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01:55:24 <vf2nsr> dboki89: do you use earth clock?
01:55:41 <dboki89> vf2nsr: no, not really
01:55:48 <dboki89> why?
01:56:13 <vf2nsr> ok just updated it was going to give you a heads up
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01:57:11 <GizmoBot> ...
01:57:16 <vf2nsr> wasn't sure if you were one of the 194 that downloaded it
01:57:22 <dboki89> vf2nsr: I'm currently testing a package for Pyromaniac, you'll have to wait a little :)
01:58:04 <vf2nsr> np you are a busy person go back to work dboki89 ;)
01:58:36 <dboki89> :)
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03:01:17 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller1: you there?
03:02:10 <SergentSiler> hes set to away and i assume since he has yet to fix his nick, hes away
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03:05:13 <ChrisMorgan> Probably, but this way I probably get his attention at some points.
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03:08:39 <JohnTHaller> back
03:08:51 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JohnTHaller
03:08:58 <JohnTHaller> Howdy
03:09:05 <ChrisMorgan> I'd like to put the Installer in a Mercurial repository now.
03:09:10 <JohnTHaller> The installer changes, any of them functional or just code cleanup?
03:09:33 <JohnTHaller> As I said, not til after the 2.0 launch. I won't be able to update until I learn the whole Git system. So far I hate it.
03:09:39 <ChrisMorgan> Only one functional so far (PortableApps.com\development -> PortableApps.com/development in one MessageBox)
03:09:51 <ChrisMorgan> Mercurial, not Git.
03:09:55 <JohnTHaller> Same thing.
03:10:14 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think so... hg is somewhat more usable than git.
03:10:17 <JohnTHaller> I don't know any of them. And barely have CVS SVN Git and Hg functional enough to checkout a project once read-only
03:10:27 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, back after lunch.
03:10:33 <JohnTHaller> I'm leaving now
03:10:40 <JohnTHaller> bedtime. 11pm here
03:11:04 <JohnTHaller> So the schedule is the same for me. Once the 2.0 platform launches, I want to get it all in and learn it. But I don't have the time until that happens.
03:11:15 <JohnTHaller> The Windows tools for all of them are pretty annoying.
03:16:57 <Gizmokid2005> oh JohnTHaller - I'm going to drop a PR of Songbird 1.7.2 tomorrow
03:17:12 <Gizmokid2005> I figured out what my issue was with the crashing, but there seems to be some new files with paths, and reg keys...
03:23:34 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Did you regshot to figure it out? Do we have a new VC runtime issue we need to worry about?
03:24:17 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't gotten that far, just tonight before I went out I figured out the issue. I plan on digging into it tomorrow. I've got regshots already to go through, and I'm just going to update my portable copy and then regshot again and see what I come up with
03:25:03 <Gizmokid2005> I think I'm going to have more trouble figuring out which new files need string replaces in them for paths...but tomorrow, depending on the weather will determine what time, I'll get at least a PR up and then let you know when it's ready. I'll post in the thread about it and email you
03:25:37 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool
03:26:28 <Gizmokid2005> got a new vehicle for wife as her other one broke down and got some parts to replace, takes precedence. but I'd love to have it released tomorrow at some point
03:26:41 <JohnTHaller> yeah, real life usually trumps
03:26:50 <Gizmokid2005> KVirc is still being worked on, going to get another updated PR1 build of that as well, no new news on release timeframe of that yet either.
03:27:15 <Gizmokid2005> Yep, and it's supposed to be a nice day, not 85 with 95% humidity and not rainy or cold, so I"m going to take advantage of it.
03:27:17 <JohnTHaller> Keep an eye on it.
03:27:22 <JohnTHaller> Yeah.
03:27:32 <JohnTHaller> Speaking of real life, I must be off to bed :-)
03:27:38 <Gizmokid2005> I gotta get there too
03:27:39 <Gizmokid2005> cya JohnTHaller :)
03:27:40 <JohnTHaller> 3am night last night took the wind outta me
03:27:45 <Gizmokid2005> i hear ya
03:27:47 <JohnTHaller> gnight Gizmokid2005
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03:39:57 <Pyromaniac> hey chris
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03:58:05 <OliverK> its PatrickPatience!
03:58:34 <PatrickPatience> Yes.
03:58:44 <Bensawsome> yo pat
03:58:44 <PatrickPatience> How do I recover my Freenode password?
03:58:59 <Bensawsome> go to the freenode channel
03:59:09 <Bensawsome> and ask a op to send you a reset link
03:59:10 <PatrickPatience> Howdy Bensawsome.
