IRC Log from 2010-07-03
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00:06:19 <pyromaniac> Gizmokid2005: This is pyromaniac via telephone through a friend, my neighbor's locked their wifi
00:06:49 <pyromaniac> Gizmokid2005: Can u send me that link that u sent me last time?
00:13:45 <pyromaniac> nevermind, I found it on the telephone. Thanks anyway! Bye!
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01:48:09 <pa_6230> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/24121
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02:12:07 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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02:16:54 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
02:17:01 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau
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02:17:20 <ZachThibeau> just tried my pchat build via wine and oh my land it looks native lol
02:17:24 <ZachThibeau> http://i48.tinypic.com/259foxs.png PChat win32 buld running in xubuntu via wine on my brother in laws netbook
02:18:03 <ZachThibeau> I am really impressed with wine's progress
02:18:20 <ChrisMorgan> Wine is pretty good
02:18:29 <Gizmokid2005> Can I get someone to verify something in KVIrc POrtable for me?
02:22:21 <Gizmokid2005> can you install KVIrc Portable to a fresh directory and launch it and tell me if the KVIrc setup wizard shows up?
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02:24:27 <ChrisMorgan> Wine OK?
02:24:56 <ZachThibeau> howdy rmccue
02:25:19 <Bensawsome> wow rmccue is here
02:25:20 <Bensawsome> lol
02:25:22 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: yeah, should be
02:25:24 <Gizmokid2005> hello rmccue
02:25:38 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: I think its actually an issue with paths with spaces....beginner mistake :(
02:25:48 <Gizmokid2005> so if you'd try it both ways, with and without path spaces.
02:26:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... Other\Source\PortableApps.comInstaller* is all left there?
02:27:10 <ChrisMorgan> And Other\Source\Languages on top of that too.
02:27:18 <Gizmokid2005> Yep.
02:27:28 <Gizmokid2005> Looks like it
02:29:04 <ChrisMorgan> Ooh! Backing up the whole HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Trolltech key? Don't like that.
02:29:14 <Gizmokid2005> Yep
02:29:20 <Gizmokid2005> because there's apps that actually utilize it.
02:29:26 <Gizmokid2005> rather safe than sorry
02:29:32 <Gizmokid2005> you shouldn't change something that already exists.
02:29:51 <ChrisMorgan> I mean the /whole/ key rather than dealing with the proper subkeys.
02:29:53 <Gizmokid2005> as it's very possible those keys exist before you launch KVirc, they should be put back when you're done ;)
02:30:00 <Gizmokid2005> Yep, because there's so many subkeys
02:30:03 <ChrisMorgan> No wizard when installed to a path with no spaces.
02:30:13 <Gizmokid2005> Good, as expected.
02:30:34 <ChrisMorgan> Still don't like it. The plugins should be dealt with individually - the plugin cache is most or all of it, I guess?
02:30:40 <Gizmokid2005> most of it
02:31:50 <ChrisMorgan> Clearing the data (and App\KVIrc\portable) and inserting a space in the path, it shows the wizard.
02:32:14 <Gizmokid2005> Dammit...I figured
02:32:15 <Gizmokid2005> thanks
02:33:25 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: look at the regshot: http://gizmokid2005.com/temp/regshot.htm <-- that's why I did the full key backup
02:34:37 <Gizmokid2005> welp...looks like I send JTH a revision
02:34:38 <Gizmokid2005> :(
02:35:04 <ChrisMorgan> I presume the .kva, .kvc, .kvs and .kvt file types and the irc, irc6, ircs and ircs6 protocols aren't done when portable=true?
02:36:05 <Gizmokid2005> correct
02:36:14 <Gizmokid2005> that was my initial regshot when I did a local install
02:36:58 <Gizmokid2005> but I apparently /forgot?/ to put quotes around my parameters for the .ini file kvirc needs
02:36:59 <ChrisMorgan> As for the Trolltech key, with PAL it is quite literally three lines to fix the whole lot.
02:37:03 <Gizmokid2005> and with spaces it barfs all over it.
02:37:24 <ChrisMorgan> Always such a problem.
