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00:09:08 <Pyromaniac> question: how do I make the installer ask what components of an app you want to install?
00:09:23 <Pyromaniac> *using the PortableApps.com Installer
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00:11:23 <ChrisMorgan> You can have one optional section.
00:12:30 <Pyromaniac> where?
00:13:42 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#installer
00:16:42 <Pyromaniac> I also wanted to ask if I can download multiple files with the installer...?
00:16:59 <Pyromaniac> I tried DownloadFiles twice but it didn't wok
00:20:31 <ChrisMorgan> No
00:22:28 <Pyromaniac> also, are there any apps that use PAL?
00:22:40 <Pyromaniac> ones that are official, I mean
00:27:02 <ChrisMorgan> Not at the moment.
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00:39:10 <marlop> pa_still-waiting, waiting what?
00:39:29 <pa_still-waiting> THE FLOOD
00:40:01 <pa_still-waiting> it was due by midnight yesterday :(
00:42:16 <pa_still-waiting> maybe NEXT week will be THE week we seek
00:42:43 <gluxon> pa_still-waiting, heh, lol :P
00:43:09 <gluxon> A couple of people in here yesterday were saying that if we just release one app by midnight, we'll have reached the deadline :P
00:43:48 <pa_still-waiting> that was yesterday, a new week has already begun
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00:50:45 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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01:23:28 <gluxon> Hey AppGuy :)
01:23:47 <AppGuy> Hey gluxon :]
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02:04:35 <vf2nsr> dboki89: I took your suggestion about masking log in :) BTW are you the sole downloader of the calculator?
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02:06:00 <dboki89> vf2nsr: sorry, I'm not; I haven't installed Java after reinstalling my Win machines... therefore, I haven't tried it
02:06:15 <vf2nsr> It works with the portable java
02:06:48 <vf2nsr> np was jc
02:06:58 <dboki89> vf2nsr: I haven't installed the Portable Java yet either, but I'll do so and test the calculator :)
02:07:55 <gluxon> vf2nsr: You used the -vm switch, right? :)
02:08:09 <dboki89> vf2nsr: sorry, I'm doing something right now, I'll talk to you about it a little later, ok?
02:08:18 <vf2nsr> np I can always count on you getting them and at least I get one response in forum LOL :) dboki89
02:08:42 <dboki89> :)
02:10:06 <vf2nsr> oops 2 dl now I getting popular
02:10:24 <vf2nsr> get bacjk to work, I just dropped in to slum for a few before bed
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02:11:25 <dboki89> vf2nsr: don't worry, it'll be tested for tomorrow :) I had a busy weekend, so I haven't done any testing :)
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02:12:11 <vf2nsr> me too with good weather landscaping gets no holidays
02:13:27 <dboki89> sorry, I'm multi-tasking; I'll be able to talk in a few minutes
02:14:03 <vf2nsr> np I heading off ttyl
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18:18:39 <DriveDude> Hi
18:18:59 <gluxon> DriveDude: Hi, need help with anything?
18:20:01 <DriveDude> I wante to ask when will *the flood* Begin I was to believe it will begin next week?
18:20:16 <DriveDude> no
18:20:23 <DriveDude> I mean last week
18:23:30 <gluxon> I believe there was some bugs found in the 2.0 platform. :(
18:23:52 <gluxon> Something about using an online picture as the personal picture.
18:25:55 <DriveDude> Is it that why there is a 1.6.1
18:26:01 <DriveDude> not 2.0
18:26:20 <DriveDude> Will it be called beta %
18:26:28 <DriveDude> 5
18:27:09 <Mir> gluxon: what sort of bugs
18:28:19 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/22443#comment-150193
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18:32:57 <TimClark> DriveDude: no one really knows what the delay is
18:33:20 <TimClark> The 1.6.1 is independent of the 2.0
18:34:10 <DriveDude> Alright. So what will be on the new Beta 5 release
18:34:18 <TimClark> The 1.6.1 is the last version of the platform to support win 98
18:34:37 <Mir> really?
18:34:39 <Mir> heh
18:35:17 <DriveDude> Alright. I don't need it I have XP Pro SP 3 and Win7
18:36:03 <gluxon> Yeah, John's switching to a new version of the Delphi compiler, which means no more Win 98 and 2000.
18:37:41 <TimClark> Actually gluxon you are incorrect, nothing unusual about that :P , 2000 support has not been dropped yet
18:38:04 <gluxon> Wait, really?
18:38:05 <gluxon> :)
18:38:22 <gluxon> I thought Me was 2000?
18:38:28 <TimClark> Just Windows 95/98/Me support is being dropped
18:38:29 <gluxon> Mellenium?
18:38:38 <Simeon> hi Tim :)
18:38:40 <gluxon> New Mellenium = 2000? :P
18:38:44 <TimClark> gluxon: think less, research more
18:38:46 <Simeon> And gluxon, Me isnt 2000
18:38:57 <gluxon> Oh.
