IRC Log from 2010-06-27
00:08:36 <clintoy> elow
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00:16:24 <gluxon> clintoy: Hello, need help with anything?
00:16:33 <clintoy> kinda
00:16:48 <clintoy> im using chris' app launcher
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00:17:19 <clintoy> this app im working on uses files from users\documents\app
00:18:39 <clintoy> how can i copy defaultdata to users\documents\app?
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00:26:39 <gluxon> clintoy: Sorry, I'm not sure, since I've never actually used Chris's Launcher. Try starting a forum topic.
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00:35:16 <Pyromaniac_> .
00:36:22 <Pyromaniac_> TimClark: can you delete one of these double posts
00:36:47 <TimClark> Already done
00:37:10 <Pyromaniac_> I can't get the link because the wifi is messed up, but i think its the first one in recent posts page
00:37:27 <TimClark> It was, as I said, already done
00:37:44 <Pyromaniac_> TimClark: http://portableapps.com/node/23805
00:38:02 <Pyromaniac_> thanks
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02:38:58 <clintoy> help
02:38:58 <GizmoBot> clintoy: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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02:56:28 <OliverK> Helloo!
03:01:37 <clintoy> hey
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10:42:55 <pa_7834> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/24054
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17:20:17 <stratford> hello
17:20:52 <stratford> has the vlc fp resolved yet?
17:21:38 <stratford> giz
17:22:04 <stratford> GizmoBot:: is the older version of vlc available
17:23:06 <stratford> Gizmokid2005:.. you there?
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21:59:21 <stratford> hello
21:59:32 <Pyromaniac> hey!
21:59:39 <Pyromaniac> how ya doin today?
21:59:45 <stratford> Pyromaniac: hey
21:59:55 <stratford> good .. and you?
21:59:59 <Pyromaniac> great!
22:00:04 <stratford> cool
22:00:31 <stratford> i was here moaning about vlc 1.1
22:00:44 <stratford> i downloaded it 2 times
22:01:19 <stratford> avira even detected the exe as trojan
22:01:31 <stratford> apart from the 4 other plugins
22:01:40 <stratford> i know it's FP
22:01:43 <Pyromaniac> from this site?
22:02:02 <stratford> but i uninstalled it and got the full version and installed it and no trojans
22:02:34 <stratford> but i uninstalled that too
22:02:57 <stratford> since it was giving me errors when i asked to check for updates
22:03:09 <stratford> yes. the PA version of 1.1
22:04:15 <stratford> by the way if anyone is looking for the older versions.. the archives are available on vlc site
22:04:33 <stratford> all of them
22:05:10 <stratford> however i uninstalled the 1.1 full version and reinstalled the 1.03
22:06:04 <stratford> just because none of my favorite shoutcast radios were available in 1.1
22:06:20 <Pyromaniac> ah
22:07:14 <stratford> but i hear that the 1.1 has resolved many security issues that were in the previous versions
22:07:18 <stratford> even 1.03
22:08:01 <stratford> btw.. have you ever seen any video channels in vlc
22:08:08 <Pyromaniac> yep
22:08:11 <stratford> non of them work for me
22:08:18 <stratford> *none
22:08:39 <Pyromaniac> I got my version way back, though, I haven't had a chance to update
22:08:59 <Pyromaniac> I can't recall which version it was
22:09:04 <stratford> oh
22:09:06 <stratford> :)
22:09:32 <stratford> i guess they must have stopped those long ago.. since mine never worked
22:11:46 <stratford> my infra recorder doesen't work either
22:12:27 <stratford> i had dld the standard suite version
22:12:33 <stratford> i still have that
22:12:41 <stratford> have you ever used infra..
22:12:51 <Pyromaniac> I never used infra recorder, sorry
22:13:39 <stratford> so i guess the suite doesen't contain all the latest apps?
22:13:50 <stratford> since vlc 1.03 is in there
22:14:17 <stratford> after 1.03, 1.05 and 1.06 were out as well
22:14:50 <Pyromaniac> yeah, John is planning to update those soon
22:15:52 <stratford> he's pretty quick to get all the PA latest apps.. that's great
22:16:04 <stratford> wondering how often the suite gets updated
22:16:45 <Pyromaniac> usually when a new version of the platform comes out
22:17:17 <Pyromaniac> hopefully 2.0 will come out soon
22:18:03 <stratford> oh..
