IRC Log from 2010-06-20
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00:26:49 <TimClark> By the way JohnTHaller: , the Rev 2 for Warzone 2100 2.3.1 is not showing on the PA.c homepage or the RSS feeds
00:27:25 <JohnTHaller> It's just the old topic updated.
00:27:37 <TimClark> ahh, ok
00:27:45 <JohnTHaller> We always do that for same-day updates
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00:51:38 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: "released in 14 languages. It's the popular he popular Mozilla Sunbird calendar and task manager"
00:53:03 <JohnTHaller> fixed thnks
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00:53:07 <TimClark> yw
00:59:44 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: for a future release of CWP I would still suggust that we disable the default "Unload Infected Progams from Computer Memory", [This setting is for them memory scan and is not affected by the Report Only selection of the file scan] this can cause problems when flase positives occur, since CW is open source I assume we can do this
01:00:50 <TimClark> I remember I lost all my CWP settings when CW killed the CWP launcher as a result of a FP a while back
01:01:54 <TimClark> In the event of a more important FP detection of a program in memory this could make a mess
01:02:32 <JohnTHaller> We stick to the defaults except for portability or support issues. That's only happened once in like 4 years.
01:04:03 <TimClark> Ok, if you say so, but I still recall when CW was saying that Notepad was infected, but hopefully the new Digial Signature recognition of Windows System files will make it less likely
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01:31:11 <JohnTHaller> TimClark: Think I should play it safe and do a new Rev of CWP and have it reset the DB on upgrades from older versions?
01:33:59 <TimClark> Sorry, sushi, i'm back for a minute
01:34:31 <TimClark> I would agree that a new rev should be done JohnTHaller , to be safe
01:34:44 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'm doin it
01:35:00 <TimClark> A shame to kill the main.cvd though
01:35:30 <TimClark> I still think it could be done with just deleting the daily, but I guess that up to you
01:36:20 <TimClark> You might want to mention the situation in the Rev to at least give folks an option to copy the main.cvd, or do you think that's too clunky JohnTHaller
01:36:26 <JohnTHaller> Better to be safe than sorry. And that forces the upgrade.
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01:38:05 <JohnTHaller> There are definitely update server issues. One is down. One is serving a bad main.cvd.
01:39:00 <TimClark> That I don't know what to say about, that's why I keep my main.cvd, I would hate to have to redownload 22 MB
01:40:19 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: So, those of us who have Rev 2 working ok, won't need to bother with Rev 3, right ?
01:41:01 <TimClark> I'm guessing if you change anything else you would mention it
01:43:16 <JohnTHaller> correct
01:43:57 <marlop> hi all, pchat(latest from pa.com) has issues with path with spaces in it(aparently)
01:44:55 <JohnTHaller> please post a bug report detailing it in the forum. zach's (the dev) isn't here.
01:45:03 <marlop> ok
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01:47:46 <TimClark> marlop: please before to post it as a new topic, not as part of the News Release
01:47:54 <TimClark> be sure * correction
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01:51:30 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: myguess is that the clearing of the CVD/s would only be needed for this release, as in the future it would be less likely to matter as CWP would already have the newly added file
01:54:22 <JohnTHaller> That's what I'
01:54:24 <JohnTHaller> m doing
01:55:04 <JohnTHaller> The installer checks the current installed version and if it's less than 0.96.1 Rev 3, it'll clear the DB. Otherwise, it leaves it alone.
01:55:59 <TimClark> So, like , when .096.2 comes out, it would would not need to do the clearing, sounds good
01:56:39 <JohnTHaller> Right. The code will still be there. But if you're running 0.96.1 Rev 3 or higher, it won't do anything. If you're running 0.95.1 and upgrade to 0.96.2, it'll clear it. It's smart code.
01:57:15 <TimClark> On that note, back to Sushi :D
02:10:32 <JohnTHaller> Ok, it's up. And I think I'm done for now. Everything is updated except OO.o while we finish up the new Oracle branding. Now I'm gonna grab a bite.
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03:01:49 <BuddhaChu> hmm...jth isn't around i see
03:02:42 <BuddhaChu> alrighty then...good talkin' with ya!
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13:43:33 <prashant> hello sir
13:43:50 <prashant> ?
13:45:21 <prashant> u thr..?
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15:42:26 <joby_toss> hi
15:42:40 <joby_toss> any PChat users around?
15:42:58 <joby_toss> need some help with User Defined Commands
15:44:03 <joby_toss> Any way to add 2 or more command actions to the same command name?
15:44:32 <joby_toss> Thanks!
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17:06:25 <stephan_> hi
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17:31:44 <TimClark> Anybody here using the new version of ClamWinPortable Rev 2 or 3 ?
17:44:53 <marlop> TimClark, have you seen ZatchTibeau today?