18:39:15 <TimClark> Hello Simeon
18:40:18 <DriveDude> I did think Me was 2000 to
18:41:03 <TimClark> nope, ME was the last truely "home" edtion
18:41:29 <TimClark> based on a similer core to it's predecessors
18:41:35 <Simeon> nope. Me was the last station in the DOS line and 2000 the 4th in the NT line (sais Wiki)
18:41:40 <DriveDude> So 2000 was pro and Me was home
18:41:45 <Simeon> kinda
18:41:56 <TimClark> kinda / sorta / basically
18:42:04 <Simeon> ;)
18:43:00 <TimClark> John needs to take down the banner or at least give some kinda explanation has to what is happening
18:43:25 <DriveDude> That's weird
18:43:26 <Simeon> You mean the "THIS WEEK" thing?
18:43:52 <TimClark> For the moment the best thing to say to visitor is "Sorry, the apps are not out yet, and we don't know why"
18:44:31 <TimClark> But try not to be defensive if folks seem annoyed or pissed
18:44:59 <TimClark> At this point it is understandable
18:45:23 <Simeon> according to some IRC chatter its in the works/ a few days late.again.
18:46:26 <DriveDude> Hi I just wante to say I am not annoyed or pissed That is why I asked
18:47:09 <TimClark> DriveDude: I did not mean you, but folks have been annoyed for a while
18:47:26 <TimClark> And I'm sure we will have visitors or posters who will be
18:48:14 <TimClark> I just don't want the members to get all high and mighty about with "It will be ready when it's ready !!!!!!"
18:48:53 <TimClark> At this point many folks could care less about the menu, they just want the apps released
18:49:28 <Simeon> yes. the list is growing beyond anything
18:49:48 <TimClark> Being told that they are being held up for something they don't care about is likely to piss them off if we are snotty about it
18:50:31 <gluxon> I'm happy with the beta right now :)
18:50:47 <gluxon> And TimClark's right, I just care out Eclipse Portable, lol :P
18:50:52 <gluxon> *about (out)
18:51:33 <TimClark> I had someone tell me in PM that they were going to the "Site which will not be named" if the apps were not released by saturday
18:52:21 <gluxon> TimClark: Are you serious? O_O
18:52:24 <Simeon> ouch
18:53:09 <TimClark> Gluxon: of course I'm serious, do you think folks will wait forever ?
18:53:42 <TimClark> You even said that your app is there
18:53:56 <TimClark> / and better :P
18:54:07 <gluxon> :/
18:54:56 <TimClark> Anyway, let's try to be calm, understanding and polite
18:55:23 <TimClark> But also honest, at this point we don't know what's happening or how long it will be
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18:57:59 <gluxon> We should start up the release team, then go work on the platform.
18:58:18 <gluxon> Someone else could be behind releases, and leave the Platform for and specifications for John.
19:02:27 <TimClark> That really would not help in this case gluxon
19:03:14 <gluxon> Well, not many of us see why apps and updates should be held up for the platform :(
19:03:44 <TimClark> Yes, and that's the point, John does, so the RT would not do much good in this situation
19:05:04 <gluxon> Well, okay :(
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19:17:45 *** TimClark changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them"
19:39:34 <TimClark> gluxon: was the comment you replied to indicating that task coach is now more then 2 versions behing ?
19:39:47 <TimClark> behind*
19:39:56 <gluxon> no.
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20:10:38 <tal> hi
20:10:44 <tal> nice chat! :)
20:10:46 <tal> i like it
20:11:11 <tal> simple yet smart
20:11:15 <tal> anybody here? :)
20:11:47 <TimClark> Hello tal , do you need some help or just passing by
20:11:48 <TimClark> Most folks in the channel are "away" right now
20:12:09 <tal> no i don't need help
20:12:20 <tal> i just want to say hello if it o.k.
20:12:53 <TimClark> Ok, enjoy your stay
20:13:00 <tal> and just may suggest a fetcher to portableapps menu
20:13:40 <TimClark> I'm not sure what a "fetcher" is
20:14:16 <tal> just a sec i look in the dictionary :)
20:15:39 <tal> o... i mean a feature -> something new that a program can do...
20:16:36 <TimClark> What is your suggestion ?
20:17:51 <tal> that it can be add any program that is not portapps form easily and not just read special directory.
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20:18:26 <TimClark> I will pass that on
20:18:49 <Simeon> you can do that
20:18:58 <tal> hoe?
20:19:01 <Simeon> or do you mean a shortcut to a special folder?
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20:19:35 <Simeon> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
20:20:12 <tal> i mean if there any other program that i do not insert to the special directory
20:20:22 <tal> i want to add like a shortcut
20:20:38 <Simeon> simple answer: you cant :(
20:20:54 <Simeon> wait - maybe you can
20:21:18 <Simeon> using the appinfo.ini and pointing that to a specific folder. might work I never tried it
20:21:35 <tal> i know, but i want that be add as a feature to the program.
20:22:02 <Simeon> then you'd have to grab the source code...
20:23:07 <tal> i don't want to mess all around always a switching from two different directory . think about that Simeon.
