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00:52:57 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Hello, I have a question.
00:53:03 <ChrisMorgan> Please ask it.
00:53:29 <Everest> so, it's almost 21:00 in NY :D *EXCITED*
00:53:32 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: In the Apps list, why isn't AniFX there?
00:53:45 <ChrisMorgan> Because it's not an officially released portable app.
00:54:08 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: How come? IcoFX made it.
00:54:27 <ChrisMorgan> It just hasn't been done yet.
00:55:38 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Okay, I ask this because I do have AniFX on my USB drive, but I can't get the icon to show up.
00:56:30 <ChrisMorgan> AniFX or a AniFX Portable Development Test?
00:59:29 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: AniFX. I downloaded ot from the authors' website. Remember how in a normal portable app setup there's a setup like "PortableApps\testapp\App\AppInfo"?
01:00:44 <pa_5740> I put AniFX in the AppInfo folder because when I made an appino.ini file, that's the only way it worked.
01:01:30 <ChrisMorgan> That's not how it all works. And it takes more than that to either get it to show in the menu or to be portable.
01:01:45 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: But I can't get the icon, which while it isn't the biggest issue in the world, it would be nice to have the icon in the menu.
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01:02:00 <ChrisMorgan> Try http://portableapps.com/node/20664 instead
01:03:49 <pa_5740> Okay, would you want me to be a beta tester of this program and give you reports on how well it works?
01:05:30 <ChrisMorgan> It's considered to be pretty stable, and should be being released some time. But it is useful to get reports back too.
01:05:42 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: By the way, what is Angry IP Scanner?
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01:06:30 <ChrisMorgan> A network scanner.
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01:06:38 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.angryip.org/w/About
01:07:17 <iHavezMyBirdo> 9 o' clock NY Time o.o
01:08:02 <pa_5740> Okay, I ask this because Norton's jumping all over it.
01:08:45 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Not to mention the fact that AniFX was deleted as well, because of the site it came from.
01:08:48 <ChrisMorgan> It's the sort of utility which is more likely to be jumped on.
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01:13:22 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Can I get the icons that are in the AniFX package?
01:13:28 <ChrisMorgan> ?
01:16:03 <pa_5740> Let's just say I'm a little new to Norton, so I don't entirely know how everything works yet, so for the time being I can't get AniFX.
01:16:35 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: At least, not on this computer.
01:17:17 <ChrisMorgan> I don't understand what you're asking. You just need to download and install that package I linked to
01:17:47 <iHavezMyBirdo> But Norton isn't letting you do so?
01:18:00 * iHavezMyBirdo stays shut.
01:18:02 <pa_5740> iHavezMyBirdo: Nope.
01:18:26 <iHavezMyBirdo> Hm :/
01:20:27 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Which is why I wouldn't mind having the icons from the AniFX portable package. If that's not a problem. I realize what I'm asking may be dumb, due to the size of the problem, but since I have the portable package from the authors' site, that's all I need.
01:21:03 <ChrisMorgan> pa_5740: that's what you download. The whole thing. It's more than just the app, it's the wrapper to /make/ it portable.
01:22:10 <pa_5740> I didn't mean your download, check here please: http://icofx.ro/anifx/downloads.html
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01:31:03 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Hello?
01:31:27 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry
01:31:48 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Did you look at the link I gave?
01:32:18 <ChrisMorgan> We can't really help with that, it's not one of our packages. The one in Beta Testing will work properly with the Platform, and will be properly portable. That one we can't guarrantee at all.
01:32:21 <ChrisMorgan> But still,
01:32:24 <ChrisMorgan> .def addingapps
01:32:24 <GizmoBot> addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details.
01:33:31 <pa_5740> Alright, I'll see if I can obtain it from another PC, sorry if I wasted your time.
01:34:21 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Well, I must be going now, Bye!
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02:17:49 <JohnTHaller1> Hey guys. The Beta 5 release has been pushed to tomorrow. Should be out in the AM or early afternoon NYC time. http://portableapps.com/node/24104?page=1#comment-153762
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02:36:49 <iHavezMyBirdo> Dang it..
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02:43:16 <iHavezMyBirdo> Well, another day to wait is all, no big deal.
02:57:29 <OliverK> i've been a member for 3 years and 15 weeks
02:57:31 <OliverK> wow. . .
02:57:51 <sar3th> wow OliverK :D
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04:12:10 <JohnTHaller> Nice OliverK
04:12:17 <OliverK> ?
04:12:27 <JohnTHaller> "i've been a member for 3 years and 15 weeks"
04:12:35 <OliverK> i'm not that impressed
04:12:41 <JohnTHaller> no?
