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00:20:08 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I just got an email from a sub...so those seem to be working again
00:20:26 <JohnTHaller> cool. figured it was a bug in the module. i updated it.
00:20:58 <Gizmokid2005> awesome, thanks
00:21:00 <Gizmokid2005> I missed those
00:21:01 <Gizmokid2005> a lot
00:22:15 <ChrisMorgan> Really crazy. I'm going to need to maintain a separate copy of the iniparse module for Python to remove two characters - just because it uses ' = ' as its separator rather than '=' :-/
00:22:38 <Gizmokid2005> submit a patch?
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00:24:13 <ChrisMorgan> Could be worth it.
00:24:30 <Gizmokid2005> it's messy to maintain two versions of the same plugin/module
00:25:54 <ChrisMorgan> At least in this case it'd be trivial to do as it is literally removing two characters in one place. And it would remove a dependency on iniparse...
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00:46:09 <JohnTHaller> I enabled site badges in the forum and in comments as a test. Let me know what you think. Badges are: Admin, Mod, Dev in that order. Only the highest is shown.
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00:52:48 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: Signatures are also now showing on the page, not just the comments.
00:52:53 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: I must say nice touch for the dev/admin tags on the forums
00:52:56 <JohnTHaller> I'm working on that, too
00:53:03 <JohnTHaller> And user homepage now shows on forum posts
00:54:18 <JohnTHaller> maybe I should ditch those forward and back forum nav links. does anyone actually use them?
00:54:34 <ChrisMorgan> I have at times.
00:54:35 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: finally found my error log for goosystray now trying to figure it out
00:54:55 <ZachThibeau> I use them often enough
00:56:11 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I imagine you're still fiddling with the styling of those badges.
00:56:34 <JohnTHaller> I am. THey're basic now.
00:56:46 <JohnTHaller> Debating upping the user image to 32px and then centering them under it.
00:58:34 <ChrisMorgan> Just trying it, even 24px seems pretty big.
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00:59:19 <ZachThibeau_> oh for the love of pete :/
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00:59:59 <ChrisMorgan> I imagine the module you're using only uses images, not text?
01:00:14 <JohnTHaller> images only, yes
01:01:01 <JohnTHaller> I would switch it to 32px and then stack the name and date next to it.
01:01:44 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I was just trying. I reckon it distracts. But I imagine I'd get used to it.
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01:03:40 <JohnTHaller> I could try the badge inline. Where you think it'll work?
01:03:49 <JohnTHaller> after name before homepage? after homepage?
01:04:23 <ChrisMorgan> What I've just done is replacing replacing the " - " separator with <br/>, making the user badge display:inline, preferably also in the user line somewhere, .content .submitted line-height:125% or so (down from 150%) and the image 24px high.
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01:05:15 <ChrisMorgan> I was also wondering about aligning it right before but I don't think that'd work properly. Or it might if it were a slightly more button-style thing... red background, white text or something like that
01:06:44 <JohnTHaller> shift-reload to get the new stylesheet
01:08:46 <ChrisMorgan> Looks OK, except that it goes above the line, and the font looks weird - but neither of those are unexpected with images.
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01:13:32 <JohnTHaller> shift-reload it. tweaker a bit
01:15:42 <ChrisMorgan> Looks better. However, I think it'd look better with a couple of pixels more dark on top and bottom - that'd also make it 16px high
01:19:23 <JohnTHaller> alright, shift-reload again
01:26:50 <JohnTHaller> Updated again
01:27:11 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, that looks better.
01:27:31 <JohnTHaller> matched the picture size and duplicated its border. and used Verdana as with the rest of the site
01:27:43 <JohnTHaller> thinking I'll switch it to gray and rounded so it looks more like a badge later
01:28:55 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good
01:32:12 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: since i'm finding out, KVIrc should be ready to go in the next few days.