17:45:44 <TimClark> No, But I have only been here for about 45 min
18:13:27 <TimClark> marlop: is this about your bug post for Zchat ?
18:13:43 <TimClark> Sorry, I mean PChat
18:14:16 <marlop> yes, as i found what is the problem and how to fix it
18:14:29 <TimClark> I'm sure he will read it
18:19:28 <TimClark> Marlop: your fix looks pretty easy, other than that does everything else seem stable ?
18:19:45 <marlop> yes
18:20:04 <TimClark> Have you run Pchat thru it's paces ?
18:20:12 <marlop> ?
18:21:04 <TimClark> Sorry, English expression , have you used it a lot, tried all kinds of things, in effect TRIED to break it ?
18:24:29 <TimClark> I'm asking because if it's going to need a Rev 2 we might as well make sure there are no other hidden bugs not found yet, do, say to rarely used feature
18:24:40 <marlop> tried most of the things(just not the settings/advanced things) and poked with all the settings that aren't related to the bogus gtk tray icon
18:25:42 <TimClark> marlop: You're not using the new ClamWinPortable are you ?
18:26:02 <marlop> no
18:26:08 <TimClark> Ok, thanks
18:27:13 <TimClark> I'm having a slight problem and I want to see if it's a "just me" situation before posting about it
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19:56:36 <pa_3167> How do you apply extensions to portable dreamweaver
19:57:31 * pa_3167 really needs help with applying extensions
19:58:02 * pa_3167 has tryed using extension manager, but thts portable too so nothing is linked and says that dreamweaver isnt installed
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19:59:06 <pa_8430> does any1 wanna help me
19:59:14 <pa_8430> or will yous be inactive
19:59:29 <pa_8430> ?
19:59:48 <pa_8430> :@ fuck yous then
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20:04:40 <gluxon> Why do we always have impatient guests? :/
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20:45:00 <gluxon> Hello TimClark.
20:46:43 <TimClark> Hello Gluxon , could you read my topic and follow up and see if it makes sense http://portableapps.com/node/23957 ?
20:51:42 <sar3th> hi
20:51:49 <sar3th> should i read it as well TimClark?
20:51:56 <TimClark> Please do
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20:53:29 <TimClark> Ok, I put CWP back in it's original location, but changed the dir name to CWP instead of ClamWinPortable and it's working fine now
20:53:42 <sar3th> i am not sure, it might be in fact caused by a path which is too long; paths can only be 255 characters long i think
20:53:52 <sar3th> that really sounds like it then
20:53:58 <TimClark> So it does seem to be a path thing
20:54:29 <TimClark> sar3th: I know that OO.o can't deal with a long path at all
20:55:10 <TimClark> John recommands nothing longer than x:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable I think
20:55:47 <sar3th> the problem occurs when applications use long paths themselves; if you put them into a longer path, like in your documents and settings\user\my docs folder, it's likely to hit windows' limit
20:56:01 <TimClark> But I don't know of any other of our apps till now with the problem
20:56:51 <TimClark> yeah, it's my "Timp\Downloaded\EmergencyStuff\ that adds a lot
20:57:27 <sar3th> yes
20:58:25 <TimClark> Well, I'm glad that it was a simple enough solution, to rename the dir to CWP, I really did not want to redo all my shortcuts to the Emergency Dir
21:00:22 <sar3th> "Win32 programs are limited to a 256-character string size limit because of the MAX_PATH variable." (taken from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177665/en-us)
21:01:07 <TimClark> I just wish CW did not have to create such LONG directory and file names for it's temp stuff
21:01:40 <gluxon> sar3th: So the issue is because ClamWin is using the MAX_PATH var?
21:01:45 <TimClark> If you read my post carefully you would have noticed that a very long stings of gibberish
21:02:01 <sar3th> TimClark: i did notice that
21:02:09 <TimClark> No gluxon , I think it's cause Windows is using it
21:02:09 <sar3th> gluxon: no, the issue is due to a windows limitation
21:02:32 <sar3th> windows will allocate 256 characters for paths
21:02:35 <sar3th> no more
21:03:15 <gluxon> sar3th: The "applies to" list doesn't list Windows 7, does that mean it's fixed?
21:03:20 <TimClark> sar3th: I would not swear that that can't be changed, but I would not bother even if it could
21:03:57 <sar3th> gluxon: i don't think so, i think the article might be outdated
21:04:18 <gluxon> Yeah, that's what I was thinking :-/
21:04:47 <gluxon> Yeah, you're right Article ID: 177665 - Last Review: October 31, 2006
21:04:52 <sar3th> TimClark: i wouldn't swear either, but i really don't think that it can be changed, at least not by the end user
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21:06:53 <TimClark> Ok, I think were done with this, at least till John replies
21:08:20 <TimClark> If he does
21:16:04 <marlop> TimClark, gluxon, sar3th, http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
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21:22:10 <sar3th> thanks marlop
21:22:50 <gluxon> Been meaning to find something like that.
