IRC Log from 2010-06-15
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00:24:08 <gluxon> Hiccup came in once asking for a plane ticket >_<
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00:25:08 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
00:26:40 <gluxon> Hey Zach :)
00:26:53 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: I know
00:26:56 <Gizmokid2005> he's come in before too
00:27:38 <gluxon> Yeah.
00:28:42 <Gizmokid2005> He's PMed me and argued with me, so his "problem" is not so severe, quite honestly I think he's trolling.
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02:05:56 <vf2nsr> When using CloseEXE=another.app.exe in the launcher.ini file does that relate to only a portable launched app or any app that is running on the host computer?
02:07:34 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: any executable image running with that filename.
02:08:23 <vf2nsr> Great tyvm ChrisMorgan thought so but wanted to make sure....is ther a way to create a custom response if app is running to tell them to shut it down or is that already handled?
02:10:27 <ChrisMorgan> It puts up a message box saying to close it first.
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02:10:36 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
02:11:01 <digitxp> anyone check this out? http://www.romab.com/ironfox/
02:11:42 <vf2nsr> again tyvm ChrisMorgan was not sure working on a new repackage and want it to work out appreciate assistance will return if I get bamboozled any more
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02:14:11 <ChrisMorgan> digitxp: seems to me it covers things that most (almost all) people won't care about, and only on Mac OS X.
02:16:27 <digitxp> but if it doesn't go too deep into the Mac OS apis then we can possibly use the code to replicate something on windows and linux as well, and for different things
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02:27:31 <sar3th> "10.4 does not support the kernel features required" sounds like very system specific calls
02:27:40 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
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02:29:05 <sar3th> i am off. bye
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02:56:13 <vf2nsr> if anyone has a chance to look at a launcher.ini file I am bamboozled as to why it will not work. It is here http://tinypaste.com/9fae6
03:02:35 <vf2nsr> guess it is in a variable oh well back to the drawing board thanks anyway
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03:02:53 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net
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06:32:38 <vf2nsr> someone may want to look at this post? http://portableapps.com/node/22387#new
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06:44:18 <vf2nsr> Hi Chris
06:45:38 <ChrisMorgan> Eek! New button styles on PortableApps.com =-O
06:46:16 <vf2nsr> yup them grayish things?
06:47:02 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
06:47:08 <vf2nsr> checking out all the spam are you lol
06:47:13 <ChrisMorgan> Yep.
06:47:21 <vf2nsr> only saw one
06:47:33 <ChrisMorgan> I've killed two just now: a thread and a comment.
06:47:43 <vf2nsr> but they were not smart enough to code thier website properly
06:48:01 <vf2nsr> websitedesign newyork?
06:48:39 <vf2nsr> well done
06:48:48 <vf2nsr> hope you didn't kill my thread
06:49:29 <ChrisMorgan> I've killed that comment from various users four or five times in the last week.
06:50:17 <vf2nsr> ahhhh
06:50:33 <vf2nsr> so preloaded in your cross hairs
06:52:43 <vf2nsr> I see installer was updated
06:53:55 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. That fixes the languages thing, not sure what other of my patches John included yet.
06:54:16 <ChrisMorgan> It's all still UTF-16LE rather than UTF-8 which is an absolute pain for diffing.
06:56:56 <ChrisMorgan> The bug fixes seem to have been put in, so I can tell Jon he can try building BPBible Portable 0.4.6 again, and that registry thing someone had with a space in it should be fixed too.
06:57:22 <ChrisMorgan> And the biggest optimisation in PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi, the stopping doing everything 10 times and just doing it once as a macro, has been put in too.
06:57:25 <vf2nsr> great
06:57:50 <vf2nsr> things are definitely progressing
06:58:39 <ChrisMorgan> Well it wasn't /everything/ 10 times but various things which were done 10 times are now done just once.
06:59:19 <vf2nsr> Ihear you sometimes repition is ridiculous
07:00:03 <ChrisMorgan> When I mentioned it to my Dad and eldest brother they both smiled and one of them commented that I was suffering from the same affliction that we all do in the family :-)
07:00:23 <ChrisMorgan> In programming, it's often good to be lazy.
07:00:43 <vf2nsr> Question? When I joined it had a subscription to a monthly newsletter how old is that? never seen one?
07:01:27 <ChrisMorgan> A full newsletter hasn't come out for a long time. One may be in the works for another 2.0 announcement, but I'm not sure.
07:01:47 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: read http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/launcher/docs/ref/launcher.ini/filesystem/ "The target directory is the full path to the directory the file is copied to during the program execution. Do not include the file name."
07:02:10 <vf2nsr> ok will look
07:03:07 <vf2nsr> Yes I tried that already hte paste was like my 25th ini
07:03:42 <vf2nsr> let me try again
07:03:42 <ChrisMorgan> Key part: "Do not include the file name."
