:13 <gluxon> Gringoloco: Oh. okay :)
21:50:55 <Gringoloco> gluxon: Can I use eclipse to write nsis scripts ?
22:01:28 <Gringoloco> in unicode?
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22:05:46 <Gringoloco> Have to try it one day, till now the shear size did put me off
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22:10:59 <gluxon> Gringoloco: Yeah, you can.
22:11:10 <gluxon> There's an option to set it to write all files in Unicode.
22:11:39 <Gringoloco> And you are satisfied by using Eclipse for nsis scripts ?
22:11:44 <gluxon> VERY :D
22:12:01 <gluxon> It even lets me see white spacing :)
22:12:22 <gluxon> You know, only problem is it hogs a lot of memory.
22:12:44 <gluxon> Memory as in File system... not CPU and stuff.
22:12:58 <Gringoloco> 185 MB just to download :-(
22:13:21 <Gringoloco> It'll take me hours
22:13:53 <gluxon> Your internet is that slow? :(
22:14:11 <Gringoloco> What's the best server, Bensawsome or SourceForge ?
22:14:19 <gluxon> Bensawsome :)
22:14:20 <Gringoloco> Yes it is
22:14:33 <gluxon> If you plan on only using it for NSIS, choose C++.
22:14:49 <gluxon> It's smaller, and doens't have java stuff you won't need.
22:15:00 <gluxon> Optionally remove C++ support when you're done...
22:15:07 <Gringoloco> Ah, that's smaller, so I can use it for NSIS and C/C++ ?
22:15:48 <Gringoloco> I'll check it out tomorrow :)
22:15:48 <gluxon> Yeah.
22:15:50 <gluxon> :)
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22:22:38 <Gringoloco> Thanx, got to go now !
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