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21:23:39 <yO> HI
21:24:15 <yO> Is there an administrator in there i could talk too ?
21:25:10 <TimClark> What do you need yO
21:26:03 <yO> Hi , i wanted to know if you guy @ Portable apps related to the people from Portable appz ?
21:26:16 <TimClark> Nope, not at all
21:26:25 <yO> o ok
21:27:36 <yO> sorry if my question was anoying or sounded stupid in any way
21:27:59 <TimClark> No problem, the names sound close so it's understandable
21:28:08 <yO> yeah
21:28:35 <yO> by the way i like the Luch platform you guy devloped
21:28:54 <TimClark> A lot of work went into it, thanks
21:29:43 <yO> If i could id help , but i not good with code but i'm good with graphic
21:30:31 <TimClark> I think the site has a professional graphics guy, but thanks for the offer
21:30:43 <yO> ok
21:31:05 <yO> that's the only way i could offer my help, so i mention it
21:31:27 <TimClark> Sure, thanks
21:31:44 <TimClark> I don't do much code stuff either
21:32:48 <yO> i started to learn it by myself but i did not have anybody to turn to for help so it did not go too well
21:33:22 <TimClark> I just tweak things myself, couldn't do anything from scratch
21:34:26 <yO> same here
21:34:52 <yO> Have you heard of "Rocket dock" ?
21:35:27 <TimClark> There is mention of it somewhere in the forums at our site
21:38:27 <yO> I made some skin for it and , it has some really simple code in trme
21:38:28 <TimClark> yO: several mentions actually http://portableapps.com/search/node/Rocket+dock
21:38:53 <yO> them *
21:40:27 <yO> and for the skin i made i had to write really simple one but i hade to use one as a model to see how it work first
21:41:06 <TimClark> That's how to learn
21:43:00 <yO> Have you heard of deviant aret ?
21:44:22 <yO> Deviant Art * , it's a website
21:44:27 <TimClark> sorry yO , I'm a little distracted right now
21:44:57 <yO> o , no prop men , if your busy just let me know ?
21:45:20 <TimClark> Yes, I'm dealing with trying to fix something
21:46:17 <yO> ok men was nice talking to you
21:46:29 <TimClark> You take care, all the best
21:46:40 <yO> see you around
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21:54:10 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
21:57:21 <TimClark> Welcome back MaienM
21:58:59 <MaienM> thanks TimClark
21:59:08 <MaienM> I'm not really here though, going to bed
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21:59:33 <TimClark> You been sleepin for days :P
22:00:08 <MaienM|Sleep> yeah well, I still need to grow and stuff :P
22:00:17 <TimClark> Missed the "flood" and everythin
22:00:59 <TimClark> /me will not even mention Gizmokid2005|AFK
22:01:01 <sar3th> i missed the flood as well i think
22:01:48 <TimClark> Sar3th: Check out the site, lots of releases
22:03:09 <TimClark> I guess when the mad dutchman MaienM|Sleep ] fell asleep he pulled his finger out of the dyke
22:03:30 <TimClark> And the flood began
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22:25:21 <pa_5139> any1 know how to add extensions to portable dreamweaver cs5
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22:26:31 <ODfX> any1?#
22:26:40 <TimClark> ODfX: you were rather rude the last time you were here
22:26:46 <ODfX> ?
22:27:11 <TimClark> The last time you were here you were rather rude
22:27:15 <gluxon> ODfX: You used innappropriate language.
22:27:42 <ODfX> when? if it was when i said "fuck off" i was getting stressed cuz i had been on lots of sites asking and noone was replying
22:28:23 <TimClark> That doesn't make it right, now to answer your question
22:28:35 <TimClark> As we did not make portable dreamweaver we do not know, you would need to ask the folks where you got it.
22:29:52 <TimClark> ODfX: Did you make it yourself or did you get it somewhere [if so DO NOT tell us where you got it]
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22:38:45 <TimClark> Anyway, we know nothing about that app so we can't tell you how pa_0980
22:39:01 <pa_0980> ok, sorry for causing problems
22:39:10 <TimClark> Take care
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22:43:26 <Pyromaniac> darned wifi
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23:03:51 <TimClark> Hello pa_2978 , if your connection is now stable, do you have a question, or just stopping by ?
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23:11:20 <Pyromaniac> bye bye!
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23:27:57 <TimClark> Hello ChrisMorgan , going to be around for a while ?
23:28:21 <ChrisMorgan> I plan on being here for quite a long time, yes
23:28:52 <TimClark> Then the floor is yours :D
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