22:18:19 <stratford> so the suite never gets updated in between?
22:18:30 <Pyromaniac> well, I can't say for sure...
22:18:52 <Pyromaniac> I can't remember off the top of my head
22:19:53 <stratford> no worries.. just wondering
22:22:17 <stratford> you know if imgburn PA is available?
22:25:37 <Pyromaniac> http://portableapps.com/node/21615
22:25:41 <TimClark> stratford: did you report the VLCP files to your AV provider ?
22:27:44 <TimClark> Other than assure you that it is a FP situation there is really nothing we can do until someone uploads the files to them so they can review them
22:28:08 <TimClark> That goes for the other AV providers as well
22:29:02 <TimClark> Kaspersky has already fixed their FP
22:29:35 <TimClark> They would NOT do that if it was a real virus
22:30:01 <stratford> TimClark: i tried but i have 2 issues
22:30:34 <stratford> when i tried to upload the individual plugins both the sites reported that the files are empty
22:30:52 <stratford> even though they are 17-20kb
22:31:05 <TimClark> stratford: what do you mean "both" the sites
22:31:16 <stratford> the entire exe wouldn't load because it is over the limit
22:31:30 <stratford> Gizmokid2005: knows about this
22:31:41 <TimClark> You need to upload them to YOUR AV vendor, which I think was Avria or something like that
22:31:42 <stratford> virus total and jotti
22:32:00 <TimClark> Yes, he does, he just told Avira to ignore those files
22:32:09 <stratford> hmm
22:32:35 <stratford> the plugins i could have deleted.. but the exe was too dangerous
22:32:38 <stratford> lol
22:32:46 <TimClark> They have already been uploaded to Jotti and VT several times, now they need to be reported to the Vendors
22:33:10 <stratford> anyways when i installed the full version all those plugins were there and were not detected
22:33:57 <TimClark> That is because they were not compressed in the full version, ours are compressed and that is probably what is causing the FP
22:34:01 <stratford> i would have done that but i just din't have the time yesterday and since then i have uninstalled 1.1 and reinstalled 1.03
22:34:25 <stratford> i'm sure you are correct
22:34:41 <TimClark> Anyway, at this point there is nothing we can do except wait for the AV vendors to catch up
22:35:04 <stratford> i had another reason for uninstalling since none of my favourite shoutcast radios showed up in 1.1
22:35:22 <stratford> no worries..
22:35:39 <stratford> i was just here yesterday talking about it
22:35:44 <stratford> no worries
22:36:00 <stratford> 1.03 has all the stations so i reinstalled it
22:36:11 <stratford> i got it from the vlc archive
22:36:44 <stratford> i see in the forum someone wanted to know how to get the older version and they were talking about sourceforge..
22:36:51 <stratford> but vlc has all the archives
22:37:12 <TimClark> Yes, stratford , but they want the PORTABLE older version
22:37:36 <TimClark> Which is available on sorceforge as well, btw
22:37:48 <stratford> ah.. i c
22:37:59 <TimClark> Under OUR project, not VLCs
22:38:05 <stratford> i get it
22:38:37 <stratford> TimClark: .. I have a ?
22:38:43 <TimClark> stratford: a submission has now been made to Avria as well
22:38:57 <stratford> great
22:39:10 <stratford> about the shoutcast list
22:39:33 <stratford> are they in the libshout.dll?
22:39:38 <TimClark> stratford: I know NOTHING about the workings of that app, so I can't help you
22:39:44 <stratford> oh
22:39:47 <stratford> never mind
22:40:01 <TimClark> I only use it to play video files, I do nothing online
22:40:31 <stratford> i do too.. but i play the radio in the background
22:40:33 <stratford> lol
22:41:01 <TimClark> So, I guess I do know "something" about the app, but not networing stuff, I do not allow apps to contact the web unless they HAVE TO
22:41:09 <stratford> vlc i great.. it plays everything
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22:42:22 <awircser> Not everything .. BsPlayer does.
22:43:05 <TimClark> stratford: have you posted in the Forums about not being able to play your stations in the new version ?
22:43:10 <stratford> almost everything.. hahaha
22:43:20 <TimClark> Lets stay on topic guys
22:43:27 <stratford> gosh.. no
22:43:49 <TimClark> Well, if you don't report it, how will John know ?
22:43:50 <stratford> i din't mean i can't play the stations..
