IRC Log from 2010-05-29

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00:43:59 <gluxon> Hiccup: So you did want a plane ticket :P
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01:03:13 <solanus> FTR "STAY TUNED: After a month of hard behind-the-scenes work, the flood of new releases and new features on the road to 2.0 starts THIS WEEK!" was a bad idea to post IMHO.
01:04:36 <solanus> There's so much anticipation and anxiety about these releases, and it's proven almost impossible to make even an approximate prediction of release times.
01:05:07 <solanus> Way Way better to remain silent and surprise us.
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01:06:16 <pa_3768> how to get rid of write protection
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01:06:53 <solanus> I will wager $100 that no 2.0 stuff gets released this week.
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01:10:31 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:16:19 <solanus> later
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02:01:35 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:01:35 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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04:03:03 <EndymionMallorn> Hi, is someone alert here?
04:03:13 <OliverK> maybe
04:03:25 <OliverK> state your problem and perhaps someone can help ;)
04:04:26 <EndymionMallorn> Well, less problem, more question. Warzone 2100 2.2.4 was released as a portable app. They've since updated their release to 2.3. Is there any hope we'll see that on portableapps.com?
04:04:37 <OliverK> there's a hope
04:04:57 <OliverK> a flood of updates has been promised, but I cannot promise anything myself
04:05:07 <EndymionMallorn> Alright. Right now, what I
04:05:24 <EndymionMallorn> I've been doing is just carrying my saves back and forth.
04:07:02 <ChrisMorgan> You should be able to just copy over the 2.3 files to the App\Warzone2100 directory.
04:07:57 <EndymionMallorn> Ah. I will try it.
04:11:00 <EndymionMallorn> Thanks.
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04:53:27 <JohnTHaller> btw - 1.6.1 was posted, just no homepage announcement yet
04:54:15 <ChrisMorgan> Did 1.6.1 get that ChineseSimplified.locale LocaleID fix I posted in the 2.0 Beta 4 thread?
04:54:39 <JohnTHaller> Nope. It was built before that
04:54:44 <ChrisMorgan> OK
04:54:59 <JohnTHaller> I'll be sure it's in 2.0B5. It's on the ToDo list.
05:03:47 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Suite and Platform 1.6.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-05-28_-_portableapps.com_platform_and_suite_1.6.1
05:04:58 <ChrisMorgan> Hooyay! :-)
05:05:26 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: Pnotes Portable? Any chance of getting that released?
05:05:37 <ChrisMorgan> Does the Suite include updated versions of apps included which haven't been released yet?
05:05:40 <JohnTHaller> When the 2.0 format is posted.
05:05:42 <JohnTHaller> Yes
05:05:55 <JohnTHaller> All apps in the suite are updated. And all are updated to PAF 2.0
05:06:24 <ChrisMorgan> What's new in 2.0? Anything which needs modifying beyond the PAF version number?
05:07:38 <JohnTHaller> Optional bits to specify whether it's Additional Langueges (default to true) and whether to automatically include it when installed in automatic mode (also default to true)
05:08:25 <JohnTHaller> OliverK|Away: PNotes 6.0 is in the 1.6.1 suite and should drop tomorrow with the announcement of PA.c Installer 2.0
05:08:37 <OliverK|Away> awesome, thanks
05:09:40 <ChrisMorgan> So languages are installed automatically even when the Platform is in English?
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05:10:56 <JohnTHaller> Nope. It's one of the advanced options. By default, langs are done Auto... which means in English, only English. Anything else, everything is installed. The user can set it to Always All, Auto or Only English. The default is Auto.
05:11:13 <JohnTHaller> This only applies when apps are installed via the new App Directory built into the platform
05:11:23 <Pyromaniac> hey john, can I PM you?
05:12:09 <ChrisMorgan> Good, that's how I think it should be.
05:12:48 <JohnTHaller> Not if its for troubleshooting code. I don't have the energy. Long day. And someone was murdered in my neighborhood tonight, so I'm edgy.
05:13:11 <Pyromaniac> I didnt want to pollute the lobby
05:13:26 <Pyromaniac> I've been having a ton of problems
05:13:35 <Pyromaniac> well only one
05:13:35 <JohnTHaller> I don't usually have time to troubleshoot code over PM honestly. It's more of a forum thing. And I have a huge todo list.
05:14:00 <Pyromaniac> can you (john) take a look at the code?
05:14:12 <JohnTHaller> If it's not to do with one of the current releases and it needs my personal attention, it'll simply have to wait
05:14:22 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried PAL with that INI file I suggested? If that doesn't make it work, then there's something else in it that you're missing. It will do the APPDATA\Trillian and HKCR\Trillian.SkinZip stuff.
05:14:47 <JohnTHaller> I must be off. it's after 1am and I need to try and sleep
05:14:51 <OliverK|Away> Pyromaniac: the sync thing?