20:23:50 <Simeon> Or you could (if you know NSIS) write a little launcher. I did that so I could launch 7zip from the root of my drive
20:24:47 <tal> many people have portable apps with many EXE file in the root directory, and it be shown in the menu, and it very annoying.
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20:25:44 <Simeon> you can hide the additional apps
20:25:48 <Simeon> exes
20:25:56 <tal> just to make it simple for all portable apps user that can be upgarde that menu and support that feature, I think a lot of ppl star to use that luncher :)
20:26:22 <tal> i know, but every time you add a new program you need to care about that,
20:26:41 <tal> and it scan the same directory over and over again.
20:27:38 <tal> why just once when i tell to the menu scan the directory if i want to, and add shortcut manually if i want that :P
20:28:32 <Simeon> well - thats how it is built atm
20:28:47 * tal loves PortableApps.com
20:29:37 <tal> o.k. i know simeon. i just want to suggest a feature like i said :)
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20:30:12 <Simeon> then its best to post it in the forums cause I doubt John reads the logs here
20:30:12 <TimClark> And we will pass that on tal
20:31:22 <tal> i hope you take my suggestion seriously and ask other ppl on that opinion.
20:31:31 <tal> thank you TimClack
20:31:54 <tal> TimClark*
20:32:52 <TimClark> Your welcome tal
20:33:08 <tal> O:-)
20:33:24 <Simeon> bye all
20:33:30 <tal> bye
20:33:35 <tal> me leave too
20:33:36 <TimClark> Good bye Simeon
20:34:10 <TimClark> Bye tal
20:34:18 <tal> bye TimClark :)
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21:16:22 <helldunkel> hi there
21:17:18 <helldunkel> got a small problem with my portables... I install them and everything seems to work fine until I get into this PC and all of them send me an error message
21:17:23 <helldunkel> when
21:17:45 <helldunkel> click on the .exe file it says something along the lines of "invalid controller"
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21:20:14 <helldunkel> ...
21:20:42 <helldunkel> Ok, let me try again.
21:21:21 <helldunkel> The problem is that when I click on the .exe file of any of my portables I get a message along the lines of "invalid controller", what seems to be the problem?
21:23:35 <helldunkel> help!
21:23:35 <GizmoBot> helldunkel: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:24:15 <helldunkel> -facedesks- so, patience's the keyword here, right?
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21:27:42 <helldunkel> oh well...
21:27:55 <helldunkel> I'll find the answer by myself, thanks for nothing guys :D
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21:28:28 <sar3th> :E
21:28:47 <Oni-Neoxes> how come I never see excid anymore >_>
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23:20:27 <gluxon|gone> ChrisMorgan: Avalible for some 3 minute help?
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23:20:31 <ChrisMorgan> Probably
23:20:52 <gluxon> Okay. BurnAware Free needs a dll called gdiplus.dll.
23:21:07 <gluxon> How would I register it?
23:21:37 <gluxon> The installer places it in the system32 folder, which doesn't have an environment variable.
23:21:45 <ChrisMorgan> You don't. GDI+ is a Microsoft redistributable which just needs to be in the PATH.
23:22:37 <ChrisMorgan> Just put it in the application directory. That's where it should go. If you're feeling really energetic you should tell them that it should go in their own app directory, not system32 (and that it's only necessary for 2000 and less, XP has it)
23:23:30 <gluxon> Putting it in it's own app dir doesn't work.
23:24:10 <ChrisMorgan> Then they're not loading it properly.
23:24:33 <ChrisMorgan> Try adding its directory to the PATH. It's remotely possible that that may help.
23:24:52 <gluxon> Okay
23:26:25 <sar3th> that is very strange, the dll loading order specifies to look in the appdir as well (usually)
23:26:51 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: I presume that they're loading the DLL with the full path rather than allowing normal file location resolution.
23:27:02 <gluxon> Didn't seem to work.
23:27:38 <gluxon> The guy at the illegal site managed to do it :/
23:27:48 <gluxon> By ripping off my launcher and adding special code :/
23:27:49 <ChrisMorgan> If you really want to, you could try registering the DLL with the NSIS commands RegDLL and UnRegDLL, but I wouldn't expect that to work.
23:27:59 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: I already did :(
23:28:20 <ChrisMorgan> Then that other one probably just copies it to sys32?
23:29:28 <ChrisMorgan> You should probably contact the BurnAware people. They must be doing something strange in how they load it, specifying the full path I presume, which is a fairly unfriendly way of doing it (and would make 64-bit support slightly touchy).
23:29:28 <gluxon> Well, it doesn't require admin privs to launch :/
23:29:54 <gluxon> I'd be surprised if I got a reply :(
23:30:07 <gluxon> Even if it's "No, we won't tell you" :P
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23:32:10 <ChrisMorgan> dk: hello, can we help you with anything?
23:32:27 <dk> ChrisMorgan: nope, just stopping by
23:32:31 <ChrisMorgan> OK
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23:35:14 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan: could be...still odd
23:35:20 <ChrisMorgan> Definitely
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