04:12:42 <OliverK> its a date and nothing more
04:13:02 <OliverK> there's people that have been members longer and have done less
04:13:13 <OliverK> and those that have been members less and done more
04:13:51 <OliverK> its interesting though, it does relate a point that my digital life became somewhat simplier
04:14:45 <JohnTHaller> trye
04:14:46 <JohnTHaller> true
04:15:09 <JohnTHaller> alright, I'm logging off to get sleep. need to wake up early in the AM to get the cat to the vet for chemo and finish up beta 5.
04:15:18 <OliverK> night
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06:32:19 <shanet> hey every1
06:32:32 <shanet> just saw something, which made me wonder
06:32:37 <shanet> isn't JTH from NY?
06:33:42 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
06:34:18 <shanet> lol wow he's up late (i got a response from him @ 1:55)
06:34:30 <shanet> so thats 1:55 am for him :)
06:34:37 <shanet> prob fixing the bugs
06:41:41 <OliverK|Away> night
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07:41:00 <Drive-Dude> Hi I think many people should shut the **** up they dont understand the fact that John and others offer their time and energy for free. So how about showing a little gratitude by being patient. What if it became a shareware would they then be happier and need to pay up to use PortableAps.com Platform. Stop giving you all feeling stressed out
07:41:57 <Drive-Dude> It is not fair
07:45:26 <Drive-Dude> I just wante to say I dont mind to waite as long as it is needed
07:48:03 <Drive-Dude> Because to me it is the only menu which has the worth to use then the other out there
07:48:20 <Drive-Dude> others
07:48:57 <Drive-Dude> I hope you can see this
07:49:43 <Gringoloco> Drive-Dude: Don'r worry about it, I think JTH is quite used to it by now.
07:49:54 <Gringoloco> *don't
07:56:00 <Drive-Dude> I dont think he should be at all. People should understand.it is not easy. Even if you make a theme it can take a lot of time. You can't really get a good quality menu wirth out paying for it
07:56:32 <Drive-Dude> with
07:59:28 <Drive-Dude> they should be grateful
08:00:20 <Drive-Dude> That is why i like to be anonymous
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08:17:32 <MaienM|Sleep> Drive-Dude: I agree that people shouldn't be making demands when it comes to free stuff
08:18:12 <MaienM|Sleep> HOWEVER, if you chose to give out a release date I feel you should make it, if you're unsure if you can, just don't give out release dates
08:18:53 <MaienM|Sleep> if you start raising people's expectations and then don't live up to them, it's only natural people will be disappointed
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08:20:12 <shanet> But that doesn't mean people can flame and stuff like that
08:20:51 <shanet> because JTH didn't hit the ESTIMATED time of arrival, doesn't mean every1 can flame.
08:21:07 <MaienM> sure, people need to relax
08:21:18 <shanet> I'm sorry MaienM, but I'm with Drive-Dude on this
08:21:28 <MaienM> but the ETA wasn't "estimated", it was given as a release date
08:21:37 <MaienM> and it's not like it's the first time this happened
08:21:38 <shanet> But I think how Drive-Dude came in was a bit rude sorry
08:21:47 <MaienM> I agree, people shouldn't be flaming and stuff
08:22:07 <MaienM> but I also think JTH is at fault too, for giving out release dates and not making them multiple times
08:22:22 <MaienM> if I were him I'd just NOT give a date other than "when it's done"
08:22:23 <shanet> Even so, JTH is giving up his time and there are some ungrateful little s***s who say it's not good enough
08:23:00 <shanet> I understand what everyone is saying coz i was up @ three in the morning trying to be one of the first to get it.
08:23:09 <MaienM> for the record, iirc this is JTH's JOB, not his hobby.
08:23:15 <MaienM> not anymore, anyway
08:23:16 <shanet> but i'm not grumpy at him, only the ones who flame him.
08:23:40 <MaienM> I might be mistaken about that though, but I thought that was the case anyway
08:24:08 <shanet> how does he get enough money for this if his job pay is 0? i don't think there are that many nice pplz out there
08:24:21 <shanet> do u no what times he is working?
08:24:47 <MaienM> anyway, I'm not trying to attack JTH here or anything, just saying that I can understand people being disappointed about him not making release dates when he gives them out
08:25:00 <shanet> He was up @ 2am (his time) to get this done
08:25:06 <MaienM> I'm not attacking JTH, so there is no need to defend him
08:25:27 <shanet> I can understand it too but he's doing this for free so dont let me at the forums
08:25:39 <Drive-Dude> Hi I dont mean to sound rude I am very sorry. But they just need some time.
