IRC Log from 2010-07-06

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01:02:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
01:07:30 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau
01:07:43 <auscompgeek> Hey guys.
01:08:08 * auscompgeek decides to pastebin his ChatZilla Portable launcher
01:09:00 <ChrisMorgan> auscompgeek: but ChatZilla is available in SeaMonkey or as an extension for Firefox - why would you use the standalone XULRunner version?
01:09:33 <auscompgeek> My Firefox can freeze sometimes.
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04:06:29 <JohnTHaller> hola
04:07:25 <Gizmokid2005> 'allo JohnTHaller
04:08:36 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
04:09:12 <Gizmokid2005> just about to count sheep I do believe...
04:09:17 <Gizmokid2005> its been a long weekend
04:09:22 <JohnTHaller> i hear you
04:10:26 <Gizmokid2005> had to work on the wife's vehicle...some parts didn't come in on time, fireworks the same day, her parent's yesterday...another parade today.....
04:10:44 <Gizmokid2005> also studied for and got my pre-cert done for my Boater's safety cert...just have to call and take that to finish it..
04:11:24 <JohnTHaller> you have a boat?
04:11:54 <Gizmokid2005> I don't. But I like to go out on the water, wife's grandparents have a few boats and my brother's boss has a few jetskis he wants me to go out with him on so...
04:12:10 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: there's a random line at the top of every page with just a "\" in it...it's grey...typo?
04:12:37 <JohnTHaller> huh? i don't see it
04:12:46 <Gizmokid2005> above the banner
04:12:54 <JohnTHaller> again. i don't see it
04:12:57 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
04:12:58 <JohnTHaller> what browser?
04:13:14 <JohnTHaller> oh wait, i see it
04:13:30 <Gizmokid2005> K
04:13:38 <JohnTHaller> i thought you meant the banner with the 2.0 preview. not the navbar
04:13:49 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, no.
04:14:11 <Gizmokid2005> I still consider the top like that a banner...just traditionally what it was and never changed...sorry about that
04:14:35 <Gizmokid2005> I'll work on some instructions for http://portableapps.com/support/chat for KVirc as well as noted in the news topic for it.
04:15:00 <JohnTHaller> Fixed
04:15:12 <Gizmokid2005> Yep it is :)
04:15:15 <JohnTHaller> Cool, that'd be helpful
04:15:59 <Gizmokid2005> Not a problem. I'll also work on an updated screenshot for the app page as well...the one you've got, looks like you pulled from the kvirc site, and is for 3.2.6
04:16:48 <Gizmokid2005> once I have them, where would you like me to send them?
04:16:56 <JohnTHaller> jh@pa
04:17:07 <JohnTHaller> can you shoot em with win7 or vista?
04:17:22 <Gizmokid2005> Win7, it's what I run
04:17:44 <Gizmokid2005> full name @pa?
04:18:48 <JohnTHaller> all lowercase no middle initial
04:18:51 <Gizmokid2005> k
04:19:00 <Gizmokid2005> will do.
04:19:23 <JohnTHaller> Oh, think about any redesign ideas on the app pages. I'm redoing them now. All database driven.
04:19:51 <Gizmokid2005> Ooh, nice :)
04:22:31 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I'm updating the "Source" link for KVirc as well, you have it pointing to the Firefox source files right now...I can't find the link that has the package IDs, rather just the plaintext link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Source (KVirc)/
04:22:56 <JohnTHaller> yeah, link to that. All of the links need updating
04:23:16 <Gizmokid2005> K
04:23:30 <Gizmokid2005> I found a few things on that page that needed updating, that one I just noticed and wasn't sure on
04:25:20 <Gizmokid2005> already 1584 downloads too, impressive!
04:25:48 <Gizmokid2005> songbird doesn't even have that many in the same 7day period
04:25:57 <JohnTHaller> it's been out longer
04:26:25 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah, it had just shy of 3k dls on release date
04:26:28 <JohnTHaller> don't forget this was a VERY slow weekend. US holiday, so downloads take a nosedive
04:26:37 <Gizmokid2005> yep.
04:27:41 <Gizmokid2005> I've got a minor bug I need to fix, but it shouldn't warrant a revision. The guys have changed up their svn now...they're maintaining a stable branch as well as SVN...and are working on another version 4.0.1 (at least for now) to clean up a few more bugs, and I don't think almost /anyone/ will have an issue with it. so I'll include it in there
04:27:57 <Gizmokid2005> plus ChrisMorgan had mentioned he didn't care for the way I handled the Qt reg entries either...