22:44:10 <stratford> i was saying none of my favorite stations are in the 1.1
22:44:27 <stratford> just lazy..
22:44:33 <TimClark> Can you add stations ?
22:44:55 <stratford> well that's why i was asking if the list is in the dll file
22:45:03 <stratford> coz i can't find it anywhere
22:45:12 <TimClark> Oh, I really doubt it, dll don't work that way
22:45:15 <stratford> unless the code is ripped
22:45:47 <TimClark> You should post about not being able to find your "list" perhaps someone can tell you where it is
22:46:05 <stratford> are you currently using 1.1
22:46:12 <stratford> TimClark:
22:46:40 <stratford> TimClark: .. the list is there
22:46:41 <stratford> but
22:46:57 <TimClark> Anyway, John's latest post says you can take the files in question from the full and put them in the portable and it will work fine till Avria gets set
22:46:59 <stratford> the list is revised
22:47:55 <stratford> i thought of doing that but since i'm not using 1.1.. then i guess that point is mute
22:48:08 <stratford> moot
22:48:10 <stratford> lol
22:48:19 <TimClark> I'm still using 1.0.5
22:48:32 <stratford> ok... let me ask you something then
22:48:45 <stratford> could you go to the shout cast radio
22:48:50 <TimClark> nope
22:49:07 <stratford> lol
22:49:13 <stratford> you don't have to play anything
22:49:14 <TimClark> I do NOT allow apps to contact the net unless they HAVE TO
22:49:19 <stratford> just wanted to check on the list
22:49:55 <TimClark> Sorry, that's not my thing, only FFP, TBP, and CWP are allowed to access the net
22:49:57 <stratford> they won't contact the web unless you actually allow it to
22:50:25 <stratford> explain please
22:50:36 <stratford> the acros..
22:50:51 <stratford> waht kind of programs?
22:51:21 <stratford> anyway viewing the list won't contact the stream
22:51:47 <TimClark> 1. Firefox, 2. Thuderbird , 3 ClamWin
22:51:54 <stratford> ah
22:51:58 <TimClark> How do I access the shout cast list ?
22:52:15 <stratford> ok.. here it is
22:52:43 <TimClark> VLCP is now running, tell me what to do, in compleate sentences and in one paragraph if you can
22:52:43 <stratford> media>service directory>shoutcast listings
22:53:58 <stratford> then go to view playlist and you'll see the shoutcast radio and if you click on it once you will see the listing. don't double click any of the listings
22:54:45 <TimClark> I see it
22:54:57 <stratford> ok.. do you see the "News"
22:55:40 <TimClark> 2 NEWSs
22:55:57 <stratford> Bollywood
22:56:24 <TimClark> yes, but please remember , i am using a really old version
22:56:37 <stratford> i know
22:56:51 <stratford> Hindi radio
22:57:01 <stratford> internationl radio
22:57:02 <stratford> etc
22:57:18 <stratford> if you do .. then you will know what i mean
22:57:27 <stratford> the 1.1 doesn't have any of these
22:57:32 <TimClark> yup, yup, I am sure I have all the defaults
22:57:56 <TimClark> Are you saying YOU don't have these ?
22:57:58 <stratford> well the default list has been drastically reduced in 1.1
22:58:11 <stratford> the 1.1 does not
22:58:21 <stratford> the 1.0x versions have them
22:58:29 <TimClark> Ah, if that is the case it has to do with the app itself, not the PA.c version
22:58:38 <stratford> i know
22:58:49 <TimClark> You would need to contact VLC about that
22:58:50 <stratford> i was just stating why i'm not installing the 1.1
22:59:05 <stratford> even though it is more secure the the older verions
22:59:17 <TimClark> Ok, then it's not a PA.c problem, I think we are done here
22:59:42 <stratford> i wasn't implying it is the PA prob
22:59:43 <stratford> lol
23:00:09 <TimClark> stratford: I'm kind of busy right now, if it's not PA.c related, I really need to be doing other things
23:00:39 <stratford> the other prob i have with the 1.1 is that avira caught the PAvlc .. exe as a trojan as well
23:00:48 <stratford> so i just gave up on it
23:01:12 <stratford> TimClark: don't let me keep you .. please
23:01:20 <stratford> i just thought you wanted to chat
23:01:21 <stratford> :)
23:01:22 <stratford> lol
23:01:36 <TimClark> Nope, too busy to just chat, work, work work
23:01:56 <stratford> ok.. i hve noe other pa ?