04:00:10 <Pyromaniac> hey I got a joke for everybody
04:00:29 <Pyromaniac> why was the doctor so calm
04:00:48 <Pyromaniac> because he had patients!
04:00:55 <OliverK> old :p
04:01:01 <OliverK> still funny though
04:01:06 <Pyromaniac> patrick reminded me of that
04:01:12 <OliverK> lol
04:02:06 <PatrickPatience> Haha, wow.
04:02:13 <Pyromaniac> (in case you haven't noticed) I released Trillian Astra Portable 1.0
04:02:21 <Pyromaniac> that was for OliverK
04:02:32 <Pyromaniac> I mean the message
04:02:34 <OliverK> noticed, I haven't had time, again
04:02:39 <OliverK> :(
04:04:28 <Pyromaniac> 68 downloads totla
04:04:30 <Pyromaniac> total
04:05:01 * Pyromaniac hopes Cerulean studios will be kind enough as to let me redistribute Trillian
04:05:28 <Bensawsome> lol trillian
04:05:59 <Pyromaniac> why do you say that?
04:06:15 <PatrickPatience> lol trillion
04:06:18 <OliverK> heh, seems kind of flashy
04:06:24 <PatrickPatience> *trillian
04:06:31 <OliverK> well, when you use miranda IM all the time :p
04:06:37 <Bensawsome> or pidgin
04:06:37 <Bensawsome> xD
04:07:13 <Bensawsome> or adium
04:07:15 <Bensawsome> llol
04:07:26 <OliverK> yes, but we all don't use macs
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04:07:29 <OliverK> blech
04:07:34 <OliverK> :O
04:07:43 <Pyromaniac> gee thanks for the encouragement... I really feel like I've creeated an app that everyone wants to use :(
04:07:47 <OliverK> patrick has a ipad?! he's gone to the dark side :p
04:07:56 <OliverK> Pyromaniac: i'm interested in it, really
04:08:05 <Pyromaniac> yawn
04:08:21 <OliverK> however, i haven't really had time to set it up like i've got miranda setup
04:08:51 <Pyromaniac> ah
04:11:45 <Pyromaniac> is it safe to do a virus scan while you defragment your harddrive?
04:11:53 <OliverK> yeah
04:12:00 <OliverK> but i don't think it would be good
04:12:06 <OliverK> might drag on way to much
04:12:20 <Pyromaniac> oh, I mean, I was gonna do it all night
04:12:36 <Pyromaniac> might as well kill two birds with one fist
04:14:50 <Pyromaniac> ok, well I'm off to bed
04:14:52 <Pyromaniac> good night
04:14:58 <OliverK> night
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06:35:40 <pa_8321> hello, can someone help me?
06:38:04 <pa_8321> I had a portable app which it's exe file is in the sub-folder, how can I put a shortcut in the
06:38:26 <pa_8321> how can I create a shortcut for it?
06:40:59 <ChrisMorgan> If they're in another subdirectory it can't be done. If they're in a subdireectory of your PortableApps directory, they will appear in the Platform.
06:41:58 <pa_8321> Thanks, Chris.
06:43:30 <pa_8321> the app had been copied to the PortableApps directory, but the exe file is in a subdirectory.
06:45:32 <pa_8321> does this mean there will be no way to let it appear in the platform?
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06:49:19 <pa_8321> Hi Chris, any good sugestions?
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07:07:41 <pa_8321> bye, Chris
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08:34:27 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, do you know if the next beta / final release of the menu will have all the same languages as the installer? If not, I think you should list all applicable languages to the PAL manual.
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08:36:02 <Scriptdaemon> for language switching*
08:42:43 <ChrisMorgan> It'll support all the languages supported by the Platform.
08:43:09 <ChrisMorgan> For its own message boxes, it will support just the languages it has been translated into; a fairly small subset of those.
08:45:26 <Scriptdaemon> I know. I'm saying having a list in the manual of what languages the platform supports would make things much easier.
08:46:22 <Scriptdaemon> Unless there exists one somewhere already (the options menu nor the locale directory doesn't count).
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08:48:17 <ChrisMorgan> I was considering adding in a table of all the values.
08:49:23 <Scriptdaemon> :)
08:50:27 <Scriptdaemon> If the installer and the platform supported the same languages, it wouldn't be a problem (one could use the link on the PAF page), but there are a couple inconsistencies, especially with the new languages for the installer.
08:52:06 <ChrisMorgan> More the reason I was considering adding a table was so that the developer can select the most appropriate base easily.
08:52:25 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, make that one vote for me.
