IRC Log from 2010-07-16
00:02:27 *** Horusofoz has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
00:15:11 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
00:22:54 *** iHavezMyBirdo has parted #portableapps (None)
00:26:54 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving)
00:27:30 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos)
00:27:56 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps
00:30:11 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
00:36:19 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye)
00:59:35 *** Usbtastic has parted #portableapps (None)
01:01:24 *** ve4jhj (~ve4jhj@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps
01:01:28 <GizmoBot> ve4jhj is the developer of Scribus Portable and Armagetron Advanced Portable
01:01:49 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
01:13:43 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
01:13:45 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@c114-76-0-175.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps
01:17:03 *** ChrisMorgan1 has quit (Changing host)
01:17:03 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps
01:17:14 *** ChrisMorgan1 is now known as ChrisMorgan
01:29:27 *** shanet (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
01:30:01 <shanet> ChrisMorgan: Any idea what the status is with the menu?
01:30:07 <ChrisMorgan> No
01:32:31 <shanet> ok thanks
01:36:54 *** ve4jhj has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
01:42:32 <AppGuy> is there a reason John works on the menu alone?
01:46:08 <sar3th> he prefers it i think
01:46:42 <sar3th> tbh, i have not confronted him with that question though
01:55:18 <ChrisMorgan> There's also the point of the cost of the software.
02:00:56 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan: you mean the cost of the IDE?
02:02:05 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
02:02:20 <sar3th> well, i got the software through university
02:02:30 <sar3th> so it's basically free for me
02:03:36 *** Bensawsome has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
02:06:06 <ChrisMorgan> Delphi 2010? Interesting, Monash doesn't have any such thing. Mainly just Microsoft stuff.
02:08:31 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
02:08:31 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:08:37 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau
02:19:01 *** StatBot (~StatBot@c-76-24-226-134.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
02:19:02 *** StatBot has quit (Changing host)
02:19:02 *** StatBot (~StatBot@unaffiliated/bensawsome/bots/bensbots) has joined #portableapps
02:20:43 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-76-24-226-134.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
02:20:44 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
02:21:07 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest59210
02:22:06 *** Guest59210 has quit (Changing host)
02:22:06 *** Guest59210 (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps
02:22:49 *** Guest59210 is now known as Bensawsome
02:28:34 *** ve4jhj (~ve4jhj@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps
02:28:34 <GizmoBot> ve4jhj is the developer of Scribus Portable and Armagetron Advanced Portable
02:37:31 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
02:46:43 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
02:48:49 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps
03:16:16 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
03:25:21 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving)
03:26:22 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
03:27:20 * Alexhairyman is excited for the 2.0 release
03:35:19 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving)
03:35:38 *** pa_0667 (4ce96703@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.233.103.3) has joined #portableapps
03:35:55 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
03:36:18 <Alexhairyman> .help
03:36:35 <ve4jhj> Hello Alexhairyman. How ca we help you?
03:36:38 <ve4jhj> *can
03:37:39 <Alexhairyman> sorry meant to type "/help" as i have never used irc before
03:37:55 <shanet> Welcome to IRC
03:38:05 <shanet> It's fairly basic
03:38:05 <ve4jhj> No problem. What can we do for you today?
03:38:13 <shanet> Just type in the text box
03:38:25 <shanet> and wait for a reply, sorta like IM
03:38:32 <Alexhairyman> I think I figured that out =)
03:39:01 <shanet> good. If u didnt it would be worrying
03:39:15 <sar3th> so, what can we do for you? :)
03:39:38 <shanet> If you type "/help" and go into the freenode tab it will tell you everything u can do
03:40:01 <Alexhairyman> nothing really, it automatically connected when i ran pchat.
03:40:33 <shanet> cool
03:40:44 <shanet> just get the feel of it its really easy
03:41:15 <Alexhairyman> i feel i need to say this, and i know its been aswered but why is liberkey considered the utmost evil in the world on portableapps.com?
03:41:48 *** ve4jhj has quit (Quit: BRB, have to restart the machine)
03:42:38 <Alexhairyman> i don't mean any disrespect, I love portableapps.com it has several more practical applications, but liberkey has several system applications that i like to use when trying to figure out what is wrong with someone's system
03:43:47 <ChrisMorgan> It's not considered the /utmost/ evil - there are far worse sites.