01:32:17 <JohnTHaller> cool
01:32:20 <Gizmokid2005> they're doing doc/tranlsation/etc updates right now to get it ready
01:32:30 <Gizmokid2005> so I'd imagine by the end of the week at the latest hopefully :D
01:35:20 <ChrisMorgan> And Inkscape 0.48 is due for release in a couple of weeks. I'll build and test the portable version when someone builds 0.48pre1 for Windows.
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01:58:07 <ChrisMorgan> There, filed a bug report for iniparse about ' = ' instead of '='. http://code.google.com/p/iniparse/issues/detail?id=23
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02:10:30 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... what do you reckon: is http://portableapps.com/node/12904#comment-152159 spam?
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02:14:07 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: I'd say so
02:14:14 <Gizmokid2005> at least the sig is.
02:14:54 <ChrisMorgan> What do you reckon we should do; delete post and signature but not block user due to doubt?
02:15:40 <ChrisMorgan> Nah... the email address is a pretty random yahoo.com address, doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to the fairly random username either.
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02:15:59 <jak> hello?
02:16:11 <Gizmokid2005> hello jak
02:16:12 <jak> anyone here?
02:16:20 <gluxon> jak: Need help with something?
02:16:21 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: you can see the account info, if thats true, get rid of them.
02:16:43 <jak> are you the team member of portableapp.com?
02:17:23 <Gizmokid2005> jak: what do you need? There are a few team members here
02:17:26 <Gizmokid2005> ask your question
02:17:42 <jak> My question is could I run portableapp on a computer without administrator rights ?
02:17:48 <gluxon> Yep
02:18:00 <Gizmokid2005> jak: most apps will run, so yes.
02:18:20 <jak> thx
02:18:26 <ChrisMorgan> One or two require administrative privileges - for example JkDefrag - but all the normal apps don't.
02:18:50 <jak> thx guys
02:21:04 <jak> another question, could I install ms office 2007 on portableapp?
02:21:40 <ChrisMorgan> No.
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02:22:20 <ChrisMorgan> It's a very complex app, and even if we could make it portable (which would be difficult), there would be licensing issues which would make it not possible.
02:24:00 <gluxon> jak: If you need an office suite, feel free to try an alternative, like OpenOffice. Which can read and write MS Office formats.
02:24:14 <jak> I bought an ms office 2007 dvd from ms shop, which means that I got the license, I want to install on my usb stick so I could use anywhere
02:24:37 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, but it's just not possible.
02:24:48 <Gizmokid2005> jak: the MS license doesn't allow for use of the SAME copy of office to be used on multiple computers
02:25:02 <Gizmokid2005> (though, some allow 2 installations, one on a desktop and one on a portable computer like a laptop)
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02:25:32 <jak> yes, my desktop and laptop has installed.
02:25:46 <Gizmokid2005> the license doesn't allow anything else jak
02:26:09 <jak> thanks Gizmokid2005
02:26:39 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome jak
02:26:49 <jak> btw, why your name is red?^_^
02:27:26 <Gizmokid2005> not sure jak, different IRC clients color nicks different ways
02:27:32 <jak> I see my name is in black font
02:28:18 <ChrisMorgan> jak: that's the way the freenode web client highlights channel operators, I think.
02:28:53 <ChrisMorgan> Or maybe it was when your nick is mentioned.
02:28:56 <jak> Thx all guys, your answers are so helpful for me. I am going to continue using portableapp!!
02:29:37 <ChrisMorgan> Enjoy :-)
02:30:36 <jak> one more question, I found portable running on my usb stick is not fast, how to speedup?
02:31:31 <Gizmokid2005> jak: typically the only way is to buy a faster flash drive
02:32:01 <jak> oh~~~~~~~
02:32:27 <ChrisMorgan> Though for some you can apply some optimisations - e.g. http://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#performance for Firefox
02:32:43 <jak> any one try to play P vs Z on portableapp?
02:33:09 <ChrisMorgan> Search the forums. You'll find something about it.
02:34:01 <jak> I want to know is it possbile to play the game on my usb stick so that I could continue my achive when I switch laptop to desktop or other computers
02:34:38 <ChrisMorgan> Search the forums.