05:14:52 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, sleep well
05:14:58 <OliverK|Away> sleep well JTH
05:15:07 <JohnTHaller> gnight all. much more will be happening tomorrow :-)
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05:15:15 <OliverK|Away> i hope so
05:15:24 <Pyromaniac> ah well good night
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05:18:09 <Pyromaniac_> sorry, my comp froze
05:18:17 <OliverK|Away> been there, sucks
05:18:31 <Pyromaniac_> umm no syncing because none of the apps her have that
05:18:45 <Pyromaniac_> and Oliver:
05:19:04 <ChrisMorgan> Pyromaniac_: you can press Tab to get autocompletion of a nick
05:19:06 <Pyromaniac_> did your settings get saved?
05:19:27 <Pyromaniac_> you said you tested it, but did it save your settings?
05:19:40 <ChrisMorgan> Synchronisation is a feature we're intending to add to the PortableApps.com Launcher and a related utility some time in the future.
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05:19:56 <Pyromaniac_> what?
05:19:58 <OliverK|Away> um I only tried it once and I do not have my laptop with the VM it is in right now
05:20:26 <Pyromaniac_> well do you mind trying it really quick please?
05:20:31 <OliverK|Away> and I am using my desktop right now, my laptop is upstairs and I'm watching star trek right now
05:20:58 <OliverK|Away> i can try it tomorrow.
05:21:38 <OliverK|Away> an email or something? I'll email you tomorrow and let you know
05:21:40 <Pyromaniac_> ok. I wanted John to look at the launcher because no matter what Chris and gluxon did, Trillian astra portable hasn't been saving the settings
05:21:47 <Pyromaniac_> ok
05:21:52 <OliverK|Away> ouch
05:22:15 <Pyromaniac_> and first release worked fine on my PC, but it turns out I didn't handle the registry right
05:22:30 <OliverK|Away> lols
05:22:56 <Pyromaniac_> and john told me to make it HKCU instead of HKU and I did that and Chris and gluxon told me to remove the string of numbers that was in the path
05:23:01 <OliverK|Away> i'm interested to see the project go forward
05:23:03 <OliverK|Away> yeah
05:23:11 <Pyromaniac_> and I did that and now its not saving the settings
05:23:15 <OliverK|Away> shoot me your current source, I can take a look
05:23:23 <OliverK|Away> um, PM
05:23:24 <Pyromaniac_> http://pastebin.org/289460
05:23:27 <Pyromaniac_> ok
05:23:30 <Mir> http://picpaste.com/415e9cd79d56d67bfe54561203fa05141239669228_full.jpg <-- practical use for math!
05:23:33 <Mir> \o/
05:23:39 * Mir lurks off
05:24:03 <OliverK|Away> Mir: old pic is old :p
05:24:08 <Mir> :p
05:24:12 <OliverK|Away> to steal gizmo's line
05:24:29 * Pyromaniac_ is laughing is @$$ off
05:38:16 <Pyromaniac_> alright chris
05:38:25 <Pyromaniac_> lets try your PAL
05:38:44 <Pyromaniac_> now... where did I put it...?
05:38:56 <Pyromaniac_> I gotta download another copy
05:39:18 <ChrisMorgan> Even if you don't want to use it in the final thing, it should show you if the technique is right.
05:40:20 <Pyromaniac_> man you are psychic!
05:40:49 <Pyromaniac_> by the way, I noticed there was another pyromaniac in here... do you know who it was?
05:41:02 <Pyromaniac_> I'm gonna prosecute him for identity theft!
05:41:43 <OliverK|Away> we can just look at hostnames :)
05:41:57 <ChrisMorgan> That's what happens if your connection drops out. Your ghost remains for some 254 seconds (approximately)
05:42:07 <ChrisMorgan> Sometimes as little as 252 ;-)
05:42:49 <Pyromaniac_> why doesn't John link to the RC page? he links to your page which says its outdated, then to another page which is outdated which finnially leads to the RC
05:45:25 <Pyromaniac_> where is the INI?
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05:46:49 <Pyromaniac_> I can't find the INI you configure for the app
05:48:09 <Pyromaniac_> well, I gotta go now, I'll mess with it later
05:48:13 <Pyromaniac_> yawn
05:48:23 * Pyromaniac_ is tired
05:48:31 <Pyromaniac_> BIG yawn
05:48:55 <Pyromaniac_> good night!
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06:37:50 <pa_7064> hello
06:38:24 <pa_7064> are you guys aware, sometime ago, PortableApps installer had a virus attached to it?
06:38:48 <pa_7064> Or at least that's what Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 reported
06:38:56 <pa_7064> well, i got to run... bye
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06:47:55 <Mir> false report
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18:55:49 <TimClark> Pyromaniac: he just likes to post :(
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18:56:46 <TimClark> it was obviously a joke
18:57:59 <Pyromaniac> gluxon? or darkbee?
18:58:39 <gluxon> Let's add Pyromaniac to the list ;)
18:59:22 <Pyromaniac> i like to help
18:59:33 <gluxon> As do I :)
19:00:00 <TimClark> gluxon: you just like to waste bandwidth, as you sig says
19:00:16 <gluxon> lol
19:00:34 <Pyromaniac> 'SkipZip' should be 'SkinZip'
19:00:50 <Pyromaniac> that was the error!
19:01:04 <Pyromaniac> gringo found it
19:01:37 <Pyromaniac> doesn't john have unlimited bandwidth?