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08:54:34 <kenny> does any one know how the app compactor works
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08:56:12 <ChrisMorgan> Guest38653: it compresses things with UPX
08:56:35 <ChrisMorgan> Read its description, it describes about all there is to it.
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08:56:56 <Guest38653> how do I use it
08:57:49 <Scriptdaemon> It's pretty straight-forward. Load it, then select the root directory of the app you're developing when that part of the prompt shows.
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09:01:14 <Guest38653> just click on the folder the program is in?
09:02:12 <Scriptdaemon> Yes.
09:02:35 <Scriptdaemon> It should be the folder titled AppNamePortable, where AppName is the name of the base app.
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09:08:10 <Guest38653> I don't understand what just happened or where it was saved at? Did it just compress the files of that folder and keep it there?
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16:30:09 <cM> I have searched the site and have yet to find an answer so thought I would try in here
16:30:40 <cM> Is there under dev or in the idea pool the option to have multipule directories under the menu?
16:31:17 <cM> Example: cleaner (as main dir in menu) then when clicked it drops down to list other dirs within that one
16:31:21 <cM> does that make sense?
16:31:49 <cM> then from the dropped down dirs the apps are listed to whats stored in said dirs
16:39:05 <gluxon> cM: That's just about the most requested feature. :)
16:39:14 <gluxon> It's coming in the 2.0 Platform Beta 6
16:39:16 <cM> was hoping
16:39:45 <cM> ahh kk thanks I was just typing up this big long technical cool sounding post to go undere the requested apps section of the forum :)
16:39:56 <cM> under*
16:40:11 <cM> I will discard that then
16:40:18 <gluxon> Heh :P
16:41:20 <cM> Being in the IT industry that would be such a HUGE help. I do not think pchat allows me to use fonts big enough for the word HUGE to explain how much of a help that would be.
16:41:22 <cM> :D
16:42:21 <gluxon> lol :P
16:42:23 <cM> do you know if there is a roadmap page that shows the progress leading to 2.0 platfom?
16:42:43 <gluxon> No, sorry, nothing other than the site itself :(
16:43:10 <cM> or a page that one could post or chat about helping creating a roadmap and/or helping bring the 2.0 here quicker?
16:43:44 <cM> I am not a programmer but I can type, listen, serve, and obey to help if needed. :D
16:44:53 <gluxon> There's not much any of us can do. John's basically locked himself in a privite room and we haven't heard much :(
16:45:31 <cM> very nice
16:45:33 <cM> lol
16:46:42 <cM> I pray he is seeking wisdom to take pa.c to the next level. To realize there are a whole community willing to assit in bringing this to the next level :)
16:47:11 <gluxon> heh, lol.
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19:19:48 <Gringoloco> WhereAreTheApps: http://portableapps.com/apps
19:20:07 <Gringoloco> :)
19:20:48 <WhereAreTheApps> not the updated ones it seems :(
19:21:11 <WhereAreTheApps> http://portableapps.com/node/19705
19:22:05 <WhereAreTheApps> the flood appears to be a trickle
19:22:36 <Gringoloco> There is a list of updated apps on the home page, rest is probably comming soon
19:23:16 <WhereAreTheApps> "soon" as in the famous portableapps "this week"?
19:23:56 <WhereAreTheApps> and PA.c Format 2.0 and PA.c Installer 2.0 are not apps
19:29:38 <Gringoloco> Anyway, it's a good to get the new installer a bit tested before releasing everything at once
19:31:04 <WhereAreTheApps> it would have made more sense to release the apps that were ready a long time ago and then update to the new installer the next time the apps are updated
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21:48:54 <Hiccup> Lol
21:49:05 <gluxon> Hi Hiccup :)
21:49:15 <Hiccup> WhereAreTheApps
21:49:38 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps has them. :)
21:49:44 <WhereAreTheApps> yes ?
21:49:48 <Hiccup> Hi gluxon. How are you?
21:49:58 <Hiccup> Nice name
21:50:05 <WhereAreTheApps> if i had them i would not be here :(
21:50:06 <gluxon> Notice that Hiccup pinged you, not me :P
21:50:19 <WhereAreTheApps> not really, but it says it all doesn't it
21:50:19 <Hiccup> Ditto
21:51:03 <WhereAreTheApps> are you the famous gluxon i heard about?
21:51:43 <Hiccup> i say we get some angry villagers and march on John T Haller's house with torches and pitchforks
21:52:10 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps: I'm not really that big... or famous.