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03:05:27 <jak> Hi All
03:06:07 <jak> could I install itunes on portableapp?
03:08:15 <jak> anyones?
03:09:33 <Gizmokid2005> no
03:09:40 <Gizmokid2005> iTunes can't be made portable
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03:12:32 <pa_9105> help
03:12:32 <GizmoBot> pa_9105: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
03:13:25 <pa_9105> how can i install a portable application in my pen drive
03:16:07 <pa_9105> hello mr <+GizmoBot> can you just help me with my portable application installation
03:19:08 <jak> any questions?
03:19:18 <jak> which app do you want to install?
03:20:12 <pa_9105> google chrome
03:21:06 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9105: just run the installer to your drive
03:21:10 <Gizmokid2005> there's nothing special to it.
03:22:12 <pa_9105> sorry in which drive i have to install it ......
03:23:16 <Gizmokid2005> your flash drive?
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03:23:28 <Gizmokid2005> whichever one you want to use it from...but if you want to use it from your flash drive, install it to that drive
03:24:10 <pa_9105> thanks sir
03:24:47 <pa_9105> but if i want to install the portable suite what should i do for that
03:27:48 <Gizmokid2005> same thing
03:28:01 <Gizmokid2005> you just install the suite/platform to the root of your flash drive
03:28:16 <Gizmokid2005> once you do that, the apps will find where it is and install it for you
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03:36:09 <pa_2618> hello
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03:36:45 <pa_2618> any one help?
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03:37:52 <pa_2618> i want to know how do you make an app that is not portable ?
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03:43:58 <pa_2618> any one help?
03:44:40 <JohnTHaller> you want to make an app portable?
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03:46:55 <pa_5597> help
03:46:55 <GizmoBot> pa_5597: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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03:48:08 <pa_5597> how can i install a portable suite into my flash drive of 2gb
03:48:32 <JohnTHaller> 1. download the installer to your computer, usually to your desktop folder
03:49:00 <JohnTHaller> 2. Run the installer and when it asks to install, select X:\ (with X being the letter your flash drive is given by Windows)
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03:49:41 <pa_5597> thanks
03:50:17 <JohnTHaller> You can install more apps the same way, too. Except once the platform is installed, the app installer will automatically detect it when your drive is plugged in :-)
03:57:18 <pa_5597> i'm a new user so which application installation will be helpful to me.................
03:58:09 <JohnTHaller> Any app. All of our app installers work exactly the same way. You can even click Options - Install a New App once you have the platform up and running and select the app installer and it will run it all automatically for you.
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04:06:22 <pa_5597> how can i uninstall it later?
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04:09:45 <ChrisMorgan> pa_5597: just delete the folder - or in the Platform, there's an option to uninstall.
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04:15:09 <pa_5597> after installing the suit e how can i install the platform
04:15:27 <JohnTHaller> the platform is included in the suite
04:16:18 <pa_5597> thanks
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05:31:47 <Gringoloco> Could anyone tell me what this means for portability http://portableapps.com/node/21211#comment-151431
05:32:44 <OliverK> i *think* he means that he needs the visual C++ redistributables
05:32:52 <OliverK> aren't those included?
05:33:51 <ChrisMorgan> You should be able to put MSVCR80.dll (or is 2008 90?) next to the app and if it's got a proper manifest it will work. If it doesn't it gets really messy.
05:33:55 <Gringoloco> This is included Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest
05:33:55 <Gringoloco> msvcr90.dll
05:34:20 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, that's it. And that's in App\WinAmp?
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05:34:41 <Gringoloco> \App\Winamp\Microsoft.VC90.CRT\
05:34:42 <ChrisMorgan> Then it should be working perfectly without requiring MSVCR90 to be installed anywhere else.
05:35:12 <Gringoloco> So it should be fine, but i wonder why that user had a problem with it
05:35:43 <ChrisMorgan> It's remotely possible that WinAmp doesn't add that directory to the path itself... to be safe you could try putting that directory in the PATH.
05:35:55 <ChrisMorgan> Let me see if I've not got msvcr90 on my 2003 VM anywhere...
