IRC Log from 2010-06-02
00:12:18 <gluxon> dboki89: Yeah, it is the right place.
00:12:20 <gluxon> Take a look.
00:12:21 <gluxon> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/294116/where-does-the-system-store-the-icons-position
00:12:47 <dboki89> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/59072-35-desktop-icons-position <-- what I was reading, seems to confirm the place :)
00:13:07 <gluxon> I've got Link updating in the portable desktop in eXpresso, now I just need to implant it.
00:13:36 <dboki89> "Link updating"? Which link?
00:16:13 <gluxon> No, shortcut link updating.
00:16:18 <gluxon> .lnk files :)
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00:16:40 <dboki89> Nevermind... I think it's definitely HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Desktop
00:16:40 <dboki89> , as it's appearing as the answer in several discussions about the subject; also by checking the size of some of the values in there, it's quite possible that's it;
00:17:14 <gluxon> I deleted the value.
00:17:19 <gluxon> Guess what happened? :D
00:17:21 <dboki89> and? :)
00:17:22 <gluxon> My icons reset.
00:17:28 <gluxon> So that's definatly the place.
00:17:32 <dboki89> :) Bingo
00:17:58 * dboki89 high-fives gluxon, and buys him a Coca-Cola :)
00:18:15 <gluxon> :P
00:18:18 <gluxon> Thanks.
00:18:26 <dboki89> :)
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01:08:48 <vf2nsr> got your ark ready Chris...lol ;) for the big flood?
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01:33:29 <pa_3472> hi guys
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01:33:40 <ChrisMorgan> Hey pa_3472, can we help you with anything?
01:33:51 <pa_3472> i hav a question: all the apps still need to be installed?
01:34:15 <ChrisMorgan> The installers for the portable version need to be run, if that's what you mean.
01:34:16 <pa_3472> thought i can use it without
01:35:07 <pa_3472> so it is not only that i can execute the .exe file and firefox for example is running? i still hav to install it?
01:36:09 <ChrisMorgan> The PortableApps.com installer for Firefox Portable installs Firefox Portable on your device. Then you can run it as FirefoxPortable.exe, or through the PortableApps.com Platform.
01:36:43 <pa_3472> ah so i install it on my usb?
01:36:53 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
01:36:58 <pa_3472> cool
01:37:02 <pa_3472> thanks
01:37:08 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome
01:37:13 <pa_3472> bye
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02:16:15 <ChrisMorgan> Erk. Google Chrome Portable has suddenly stopped working. It's producing "Error 102 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED): Unknown error." every time... and restarting isn't helping :-9
02:16:22 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
02:17:04 <ChrisMorgan> Fascinating... I have one https page open, and it does work. Just not the http ones.
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02:21:37 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. IE doesn't work either, but Firefox does. Think I'll try changing computer.
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02:38:45 <ChrisMorgan> Should I change the default look and feel in DataCrow from JTattoo to Windows?
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02:49:36 <Mir> [19:49] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING reply from Mir: 60 seconds.
02:49:43 <Mir> its GONE
02:49:46 <Mir> my latency
02:49:51 <Mir> D':
02:50:19 <Mir> damn you triangle and your stupid fucking invite to some unknown channel
02:50:28 <ChrisMorgan> Mir, please control your language.
02:50:30 <Mir> whoops
02:50:34 <Mir> wrong chan
02:50:41 <ChrisMorgan> :-/
02:50:51 <Mir> i thought i was in another channel
02:50:55 <Mir> a ot one
02:51:31 <Mir> sorry ChrisMorgan
02:51:37 <Mir> anyways whats up
02:51:53 <ChrisMorgan> Just finishing Data Crow Portable 3.8.14 Development Test 1.
02:52:41 <Mir> nice
02:53:00 <Mir> got any other programs on your plate for development?
02:53:03 <ChrisMorgan> My first portable app release for quite a long time. PAL has been making me busy.