19:01:49 <Pyromaniac> its hard to believe he doesn't
19:01:58 <TimClark> why do you ask Pyromaniac
19:02:07 <gluxon> Pyromaniac: Probably does, but remember, servers still have CPU.
19:03:09 <Pyromaniac> Tim, you like making me feel stupid dont you :P
19:03:26 <TimClark> bandwidth is a two way street, the senders bandwidth and the recivers [no, i just got what you meant]
19:08:47 <Pyromaniac> Did you see the news yesterday? There is this 2 year old (I think in Greece) who smoked 12 cigarettes a day!
19:09:32 <Pyromaniac> http://apexnewsnetwork.com/22062/2-year-old-smoking-cigarette-video-removed-from-youtube/
19:09:41 <TimClark> Pyromaniac: are you aware of #portableapps-ot ?
19:10:13 <Pyromaniac> uh, I am now...
19:10:41 <TimClark> there are folks chatting about various things there now, feel free to join
19:10:59 <Pyromaniac> but I'm in the middle of a PM
19:11:44 <gluxon> Pyromaniac: It's as simple as /join #portableapps-ot :P
19:12:24 <Pyromaniac> oh
19:12:52 <Pyromaniac> shows how much I use IRC
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21:03:36 <TimClark> pa_1587: pa_2736 Could you please remove one of you
21:04:13 <pa_1587> browser crashed -.-"
21:04:31 <pa_1587> it should time out soon no?
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21:05:15 <TimClark> pa_1587: do you need any help or are you just stopping by?
21:06:32 <pa_1587> just checking by
21:06:41 <TimClark> Ok, enjoy
21:06:47 <pa_1587> thx
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21:58:19 <ProgMan> anyone know where i can get a direct (resumable) link for openoffice 3.2.0 portable - I'm on dialup and I can't resume with the links provided by sourceforge
21:58:55 <gluxon> ProgMan: You can't?
21:59:16 <ProgMan> I'm SOL huh...
22:01:04 <ProgMan> "you can't" - is this an answer for me or a question, sorry, I can't tell
22:01:23 <gluxon> Try this mirror.
22:01:23 <gluxon> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/p/project/po/portableapps/OpenOffice.org%20Portable/OpenOffice.org%20Portable%203.2.0/OpenOfficePortable_3.2.0_English.paf.exe
22:01:46 <TimClark> ProgMan: resumablity is not part of a link, it's part of what you use to download
22:02:13 <gluxon> ProgMan: That's strange, I can pause and resume perfectly fine.
22:02:25 <TimClark> I would not try to download OO.o on a modem
22:02:36 <ProgMan> I have a resumable download manager - I do it all the time, the oo link expired and the message was un rsumable
22:02:46 <gluxon> I'm using Firefox 3.7 Alpha 5with iWeb as the SF mirror.
22:02:46 <TimClark> ahh
22:02:48 <ProgMan> *unresumable
22:02:58 <ProgMan> I use hidownload pro
22:03:30 <ProgMan> because of my dialup status without resumability I could never get anything
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22:04:41 <gluxon> ProgMan: Did you try the mirror I gave you?
22:04:51 <TimClark> ProgMan: any chance of going to a library or a friends house with high speed access
22:04:56 <ProgMan> Tim Clark - the links is also part of the issue - my log files from hidownload will testify to it
22:05:32 <ProgMan> I would but I live in the woods,about 50 miles from civilization :)
22:05:35 <TimClark> ProgMan: i mean that having a resumable download manager was the key
22:06:00 <ProgMan> true Tim..
22:06:04 <TimClark> gluxon: and i don't think he means pause and resume
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22:06:27 <TimClark> i think he means, connection dropped, reconnect and pickup where you left off
22:06:40 <ProgMan> true again Time, I mean resume from a disconnect
22:06:45 <ProgMan> *Tim
22:07:16 <gluxon> Yeah, try another download manager.
22:09:20 <ProgMan> it's the link, once disconnected session ends and the link is no longer good, it's the link not the tool, I downloaded version 3.1.1 without issue
22:09:33 <ProgMan> it's a sort of redirect
22:10:03 <ProgMan> not actually a direct link - I go thru this all the time with some links and not others
22:10:37 <TimClark> I don't think that the link gluxon gave you is a redirect
22:10:52 <TimClark> the ones at our site ARE redirects usually
22:11:17 <ProgMan> I wil try it, disconnect, and see if it will resume, I do appreciate the help
22:11:33 <ProgMan> *will
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22:15:57 <ProgMan> gluxon: I think the link you provided may do - it seems to resume after a disconnect :)
22:16:07 <gluxon> :)
22:16:29 <ProgMan> I really appreciate it
22:16:37 <ProgMan> all of the feedback
22:16:51 <TimClark> good luck ProgMan
22:17:24 <ProgMan> thanks again Tim, I really didn't want to install Office 2003
22:18:17 <ProgMan> btw, you guys have a nice and safe 3-day weekend
22:18:31 <ProgMan> if you live in the US that is
22:18:35 <gluxon> Thanks you, you too :)
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