05:37:28 <ChrisMorgan> Working in Windows is so horrible compared to Linux... :-)
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05:39:05 <GozuMezu> Shalom all..
05:39:18 <OliverK> shalom
05:39:28 <GozuMezu> I'm in need of a little bit of tech support... :-)
05:39:49 <GozuMezu> It's probably a very common problem, but I can't seem to find a solution anywhere...
05:40:08 <OliverK> okay . . .
05:40:20 <GozuMezu> Anyone know how to get autorun working on Windows 7 Starter?
05:40:27 <OliverK> doesn't
05:40:37 <GozuMezu> There's no way at all?
05:40:47 <OliverK> microsoft disable the automatic autorun due to security concerns
05:40:53 <OliverK> there's none that I know of
05:41:00 <GozuMezu> No way to re-enable it? :-/
05:41:06 <GozuMezu> That really stinks
05:41:08 <OliverK> nope
05:41:09 <ChrisMorgan> No, 'fraid not.
05:41:19 <OliverK> meh, its a trade off
05:41:29 <ChrisMorgan> There is, however, a utility which you can use for autorunning the PortableApps.com Platform:
05:41:37 <ChrisMorgan> .g portableapps.com autorun autoplay test
05:41:38 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/13770
05:41:40 <ChrisMorgan> .title
05:41:43 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: PortableApps.com AutoRun/AutoPlay Test 0.1 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
05:41:53 <GozuMezu> I suppose it is a trade off, but I like to feel just a tiny bit more in control..
05:42:01 <OliverK> i'd rather be prompted every time. That way sony can't install a rootkit without my knowledge ;)
05:42:01 <GozuMezu> I'll check it out, thanks!
05:42:24 <ChrisMorgan> That can be installed on a machine and then it'll start it whenever you put your disk in without the prompt at all.
05:42:41 <GozuMezu> Yah, true... but I've only so many devices I plug in, and I'm confident that they're safe... so...
05:42:47 <GozuMezu> Well thanks a lot guys!
05:43:14 <GozuMezu> Cheers from Belgium!
05:45:31 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco: sorry, Winamp doesn't seem to run in Server 2003 at all, by default or if I add App\Winamp\Microsoft.VC90.CRT to the path, so I can't help you sort out whether anything more needs doing with MSVCR90.
05:46:10 <ChrisMorgan> Command Prompt... blech. Give me bash in gnome-terminal any day :D
05:46:28 <OliverK> bleh
05:46:30 <Gringoloco> thanx anyway, I understand a bit more now
05:46:42 <OliverK> give me windows over something that could harm my computer anyday
05:47:06 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: your statement seems to have a major logical flaw in it and I couldn't understand it :P
05:47:12 <OliverK> lol
05:47:25 <OliverK> that you havne't met a toshiba computer with the insydeh20 bios
05:47:28 <OliverK> fan doesn't come on
05:47:33 <OliverK> until it gets toasty
05:47:40 <OliverK> that can harm my computer
05:47:45 <OliverK> :D
05:49:05 <Gringoloco> that reminds me, my laptop seems to have areal issue with the hot weather here in Bulgaria
05:49:21 <OliverK> ouch
05:49:25 <OliverK> cooling pad?
05:49:31 <Gringoloco> it just shuts it self down
05:49:37 <OliverK> OUCH!
05:49:44 <OliverK> try a cooling pad, you are over heating!
05:49:57 <Gringoloco> but only when i make it work to much
05:50:05 <OliverK> yeah
05:50:10 <OliverK> like a game or something?
05:50:16 <Gringoloco> whats a cooloing pad?
05:50:23 <OliverK> you're making the processor work more which generates more heat
05:50:34 <OliverK> a cooling pad is basically like a box fan for a laptop
05:51:00 <Gringoloco> nah, just playing a movie, odd enough vlc hardly uses the processor
05:51:05 <OliverK> something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834999336
05:51:19 <OliverK> wow, that's weird . . . .