02:53:21 <Mir> use NTSC isntead
02:53:28 <ChrisMorgan> PAL is better.
02:53:32 <Mir> and stay away from SECAM
02:53:53 <ChrisMorgan> Higher resolution in one context, and /far/ better in our main context :-)
02:54:39 <ChrisMorgan> I also need to update Sweet Home 3D, and I should make a new DT for GanttProject to put in language switching and PAL updates. Then I should get round to releasing another couple that I practically finished but didn't release (Mnemosyne and I can't remember what else)
02:55:04 <Mir> ahh
02:55:10 <Mir> full plate i see
02:55:13 <ChrisMorgan> Yep :-)
02:55:24 <ChrisMorgan> A good way to be :-)
02:55:24 * Mir ads more :D
02:55:45 * ChrisMorgan has AdBlock Plus installed
02:55:58 <Mir> mongolian beef ^^)~b
02:56:09 <ChrisMorgan> ?
02:56:25 <Mir> what else would one put on a pate
02:56:28 <Mir> plate
02:56:38 <ChrisMorgan> Bacon and eggs.
02:56:44 <Mir> other than yummy chinnese food
02:56:55 <Mir> my spelling is bad atm
02:56:58 <ChrisMorgan> Sausages. Chocolate. Other miscellaneous lollies. Not Chinese food.
02:57:13 <Mir> i just got back from a long day at 6 flags magic mountian
02:57:37 <Mir> no lollies. keep it clean man take that to ot
02:57:45 <Mir> :P
02:57:48 <ChrisMorgan> ??
02:59:53 <Mir> lolies
02:59:56 <Mir> umm
03:00:00 <Mir> i wont say
03:00:04 <Bensawsome> heh
03:00:10 <Mir> see
03:00:16 <Mir> it awakened Bensawsome
03:00:20 <Mir> :D
03:00:25 <Bensawsome> which means its BAD
03:00:26 <Bensawsome> lol
03:00:34 <Mir> so it must have something to do with waffels
03:00:42 <Bensawsome> LOL
03:02:23 <Mir> sup Bensawsome
03:05:16 <ChrisMorgan> Plenty of time while it's uploading to write release notes :-)
03:06:18 <Mir> :)
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05:50:17 <pa_4452> ChrisMorgan: Was there a PortableApps.com Pastebin?
05:50:53 *** pa_4452 is now known as Horusofoz
05:51:30 <ChrisMorgan> Not really. Sometimes people use e.g. portableapps.pastebin.com
05:53:14 <Horusofoz> Wouldn't that then be the PortableApps Pastebin :p
05:53:45 <ChrisMorgan> Not really. It's not like it's official or anything, and there's no real benefit in that over normal pastebin.com.
05:56:24 <ChrisMorgan> I updated DataCrow :-)
05:57:36 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: Just posted feedback. Oh and realised I forgot to say, Thanks :)
06:01:24 <Horusofoz> gtg Ciao
06:01:32 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, thanks
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06:58:42 <pa_2775> kfjdghdf g
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07:24:13 <Bensawsome> o.o
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07:39:20 <GizmoBot> sar3th is a dev who likes games by valve very much
07:39:20 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
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07:39:23 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/23424
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08:51:25 <Horusofoz> Spam: http://portableapps.com/node/11491#comment-150592 - Links in signature.
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14:33:18 <vf2nsr> dboki89: the majority of the shot shows that the data is sent to the PA foler not app data
14:33:37 <vf2nsr> dboki89: so it looks lioke just the last 2 entries are not right?
14:33:50 <dboki89> just a sec
14:34:21 <dboki89> I added settings\localXradio=%LOCALAPPDATA%\xradio to your launcher config file and now it's OK
14:34:42 <dboki89> only those 2 files were left in the LocalAppData
14:35:29 <vf2nsr> ok so I should add that line?
14:35:43 <dboki89> What do you think, will you add it? I think it would be OK to add...