03:44:41 <Alexhairyman> I have read some of the forums and i guess it has modified several applications that licenses don't allow it
03:45:17 <Alexhairyman> atleast there are no crack/warez
03:45:30 <ChrisMorgan> The main thing with them is not taking enough care of the GPL and copyright
03:46:05 <ChrisMorgan> And trademark violation too
03:46:55 <Alexhairyman> Thanks for the info
03:49:06 <pa_0667> what about
03:49:23 *** pa_0667 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
03:53:41 <Alexhairyman> liberkey, i don't know much about copyrights and stuff, anything I code is usually done in free time and never leaves my laptop
03:58:34 *** rmccue has parted #portableapps ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"")
04:07:56 *** mtthw92 has quit (Quit: Bye)
04:10:47 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Leaving)
04:14:13 *** newbie|2 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:14:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
04:15:55 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving)
04:16:28 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:17:17 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Client Quit)
04:19:04 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:21:47 <Alexhairyman> can anyone help with pchat? i think i hit a button and now my toolbar is gone?
04:24:35 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving)
04:27:56 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:39:59 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:40:08 <iHavezMyBirdo> Has beta5 been delayed again?
04:40:52 <newbie|2> At this point, I would think it's safe to assume so
04:41:07 <iHavezMyBirdo> Eh. Alrighty.
04:41:10 *** newbie|2 is now known as sja5164
04:53:17 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
05:33:45 *** iHavezMyBirdo has parted #portableapps (None)
05:41:27 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Cheez Itz!)
05:45:42 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@71-20-22-1.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps
06:18:27 <sar3th> hhhah
06:18:58 <ChrisMorgan> ?
06:19:15 <sar3th> i'm sad, you know why ;)
06:19:28 <Alexhairyman> your 40 and single?
06:19:48 <sar3th> wrong
06:20:23 <Alexhairyman> that seems like a pretty big prob in your life =D
06:22:08 <shanet> we have absolutely no idea. could it be that your dog got hit by a stationary car?
06:22:31 <Alexhairyman> your penis head was cut off?
06:22:37 <Alexhairyman> tell us GD
06:29:11 *** skeith (b6011001@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.1.16.1) has joined #portableapps
06:29:57 <skeith> is there any spesific channel for toucan portable support?
06:30:39 <sar3th> skeith: this is the one
06:31:03 <skeith> well, that's good
06:31:10 <skeith> I was wondering
06:31:34 <skeith> why toucan could not run on my Windows Server 2003 R2
06:32:09 <skeith> is it platform limited?
06:32:13 <ChrisMorgan> skeith: various apps don't run on Server 2003 R2, I've found.
06:32:38 <skeith> ah, I see,
06:33:09 <skeith> then, I should post it to the forum to address this issue
06:33:13 <skeith> am i right?
06:34:14 <ChrisMorgan> Feel free to. Steve may or may not try to get it working.
06:34:45 <skeith> uhm, I hope it will support windows server
06:35:06 <skeith> I tired copying manually, and did not want to install anything to the registry
06:35:34 <skeith> you know, i'm still green on this database admin job
06:39:52 *** skeith has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
07:11:33 *** pa_9236 (7cb848b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.184.72.181) has joined #portableapps
07:13:37 <pa_9236> hi, where can i find the source code for the platform 1.6.1 and Beta 4?
07:17:51 <pa_9236> ah found beta 5 source, so no worries.
07:21:27 <sar3th> you found WHAT?
07:22:50 <sar3th> you are right, it's there!
07:24:14 <pa_9236> yeah, it's up.
07:24:40 <pa_9236> having issues with the themes though. maybe i need to delete my old installation.
07:28:47 <pa_9236> also the updater keeps telling me to update WinMD5sum even though it's at same version
07:29:21 <pa_9236> nice theme colours
07:30:40 <sar3th> dang, i lack the default theme
07:32:10 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps
07:32:15 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
07:32:24 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller
07:32:24 <sar3th> hi JohnTHaller1
07:32:28 <JohnTHaller> hola
07:32:36 <sar3th> busy day i see :)
07:32:46 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: what are you doing up now?
07:32:54 <ChrisMorgan> You should have been asleep for hours.
07:33:05 <JohnTHaller> Finishing Beta 5, actually
07:33:05 <shanet> Hey john
07:33:14 <ChrisMorgan> You shouldn't be! :-)
07:33:16 <JohnTHaller> It's propogating now
07:33:18 <Gringoloco> Hello there
07:33:31 <shanet> Cool. It has been a long run!
07:33:44 <JohnTHaller> I just finished updating the updater.ini on the server for all current releases. I'm posting the page in the forums now and then the frontpage announcement.
07:33:51 <shanet> propogating? whats that?