05:51:41 <OliverK> aw man, I missed the summer solstice program listening to trance dane music :(
05:51:43 <Gringoloco> so it must be the video card, which doesn't get any direct cooling
05:51:54 <OliverK> probably, makes sense
05:52:17 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: i have ubuntu server and freenas running on a old windows 98 machine Lp
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05:52:25 <OliverK> try a cooling pad . . .
05:53:06 <Gringoloco> i'll have look at it
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06:57:09 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: Just one more question...
06:57:42 <ChrisMorgan> Sure, but I'm just going for half an hour or so.
06:57:51 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry
06:58:45 <Gringoloco> What would be preferable, having Winamp accessing it's settings directly from the usb, what slows it down, especially when exiting
06:59:30 <Gringoloco> or to have Winamp access it's settings from appdata, what means backup, copy and visa versa
06:59:52 <Gringoloco> the last is much faster
07:01:03 <Gringoloco> Ok, I'll be back in half hour as-well
07:20:04 <jak> i want to know how do you make an app portable that is not portable on the official website?
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07:24:32 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: I have to go out my self for an hour or so, but i'll stay online
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07:48:33 <jolowed> hi
07:49:19 <ChrisMorgan> jak: take a look at http://portableapps.com/development for starters
07:49:30 <ChrisMorgan> jolowed: hello, do you need help with anything?
07:50:25 <jolowed> not now, thank you!
08:17:05 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: are you there?
08:17:10 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
08:17:28 <Gringoloco> So what you think is preferable?
08:17:43 <ChrisMorgan> If you reckon it's consistently faster moving it back and forth, go with that. It doesn't really tend to matter.
08:17:51 <ChrisMorgan> Are you switching it to PAL?
08:18:19 <Gringoloco> Thinking about it, but it's a really complicated one to do with PAL
08:18:36 <Gringoloco> Will need lots of customcode
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09:15:44 <pa_6860> how to install
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15:23:26 <Stratford> peace
15:23:56 <Stratford> anyone know if vlc portable can play audio cd
15:23:59 <Stratford> ?
15:24:41 <Stratford> the cool player won't play either
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15:25:32 <Stratford> anyone
15:25:44 <Stratford> gizmo?
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15:27:06 <Stratford> anyone?
15:27:44 <Stratford> help
15:27:44 <GizmoBot> Stratford: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:28:04 <Stratford> simple ?
15:28:23 <Stratford> neither cool player nor vlc play my audio cd
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15:28:43 <Bensawsome> Stratford what kinda audio cd is it?
15:28:51 <Bensawsome> what program did u use to make it?
15:28:54 <Stratford> i don't have media player installed and neither do i want to
15:29:11 <Stratford> pre-recorded
15:29:15 <Stratford> cda files
15:29:24 <Bensawsome> its just a normal thing that you bought at a store?
15:29:41 <Bensawsome> also is it scratched?
15:29:48 <Stratford> no
15:29:50 <Bensawsome> cause if its scratched it aint gonna work on anything
15:29:58 <Stratford> it plays in media player
15:30:03 <Bensawsome> well i dont really know much about either of those.
15:30:06 <Stratford> but i don't want to install that
15:30:19 <Bensawsome> but you might wanna consult vlc's and cmp's support people
15:30:32 <Bensawsome> we just make the apps portable... we dont make the actual apps
15:30:47 <Stratford> i thought vlc plays anything
15:30:57 <Stratford> ok
15:31:16 <Stratford> i don't think i ever had a problem in the past..
15:31:28 <Stratford> but i've always had the full version
15:31:53 <Stratford> my current installation is on a 13gig hd
15:32:00 <Bensawsome> full version of what?
15:32:05 <Stratford> hence the space is limited
15:32:06 <Bensawsome> vlc/cool media player?
15:32:15 <Stratford> vlc
15:32:22 <Bensawsome> vlc only has 1 version...