02:37:43 <Gizmokid2005> yep...I'm not sure how it wasn't noticed before...because it's been out there for a LONG time with TONS of downloads
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02:38:28 <Gizmokid2005> 1027 downloads of KVIrc4 portable
02:38:42 <ZachThibeau> not bad
02:38:42 <Gizmokid2005> and nobody had an issue...most probably don't have spaces in their paths either though...
02:38:51 <ZachThibeau> got about that much at first too
02:38:53 <Gizmokid2005> since it was posted it's already had 217 downloads..
02:39:08 <Gizmokid2005> all those were pre-release ZachThibeau, the DTs and the PRs.
02:39:25 <ChrisMorgan> About the Qt keys cleanup, take a look at http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ref/launcher.ini/qt/ - the keys match exactly with the example I have there except it's 4.5 instead of 4.6.
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02:40:54 <ChrisMorgan> I /really/ don't like the total Trolltech backup way. There are too many Qt apps which could be damaged by sudden carpet-pulling, or local data loss.
02:42:19 <Gizmokid2005> like what ChrisMorgan?
02:42:30 <Gizmokid2005> all that is stored in there are the dates/versions of the plguins that are used.
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02:43:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:43:16 <ChrisMorgan> Some settings go in the Trolltech key. The OrganizationDefaults one is just caches and whatnot, but Trolltech contains some settings.
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02:43:25 <ChrisMorgan|away> Sorry, bbl
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03:35:43 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan|away: feel free to port my launcher if you'd like ;) :P
03:42:07 * auscompgeek feels like creating a ChatZilla portable
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03:45:54 <SergentSiler> isnt that included with seamonkey portable?
03:46:02 <SergentSiler> and as an addon for firefox portable?
03:46:04 <SergentSiler> :
03:46:05 <SergentSiler> :P*
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03:58:53 <pa_6292> Hello, I have a question.
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05:07:08 <machete> I need help with installing the "PortableApps.com Launcher"
05:07:13 <machete> anybody able to do that?
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06:53:30 <mashetee> question for anyone who is available to help?
06:59:42 <ChrisMorgan> Please ask your question. Then we may be able to help.
06:59:58 <mashetee> ok, I just wanted to make sure someone was available first.
07:00:10 <mashetee> I'm trying to install the PortableApps Launcher
07:00:43 <mashetee> I don't understand the "Create Installer for" thing though
07:01:16 <ChrisMorgan> Create /installer/ for?
07:01:41 <mashetee> yeah, I'm using the "PortableApps.comInstaller"
07:01:41 <ChrisMorgan> If you're trying to use the PortableApps.com Launcher to make a portable app, I suggest that you first read through the manual.
07:01:52 <ChrisMorgan> The Installer and Launcher are different things.
07:02:09 <mashetee> oh?
07:02:12 <ChrisMorgan> The Installer creates an installer from a package. The Launcher is for creating launchers with.
07:02:12 <mashetee> what's the installer
07:03:32 <mashetee> oh, I thought it was like the Portable Apps Suite thing
07:03:37 <mashetee> except you could add your own programs
07:04:12 <ChrisMorgan> No, it all still requires effort.
07:04:34 <mashetee> ok, well thank you sir.
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18:59:06 <gluxon> Could a mod remove the link here? http://portableapps.com/node/24114#comment-153039
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19:23:18 <pa_6052> greetings, i have a ? about google chrome portable. has the auto updater been disabled?
19:24:07 <gluxon> pa_6052: Yeah, the updater is incomaptible with the portable version, it was disabled unfortunately.
19:24:20 <gluxon> Using it would break portablility.
19:24:21 <pa_6052> no way, thats a beautiful thing
19:24:44 <pa_6052> thanks for the answer , made my day
19:25:03 <pa_6052> The auto updater is evil
19:25:09 <gluxon> Well, the PortableApps Updater should be out with the platform 2.0, so you can update through that.
19:25:33 <gluxon> Oh, I see, nevermind, I aggree with you :P
19:25:52 <pa_6052> Ill do it manually, thats not a problem, its just in the normal version my chrome folder was getting upto like 1gb
19:26:07 <pa_6052> was worried bout that
19:26:32 <pa_6052> thank u very much, cheers, n happy 4th
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