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02:24:22 <ChrisMorgan> Has anyone else tried uninstalling an app with PAP 2b5?
02:25:02 <ChrisMorgan> The uninstallation window isn't disappearing for me when it's finished. I can access the menu once more, but I'm stuck with a surplus window which I can't close.
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03:07:11 <SrgSiler|AFK> i still delete apps ye olde fashoned way o.o
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03:11:39 <ChrisMorgan> I just felt like trying it to see what would happen.
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05:39:57 <pa_7121> <ChrisMorgan> Has anyone else tried uninstalling an app with PAP 2b5?
05:40:14 <pa_7121> yes, it works fine for me (win xp home 32bit)
05:40:44 <ChrisMorgan> I've now done it three times, and two of those three times I've been left with the uninstallation window unclosed.
05:41:09 <pa_7121> i'll try some more....
05:41:36 <ChrisMorgan> It may also be something to do with switching windows so that that window is not the active one when it finishes.
05:41:58 <ChrisMorgan> I have been in the middle of running other installers too, but they don't touch the Platform until they've finished, and they hadn't when it did.
05:42:09 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for your report, pa_7121 :-)
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05:43:06 <pa_7121> i just uninstalled 5 apps using the 'uninstall' function... so far no issues
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05:43:17 <pa_7121> now to re-download them again :)
05:45:18 <ChrisMorgan> That's when you just install *one* app a number of phony times!
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05:47:02 <Gringoloco> Good idea, it's actually time for me to finally get rid of some apps
05:52:04 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
05:52:25 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I decided. A few of them had just been for testing - e.g. Audacity before release, and also a NSISu PR
05:54:53 <Gringoloco> Deleted +/- 10, just one problem for a non paf app
05:55:19 <Gringoloco> Message: Unable to uninstall %APPNAME%.
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05:56:37 <ChrisMorgan> That's not my issue, mine is the uninstall window not closing.
05:57:03 <Gringoloco> I know, I read the log
05:58:32 <Gringoloco> Did you read about the other bug I found in PAU?
06:00:27 <Gringoloco> In the 'handy utilities' topic
06:04:23 <ChrisMorgan> I did. Not sure /why/ you put it there, but ah well :-)
06:05:22 <Gringoloco> John asked me to put it in that topic. Anyway never heard of John after, I'm getting worried I did change something he's not happy about
06:06:55 <Gizmokid2005> Gringoloco: [16:52:27] <@JohnTHaller> hang on, gotta run... unexpected... please report in the test topic <-- might be why you haven't heard from him
06:07:54 <Gizmokid2005> that was just over 8 hours ago
06:08:13 <ChrisMorgan> After I had the uninstall window stuck open, I tried uninstalling another app. It worked, but the internal state was clearly messed up somewhat. It used the same window, but it wouldn't select properly so I had to use the keyboard. Interesting.
06:08:36 <Gringoloco> ... and he is still running ;-)
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06:08:52 <Gizmokid2005> probably...and I"m running to bed :) cya!
06:08:58 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco, sleep-walking, sleep-running, what's the difference? ;-)
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06:11:03 <Gringoloco> ChrisMorgan: You where right about creating XPaths in xml files, it's not-possible/very-difficult
06:11:29 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon we can leave that to the developer. Much safer.
06:12:29 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'm *finally* getting round to building Data Crow Portable 3.8.16. And all I still needed to do since last Monday was run the Generator over it and build the installer.
06:16:14 <Gringoloco> I also had a look at finding away to indicate if a file is utf-8, besides the BOM. But nsis is to slow (again)
06:16:59 <ChrisMorgan> Besides the BOM? Not possible. A reasonable guess could be made, but I wouldn't think it could really be done accurately. And it's too slow.
06:17:45 <Gringoloco> But probably it's not needed. PAI could just warn the user if the BOM is missing
06:19:27 <ChrisMorgan> What happens if the BOM isn't there?
06:19:58 <Gringoloco> The eala
06:20:56 <Gringoloco> The eula will be included as utf-8, with big possibillity of bad characters
06:22:03
06:24:54 <shanet> ChrisMorgan: A question was asked a while ago, I don't recall an answer being given. I think it is quite a good question, and has been picking at the back of my brain for a while. It is "How do you create a custom suite?". I am just wondering if you know the answer to this???
06:25:30 <ChrisMorgan> Simple answer: you don't. More complex answer: take a look at the Suite installer. Then probably decide that you'll just give up.
06:27:19 <shanet> Haha ok thx
06:29:09 <shanet> Have you trie3d doing one?
06:30:21 <ChrisMorgan> No.
06:31:37 <shanet> ok.
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07:00:01 <shanet> ChrisMorgan: I decided to take your second option and crack it open with 7-zip :P doesn't look that hard:)
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12:24:10 <pa_4541> help!
12:24:11 <GizmoBot> pa_4541: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
12:24:44 <pa_4541> just installed PA and GoogleChrome to my USB drive - but when I click on the Chrome icon to run it, nothing happens
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14:41:49 <rcmaehl> Is sourceforge having any problems because I'm having a very slow connection to it.
14:49:35 * rcmaehl will be testing the PAP on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (including all compatibility modes), Windows 7 Starter 32-bit (including all compatibility modes), and Windows XP Home Edition SP3 32-bit.