04:28:10 <Gizmokid2005> not sure what I'm going to do about that though
04:28:12 <JohnTHaller> yeah, wait and match their release
04:28:43 <Gizmokid2005> the bug I've found has been there for quite a while now, and I've had no complaints so. I'm not too worried.
04:29:02 <Gizmokid2005> I've already made the fix and recompiled on my end so it's good to go from that perspective.
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06:53:53 <pa_6130> help
06:53:54 <GizmoBot> pa_6130: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
06:57:20 <pa_6130> how the first thing to do to get a portable apps on my usb flash disk.
06:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> pa_6130: just download and install them.
07:00:54 <pa_6130> which one? do i have to get the installer first, sorry my english isn't good.
07:07:05 <pa_6130> Chris ??
07:08:26 <ChrisMorgan> Download the apps that you want.
07:10:03 <pa_6130> can you give me a step by step instruction? please
07:18:46 <pa_6130> i've got an new usb flash disk here and want to have a portable apps suite instlalled and running on a pc. will it run automaticly when i plug it on. do i have to get downloading an installer first.
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07:25:39 <pa_7440> help do i have to download and install PA.c installer first to get a PA.c suite?
07:25:40 <GizmoBot> pa_7440: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
07:26:46 <pa_7440> do i have to download and install PA.c installer first to get a PA.c suite?
07:29:06 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7440: no, it's a utility for making the installers.
07:31:45 <pa_7440> thank you so much
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11:00:19 <mupan> Hi all. Is it a known issue that download from sf.net fails? Or is this my personal problem only? I'm not living in Syria or some other "evil" countries, so ...
11:04:32 <benedikt93> Hi mupan. I just tried to dl from sf and had no problems. I think there were other people having problems when downloading from sf, you might want to search to forums. Did you already retry the dl several times? The issue might be caused by an unstable internet connection. You might also tryy to choose a different mirror at sf.
11:06:08 <benedikt93> You could also try to dl with another download manager, maybe DownThemAll or WinWGet which both are available at PA.c
11:09:16 <mupan> hi bene. well, tried direct links, other mirrors, extracting part of the dl link, and such. and waited for half the day to retry the same. seems to be a kind of looping through sf and mirror urls showing in the status bar. and, strange enough, last tries anyway resulted in the portable apps platform, no matter what i started to dl. i give downthemall a try, and a cmdline dl'er, should have wget and curl.
11:10:54 <mupan> or: iexplore? (ducking my head down ;-) )
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11:19:30 <mupan> dta will result in a htm file. even the html source of the actual dl page does not contain a simple direct link to the exe. don't think other (cmdline) downloader should be more successful then. i should open a ticket at sf's?
11:21:51 <mupan> well, i will open a ticket, but at firefox's. was successful with ie engine, i.e., ie tab plus firefox extension
11:22:06 <mupan> thank you, benedikt
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15:11:26 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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16:12:03 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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17:17:27 <ZachThibeau> howdy m-p{3}
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17:20:53 <Bensawsome> yo m-p{3} sup
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17:25:48 <m-p{3}> Hi
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17:32:35 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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18:16:23 <pa_6361> gluxon: So whats up with Eclipse 3.6 portable?
18:16:59 <gluxon> It's all uploaded --> https://sourceforge.net/downloads/eclipseportable/
18:17:36 <pa_6361> Then why not make a post about it in the beta forums :P
18:18:20 <pa_6361> ?
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18:20:57 <pa_6361> I wonder if john will be able to keep is self imposed deadline this time :P
18:30:12 <ZachThibeau> we all wonder the same thing
18:30:39 <pa_6361> I guess we do XD
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19:37:18 <pa_2552> How to I delete Firefox Portable completely off my USB Drive
19:37:24 <pa_2552> and Still keep all of my other apps
19:38:28 <sar3th> pa_2552: please see http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
19:38:35 <pa_2552> Thank You
19:38:49 <sar3th> in a nutshell, delete the "Firefox Portable" folder in your PortableApps folder
19:39:29 <pa_2552> But I didnt know if it completly removed it from my USB Drive
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20:03:12 <Bensawsome> .... thats what portable means xD
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21:29:16 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
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23:15:43 <Mokura> Is it possible to use the Firefox Portable launcher with the Firefox 4 beta, or are things too fundamentally different?
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23:18:02 <ZachThibeau> it's still early to tell at this point, but it should work, no promises though
23:18:17 <Mokura> Oh
23:18:26 <Mokura> Now that you're here the same time I am
23:18:48 <Mokura> Is is possible to change PChat Portable's user icons by resource hacking or something like that?
23:18:56 <Mokura> Or would I have to recompile from source?
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23:21:13 <ZachThibeau> no reshacking but there is a way
23:21:25 <Mokura> gtkrc editing?
23:21:50 <ZachThibeau> nope not even that
23:21:54 <Mokura> Oh huh.
23:21:57 <Mokura> What, then?
23:22:08 <ZachThibeau> it involves going into the settings folder and creating a folder named icon
23:22:13 <Mokura> If it's something obvious I missed, I'm going to feel very silly.
23:22:50 <ZachThibeau> from there you will need to make some png icons about 8x8 with hop.png, op.png etc
23:23:01 <ZachThibeau> then after that restart PChat
23:23:32 <ZachThibeau> it should work, before I updated PChat's source I had an easier way of doing that but this way still works in the same way
23:24:13 <Mokura> So .\pchatport\Data\settings\[png files here] ?
23:24:33 <ZachThibeau> no you missed the icon folder in the settings
23:24:40 <Mokura> oh
23:24:43 <ZachThibeau> you need to make that folder first and insert the png files there
23:24:47 <Mokura> So .\pchatport\Data\settings\icon\[png files here] ?
23:24:53 <Mokura> alright then
23:25:19 <ZachThibeau> you can also view pchats faq about it and other than that yes http://pchat-irc.com/faq/#q27
23:25:32 <Mokura> Oh hey, nice.
23:25:46 <Mokura> I couldn't get to the site before because it was redirecting to a generic Google Sites page.
23:26:07 <ZachThibeau> yeah I was working on getting google apps intergated ie gmail for my domain etc
23:26:16 <Mokura> Ah, neat.
23:26:22 <ZachThibeau> it's all setup now :P minus the google site page
23:26:28 <Mokura> Right
23:27:04 <Mokura> is there a way to make spacing for priv'd/non-priv'd names in the userlist consistent? That's the one thing that bothered me slightly about the new icons:
23:27:21 <Mokura> entries with voice or over were spaced slightly wider than normal users
23:27:33 <Mokura> (so I just switched to text symbols in the meantime)
23:27:43 <ZachThibeau> unfortunetly not really unless you switched to the text symbols
23:27:54 <ZachThibeau> and nor do I intend to change it in the near future
23:28:00 <ZachThibeau> not right away anyways
23:28:21 <Mokura> Ah it's fine.
23:29:01 <Mokura> Just a strange thing I noticed between 1.1 and the previous version
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23:29:43 <Mokura> Thanks for the help, though! XChat is easily my favorite IRC client and it's nice to see continued work on a portable build.
23:30:17 <ZachThibeau> well the main issue with XChat on windows was the fact zed is violating the gnu gpl with his shareware build
23:30:26 <Mokura> Yeah, I read about that.
23:30:51 <ZachThibeau> I forked it so that I can make my own build and hopefully gain the same results but free for everyone
23:31:01 <Mokura> Yup, it's really appreciated.
23:31:35 <ZachThibeau> I mean he can sell it and he has every right but he needs to release his changes for the windows build which he has refused to do on many occassions
23:32:29 <ZachThibeau> brb folks switching to my desktop
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23:34:20 <ZachThibeau> ahh so good to be back on a bigger screen
23:34:46 <Mokura> know how that is
23:34:46 <ZachThibeau> netbooks are ok but nothig beats a 1440x900 screen (unless you have a bigger one :P)
23:35:09 <Mokura> my main laptop's gfx card failed so I'm back on my 4+ year old inspiron 1200 :V
23:35:31 <ZachThibeau> ohh ouch
23:36:20 <ZachThibeau> my desktop I love mostly because I built it from brand new parts AMD Phenom X2 II Black Edition with a third core unlocked, 5gigs of ram, 1tb hard drive, I consider my desktop my baby
23:36:34 <Mokura> Whoa.
23:36:50 <ZachThibeau> built it under $300 too
23:37:25 <Mokura> Double whoa.
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