14:36:13 <dboki89> so, the profile from localappdata will be saved in the Data\settings\localXradio folder
14:36:55 <vf2nsr> ok done will repackaged and upload later getting ready to head out for day
14:37:04 <dboki89> oh, already? :)
14:37:12 <vf2nsr> ?
14:37:19 <dboki89> already getting out?
14:37:26 <vf2nsr> 1030 am here lawns to cutr yards to landscape lol
14:37:43 <vf2nsr> and when I getg bored got some drywall to hang lol
14:37:51 <dboki89> OK :)
14:38:23 <dboki89> I think I'll send you an email later today, just so you know
14:38:27 <vf2nsr> the sqlitre thing I left where it was so as not to mess with original program
14:38:38 <dboki89> ok
14:38:55 <vf2nsr> ok np I already copied the line into launcher then copied the folder to desktop for later repackaging
14:39:04 <dboki89> great :)
14:39:31 <dboki89> just out of curiosity, have you started using Sandboxie yet?
14:39:44 <vf2nsr> was a pain and interestingly some things that showed on initial run were not present on subsequent runs
14:39:50 <vf2nsr> no not yet
14:40:17 <vf2nsr> on my lis of things to do
14:40:35 <dboki89> ah, darn... I wanted to send you some files for Sandboxie | SandDiff, for easier analisis
14:40:49 <vf2nsr> send anyway
14:40:55 <dboki89> ok
14:41:02 <vf2nsr> Msybr put it on higher priority
14:41:07 <vf2nsr> got to scoot ttyl
14:41:13 <vf2nsr> yhanks
14:41:13 <dboki89> ok, later :)
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15:47:31 <Darkbee> party?
15:49:30 <dboki89> OK, who's buying? :)
15:50:22 <Darkbee> dboki89: your signature is awesome! :)
15:50:45 <dboki89> :) I thought you'd like it
15:52:21 <dboki89> btw, channel #portableapps-ot is for off-topic (non PA related)
15:52:54 <Darkbee> aahhh, so that's where the REAL activity happens, I get it.
15:52:59 <Darkbee> this channel is always dead. :(
15:53:53 <Darkbee> I'm not liking this stayed tuned message... it's always out of date :'(
15:54:25 <dboki89> lol, John already said it's gonna be today or tomorrow :)
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15:58:22 <Darkbee> Yeah, I know... just getting impatient
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17:21:15 <cM> whats going on?
17:22:05 <cM> I see the news at top of page changed today, didnt it say starting this week?
17:22:49 <dboki89> Now it says "TODAY", isn't that a lot better?
17:23:22 <cM> sure since the 'this week' lasted longer than a week with no change ;) (poking fun)
17:24:18 <dboki89> actually, "this week" lasted for 6 or 7 days, not longer :p But the updates are starting today :)
17:25:26 <cM> cool, even though I dont think it was intentional on John's behalf this strung out wait for the 2.0 has got everyone acting like they are on crack waiting for the 2.0 fix :)
17:26:21 <cM> I have fallen into that pipe lure as well, checking 5 to 6 times a day to see if there has been any changes. Checking the forums, everything lol searching for the coming 2.0
17:27:11 <dboki89> Well, it's finally here! I hope... :p
17:27:32 <cM> :D
17:31:11 <cM> well guess I am back off to the office thanks for the chat mate, have a good day your way.
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18:06:42 <Darkbee> Fire!
18:06:45 <Darkbee> Help!
18:06:52 <Darkbee> :)
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19:21:10 <Darkbee> The excitement is intense!
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19:25:48 <pa_8112> Anyone in here know how to get PA to auto start upon insert of my thumb drive?
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19:27:16 <dboki89> IVIaxPow3r: doesn't it already?
19:29:28 <IVIaxPow3r> nope - I have to go in and start the .exe
19:29:45 <IVIaxPow3r> it used to at least ask me if I wanted to - but now it doesn't even ask me anything - it just sits there
19:29:54 <IVIaxPow3r> I have to open it and everything
19:30:05 <dboki89> just a sec please
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19:31:25 <dboki89> Is there a file camed Autoran.inf at the root of your USB drive?