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15:02:05 <Gringoloco> ZachT
15:02:51 <Gringoloco> I hate it when I wanna press delete, but press enter :-(
15:03:16 <rcmaehl> Twoshay
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15:25:18 <Gringoloco> I feel sorry for the Armenian guy, he really did put a lot of work into the translating
15:29:23 <rcmaehl> Bugs/Glitches/Screenshots I've gotten: http://portableapps.com/node/24258#comment-154496
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15:32:37 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: if you'd going to post stuff in the forums, make sure the links work.
15:32:50 <rcmaehl> O_o
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15:33:03 <Gringoloco> Strange enough link should work, but site doesn't
15:33:24 <rcmaehl> What?
15:33:35 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: your links take you to some cyber-squatted site
15:33:38 <Gizmokid2005> not to screenshots
15:33:50 <Gizmokid2005> aaand now they work.
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15:34:40 <rcmaehl> ><
15:34:46 <rcmaehl> .htaccess failure
15:34:57 <rcmaehl> caused the problem earlier
15:36:37 <Gringoloco> Non of the comment/reply link of the second page of PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 (Leo) Beta 5 Testing are working
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15:38:02 <Gizmokid2005> Working for me Gringoloco
15:38:16 <Gringoloco> odd
15:39:28 <rcmaehl> O_o The up and down arrows on the language switcher don't work
15:39:44 <Gringoloco> Did you try any of the links added to day, like this one:http://portableapps.com/node/10491#comment-154490
15:40:57 <Gizmokid2005> Yup, works still Gringoloco
15:42:54 <Gringoloco> very odd, on my site some work, but just as many bring me back to the main topic
15:44:21 <rcmaehl> ><
15:44:30 <rcmaehl> It won't include my mouse in the screenshot
15:44:44 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: it's a windows feature
15:44:55 <Gizmokid2005> that's why you use Paint to add a box/etc to highlight what you want.
15:45:17 <Gringoloco> or draw the mouse arrow yourself :P
15:49:41 <rcmaehl> found another glitch
15:50:16 <rcmaehl> well same language switche glitch just with upload of image
16:12:14 <rcmaehl> http://portableapps.com/node/24258#comment-154502
16:13:34 <Gringoloco> rcmaehl: why is your link bringing me here: http://sprinterweb.net/notify/2.php
16:13:44 <rcmaehl> ><
16:13:55 <rcmaehl> I said I can't link directly to ir
16:13:58 <rcmaehl> it*
16:14:05 <rcmaehl> which means you have to type the link
16:14:10 <rcmaehl> not click on it
16:14:19 * rcmaehl headdesks
16:15:51 <Gizmokid2005> then maybe you should use a new hosting service rcmaehl
16:16:02 <Gizmokid2005> one that allows link clicks...
16:16:10 <rcmaehl> mine does
16:16:41 <Gizmokid2005> not if all your links are bringing us to that sprinterweb link again...
16:16:53 <rcmaehl> ><
16:17:35 <rcmaehl> O_o
16:17:42 <rcmaehl> Found the problem
16:17:49 <rcmaehl> Spammers
16:18:04 <rcmaehl> trying to DoS my site again
16:18:05 <Gringoloco> ...and avi is broken, only worked after vlc 'repaired' it
16:18:27 <rcmaehl> O_o\
16:19:24 <Gringoloco> rcmaehl: are the arrows only not working for you on Windows 7?
16:19:50 <rcmaehl> Doesn't seem to work on windows xp either
16:20:02 <rcmaehl> on an entirely different install
16:20:34 <Gringoloco> did you actually tried clicking on the arrow :P
16:21:04 <rcmaehl> ...
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16:24:09 <Gringoloco> could it be due to your usb-drive being bad?
16:28:07 <rcmaehl> no
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19:01:38 <pa_5740> I have a question.
19:01:57 <Gizmokid2005> ask away pa_5740
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19:02:54 <pa_5740> Can Skype only be used by one person? I hope this isn't a bad place to ask, but I can't find any place on the Skype website to answer this question.
19:03:34 <Gizmokid2005> what do you mean?
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19:06:19 <pa_5740> Before I answer that, is it a problem if I quote the Skype EULA?
19:06:24 <Gizmokid2005> no
19:06:48 <pa_5740> Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Skype hereby grants You a limited, personal, non-commercial, non-exclusive, non-sublicensable, non-assignable, free of charge license to download, install and use the Skype Software on Your computer
19:08:35 <pa_5740> Does this mean that only one person can use the copy of Skype that is installed?
19:08:46 <Gizmokid2005> no
19:09:03 <Gizmokid2005> it means that you can't take Skype and repackage/include/license it to someone else
19:10:58 <pa_5740> By "license it to someone else", you mean distribute the copy of Skype that you have to other users for their use?
19:11:44 <Gizmokid2005> You can't distribute it and say it's yours/etc...
19:11:53 <Gizmokid2005> it's all property of Skype and you can't specify otherwise.
19:12:06 <Gizmokid2005> you could send your friend the installer if you want...but you can't modify/license it at all
19:12:09 <Gizmokid2005> or charge for it and say it's yours
19:12:28 <pa_5740> Okay, thanks!
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