07:34:00 <JohnTHaller> Copying to download mirrors all over the world
07:34:01 <pa_9236> i like it. thanks for the new version.
07:34:38 <shanet> awesome!
07:35:22 <shanet> so you got rid of the bugs then?
07:35:48 <JohnTHaller> what I could for now. It's a beta, so a few will be in there. and it's not close to final feature-wise of course.
07:36:28 <shanet> Thats fine. You have worked hard, and done your best, I'm sure. That's all we can ask of you.
07:36:30 <pa_9236> how do i get the new options window as per the screenshots?
07:36:57 <JohnTHaller> you don't. It's not in beta 5
07:37:03 <shanet> any1 got it yet?
07:37:15 <JohnTHaller> That's a 2.0 preview. As in final.
07:37:17 <pa_9236> ah ok, no worries.
07:38:26 <shanet> JohnTHaller: To update, it is like all other apps?
07:38:39 <pa_9236> shanet: yes: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/
07:38:46 <JohnTHaller> can't chat atm. updating screenshots
07:38:55 <shanet> Thanks
07:38:58 <shanet> kk
07:39:01 <shanet> its going now
07:39:12 <pa_9236> gotta run. thanks all.
07:40:04 <shanet> Done
07:40:23 <JohnTHaller> like it?
07:40:58 <shanet> It's already awesome and i havent had much time 2 check it out!
07:41:20 <JohnTHaller> Try out some themes. There are 32 of them. Mostly color variants. And a couple of bg image examples.
07:41:33 <shanet> already seen that i was blown away
07:41:46 <shanet> i've been working on a window 7 theme all day.
07:42:24 <JohnTHaller> Known bug: The theme list won't properly update with what you have selected, btw
07:42:43 <shanet> Thats k
07:42:50 <shanet> updating apps...
07:43:04 <shanet> I noticed you added the Donate to PA in the about box
07:43:40 *** pa_9236 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
07:43:59 <shanet> apparently beta 5 has been downloaded 0 times, but I just did!
07:44:15 <shanet> JohnTHaller: It's about 3 in the morning over there, isn't it?
07:45:10 <shanet> no quarter 2 4?
07:45:11 <ChrisMorgan> shanet: not sure where exactly you are but here in Melbourne with AEST it's "subtract two and flip the am/pm". Which makes it 3:45. Which means John should have been asleep by now.
07:45:26 <shanet> I'm in Perth :P
07:45:41 <ChrisMorgan> Eek! Almost as bad as America ;-)
07:45:54 <shanet> what are u talking bout?
07:46:03 <shanet> at least we have good drivers :P
07:46:16 <shanet> from here NY is 12 hours behind
07:46:48 <JohnTHaller> BTW - Anyone who already downloaded 2b5 has the wrong version :-(
07:47:36 <shanet> wat?
07:47:45 <JohnTHaller> There's a bug in it. A new one is uploading now.
07:47:58 <sar3th> in the sourcecode as well?
07:48:03 <shanet> ok.
07:48:04 <JohnTHaller> In both, yes.
07:48:10 <JohnTHaller> That's why I haven't announced them yet
07:48:24 <sar3th> k
07:48:32 <shanet> kk
07:48:43 <shanet> just a question,
07:49:11 <shanet> u no how u had the theme manager image? is that still in, or did u have 2 fish that out with the bug?
07:49:29 <JohnTHaller> As stated, the options window comes later
07:49:51 <shanet> Ok. thx
07:50:08 <shanet> looks interesting
08:02:01 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
08:24:04 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving)
08:37:46 *** shanet (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
08:41:55 <Gringoloco> Whoah
08:42:26 <JohnTHaller> Woah?
08:42:49 <Gringoloco> Thanx JohnTHaller, just downloading
08:44:54 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome
08:46:02 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: If you want to have a look at the RealProgress plug-in, I need the initial script to see what was wrong
08:46:18 <JohnTHaller> Oh, I forgot the source link... Hang on...
08:47:20 <Gringoloco> ...If you want ME to have a look...
08:47:45 <JohnTHaller> They're on SF, lemme dig up the link for you.
08:48:25 <sar3th> it looks very nice
08:49:20 <Gringoloco> but how to start the updater, manually ?
08:49:27 <sar3th> is there a seperate forum topic for the updater?
08:49:30 <JohnTHaller> Manage Apps - Check For Updates
08:49:44 <Gringoloco> :P
08:49:44 <JohnTHaller> No the updater is part of the platform.