19:31:25 <Pyromaniac> hey gluxon!
19:31:38 <gluxon> Hey :)
19:32:04 <dboki89> hello gluxon :) how are you?
19:32:34 <dboki89> IVIaxPow3r: sorry, the file should be called Autorun.inf, I made a typo earlier
19:32:50 <gluxon> Good, you? :)
19:33:34 <dboki89> Good... Any new discoveries about Windows secrets? Like that about saved icon positions yesterday? :)
19:34:06 <Pyromaniac> hey join #gluxonpyrodeboki
19:34:15 <Pyromaniac> no e
19:34:28 <Pyromaniac> #gluxonpyrodboki
19:35:26 <IVIaxPow3r> I do have that Autorun.inf file
19:35:26 <Darkbee> autoran lol
19:35:47 <Darkbee> open it in Notepad, what exe does it try to run?
19:36:10 <Darkbee> a virus might have modified it, or autorun is disable for that device on your computer.
19:36:16 <dboki89> IVIaxPow3r: Right-click > Open , or Open With and then Notepad
19:36:50 <IVIaxPow3r> Open=StartPortableApps.exe
19:37:07 <IVIaxPow3r> Action=Start PortableApps.com
19:37:24 <IVIaxPow3r> those are the first two lines after [Autorun]
19:37:30 <dboki89> yea, it's Ok then
19:37:55 <dboki89> Now, are you sure you have autorun enabled for that drive?
19:38:09 <IVIaxPow3r> I am not sure - how do I check?
19:38:54 <Darkbee> open Windows Explorer (win key + E) and right click the drive
19:39:01 <Darkbee> there should be an autorun tab I think
19:39:41 <dboki89> Darkbee, looks like you're taking it from here :)
19:39:59 <Darkbee> it's called tag-teaming ;)
19:39:59 <IVIaxPow3r> :) there is an "autoplay" tab in properties
19:40:04 <IVIaxPow3r> is taht what you are talking about?
19:40:24 <Darkbee> yeah..that might not actually help sorry... autorun might be messed with in the registry...
19:40:33 <Darkbee> out of curiosity what is autoplay set to?
19:40:49 <IVIaxPow3r> "Prompt me each time...."
19:41:10 <IVIaxPow3r> instead of opening Windows Media Player or some other options like that
19:41:25 <IVIaxPow3r> (btw - os is Windows XP)
19:41:47 <Darkbee> yeah, sorry I got mixed up... autoplay and autorun are not the same...
19:42:07 <Darkbee> I think autorun has to be disabled in the registry, so have you installed some security software recently?
19:42:10 <Darkbee> it might have disabled it.
19:42:41 <IVIaxPow3r> I haven't - but I am on a work computer currently
19:42:44 <Darkbee> dboki89, feel free to step in at any time... reaching physical limits of my knowledge! :(
19:42:58 <Darkbee> oh.. has it worked at work in the past?
19:43:12 <Darkbee> it's common for adminsn to disable autorun as a security feature
19:43:34 <IVIaxPow3r> the auto run hasn't - but it has at least prompted me to choose before - where PA was an option
19:43:35 <dboki89> Darkbee: it's really been quite a while since I mingled with Autorun... I disable it, and never look back at it..
19:46:05 <Darkbee> hhhmmm I've not used this myself and you might not even be able to but you could try this:
19:46:05 <Darkbee> http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.html#AutoRunSettings
19:46:10 <Darkbee> use at your discretion
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19:50:10 <IVIaxPow3r> thanks for the help
19:51:38 <Darkbee> I just tried the app out of curiosity, it shows autorun is enabled on my computer.
19:51:47 <Darkbee> I'd be curious to see what it says for yours.
19:53:12 <Darkbee> I always misread bensawsome as Ben'sAwesome :)
19:53:39 <dboki89> me too, if it's of any consolation :)
19:54:29 <Darkbee> Maybe Ben is awesome so I guess that'd be ok. I don't really know him though.
