IRC Log from 2010-06-10
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01:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I think I've got the manual for PAL 2.0 finalised: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/launcher/docs/
01:45:05 <ChrisMorgan> Including a table of language variable values: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/launcher/docs/topics/languages/#language-variable-values
01:51:08 <ChrisMorgan> And even though the table goes over the sidebar line, they don't clash in decent browsers thanks to a fuzzy white box-shadow.
01:57:31 <sar3th> PAF 1.0?
02:02:09 <sar3th> apart from that, it looks quite nice
02:13:26 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, suppose it does still have PAF 1.0.
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02:41:21 <cM> just checked the link and it is clean looking
02:41:50 <cM> will that layout and data stay on your site or will it be moved to pa.c?
02:49:31 <ChrisMorgan> It will be copied to PortableApps.com.
02:49:56 <ChrisMorgan> Probably with a URL like portableapps.com/development/launcher/manual or portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_launcher/manual
02:55:08 <cM> ahh cool
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03:43:36 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: now has PAF 2.0
03:44:38 <sar3th> nice
03:45:53 <ChrisMorgan> So with that done, I think I'm ready to bundle up and send PAL 2.0 to John for release probably tomorrow. And finish the last updates on the app template too.
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04:16:19 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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05:02:37 <Veixes> portableapps.com is down... hmmm
05:03:40 <OliverK> not here
05:05:41 <Veixes> Is back online for me. I guess it had a hiccup :)
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06:13:55 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: Sorry about yesterday, got disconnected and had to go to work
06:14:30 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco: have you got anything else that I should change before releasing PAL 2.0?
06:15:15 <Gringoloco> Official releaese ? :)
06:15:31 <Gringoloco> give me 10 min
06:18:48 <ChrisMorgan> I've built the manual and put it online, I don't think I've got any more modifications to make with it.
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06:20:15 <Gringoloco> I can't come up with anything, other than that I like EmptyWorkingSet.nsh
06:21:08 <Gringoloco> I haven't got much experience with using the manual, so I don't know about that
06:22:21 * ChrisMorgan likes the EmptyWorkingSet call too. Nice and memory efficient.
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06:24:46 <Gringoloco> I think we did decide that '$EXEDIR\Data\settings is ave enough to use ?
06:24:58 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: Safe
06:31:24 <ChrisMorgan> Safe, provided you don't need to write to it.
06:31:40 <Gringoloco> No just read.
06:33:08 <Gringoloco> I just thought (now) that probably my issue could be fixed with LocaleIDhex value, and then writing it to reg file as an INI value. But don't worry about it, custum-code is fine for that as well
06:33:40 <Gringoloco> Like an extra Language env.var
06:36:16 <ChrisMorgan> You saw the language table in the manual?
06:37:31 <Gringoloco> I had a quick look on it, but I can't see any hex values?
06:38:51 <Gringoloco> My computer can't handle scrolling the languge table !
06:40:23 <ChrisMorgan> Scrolling? Why scrolling?
06:41:06 <Gringoloco> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/launcher/docs/topics/languages/#topics-languages
06:41:08 <ChrisMorgan> I wasn't meaning to show it to you as a solution to your problem, but just as something which may be useful at some time and something I mentioned to you earlier as something I should do.
06:41:19 <ChrisMorgan> Why is it needing scrolling for you?
06:41:28 <Gringoloco> It takes about 2 screens on FireFox
06:42:26 <ChrisMorgan> You're using a netbook, are you?
06:42:47 <Gringoloco> Laptop, we call it
06:45:21 <Gringoloco> Intel Celeron M, 1.60GHz, 960MB, I normally do not have scrolling this bad even if there are graphics on the page, but this is basacilly just text
06:46:20 <ChrisMorgan> The reason why will be the box shadow on the table so that the sidebar line doesn't clash with it.
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07:08:44 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: ah, just one note about the languages; recently, just as US english has been marked as "en-US", Serbian is referred to as "sr-RS", and Croatian as "hr-HR", although I'm not sure how official has the latter become
07:09:34 <ChrisMorgan> dboki89: my table is based on what the Platform uses.
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08:50:35 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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09:27:10 <Maveric> Does anyone know how to change the default web browser on PA?
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14:08:56 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:29:38 <Pyromaniac> what is "My Documents" in terms of $
15:29:46 <Pyromaniac> like $APPDATA
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16:00:15 <Simeon> hi all
16:00:34 <ZachThibeau> howdy Simeon :D
16:00:57 <Simeon> @ pyromaniac: theres no variable, just a reg entry!
16:01:02 <Simeon> hi Zach
16:01:07 <Pyromaniac> where?
16:01:12 <Simeon> lots of logging on and off today? ;)
16:01:21 <Simeon> http://www.indigorose.com/forums/threads/3851-Does-the-My-documents-built-In-variable-exist
16:01:37 <Pyromaniac> thank you
16:01:59 <Simeon> list of variables: http://kennethhunt.com/archives/000933.html
16:02:00 <Pyromaniac> I just found out today that midori is leaving a folder in my documents... what kinda program does that?
16:02:14 <Pyromaniac> ah I used this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable
16:02:16 <Simeon> i dont know any I think
16:02:22 <Pyromaniac> it didn't help
16:02:29 <Pyromaniac> thanks
16:02:50 <Simeon> if its not on Wikipedia, you probably wont find it anywhere else :)
16:03:05 <Pyromaniac> good point
16:03:23 <Pyromaniac> so how do I go about saving the folder?
16:03:48 <Pyromaniac> My Documents\webkit
16:03:50 <Simeon> you could read its location from the ergistry, back it up and restore it as usual.
16:04:15 <Simeon> Lots of custom code though :(
16:04:39 <Pyromaniac> -_-
16:05:40 <ZachThibeau> man it's going to take some getting used to my new keyboard :/
16:14:59 <Simeon> Haha: http://www.convar.com/bytespotter/default.htm?po=1&language=2
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16:28:57 <Simeon> cu around guys
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17:22:28 <dboki89> If anyone cares, I'll be absent for a little longer while again; starting from this weekend...
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17:24:06 <Veixes> don't go too wild
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17:25:38 <dboki89> don't worry :) I probably won't
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21:05:11 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
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22:14:23 <Gringoloco> ZachThibeau: Are you working on PChat again ?
22:15:05 <ZachThibeau> always working
22:15:35 <ZachThibeau> working on 1.1
22:15:43 <Gringoloco> How are you getting on ?
22:17:11 <ZachThibeau> fairly decently, got what I called Portable mode built in so at compile time PORTABLE_BUILD needs to be defined to create portable version, codebase has been updated from the 2.8.8 release of xchat, and also been adding updates to xtext on how it loads text
22:17:36 <ZachThibeau> so all in all it's a slew of updates
22:19:21 <Gringoloco> Are you having the languages sorted out
22:19:22 <Gringoloco> ?
22:19:37 <ZachThibeau> haven't got much back from users :(
22:19:44 <ZachThibeau> but language switching will work
22:21:18 <Gringoloco> Beware, there used to be a fair few 'XChat' strings in some of the files, still
22:21:41 <ZachThibeau> thats what I'm aware of
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23:51:38 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear :-( make_release 2.0 didn't work quite right.