23:02:02 <stratford> about the infrarecorder
23:02:06 <Pyromaniac> I'm here
23:02:19 <Pyromaniac> not on infrarcorder
23:02:24 <TimClark> Pyromaniac: do you know about infrarecorder ?
23:02:40 <Pyromaniac> no, I pressed enter before reading that
23:02:51 <stratford> i still have the version that came with the pa suite
23:03:31 <stratford> it lauches fine
23:03:45 <stratford> then when i go to copy a disc.. it reads it fine
23:03:50 <stratford> then hangs
23:03:59 <stratford> the "OK" button is not enables
23:04:03 <stratford> *d
23:04:04 <Pyromaniac> that might be a probblem with the app itself
23:04:11 <stratford> huh
23:04:25 <TimClark> Have you checked the forum to see if anyone else has reported it stratford ?
23:04:33 <TimClark> Pyromaniac: step back please
23:04:36 <stratford> and the ok button is not enable in other places
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23:05:36 <stratford> TimClark: .. no
23:05:48 <stratford> just not enough time to read so many things
23:06:10 <TimClark> Please check, if no one has reported it you should report it
23:06:36 <TimClark> Have you tried running the NON portable version to see if it has the same problem ?
23:06:55 <TimClark> I understand if you don't want to do that, I would not want to either
23:07:03 <TimClark> But someone may ask
23:07:26 <stratford> not yet
23:07:31 <stratford> i have a 13gig hd
23:07:44 <stratford> and only 4 gigs free
23:08:01 <stratford> i have xp stripped to nothing and then have all PA
23:08:10 <TimClark> You don't need to give a reason why you don't want to, you don't want to, that's fine
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23:08:54 <stratford> k
23:09:05 <TimClark> I don't install full versions of things just to test them, not wanting to is perfectly understandable, it defeats using the portable version :P
23:09:19 <stratford> i may .. like i did with vlc
23:09:36 <stratford> i know
23:09:57 <TimClark> If you want to that's fine, I'm just saying someone may ask / will ask, if you tried that
23:10:09 <stratford> PA has everythign .. so why go elsewhere
23:10:10 <stratford> lol
23:10:24 <stratford> i may
23:10:42 <stratford> after my tonights defrag
23:10:44 <stratford> :)
23:10:56 <TimClark> Defraging is good, I do it every day
23:11:11 <stratford> i have to keep doing taht after updating with all the latest apps
23:11:50 <stratford> yep
23:12:14 <stratford> ok another ?
23:12:40 <stratford> i have PA on my hd
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23:13:18 <stratford> the launcher has 2 buttons "x" and the other one is "eject" i presume?
23:13:28 <TimClark> yes
23:13:39 <stratford> ah ok
23:13:51 <TimClark> I would never use it myself
23:13:56 <stratford> i guess that is useful when oyou have PA on a stick?
23:14:17 <stratford> i mean a usb stick
23:14:23 <TimClark> I would rather exit the PAM and then do the eject from windows when it's done, but that's just me
23:14:43 <TimClark> Yes stratford , doesn't do much good on a hard drive
23:15:09 <stratford> PAM?
23:15:17 <stratford> 'PA manager?
23:15:24 <TimClark> Portable Apps Menu
23:16:04 <stratford> just right click on the tray icon and exit?
23:16:38 <TimClark> If I recall correctly, yes, I have not used the menu in a while
23:17:02 <stratford> so how do you use PA
23:17:36 <TimClark> I use the individual apps
23:18:21 <TimClark> On my hard drive as well, like you
23:19:16 <stratford> ok
23:20:37 <stratford> what's the latest on the 2.0?
23:20:55 <stratford> is there a suite plan for that ?
23:21:25 <stratford> the current suite is very outdated
23:21:33 <TimClark> In the works, will be done when it's done, know one knows when
23:22:20 <TimClark> The suite usually only updates when the Platform/Menu updates, otherwise we would be updating it all the time, takes way too much time
23:23:00 <stratford> true
23:23:33 <stratford> i was actually more concerned about the apps within the suite
23:24:12 <stratford> next time i'll just take the bare bones and add my apps
23:28:28 <stratford> TimClark: thanks
23:28:31 <stratford> later
23:28:38 <TimClark> Take care stratford
23:28:51 <stratford> u2
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