19:56:04 <IVIaxPow3r> I actually can't tell what it is saying...
19:56:12 <IVIaxPow3r> do I want a check mark or none?
19:56:59 <Darkbee> check mark means (I believe) "yes, auto run it" the left hand side is ALL USERS, and the right hand side is just YOU
19:57:10 <Pyromaniac> funny I looked dictionary.com for awsome and it said that it was a word (its the same as awesome
19:57:31 <Darkbee> so ben is quite possibly awsome and awesome? Nice.
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19:57:36 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
19:57:51 <Darkbee> I'm sure he's happy we're talking about him behind his back too. :)
19:57:52 <Pyromaniac> hey ben! we were just talking about you
19:57:59 <Darkbee> DOH!
19:58:21 <Pyromaniac> man he's gotta be psychic or something
19:58:41 <Darkbee> that's pretty awesome if it's true
19:59:01 <Darkbee> what color am I thinking of?
19:59:28 <Bensawsome> o.o
19:59:29 <dboki89> I never had a chance to chat with him, nor reply to his post, nor he to mine... Can't really tell. He seems like that quiet guy who watches everything from the shadows, pulls strings, knows things...
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20:01:08 <Darkbee> Mysterious!
20:01:18 <Darkbee> and awesome
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20:06:33 <Pyromaniac> http://portableapps.com/node/22843#comment-150609
20:10:42 <Darkbee> Ban User - self promotion! :D
20:11:46 <Pyromaniac> enough with that!
20:11:50 <dboki89> lol, that's for the #portableapps-ot channel :)
20:11:52 <Pyromaniac> off with your head!
20:13:16 <Darkbee> At least the chat is more lively now! :)
20:14:07 <Pyromaniac> did you see the comment?
20:18:14 <Darkbee> I saw it earlier..the guy from Vietnam?
20:18:48 <Darkbee> I guess I can't see anything wrong with pointing your domain at another domain..but why bother? Surely he's not THAT fanatical?
20:18:59 <Darkbee> What does he get out of it?
20:19:16 <Pyromaniac> I don't know, I wanted to ask him
20:19:35 <Darkbee> I'm happy to put a link to PortableApps on my website (I have a big banner in fact) but I wouldn't simply point my domain. :)
20:19:39 <Pyromaniac> but I didn't want to keep the topic going
20:19:50 <Darkbee> yeah..pity we don't have private messaging
20:20:07 <Pyromaniac> join the group
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23:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> How fascinating. I can't test Sweet Home 3D on my Server 2003 VM because it complains that it couldn't create a DirectX D3D context (no hardware or software renderer available).
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23:40:22 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan isnt that cause no windows server ox has directx?
23:40:33 <ChrisMorgan> Or I haven't installed it.
23:40:55 <Bensawsome> maybe
23:41:07 <Bensawsome> but by default windows server doesnt come with directx
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23:41:30 <Simeon> hi all
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23:42:36 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Simeon
23:43:27 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried removing the -Duser.home="%PAL:DataDir%\settings%"? I don't think it should change anything, but it'd be worth while trying.
23:44:14 <Simeon> dunno. I think I did and it then stored the settings locally.
23:44:49 <ChrisMorgan> It would. The point with it though is, did the open dialogue box work then?
23:45:56 <Simeon> too bad Im on linux now and cant really test. might be worth a shot
23:48:59 <ChrisMorgan> If it's something to do with USERPROFILE, Wine is more likely to work anyway, I think. Not sure precisely how different it is in the handling of all that.
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23:55:13 <Simeon> Ill give it another go tomorrow chris.
23:57:26 <ChrisMorgan> If it does work, then you'll need to move back and forth from %USERPROFILE%, and I'll have to revise my notes to indicate that setting user.home is the same as setting USERPROFILE.
23:57:43 <ChrisMorgan> So I think I mostly hope that's not the issue.