15:32:40 <Stratford> vlc portable v/s full version
15:32:46 <Bensawsome> oh
15:32:51 <Stratford> ah
15:33:04 <Bensawsome> well portable is the same as the non portable its just....portable xD
15:33:15 <Stratford> i have everything portable now 'cause of space
15:33:41 <Stratford> there's a big diff in the file size
15:33:44 <Bensawsome> yep
15:33:53 <Bensawsome> thats cause all our apps are compressed
15:34:00 <Stratford> so i was wondering if the scope is limited
15:34:06 <Bensawsome> nope
15:34:31 <Bensawsome> its full version but the porgram files are just compressed (kinda like a zip file)
15:34:35 <Stratford> neeways
15:34:42 <Stratford> can't play audio cds
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15:35:34 <Stratford> i have porta... ver.. of coolplayer and vlc
15:35:44 <Stratford> dosn't play in either
15:36:10 <Stratford> audacity wants to rip it first
15:36:24 <Stratford> to wav or some other b4 it plays
15:36:32 <Stratford> don't want to rip
15:36:54 <Stratford> don't want to install the win media player
15:37:11 <Stratford> too huge
15:37:50 <Stratford> does anyone have a audio cd and try to play in portable vlc and see
15:38:02 <Stratford> *cda files
15:39:31 <Stratford> ZachThibeau? any thoughts
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16:26:24 <Pyromaniac_> anyone know what program john uses to compile delphi?
16:26:52 <sar3th> Delphi 2006
16:26:59 <sar3th> in case you mean the plattform
16:27:18 <Pyromaniac_> yeah
16:27:23 <Pyromaniac_> I want to learn the language
16:27:47 <Pyromaniac_> I googled delphi compiler and so much came up
16:28:52 <sar3th> if you do not want to spend money, you should give lazarus w/ freepascal a try
16:29:44 <Pyromaniac_> i read some time ago that someone got a free version and tried to compile the menu adn they got erros or something
16:30:04 <Pyromaniac_> so, I'm going to try to find an "unlimited trial"
16:31:26 <sar3th> can we take this convo to -ot or -dev?
16:36:47 <Pyromaniac_> these wineyes are too big
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16:44:48 <Stratford> if i dl multiple apps can i package and install them all in one go or is it advisable to install it one by one?
16:46:30 <sar3th> Stratford: what do you mean with package and install them all in one?
16:46:46 <sar3th> you download the setup-files for each app and run them
16:46:49 <sar3th> that's all
16:47:03 <Stratford> i mean is there a way to install them all at once
16:47:08 <Stratford> ok
16:47:14 <Stratford> thanks..
16:47:23 <Stratford> that's waht i've been doing
16:47:32 <Stratford> just wanted to save some steps
16:47:34 <Stratford> also..
16:47:42 <sar3th> Stratford: other than using one of the suites, i don't think there is a way to do what you want
16:48:04 <Stratford> when a new version is available do i HAVE to uninstall the previous ver
16:49:31 <sar3th> no, but it is advisable to create a backup prior to installing the new version
16:49:39 <Stratford> here's my limitation..
16:49:44 <Stratford> i have a 13 gig hd
16:49:51 <Stratford> and no partition
16:49:54 <Stratford> xp
16:50:06 <Stratford> stripped down to bare min
16:50:11 <Stratford> and all portable apps
16:50:22 <Stratford> when a new ver of apps is available
16:50:33 <Stratford> i have to uninstall the prev vers
16:50:47 <Stratford> this creates a lot of gap on the hd
16:50:57 <Stratford> which i have to consistantly defrag
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16:51:06 <Stratford> not good for the hd i presume
16:51:55 <Gizmokid2005> Stratford: in all honesty, a 13GB drive is very small and presumably very old...so just using it is quite a bit of wear on it.
16:52:37 <Stratford> hmm.. not really
16:52:42 <Stratford> it's IBM
16:52:51 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't matter, it's still electrical components
16:52:56 <Stratford> went to all kinds of performance test
16:52:59 <Stratford> doing great
16:53:04 <Gizmokid2005> they all have a MTBF
16:53:05 <Stratford> had not been used much
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16:53:37 <GizmoBot> vatts is from Portableapps.com forums, likes linux much more than anyone else on planet Earth, has no site yet and has 4gbs of portableapps software. he programs now from 128mb USB key which has PythonPortable 2.6 installed.