08:49:49 <JohnTHaller> I'm posting known issues now
08:50:15 <JohnTHaller> Gringoloco: The source links are fixed in the forum topic
08:50:52 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: Can I find the script there with the problem of RealProgress?
08:51:04 <JohnTHaller> The updater script
08:52:04 <shanet> JohnTHaller: When I bring up the menu, the taskbar icon appears, when I minimize it to the tray it dissapears. I am in windows 7 and have it Windows7taskbarIcon=false
08:52:22 <JohnTHaller> That is currently unavoidable
08:52:42 <JohnTHaller> It's due to a Delphi 2010 change in form handling. We'll need to code around it later
08:53:04 <shanet> Ok. Just making sure you knew :)
08:53:14 <shanet> But everything else seems fine so far...
08:53:45 <JohnTHaller> I knoew about it before, but I honestly forgot. Just added it to known issues.,
08:54:53 <shanet> Thats fine. Will it be fixed in the next beta or final???
08:55:13 <JohnTHaller> Dunno. At the moment, I don't know how to fix it.
08:55:33 <shanet> ha yeah. But uve done a great job
08:55:48 <shanet> Aren't u tired? U should get some sleep!
08:56:02 <JohnTHaller> It's 5am. I'm exhausted
08:56:06 <sar3th> .t
08:56:06 <GizmoBot> Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:58:50 MESZ
08:56:17 <sar3th> i've been awake the whole night, waiting for it ^^
08:57:14 <shanet> I'll just drop that by the forum. Get some sleep, John. You need and deserve it. There are a million and one people out there who are thankful for what you have done. But you need rest.
09:00:55 <JohnTHaller> shanet - no need, it's already listed under known issues. so you can ditch that part of your comment
09:01:35 <shanet> OK. I shall do that. Just go and get some well deserved sleep.
09:01:35 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: should I comment SetProgress, when I anable/uncomment GradualProgress ? In the updater source
09:01:49 <Gringoloco> enable
09:01:54 <JohnTHaller> Just uncomment gradual. I use both set and gradual
09:01:57 <JohnTHaller> Or try to
09:03:00 <Gringoloco> I'll let you know about my findings asap
09:04:46 <shanet> JohnTHaller: All previous themes should work the same???
09:05:04 <JohnTHaller> Technically, they are no longer supported. The layout has changed.
09:05:18 <JohnTHaller> They may mostly work though
09:24:03 *** cienislaw (4e087bbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.8.123.191) has joined #portableapps
09:29:27 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM
09:31:33 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps
09:32:48 *** Usbtastic (~Usbtastic@CPE-124-184-72-181.lns13.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps
09:34:21 <Usbtastic> Hi, thanks for the updated platform beta.
09:34:23 *** pa_1484 (84b9f07b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.185.240.123) has joined #portableapps
09:34:48 <pa_1484> hi... where do i find the link to download the latest beta, please?
09:35:16 <Usbtastic> http://portableapps.com/node/24258
09:35:43 <Usbtastic> just down the page is the download link
09:36:01 <pa_1484> Thanks!!
09:36:08 <Usbtastic> no worries
09:36:51 <Usbtastic> Where is best for me to list some of my observations\bugs etc i've found in the Beta 5? Should i mention them here?
09:37:16 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving)
09:39:29 <JohnTHaller> on that page in the forum
09:40:26 <Usbtastic> ok thanks
09:40:37 *** abc11111175 (3a1bde32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.27.222.50) has joined #portableapps
09:40:57 <abc11111175> any gay here.?
09:41:16 *** abc11111175 has quit (Client Quit)
09:41:40 <cienislaw> why Windows7TaskbarIcon=true for example isnt added to ini by default?
09:43:20 <JohnTHaller> It's assumed. It'll appear in Advanced options later on.
09:44:23 <cienislaw> for now it will be better to add it to ini to let ppl know what to turn off it they dont want taskbar icon
09:44:35 <cienislaw> took me a while to google it
09:45:05 <cienislaw> and it was a issue which kept me with 1.5 till today
09:48:42 *** pa_1484 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
09:50:15 <cienislaw> the same should be with all options which are assumed - its nice that devs know, but will be nice to know by user what is assumed
09:52:26 <Usbtastic> is the Windows 7 theme preview from Beta 4 fully compatable with Beta 5?
09:54:03 <JohnTHaller> Try it and see,
09:56:17 <shanet> JohnTHaller: You have really changed the theming alot!
09:57:11 <Usbtastic> i'm having problems with the theme (i left a comment on the page). is there way to 'reset' the theme via ini file?
