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02:38:35 <pa_9837> I have a question
02:39:18 <pa_9837> how many downloads does portableapps.com have of chrome?
02:47:57 <Bensawsome> pa_9837 what do you mean? like how many mirrors?
02:48:31 <pa_9837> what are mirrors?
02:48:45 <Bensawsome> like
02:48:50 <pa_9837> I want to know how many people download it
02:48:54 <Bensawsome> a copy of the download on different servers
02:49:01 <Bensawsome> oh
02:49:15 <Bensawsome> i think those stats are only available to the admin
02:49:20 <Bensawsome> not completely sure though
02:49:36 <pa_9837> who is the admin
02:49:42 <Bensawsome> johnhaller
02:49:48 <Bensawsome> why do you wanna know?
02:50:07 <pa_9837> it doesn't say on the page
02:50:22 <pa_9837> normally it tells you at the bottom
02:50:50 <Bensawsome> well if chrome doesnt aand all the other apps do i dunno
02:50:59 <pa_9837> ok
02:51:01 * Bensawsome looks on the site
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02:51:40 <Bensawsome> ...
02:51:45 <Bensawsome> lol
02:51:50 <Pyromaniac> I always ask that and nobody answers :(
02:52:23 <Pyromaniac> so I thought I'd act foreign
02:52:37 <OliverK> bleh
02:52:46 <OliverK> can't you see it on the source forge page?
02:53:08 <Pyromaniac> I didn't think to ccheck
02:55:08 <Pyromaniac> I just wanted to know if there was acertain number of downloads that had to take place before it was posted
02:55:26 <OliverK> oh
02:55:33 <OliverK> development version?
02:56:13 <Pyromaniac> no, I mean the official version has to have so many downloads before that number can go public
02:56:21 <Pyromaniac> was my question
02:56:39 <OliverK> no, it should be right on the sourceforge page
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02:58:21 <Pyromaniac> alright now I got a real question
02:58:21 <Gizmokid2005> it is right on the SF page
02:58:27 <Gizmokid2005> if it's an SF hosted DL
02:58:48 <Pyromaniac> my internet can barely handle sourceforge, so I'll just wait for when i go to a public PC
02:59:14 <Pyromaniac> I edited PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh
02:59:51 <Pyromaniac> The installer won't allow me to rename "$INSTDIR\Yod'm 3D" "$INSTDIR\Yodm3D"
02:59:57 <Gizmokid2005> you can check them here... http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=151265&ugn=portableapps&type=prdownload
03:00:01 <Pyromaniac> I think its because of the '
03:00:20 <Gizmokid2005> You need to escape it
03:00:24 <Gizmokid2005> with "\" iirc
03:00:29 <Gizmokid2005> and now I"m off to bed
03:00:42 <Pyromaniac> how do I get around the problem?
03:00:48 <Pyromaniac> whhat?
03:00:56 <Pyromaniac> ok bye!
03:01:13 <OliverK> yeah
03:02:02 <Pyromaniac> I don't understand what Gizmokid2005 said
03:02:49 <Pyromaniac> whats iirc (or irc)?
03:02:59 <sar3th> he meant try this: "$INSTDIR\Yod\'m 3D" "$INSTDIR\Yodm3D"
03:03:01 <OliverK> if i recall correctly
03:03:15 <Pyromaniac> ah, I had never seen that before
03:03:27 <OliverK> GoogleChromePortable_5.0.375.55_online.paf.exe 1.4 MB 2010-06-04 36,885
03:04:25 <ChrisMorgan> Pyromaniac: I imagine what you want is this: Rename "$INSTDIR\App\Yod'm 3D" "$INSTDIR\App\Yodm3D"
03:05:43 <OliverK> Pyromaniac: total downloads for all stuff Google Chrome Portable 11.4 MB 2010-06-04 639,998
03:05:56 <OliverK> no
03:06:05 <OliverK> he needs to escape the quotes
03:06:15 <Pyromaniac> yes
03:06:16 <ChrisMorgan> " can be escaped as $\" like "$\"", or just used as `"` in strings with ` or ' delimiters, but ' and ` aren't documented as allowed.
03:06:32 <ChrisMorgan> There is no escaping of ' or `
03:07:02 <Pyromaniac> so... your saying I can't rename?
03:07:03 <sar3th> that means Gizmokid2005 was on the wrong track
03:07:30 <ChrisMorgan> Pyromaniac: sure you can. The difference with mine was the App subdirectory which I think you want.
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03:12:44 <ChrisMorgan> Pyromaniac: in case you missed my last line, "Pyromaniac: sure you can. The difference with mine was the App subdirectory which I think you want."
03:14:09 <sar3th> i'm off to bed as well, bye
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03:18:20 <Pyromaniac> hi again, sorry I lost you again
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03:19:41 <Pyromaniac> hello GizmoBot
03:19:42 <GizmoBot> Hi Pyromaniac
03:19:53 <Pyromaniac> hi GizmoBot
03:19:53 <GizmoBot> Hi Pyromaniac
03:20:02 <Pyromaniac> ok
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03:21:10 <OliverK> kitty is pretty awesome :)
03:21:30 <Pyromaniac> am I in -ot?