08:25:46 <shanet> I just feel like he's not getting enough credit thats al
08:25:50 <shanet> *all
08:26:08 <Drive-Dude> I am so sorry
08:26:27 <MaienM> no problem Drive-Dude, I understand your anger
08:26:28 <shanet> thats right
08:26:42 <Drive-Dude> I am very a nice guy
08:26:56 <shanet> I am sure most pplz here are nice.
08:27:14 <MaienM> yeah... unless you push us, that is :P
08:27:25 <MaienM> we all have stuff we're sensitive/defensive about
08:27:34 <shanet> Drive-Dude: And it seems u were ready to have ur reputation blemishend to defend someone elses that u probly dont no
08:27:35 <Drive-Dude> You just sould not go up in flames about free stuff
08:27:41 <Drive-Dude> should
08:27:49 <shanet> Oh well...
08:27:52 <MaienM> anyway, I'm just hoping the release gets out soon, even if he did miss his release date
08:28:42 <shanet> We all hope that
08:28:46 <shanet> I just checked sourceforge and saw i got 90 downloads yesterday which is my highest ever (My 2nd best is around 40)
08:28:58 <shanet> so im happy
08:29:01 <shanet> (mostly)
08:29:25 <shanet> i just want to rip the heads off of ppl who say stuf bout JTH saying its not good enough, but i cant can i
08:29:32 <MaienM> gratz :)
08:29:34 <MaienM> which app?
08:29:35 <shanet> im calm now
08:29:48 <shanet> it was mostly HeeksCAD
08:30:13 <shanet> and its plugin HeeksCNC
08:30:23 <shanet> which made up for 55 or so downloads yesterday
08:31:23 <shanet> who likes the chipmunks?
08:32:44 <Drive-Dude> They are awesome
08:33:07 <Drive-Dude> I got the the second one on dvd
08:33:21 <Drive-Dude> I got need to buy the first one
08:33:30 <Drive-Dude> too
08:33:39 <shanet> lol r u using pchat or u on through the PA site?
08:34:23 <shanet>
08:34:24 <shanet>
08:34:26 <shanet>
08:34:33 <shanet> :)
08:34:39 <Drive-Dude> I just wante to say that I am very grateful. Otherwise I would be stuck using U3 Lauchpad
08:35:19 <shanet> i agree
08:35:38 <shanet> Drive-Dude: are u using pa site or pchat for the IRC?
08:35:43 <Drive-Dude> It is really not that good at all
08:35:55 <Drive-Dude> The webiste
08:36:24 <shanet> Drive-Dude: can i pm u plz?
08:36:25 <Drive-Dude> So are we cool. Because I dont mean to sound mean or rude
08:36:48 <shanet> ur fine. we all have our opinion
08:37:05 <shanet> anyway can i PM u plz?
08:37:23 <Drive-Dude> pm?
08:37:30 <Drive-Dude> time?
08:37:51 <shanet> PM=Private message.
08:38:02 <shanet> opens a new tab-like thing in the chat
08:38:16 <shanet> stops cramming up PA chat
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09:35:11 <awircser> sup]
09:35:20 <shanet> hey
09:35:25 <shanet> can wehelp you?
09:35:53 <awircser> FF question, not portable! - about retriving sent text to contact form!
09:36:01 <awircser> is that possible?
09:36:24 <shanet> Firefox portable is.
09:36:35 <awircser> yes, using FFP
09:36:38 <shanet> Are you talking about the one you found at our site?
09:36:44 <shanet> It is porttable
09:37:18 <shanet> sorry, are you saying you wish to recover text?
09:37:28 <awircser> yes
09:37:45 <awircser> i don't have that addon that save text fields :|
09:38:11 <shanet> I do not think that is possible sorry
09:38:22 <awircser> I sent a v.long message and the reciever deleted it by mistake :@
09:38:29 <awircser> are you sure?
09:38:56 <shanet> yes. Unless you can do it with normal FF, it can not be done with FFP. Sorry
09:39:23 <awircser> ok, thanks
09:39:35 <shanet> your welcome
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10:49:50 <shanet> its pretty quiet here
10:51:19 <MaienM> yep, this room is only meant for support and discussion related to PA.c, so it's quiet in here most of the time
10:51:50 <MaienM> we also have a social/off-topic channel, #portableapps-ot, which can be used for other discussions/general chitchat
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11:36:01 <pa_9234> Hi
11:36:20 <pa_9234> Can anyone tell me if I can install portable apps on my iPad?
11:39:48 <MaienM> you can't run them on your iPad, no
11:41:05 <pa_9234> Ok thanks for your help
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11:59:20 <Horusofoz> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/18786#comment-153805
12:01:00 <Horusofoz> ciao
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12:09:18 <shanet> MaineM: Have you seen the comment from Horusofoz? He has given us a link to a spam comment. Click the link (It is the bottom comment).