09:57:14 <JohnTHaller> We reworked it to make it easier to see your info, have a bit better layout and easier for folks to make simple themes. They can just use an image (see Rainbow and Textured) or a color (everything else) or a full BG image like before
09:57:22 <JohnTHaller> Which theme/
09:57:36 <JohnTHaller> Again, old themes aren't really supported anymore. The menu layout changed, so they won't look rigyht
09:58:11 <Usbtastic> all of them. when i select a new theme (from the built in list) the old one stays checked.
09:58:15 <JohnTHaller> If you close the menu and edit your PortableAppsPlatform.ini file in PA\PA.c\Data you can remove the current;y set theme
09:58:25 <Usbtastic> cool. thanks.
09:58:42 <JohnTHaller> what is checked
10:02:27 <Usbtastic> where is PortableAppsPlatform.ini?
10:03:13 <JohnTHaller> X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data
10:03:43 <Usbtastic> i seem to be missing that file
10:03:53 <shanet> JohnTHaller: Are there any tutorials up on theming under the new platform by any chance yet?
10:04:04 <JohnTHaller> No
10:04:07 <shanet> Usbtastic: Have you run the platform???
10:04:12 <JohnTHaller> Theming is not done. So releasing themes is a bad idea
10:04:17 <shanet> JohnTHaller: Ok. Thanks
10:04:17 <JohnTHaller> It's PortableAppsMenu.ini
10:04:23 <shanet> Thats ok
10:06:41 <Usbtastic> JohnTHaller: when selecting Textured theme, how do i un-select it?
10:06:54 <JohnTHaller> You don't Unseleect. You select a different one.
10:07:02 <JohnTHaller> You HAVE to have a theme selected
10:07:38 <JohnTHaller> Are you getting multiple themes with checkboxes?
10:08:14 <JohnTHaller> If so, redownload because you got the early copy that was bugged.
10:08:34 <Usbtastic> ah ok. that'll probably be it.
10:08:48 <JohnTHaller> CLear your browser's cache first
10:08:56 <Usbtastic> okey dokes
10:10:02 *** cienislaw has quit (Quit: Page closed)
10:12:05 <JohnTHaller> Alright... must sleep for at least a few hours since it's 6am. Gnight all.
10:12:43 <Usbtastic> i did have the earlier build, signed 1 at 4:59pm. good night
10:14:54 <Usbtastic> yep, the version signed at 6:02pm fixed my themes.
10:15:07 <JohnTHaller> cool
10:15:17 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None)
10:19:52 *** mtthw92 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
10:46:21 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away
10:56:04 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
11:03:25 *** m-p{3} (~pinardm@modemcable068.125-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps
11:19:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)
11:20:14 *** |shanet| has quit (Quit: Leaving)
11:20:36 <shanet> How is the new platform working for everyone?
11:23:38 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
11:28:10 *** iHavezMyBirdo has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
11:42:16 <Usbtastic> shanet: ok, just waiting for Beta 6 now :)
11:42:28 <Usbtastic> nice themes
11:42:36 <shanet> Can't wait :P
11:43:05 <Usbtastic> i'd like to remove the menu placeholder from the taskbar in XP
11:43:06 <shanet> Shame. I was making an awesome windows 7 theme. I'm about 98% through just now, and...
11:43:26 <shanet> What u mean?
11:44:11 <Usbtastic> the Platform\Menu now appears on the windows XP taskbar where Beta 4 didnt (only in the system tray)
11:44:26 <Usbtastic> i wonder if there is an ini option for it...
11:44:29 <shanet> Same in windows 7.
11:44:56 <shanet> However with Beta 4 you inout a few chars into a file and it overwrit that
11:45:42 <Usbtastic> Windows7TaskbarIcon=false
11:45:54 <shanet> yep
11:46:06 <shanet> did u have the same prob in XP?
11:46:23 <Usbtastic> only in Beta 5
11:46:48 <Usbtastic> Beta 4 with XP never showed on taskbar
11:47:04 <Usbtastic> i dont think....
11:47:05 <shanet> OK.
11:47:58 <shanet> I dont use XP anymore
11:50:14 <Usbtastic> i only use it on my netbook cos win 7 was a bit slow on it and some drivers didnt work too well.
11:51:21 <shanet> My sister is a complete money spender.
11:51:30 <shanet> She has no idea bout computer
11:51:39 <shanet> *computers
11:52:06 <shanet> So she went out and just bought the most crappy netbook
11:52:18 <shanet> and blames the distributor for it.