21:52:11 <WhereAreTheApps> i'm more annoyed than angry
21:52:25 <WhereAreTheApps> sorry, i mean the infamous gluxon,
21:52:32 <gluxon> That's more like it :D
21:52:35 <WhereAreTheApps> the one who just likes to hear himself talk
21:52:47 <Hiccup> Im VERY angry
21:52:48 <WhereAreTheApps> and usually isn't very helpful
21:52:56 <gluxon> :P
21:53:00 <gluxon> Why thank you :)
21:53:06 <gluxon> Lol, stalker :P
21:53:32 <WhereAreTheApps> Hiccup what app are you waiting for?
21:53:46 <gluxon> 2.0 platform, obviously :P
21:54:05 <WhereAreTheApps> gluxon could you keep out of it please
21:54:10 <Hiccup> ^^
21:54:44 <WhereAreTheApps> k, Hiccup, i thought you wanted an app
21:54:49 <Hiccup> well actually, that is what iv been waiting for. Plus a bunch of apps that are actually still test releases
21:55:52 <Hiccup> what program do you want?
21:56:11 <WhereAreTheApps> i figure the test releases will still take forever, but we were lead to believe the updates would be out a while back
21:57:15 <WhereAreTheApps> Audacity, Clamwin, Java 6 Update 20, OpenOffice.org 3.2.1, PeaZip 3.1.0, Task Coach 1.0.4, Warzone 2100 2.3.0
21:58:07 <Hiccup> i got so bored i started downloading test releases. Stuff from like 2008. A bunch were badly packaged but i found some really good ones
21:58:28 <WhereAreTheApps> I may go to the sister site for OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
21:59:37 <Hiccup> ones that should probably be released cause they seem to work perfectly. This task manager named daphne for example
22:00:30 <Hiccup> Iv found that extremely useful cause i frequently have to use computers where windows's task manager is disabled
22:02:47 <Hiccup> 2.0 is supposed to "revolutionize app development" cause you just edit INI files or something like that
22:04:16 <WhereAreTheApps> doesn't do much good if all the apps are held up waiting for it to be done :P
22:05:14 <WhereAreTheApps> especially the apps we are told were ready to go a month ago :(
22:05:52 <Hiccup> Yeah true. But what iv heard from reading the forums is that packaging apps will be much easier, so we should have a lot more additions than before, coming out a lot faster
22:07:03 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps: What do you mean by sister site?
22:07:12 <WhereAreTheApps> is that a "portableapps.com promise TM " :P
22:07:35 <Hiccup> Yeah John's pretty slow but I cant really say I blame him
22:07:39 <WhereAreTheApps> http://portableappz.blogspot.com
22:08:01 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps: You realize that is an illegal site right?
22:08:18 <Hiccup> A couple of websites I know have admins that are much, much worse
22:08:27 <Hiccup> Lol
22:08:37 <Gringoloco> Just do not mention that name, and their apps aren't trust worthy
22:08:42 <WhereAreTheApps> you realize that they actually release things, right
22:08:53 <Hiccup> Haha
22:09:03 <WhereAreTheApps> why are they not trustworthy?
22:09:20 <gluxon> Half of them aren't portable at all.
22:09:27 <gluxon> They leave bunch of stuff behind.
22:09:28 <Gringoloco> They do not spend enough time in testing their apps
22:09:52 <WhereAreTheApps> which apps leave things behind?
22:09:52 <gluxon> We go through a lot of thorough testing, which is why our apps go so much slower.
22:10:02 <Gringoloco> Take your words back
22:10:04 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps: Most of the Adobe's for example.
22:10:20 <gluxon> PhotoShop is proven to be phiscally impossible to Portabalize.
22:10:35 <WhereAreTheApps> that is not true gluxon , your apps go slower, this round, do to the platform, which many of us don't use
22:10:44 <Hiccup> Theres this website I know. The owner took it down in 2006, promising to have redesigned within a month
22:10:50 <WhereAreTheApps> i don't use the adobe apps
22:11:35 <Hiccup> he finally brought it back up in march of 2010. Unbelievable
22:11:50 <gluxon> Hiccup: Who are you refering to?
22:11:55 <gluxon> When you say he?
22:12:29 <Hiccup> The owner of the site. Did my earlier message not get through?
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22:13:14 <Hiccup> Its not like it some tiny website either. He used to get millions of unique visitors a month
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22:14:00 <gluxon> I don't mean to critisize, but that owner can do whatever he wants.
22:14:25 <Hiccup> Huh?
22:14:43 <gluxon> I'm saying that he doesn't owe you anything.