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16:53:42 <vatts> wtf.
16:53:46 <Stratford> i have done low level format.. and reconditioned it b4 installing xp pro
16:53:51 <vatts> Gizmokid2005, gizmobot = fail
16:53:59 <Gizmokid2005> vatts: yeah, not sure what happened there.
16:54:10 <vatts> btw, why does openVPN portable fail (connection reset by peer), but installable openVPN doesn't? :p
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16:54:19 <vatts> i'm kinda 2lame to write it 2 forums
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16:54:41 <vatts> GizmoBot, vatts is openvp
16:54:42 <vatts> GizmoBot, vatts is openvpn
16:54:42 <Gizmokid2005> vatts: is openVPN in beta testing somewhere?
16:54:43 <vatts> hmm.
16:54:57 <vatts> Gizmokid2005, dont know, i have lastest "stable" downloaded
16:55:06 <vatts> but it gives errors which i dont get on using non-portable.
16:55:30 <Gizmokid2005> well, chances are, it's a driver issue
16:55:37 <Gizmokid2005> most VPN clients require drivers to be installed
16:55:47 <Gizmokid2005> so a "portable" one probably won't work if it's drivers aren't there
16:55:57 <vatts> same driver
16:56:04 <Gizmokid2005> but i'm not aware of any OpenVPN tests or releases on PA.c
16:56:32 <vatts> it uses installed. and if it already doesn't use installed, it installs one (and those work, tested with installing, quitting without uninstall, using vpn with non-port. version)
16:57:22 <vatts> i dl'd 1.6.6
16:57:24 <Gizmokid2005> like I said, I'm not aware of it anywhere on PA.c
16:57:31 <Gizmokid2005> if it's not, you need to talk to the OpenVPN guys
16:57:32 <vatts> ugh. $hit
16:57:58 <Gizmokid2005> I'm still willing to bet it has to do with a driver
16:58:06 <Gizmokid2005> I'd put money on it.
16:59:37 <vatts> i used installable version, closed it, used portable. it doesn't connect. i'd put money on portable version as fail version :)
16:59:41 <vatts> no offence plz :P
17:00:52 <Gizmokid2005> like I said vatts, I'm not aware of /ANY/ portable version done by anyone at PA.c
17:01:27 <vatts> Gizmokid2005, no need to shout. i was just sharing my opinion
17:01:34 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not shouting
17:01:37 <Gizmokid2005> just placing emphasis
17:01:47 <vatts> ah. oke :P
17:01:53 <Gizmokid2005> .pa OpenVPN
17:02:20 <Gizmokid2005> .pa OpenVPN
17:02:21 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: OpenVPN Portable (Testers Needed): http://portableapps.com/node/7216
17:03:38 <vatts> bah. someone messed around.^ and it works now.
17:03:40 <vatts> :p
17:03:57 <vatts> looks like netadmin gave me new keys with same name. i thought its copypaste. works as new now :P
17:04:01 <Gizmokid2005> no vatts, that's an ANCIENT thread
17:04:14 <Gizmokid2005> and the one I found on SF.net isn't an official release by us, I'm not even sure /who/ that is.
17:04:20 <vatts> Gizmokid2005, yes i know
17:04:21 <vatts> but
17:04:21 <vatts> BUT
17:04:33 <vatts> <vatts> btw, why does openVPN portable fail (connection reset by peer), but installable openVPN doesn't? :p
17:04:37 <vatts> <vatts> looks like netadmin gave me new keys with same name. i thought its copypaste. works as new now :P
17:04:39 <vatts> ^
17:04:48 <vatts> fixed. thx for pation and reading those noob lines :P
17:04:49 <vatts> bb
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22:59:37 <pa_7015> How much does it cost to customize the portable apps downloads used by a company?
22:59:51 <pa_7015> Does anyone know
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