07:04:20 <vf2nsr> But in the APPDATA thedirectory is just appdata not a subdirectory
07:04:54 <ChrisMorgan> Then just put %APPDATA%.
07:05:05 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. settings\googsystray.ini=%APPDATA%\googsystray.ini should be settings\googsystray.ini=%APPDATA%
07:05:10 <vf2nsr> and not really sure the variable to use for the local settings temp
07:05:49 <vf2nsr> ok what about the local settings temp?
07:07:55 <ChrisMorgan> That's just %TEMP%, which is taken care of.
07:08:00 <vf2nsr> nope did not save it back to portable data
07:08:20 <vf2nsr> but temp files remain on drive?
07:10:38 <vf2nsr> ok just found a typo on appdata let me recheck it now
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07:12:35 <ChrisMorgan> Pretty sure Local Settings\Temp is %TEMP%.
07:12:36 <vf2nsr_> grr I hate isp they do a reset every morning at this time
07:13:04 <vf2nsr_> ok let me try
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07:14:39 <vf2nsr_> appreciate your assistance
07:14:41 <ChrisMorgan> Open Command Prompt and "set TEMP" to see what TEMP is easily.
07:15:33 <vf2nsr_> looks correct let me try program again
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07:17:08 <vf2nsr> /msg NickServ identify @Azzie1
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07:18:22 <vf2nsr> wow that was a heck of a trip
07:19:04 <vf2nsr> that appears to have removed the temp files but there is no way to save them in data?
07:19:45 <vf2nsr> as one is an error log?
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07:34:56 <vf2nsr> ty ChrisMorgan|away no idea how that all happened but password is new now
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07:35:57 <ChrisMorgan> If you think it's important to keep the error log file, you'd just put a line like settings\googsystray.err.log=%TEMP%
07:36:28 <vf2nsr> ok one more question not previously asked?
07:37:44 <vf2nsr> in the closeexe=googledesktop I need for google desktop not to run. Now the error mnessage says another instance of googsystray is running is there a way to change that?
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07:41:29 <ChrisMorgan> That's the message that it uses. It's not customisable. (It'd be a headache for translators if it was...)
07:41:41 <vf2nsr> :(
07:41:53 <vf2nsr> oh well doesn't hurt to ask
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07:42:09 <vf2nsr> Just discovered this may have been all in vain? :(
07:42:38 <vf2nsr> Wrote to author of program, no way to change the default browser...it uses the host machine default
07:43:12 <vf2nsr> unless I can figure a way to launch FFP from commandline
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07:47:47 <vf2nsr> Wait I could write a batch file to do it
07:48:05 <vf2nsr> ok back to work
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10:50:57 <pa_0268> .seen JohnTHaller
10:50:57 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
10:51:07 <pa_0268> -.-"
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15:34:00 <pa_6393> i've got a problem with thunderbird portable, can anyone help me?
15:37:57 <pa_6393> erm, hello!?
15:40:42 <benedikt93> just ask your question
15:41:20 <benedikt93> It's difficult ro say if we can help when we don't konw it ;)
15:41:26 <benedikt93> *to
15:43:22 <pa_6393> i'm using tp for a few weeks now and it worked well till today. I started it and all data (email-clients, adress book) was deleted
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15:45:24 <benedikt93> In never had such a problem, but you may want to search the PAc forums (http://portableapps.com/forums , search bar is in the upper right) as I remember other people asking for support on this. O maybe somebody else here knows, so just wait a bit.
15:56:55 <pa_6393> ok thanks. seems like backing up the prefs.js file could work for me
16:00:39 <pa_6393> but since we know it's more common for files to get corrupted on portable media, wouldn't it be nice if the program backed up sensitive files itslf?
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16:05:35 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6393: that's not logical
16:05:41 <Gizmokid2005> where is it supposed to back them up, and when?
16:05:47 <Gizmokid2005> that's why the menu has a built-in utility for backups :)
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16:08:15 <pa_6393> ok i haven't noticed that
16:08:21 <pa_6393> thanks again
16:08:41 <pa_6393> bye
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16:49:13 <Simeon> hi all
16:49:25 <Pyromaniac> hi!
16:49:33 <Pyromaniac> IE sucks
16:49:39 <Simeon> I know
16:49:42 <Simeon> :)
16:49:58 <Pyromaniac> I just found out another reason to hate it
16:50:06 <Pyromaniac> go to -ot
16:51:17 <Simeon> I just read the logs rfom yesterday... it is better to have one person provide support to another and the others discuss additional help in -ot imho!
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17:16:03 <Simeon> hi rouilj
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17:17:48 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
17:21:30 <Simeon> hi Zach
17:35:44 <Simeon> cuall
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17:36:09 <benedikt93|AFK> ZachThibeau: A question concerning PChat: How long / to which length are the logs saved?
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21:04:17 <pa_0918> I have heard that there is a portablwapp version of roboform but cant seem to find it. Does anyone know about it? TIA
21:07:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0918: search the forums, I can't say I've heard of it.
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