11:54:32 <shanet> dinner time. see u l8r
11:54:37 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving)
12:05:19 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@66-200-55-19.client.dsl.net) has joined #portableapps
12:10:03 *** sja5164 has quit (Client Quit)
12:11:40 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@66-200-55-19.client.dsl.net) has joined #portableapps
12:27:08 <MaienM> Usbtastic: that's a known problem with beta 5, it is due changes in delphi, JTH plans to work around it later
12:27:34 <Usbtastic> ok cool. thanks.
12:42:55 *** pa_1346 (6165321f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.101.50.31) has joined #portableapps
12:44:40 *** pa_1346 has quit (Client Quit)
13:07:10 *** shanet (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
13:09:33 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
13:09:59 *** |shanet| has quit (Client Quit)
13:10:31 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps
13:11:38 *** shanet has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
13:11:48 *** |shanet| is now known as shanet
13:15:48 *** Vodak (~Vodak@cpe-71-74-228-179.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
13:15:52 *** Vodak has parted #portableapps (None)
13:22:00 *** rouilj1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
13:34:52 *** Usbtastic has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
13:38:31 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps
13:45:41 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@134.193.239.47) has joined #portableapps
13:50:16 *** excid3|asus has quit (Client Quit)
14:14:18 *** pa_2171 (b6ef8f8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.239.143.143) has joined #portableapps
14:14:39 *** pa_2171 has quit (Client Quit)
14:48:43 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
14:48:43 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
14:49:09 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau
14:52:36 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not sure what everyone's problem is with the Win7 taskbar
14:52:44 <Gizmokid2005> it works fine for me...hidden when it's minimized...
14:57:29 <shanet> Gizmokid2005: but when its not minimized...
14:57:50 <Gizmokid2005> it should be there shanet...really, if it's not minimized, it's an active window
14:58:18 <shanet> but shouldn't we have options?
14:59:09 <Gizmokid2005> Yeah...which it is...just not working correctly like John said and MaienM as well. I wasn't sure exactly the "problem" everyone was having. I'd assume that to be normal behavior for any application with an active app window.
14:59:33 <Gizmokid2005> you should be able to just select it on the taskbar instead of always having to minimize windows or alt+tab
14:59:36 <Gizmokid2005> but options are good :)
15:11:41 *** Reactor5 (~Reactor5@user.jbu.edu) has joined #portableapps
15:11:47 *** Reactor5 has parted #portableapps (None)
15:14:00 <shanet> cya
15:14:06 *** shanet has parted #portableapps ("Leaving")
15:22:12 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
15:22:42 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th
15:27:25 *** m-p{3} has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
15:34:05 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
15:34:06 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
15:37:15 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-170-85.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps
15:52:23 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
15:54:48 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
15:54:48 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
16:06:50 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
16:07:13 <Gizmokid2005> hell JohnTHaller
16:07:18 <JohnTHaller> hell indeed
16:07:25 <Gizmokid2005> *hello
16:07:26 <Gizmokid2005> :D
16:08:16 <JohnTHaller> 4 hrs sleep.... ugh
16:08:23 <ZachThibeau> oh
16:08:24 <Gizmokid2005> I hear ya, trust me, I hear ya
16:08:30 <ZachThibeau> yeah not fun
16:08:45 <sar3th> heh, only got 1h today >_<
16:09:39 <ZachThibeau> just don't stay awake for 4 days in a row... trust me, not fun, I did once and was pretty tired enough that I started to see things :S
16:10:31 <ZachThibeau> anyways back to PChat bug fixing
16:33:08 *** JacobTwitch (4c6b77b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.107.119.182) has joined #portableapps
16:34:19 *** JacobTwitch has quit (Client Quit)
16:36:13 *** pa_6062 (4c6b77b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.107.119.182) has joined #portableapps
16:36:25 <pa_6062> Hello
16:37:50 <pa_6062> I can't load portable apps anymore, everytime i load portable apps it just reloads constantly and i get 20 or 30 copies of my shortcuts for my applications. can you please help me?
16:38:46 <pa_6062> help
16:38:46 <GizmoBot> pa_6062: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
16:39:19 <Gizmokid2005> what version of the menu pa_6062?
16:39:49 <pa_6062> let me check, i installed it in about feburary
16:40:26 <pa_6062> on the setup wizard i saved it says 1.6
16:40:40 <Gizmokid2005> when did the problem start pa_6062
16:41:30 <pa_6062> just about 10 minutes ago, and did it both times i tried to restart it. the second time it wouldn't stop reloading so i had to go to the windows task manager and kill the process
16:42:14 <Gizmokid2005> weird...