22:15:03 <Hiccup> That's true, but he kept making promises lol
22:15:15 <gluxon> Okay that's different then :/ :P
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22:16:04 <Hiccup> Once youve said youll do something then you've committed yourself. He kept saying to give him a couple more months
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22:16:55 <Hiccup> Promise or not, for you to take four years to finish redesigning your site is kind of ridiculous lol
22:17:32 <gluxon> Hiccup: I agree, but things do come up. Maybe it just isn't his top priority.
22:17:42 <Hiccup> In my humble opinion that's the epitome of lazy
22:17:50 <gluxon> Perhaps a he went bankrupt or something.
22:17:59 <Hiccup> Doubt it
22:18:05 <gluxon> You'll really never know, and you can't judge unless you do.
22:18:30 <Hiccup> the original site was up the whole time, as a "read only archive"
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22:20:08 <gluxon> WhereAreTheApps: Quick pm please?
22:20:35 <Hiccup> im trying to say its a big deal lol. It's just...wow. You know?
22:20:45 <Hiccup> Im not* trying
22:22:00 <gluxon> Heh, plane ticket :P
22:22:08 <Hiccup> i probably agree with what you said about it being his top priority
22:22:16 <Hiccup> Huh?
22:23:04 <WhereAreTheApps> well, i'm saying free or not, when you make promises and keep breaking them users get pissed, it's just natural, if you can't realize that, portableapps support is not the place to be :(
22:24:14 <Hiccup> All i can say is, when im getting something for free, i dont really have the right to complain
22:24:46 <WhereAreTheApps> that might make sense, if we were getting it :P
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22:25:42 <WhereAreTheApps> and as far as free is concerned i think at this point it's well known that the owner of your site wants to make a profit and the menu is the way to do it, which is fine, but if the apps suffer, it's not :(
22:27:19 <Hiccup> Lol dont look at me. Im just an ordinary Joe Schmo like you
22:27:59 <Hiccup> how's pa.c planning to make money through the menu?
22:28:00 <WhereAreTheApps> good point, sorry, i'm just venting in general, not at you
22:28:18 <Hiccup> No worries
22:28:44 <WhereAreTheApps> from what i have read while waiting it has something to do with hardware partnerships for drives that come with the menu
22:29:13 <Bensawsome> seriously if you dont like it you dont have to use it :P
22:29:18 <Bensawsome> there are plenty of alternatives
22:29:20 <WhereAreTheApps> or something like that
22:29:31 <Bensawsome> john has always done this
22:29:34 <WhereAreTheApps> i don't use it, i have no need for the menu
22:29:38 <Bensawsome> this is the same with any software developer
22:29:46 <Bensawsome> they give a release date
22:29:49 <Bensawsome> and when it comes
22:29:54 <Bensawsome> its not out
22:29:59 <Bensawsome> steam is a perfect example
22:30:12 * Bensawsome goes to game on steam xD
22:30:27 <dboki89> Bensawsome: +1 for what he said (all of it)
22:30:45 <Hiccup> I think John's a nice guy. He means well, but he's got too much to do by himself
22:30:46 <dboki89> s/he/you
22:31:24 <Hiccup> i think he should delegate more work to other people
22:32:01 <WhereAreTheApps> i agree, but again, when you make promises and keep breaking them users get pissed, it's just natural
22:32:37 <dboki89> WhereAreTheApps: there are other "venting" channels, like #defocus, or maybe even ##politics; this channel is meant for SUPPORT with PortableApps software. Do you need any assistance?
22:33:24 <WhereAreTheApps> dboki89: i was sitting quietly, i was the one who was queried
22:34:07 <Hiccup> Oh dont be such a party pooper. I dont see any problem with him venting in here, as long as nobody's legitimately asking for help
22:34:25 <WhereAreTheApps> ty Hiccup
22:34:49 <Hiccup> and as long as he doesnt actually get rude. Hes being pretty civil
22:34:53 <dboki89> WhereAreTheApps: oh, sorry for that, I see now in the logs. Still, ranting about something won't help anyone... Can this conversation kindly be stopped here?
22:35:44 <Hiccup> your welcome i guess lol
22:36:39 <Hiccup> the site i was talking about earlier is about airplane food. So even though it took the owner 4 years, nobody really got mad
22:40:04 <Hiccup> Heck, people hate airplane food. Its probably him bringing it back that people would be mad at =P
22:41:29 <WhereAreTheApps> i had a comment Hiccup but it seems mr dboki89 does not want anything but support chat :(
22:47:39 <Hiccup> I dont really see a problem with people talking about other things if nobody in here is actually asking for help...
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