03:21:34 <OliverK> no
03:21:40 <OliverK> try /topic
03:21:53 <OliverK> oops, well depending on your client it will work
03:22:00 <Pyromaniac> Insufficient arguments for command.
03:22:14 <OliverK> oops, admin command :p
03:22:15 <OliverK> sorry
03:22:33 <Pyromaniac> I am an admin
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03:22:55 <Pyromaniac> I mean on my computer
03:23:05 <OliverK> hangon, join #oliverk
03:23:09 <OliverK> i'll explain
03:23:10 <Pyromaniac> I tried konversation, but it doesn't work
03:23:21 <Pyromaniac> so I just use the one in portable apps.com
03:23:22 <Pyromaniac> ok
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03:38:31 <Pyromaniac_> hi GizmoBot
03:38:31 <GizmoBot> Hello Pyromaniac_!
03:38:50 <Pyromaniac_> ChrisMorgan: it didn't work
03:38:55 <Pyromaniac_> its not renaming
03:39:19 <Pyromaniac_> although I could make the launcher rename it
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03:55:09 <Mokura> Question that might be kind of awkward due to XChat Portable (and possibly PChat) using GTK+: How do I set a different fallback font for non-Latin characters, such as Japanese? Editing the files in .\App\GTK\etc\fonts\conf.avail and conf.d don't seem to do anything. I basically want the fallback font for Japanese to be "MS Gothic" instead of "Arial Unicode MS".
03:55:35 <Mokura> Note that this has nothing to do with the default font used, that's fine as it is.
04:25:10 <OliverK|Away> look for a gtkrc file
04:25:34 <OliverK|Away> o'm not usre where it is located Mokura, and sorry for the delay. I think that might be what you need
04:25:52 <Mokura> I know where it is, I edited it for disabling the system speaker beep via gtk-error-bell or something.
04:26:26 <Mokura> .App\GTK\etc\gtk-2.0\gtkrc
04:26:40 <Mokura> just as long as I don't change themes, it doesn't auto-overwrite like it warns me =p
04:26:57 <Mokura> Anyway, gtkrc opened.
04:29:59 <Mokura> -oh, as it it might need to go there. hm. I really don't know much about GTK, so I'll have to muck around with it a bit, I guess.
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05:07:00 <pa_6994> curious if there is any fix for the autorun on windows 7?
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15:34:38 <Pyromaniac> is it just me or is the PA server slow today?
15:37:34 <sar3th> it's just you
15:38:51 <Pyromaniac> as soon as you said that, it got faster
15:39:50 <sar3th> ;)
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18:20:39 <Chriz> Hi
18:20:52 <Chriz> is it possible to repackage an app to use only one exe without a folder?
18:21:09 <Chriz> (kind of like osx)
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18:31:54 <Pyromaniac> how do you mean chriz?
18:32:40 <Chriz> basically pack all files/dirs into an exe so I can just have one file for an entire app
18:32:50 <Pyromaniac> yes
18:33:01 <Pyromaniac> but you will not be able to save settings
18:33:10 <Pyromaniac> thats why we have folders
18:33:17 <MaienM> it is _technically_ speaking possible
18:33:25 <MaienM> in some cases
18:33:32 <MaienM> but not practical for a number of reasons
18:33:42 <MaienM> one being, like Pyromaniac said, storing settings
18:34:22 <Chriz> Also what is your guy's running rate for creating a portable app?
18:34:46 <MaienM> it'll only practical/possible for very simple apps which don't use libraries and don't have settings
18:36:30 <MaienM> Chriz: what do you mean?
18:36:33 <Chriz> MaienM, what about services?
18:37:01 <Chriz> and I really don't want to learn all of this stuff (It would be easier to just refer one of you to my client to do this)
18:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> Chriz: we don't get paid to do this
18:37:42 <Gizmokid2005> the best you can do is post your request in the Request Apps forum and hope someone picks it up
18:37:53 <Chriz> Gizmokid2005, does that mean you wouldn't be willing to get paid for doing it?
18:38:08 <Pyromaniac> nobody is
18:38:19 <Gizmokid2005> As part of the organization, PortableApps.com, no.
18:38:35 <MaienM> we all do this on a voluntary basis, but because of that we only do apps we chose to
18:38:45 <Gizmokid2005> You might be able to persuade someone personally to do it for you, but not via PortableApps
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20:21:07 <leftyfb> hm, not John today huh?
20:21:12 <leftyfb> http://lifehacker.com/5565124/disable-the-portableapps-splash-screen-with-a-simple-text-edit
20:21:19 <leftyfb> might be something to consider making into an option
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20:55:47 <Gizmokid2005> leftyfb: it is an option
20:55:59 <Gizmokid2005> that's how you do it leftyfb
20:56:04 <Gizmokid2005> and how it's designed to be done
21:18:17 <leftyfb> can't be a checkbox in preferences somewhere?
21:20:42 <Gizmokid2005> what preferences leftyfb?
21:20:45 <Gizmokid2005> and how would you access them?
21:21:03 <Gizmokid2005> that's the problem, those options are about as easy as you can make them with the way PA.c is designed.
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