16:42:18 <Gizmokid2005> have you tried restarting.
16:42:34 <pa_6062> no, but i just started my computer
16:43:08 <pa_6062> oh ok, i just tried to start it up again and it loaded properly
16:43:12 <Gizmokid2005> weird
16:44:16 <pa_6062> do you think i should try the new verison of portable apps soon?
16:45:03 <Gizmokid2005> You can, or you can not. It's up to you really. The new beta has some new features.
16:45:18 <pa_6062> ok
16:45:44 <pa_6062> well thanks for your help
16:46:04 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome pa_6062
16:47:12 *** pa_6062 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
16:53:13 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
17:36:38 *** rouilj has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
17:37:48 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
17:44:42 <JohnTHaller> pa_6062's issue is most likely drive corruption, btw. issues in the file allocation table causing directories to show up multiple times.
17:54:17 <Gizmokid2005> I'd have expected /nothing/ to show up, not duplicates, but good to keep in mind
17:55:24 <JohnTHaller> when the directory tables get corrupted, sometimes a file can show up a dozen times when Windows tries to read/recover from it. It's really rare... I think I've seen it once in about 10 years.
17:55:33 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@71-20-22-1.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps
17:57:51 *** mtthw92 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
18:03:06 <Gizmokid2005> I've never seen it...anytime I see corruption like that windows just barfs over it...go figure
18:03:41 <Gizmokid2005> Well, DamnVid should be up soon, after I hear from the dev...next in line are TightVNC finished and then InstantBird possibly
18:13:06 <JohnTHaller> Nice :)
18:13:15 <Gizmokid2005> so long as you don't mind seeing them ;)
18:14:55 <JohnTHaller> You try the updater?
18:15:07 <Gizmokid2005> I did
18:15:12 <Gizmokid2005> and apparently had a lot of outdated apps as well :)
18:15:16 <JohnTHaller> Heh
18:15:18 <JohnTHaller> Thoughts?
18:15:25 <Gizmokid2005> it's simple, and I like it.
18:15:54 <JohnTHaller> Cool. Yeah, it's designed to be super-easy and as efficient as possible. I still have to update all the old apps installers for outdated ones so they'll work with it properly.
18:15:57 <Gizmokid2005> from what I remember, had just enough info to tell me what I wanted to know
18:16:31 <Gizmokid2005> the only thing that would be neat, and I'm pretty sure it might not even be possible, is if in a tooltip or summary you can tell what version it is currently and when it was installed
18:16:45 <Gizmokid2005> that's just neat information, and definitely not something I'd be sad that's not there
18:16:56 *** pa_0412 (7c527c1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.82.124.29) has joined #portableapps
18:17:06 *** pa_0412 has quit (Client Quit)
18:19:27 <JohnTHaller> I'm going to add an advanced option to have "Current Version" be a column for people who want it. As a general rule, it's just noise, since it doesn't really matter what version you have installed, just that there's a new one.
18:19:59 <JohnTHaller> I added in the ability to update the test apps like Chrome Dev and Firefox Beta as well, for fun.
18:22:47 <Gizmokid2005> Sounds good to me :)
18:36:45 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps
18:38:01 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: Is your RealProgress bug the one that makes the progress bar going up and down, when installing/downloading apps?
18:39:02 <JohnTHaller> GradualProgress goes past where it is supposed to when called. And then SetProgress doesn't set to the proper location afterwards.
18:39:53 <Gringoloco> So it's going forwards and then backwards?
18:40:07 <JohnTHaller> All sorts of oddness.
18:40:43 <Gringoloco> Cause that's what happens on my site with Ansi or Unicode NSIS. All equal
18:41:14 <JohnTHaller> When you set gradual from X to Y does it go past Y?
18:42:05 <Gringoloco> Haven't tried that yet, all I done, for now, is to see the difference with ansi or unicode compiling
18:43:26 <JohnTHaller> It may be broken in ANSI, too. I've never used GradualProgress except on its own from 0 to 90.
18:44:03 <Gringoloco> I will have a go on setting gradual from X to Y, to see what happens! Anymore info I should know?
18:45:12 <JohnTHaller> I think I left it in the updater code, just uncomment it to check it out.
18:45:33 <JohnTHaller> You can manually edit a couple of app's AppInfo.ini files and set the PackageVersion lower to force a re-update for testing the updater.
18:46:07 <Gringoloco> That's all I did, I was just wondering if my findings where the bug you where talking about
18:46:53 <Gringoloco> Yes, you did leave the code in!