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12:24:54 <MaienM> shanet: yes I have (also, my nick is MaienM, not MaineM)
12:25:07 <MaienM> I can't do anything about it though, I'm not a moderator at the forums
12:42:11 <shanet> ok.
12:42:36 <shanet> I just typed mai then tabed it
12:42:38 <shanet> so...
12:42:42 <shanet> sorry tho
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13:07:21 <Devo> Gringo, were you ever able to get the innosetup extractor working properly?
13:13:25 <Gringoloco> Devo: If you use my full name, I would realize that you're looking for me
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13:15:45 <Gringoloco> Anyway, it should work for Media Monkey. If you could extract it manual, you should be able to extract it with PAI + innounp.exe
13:16:44 <Devo> right, I posted in the BurnAware topic trying to get a copy of the installer so I could look at the custom code, but never got a response
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13:17:52 <Gringoloco> Ah, the site is down
13:18:30 <Gringoloco> I got a copy of the PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh for you, that should be of some help
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13:21:55 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable.
13:22:18 <sar3th> good morning
13:22:39 <shanet> hello sar3th
13:23:09 <shanet> can we help you?
13:23:38 <sar3th> nah, i'm just checking whether you need help ;)
13:24:01 <shanet> kk thx. We are fairly quiet here, but make yourself at home!
13:25:59 <sar3th> Gringoloco: does that mean you are working on MediaMonkey Portable?
13:26:19 <Gringoloco> ??? That's devo's project
13:26:36 <sar3th> oh, okay
13:26:47 <sar3th> i confused your statements, sorry :/
13:27:26 <Gringoloco> Devo: I did reply in the BurnAware Portable topic, http://portableapps.com/node/23318#comment-153822
13:28:08 <Gringoloco> And make sure you get the latest innounp.exe, but you no that
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16:21:51 <shanet> cant wait till release time
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21:32:07 <pa_5740> You guessed it, I'm back, and with a question.
21:32:49 <pa_5740> That being, how good is ClamWin in comparison with other AV apps?
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21:35:13 <pa_5740> MaienM: Hello?
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21:38:00 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5740: ClamWin is not meant to be an RTS application
21:38:13 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: ?
21:38:15 <Gizmokid2005> it's a decent app, updated frequently, I know of a lot of users who love it.
21:38:21 <Gizmokid2005> RTS = Real Time scanner
21:38:31 <Gizmokid2005> it's an on demand scanning app.
21:38:43 <Gizmokid2005> so you have to tell it to do the scanning of the location you want.
21:38:51 <pa_5740> Oh I thought you meant, RTS = Real Time Strategy
21:39:30 <Gizmokid2005> Lol no
21:40:09 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: I meant in terms of how many viruses/malware it could pick up in comparison to other products.
21:40:31 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: That is, with my original question.
21:42:10 <Gizmokid2005> I can't say for sure...
21:42:31 <Gizmokid2005> av-comparatives doesn't list it in their tests, probably because it's not an RTS
21:42:47 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: Because I've heard that a while back it's detection rate was great, but now it's not as good as compared to other products. Of course, I don't know about now, so I may be inaccurate.
21:44:16 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: Although it is used in the VirusTotal service (http://www.virustotal.com/sobre.html).
21:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5740: right
21:52:50 <sar3th> virustotal tries to provide you with a vast variety of virus search engines' results, thus it uses clamav as well
21:53:14 <sar3th> at least, that's what i know :/
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22:01:15 <pa_5740> Goodbye!
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22:36:05 <pa_6497> does this work on mac?
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22:41:27 <Gizmokid2005> I think there need needs to be an FAQ created...
22:41:48 <Gizmokid2005> s/an/a/
22:41:58 <Gizmokid2005> s/need//
22:43:30 <sar3th> would be an idea
22:43:57 <Gizmokid2005> it's getting to the point it is a neccessity....even if it links to specific questions in the support pages...there needs to be one
22:44:11 <Gizmokid2005> to answer the stupid questions like above: [18:36:04] <pa_6497> does this work on mac?
22:45:03 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: do you think most people would pay any attention to it?
22:45:28 <Gizmokid2005> if it was in the header like "Support" is...yes
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22:45:39 <Gizmokid2005> because they have to click support and then online chat to get here anyways.
22:46:10 <Gizmokid2005> at least it would save us time by giving a place to point people to for those stupid questions
22:49:05 <Gizmokid2005> or even if it was an anchor at the top of the support page for "FAQ" and has them listed...even if they come after the application list with a TOC at the top of the page
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