18:46:58 <JohnTHaller> cool
18:47:25 <JohnTHaller> btw - your updater window will be standard nsis size not supersized like mine. I'm using updated UI files for compilation in NSIS itself
18:47:52 <Gringoloco> I'll play with it these days, inventually I could report it to the Nsis forum
18:48:18 <Gringoloco> Yes, I realized the smaller window. (So it wasn't me :-) )
18:48:45 <Gringoloco> Where did you get the updated UI files ?
18:49:33 <JohnTHaller> I hacked em with reshacker.
18:49:59 <Gringoloco> Maybe I should use them in my testing, could be part of the bug
18:50:16 <JohnTHaller> doubtful. it just widens the actual EXE's form.
18:50:40 <Gringoloco> Ok, if your that sure about it, it's up to you
18:51:08 <JohnTHaller> I'll package em for ya anyway
18:51:21 <Gringoloco> cool
18:51:37 <Gringoloco> just to be sure
18:51:44 <JohnTHaller> PMed
18:52:16 <Gringoloco> Thanxs
18:53:24 <Gringoloco> Are you aware that some apps do not install silently in PAU?
18:53:54 <JohnTHaller> See Known issues
18:55:12 <Gringoloco> sorry, didn't get around to that
19:00:37 <Gringoloco> and FileZilla Portable isn't updated (and possibily others)
19:03:33 <JohnTHaller> How so?
19:04:15 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away
19:04:39 <Gringoloco> not sure I got 3.3.2.1 and new version is 3.3.3, same for Nsis Portable
19:06:49 <Gringoloco> sorry NsisP could be my mistake, as I'm missing the appinfo. (I just gethered a lot of old versions I had scathered around)
19:07:07 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps
19:09:47 <Gringoloco> brb
19:15:26 <JohnTHaller> Anyone with thoughts on this? http://portableapps.com/node/24265
19:16:11 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
19:16:12 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
19:16:12 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
20:17:12 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
20:21:16 <Gringoloco> hi gluxon
20:21:28 <gluxon> Hi Gringoloco :)
20:24:39 <ZachThibeau> brb
20:24:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
20:29:22 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
20:33:18 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
20:33:18 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
21:01:16 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps
21:03:17 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)
21:04:02 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:11:52 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:12:55 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
21:21:20 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:41:07 *** BjornH has quit (Quit: Leaving)
21:45:04 *** pa_1962 (4e8d66bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.141.102.191) has joined #portableapps
21:45:25 *** pa_1962 has quit (Client Quit)
21:56:53 *** Pyromaniac (a8aefddd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.174.253.221) has joined #portableapps
21:57:18 <Pyromaniac> hey JohnTHaller , do you have a minute
21:57:37 <JohnTHaller> sup
21:58:52 <Pyromaniac> JohnTHaller: I read a little while ago how you said something about an app being able to be released with the second flood
21:59:05 <Pyromaniac> the dev of Don't Panic! was all on board
21:59:22 <Pyromaniac> perhaps you could squeeze it in the back of the flood
22:00:17 <Pyromaniac> All I need to do is edit Readme.txt and Help.html and compile with the new splash and its good to go...
22:01:22 <Pyromaniac> is that a possibility, or am I way over my head, JohnTHaller ?
22:01:46 <JohnTHaller> I have a hugely full plate atm, so I can't even think about what's coming when app-wise yet. Sorry, 4hrs sleep and all
22:02:06 <Pyromaniac> ah, I know how that feels :P
22:04:20 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
22:21:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)
22:21:23 <JohnTHaller> Anybody else around?
22:22:10 <Gizmokid2005> yes JohnTHaller
22:22:36 * gluxon is
22:30:02 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep
22:48:22 <JohnTHaller> later all. may peak back in later
22:48:25 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None)
22:55:35 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
23:11:00 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Quit: Page closed)
23:32:41 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving)
23:34:59 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps
23:35:14 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host)
23:35:14 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
23:49:15 *** srgsiler has quit (Quit: Leaving)
23:49:26 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps
23:49:41 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host)
23:49:41 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
23:55:19 *** srgsiler has quit (Quit: Leaving)
23:55:34 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps
23:55:45 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host)
23:55:45 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps
23:55:55 *** rouilj has quit (*.net *.split)
23:55:55 *** gluxon has quit (*.net *.split)
23:55:56 *** rouilj1 has quit (*.net *.split)
23:59:47 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps
23:59:48 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
23:59:48 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps