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01:25:50 <GizmoBot> pa_5740: I last saw zachthibeau at 2010-07-23 22:06:20 UTC on #portableapps
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02:50:42 <JohnTHaller> So I posted 7-Zip as a hybird x86/x64 portable app :)
02:54:06 <auscompgeek> :D
02:54:41 <JohnTHaller> 5 extra lines in the launcher, bit of extra total app size... and you get a 5-10% speed boost on x64 machines.
02:55:08 <auscompgeek> JohnTHaller: so, um, when's the next beta?
02:57:12 <JohnTHaller> when it's done
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02:57:35 <JohnTHaller> I only did 7-Zip because it had to be updated to support the updater. Figured I'd throw in an extra feature while I was working on it.
03:01:11 <auscompgeek> You always say that :P
03:01:33 <JohnTHaller> Because we're not gonna make guesstimate dates and miss em
03:02:55 <auscompgeek> heh, making sure you guys don't make the mistake M$ made? :D
03:03:05 <JohnTHaller> baasically
03:03:15 <auscompgeek> at least Firefox wasn't so bad
03:03:17 <JohnTHaller> beta 5 was late. and just posted 7 days ago, actually.
03:03:28 <JohnTHaller> so we're shooting for a new beta every week or two
03:03:30 <auscompgeek> yeah
03:03:36 <auscompgeek> I see.
03:05:08 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I see that, hopefully it updates unlike uTorrent
03:05:27 <JohnTHaller> uTorrent I just forgot to update the md5
03:05:28 <Gizmokid2005> I have 7-zip installed locally, and it is a bit faster I've noticed as x64
03:05:31 <JohnTHaller> I did with 7-zip
03:05:32 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
03:05:39 <Gizmokid2005> that'll do 'er I suppose
03:05:47 <Gizmokid2005> yay, updated :D
03:06:10 <Gizmokid2005> You know what would be neat JohnTHaller, but only in theory
03:06:21 <JohnTHaller> huh?
03:07:10 <Gizmokid2005> have an option for an "extra" database of apps, for those in beta testing, and have a few devs (something like those who were on the RT or something) have access to that DB to help update it, so we can install/update DT/PR apps the same way. (Like I said, only in theory it sounds cool...execution would be...tragic at best?)
03:07:42 <Gizmokid2005> I personally see it as like an "Extras-testing" and "Extras-devel" from Maemo...
03:07:57 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, no way I'm keeping that up to date. Plus many of them are on mediafire and other places that don't support direct downloads. which makes it a bit pointleess
03:08:00 <Gizmokid2005> probably not the most useful thing, but I could see it helping to get more testers of apps.
03:08:05 <Gizmokid2005> I agree
03:08:13 <Gizmokid2005> which is why I said it's a neat idea...but that's about it.
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03:34:28 <auscompgeek> No! JTH! Come back!
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03:43:28 <rcmaehl> nite all
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04:41:44 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
04:42:40 <computerfreaker> hey ChrisMorgan, do you know why the spam filter is eating every post I try to make? I'm not using any links or even any special formatting, but the filter keeps eating my submissions.
04:43:07 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. :-( What's it saying?
04:43:21 <ChrisMorgan> Is it saying it's Mollom doing it?
04:43:23 <computerfreaker> "Your submission has triggered the spam filter and will not be accepted."
04:43:37 <computerfreaker> No mention of Mollom, specifically.
04:44:31 <computerfreaker> I think the filter is picking up my posts because they're short; that's the only thing my 3 attempted posts and 1 attempted topic have in common.
04:45:18 <ChrisMorgan> If it were Mollom it'd give you a captcha if it were uncertain, it only blocks when it's sure it's spam.
04:45:33 <computerfreaker> no captcha, just a block message.
04:46:04 <ChrisMorgan> In the normal full Drupal page, or with the appearance of unformatted HTML?
04:46:27 <OliverK|Away> computerfreaker: screenshot, or it didn't happen :D
04:46:31 <ChrisMorgan> It may also be something to do with the http:bl module
04:46:31 <computerfreaker> it shows up above my post when I try hitting "Save"; it looks like part of the site
04:46:37 <ChrisMorgan> OK
04:46:43 <computerfreaker> OliverK|Away: give me 5 minutes and you'll get your screenshot.
04:46:53 <OliverK|Away> lol, I don't need it :D
04:47:19 <computerfreaker> maybe it'll help identify the problem, so I'll do it anyway.
04:47:26 <ChrisMorgan> But http:bl is a total blacklist, so it's the spam filter.
04:47:59 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure if John's got something else as well as Mollom (which he installed a couple of days ago). It doesn't make sense for it to be Mollom doing it, but it's possible that it is.
04:48:14 <ChrisMorgan> When did it start blocking you?
04:48:30 <computerfreaker> today, although I haven't posted for a day or two so it could have happened earlier.
04:48:54 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. Sounds likely to me that Mollom is for some reason the trigger :-(
04:49:03 <computerfreaker> http://i28.tinypic.com/ncfghj.png
04:49:06 <computerfreaker> that's the screenshot
04:49:32 <computerfreaker> http://pastebin.com/vKUeS1wT
04:49:42 <computerfreaker> that's one of the posts I tried
04:50:11 <OliverK|Away> computerfreaker: thanks, makes life easy
04:50:28 <computerfreaker> np
04:50:58 <OliverK|Away> k, is |away away
04:51:25 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: seems to me for some reason you've got a bad reputation with Mollom.
04:51:55 <computerfreaker> any idea why? My username comes up clean on every bothunting tool I've tried, and my e-mail address is private.
04:51:59 <computerfreaker> Could it be my IP?
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04:55:15 <ChrisMorgan> Just going though the thread at http://drupal.org/node/353588
04:55:55 <ChrisMorgan> But that issue of sending more than it should was at the time of 6.x-1.9, I presume John would have installed the latest, 6.x-1.13
04:58:05 <computerfreaker> Is there any chance you could whitelist me? Or do I need to go to Mollom and find out why they're blocking me?
04:59:29 <ChrisMorgan> It seems like we'd need to contact them about it.
05:00:07 <ChrisMorgan> How about I contact them about it?
05:00:39 <computerfreaker> ok, or I could do it if that would be better for you. I know you & John are both busy with other things atm.
05:02:19 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I think they should accept it from you. I don't have a portableapps.com email address either, so I can't easily "claim authority". Probably best to include a link to http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2010-07-24#T04-42-40 in so they see this discussion.
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05:03:39 <computerfreaker> ok, thanks. I'll contact them right now; hopefully they'll clear my reputation before I get back online on Tuesday.
05:03:46 <computerfreaker> Thanks for the help, Chris!
05:05:22 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'll need to report this to John too. And after I managed to convince him it would be good :-(
05:07:00 <computerfreaker> yeah, John will probably want to know about this, since there's also a good chance others are being blocked too, and either don't know about the IRC chan or just don't care enough to complain.
05:12:13 <computerfreaker> You've GOT to be kidding me!!!
05:12:37 <computerfreaker> The stinking Mollom contact form ate my e-mail: "Your submission has triggered the spam filter and will not be accepted."
05:13:55 <computerfreaker> I'm going to need somebody else to ask for me, because I don't have much of a chance unless I use a different username & e-mail address and a proxy, and that's going to look suspicious. Grrr...
05:16:08 <ChrisMorgan> !!
05:16:25 <ChrisMorgan> I suppose it would sorta make sense for that to happen...
05:16:48 <ChrisMorgan> It'll be because of the email address.
05:17:10 <computerfreaker> well, I do have a few others at my disposal. I'll try one of those.
05:17:20 <ChrisMorgan> You could put +eek at the end of your email address before the @
05:17:58 <ChrisMorgan> That's a technique which can be used with Gmail, username+anything-you-like@gmail.com goes to username@ and the anything-you-like can be used for filtering.
05:18:16 <computerfreaker> bleep, bleep, bleep. I just tried one of my other e-mail addresses and it got eaten, too.
05:18:26 <ChrisMorgan> I think that should be enough for the online service to not recognise it.
05:18:30 <computerfreaker> I'm inclined to suspect IP-based filtering at this point.
05:18:32 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. This isn't sounding good.
05:18:37 <computerfreaker> uh-uh.
05:20:10 <computerfreaker> well, I'll be danged. I just tried searching a dozen spambot databases for my IP and they *all* came up clean. What the heck?!?!?!
05:21:41 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know. I'll email them.
05:21:57 <computerfreaker> thanks, Chris. I really appreciate that.
05:22:15 * computerfreaker looks forward to being able to post on PortableApps.com again
05:22:34 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, forgot to include a link to the IRC logs. Ah well. If they email me in response to it I can mention it then.
05:22:39 <ChrisMorgan> (It didn't block me.)
05:22:51 <computerfreaker> that's good. Thank you!
05:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry for the bad experience you've had with it :-(
05:23:12 <computerfreaker> ah, no problem. Stuff happens.
05:30:13 <computerfreaker> It's pretty late, so I'm going to sign off now. I'll be offline for the whole weekend as well, probably until Tuesday. Hopefully my rep will be cleared by then so I can post some replies.
05:30:23 <computerfreaker> thanks for the help, ChrisMorgan!
05:30:36 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome.
05:30:42 <computerfreaker> bye!
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08:11:09 <pa_7683> is it ok to use the autoupdate on portable firefox or will that break it
08:12:41 <sar3th> pa_7683, the autoupdate which comes with firefox or the auto-update which comes with the portableapps platform 2 beta 5?
08:13:07 <pa_7683> the one that comes with standalone portable firefox
08:14:18 <sar3th> well, i'm not the expert for ff portable, but if i recall correctly, the built-in auto-update should be avoided, since it tends to break things
08:14:37 <pa_7683> i think thats right. thank you for helping me.
08:14:57 <sar3th> you're welcome :)
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09:58:08 <maurizio> help!
09:58:09 <GizmoBot> maurizio: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
09:59:30 <maurizio> could you please reccomend me a portable player compatible with ogg vorbis format?
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10:05:25 <pa_3609> maurizio: VLC Portable plays ogg vorbis i think
10:05:50 <pa_3609> http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/vlc_portable
10:06:34 <pa_3609> http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/coolplayerp_portable
10:06:43 <pa_3609> Cool Player does too
10:07:06 <maurizio> thanks, but I'm looking for hardware... :-)
10:07:53 <pa_3609> ooops sorry :)
10:08:16 <pa_3609> i dont know about hardware... maybe someone else can answer.
10:09:04 <maurizio> I've found for other rooms on freenode... but nothing, thanks a lot!
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10:47:51 <genodeftest> Hi @all, is there a reason that JKDefrag isnt updated to MyDefrag?
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18:14:00 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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18:24:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy Tim
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18:29:54 <TimClark_> Hello ZachThibeau , sorry about that WebCrap , well, crapped out :/
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18:50:34 <da-pc-guru> hello?
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18:55:27 <TimClark> Hello da
18:56:04 <da-pc-guru> hey
18:56:38 <da-pc-guru> are you a moderator
18:56:47 <TimClark> Yes
18:57:07 <TimClark> Or do you mean an Op here in the channel, I'm one of those too
18:57:36 <da-pc-guru> I was wandering if i am allowed to connect this websites work on my website via links
18:58:13 <TimClark> Do you mean Link to our homepage www.portableapps.com ?
18:58:27 <da-pc-guru> my website is www.da-pc-guru.co.nr
18:58:32 <da-pc-guru> no
18:58:35 <da-pc-guru> i mean
18:59:07 <da-pc-guru> i mean link to the websites apps via my apps
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18:59:27 <TimClark> Could you give an example ?
18:59:58 <TimClark> Do you mean link to a particular apps page, or to the download files themselves ?
19:00:03 <da-pc-guru> well what i have made so far, but not yet published on my website, is http://boxerboyuk.webs.com/iframe1/Portable%20Apps/Internet%20Apps.html
19:00:51 <TimClark> I see no problem with it
19:01:08 <da-pc-guru> ok
19:01:13 <da-pc-guru> thankyou for your time
19:01:33 <TimClark> though I think linking to the app listing page would make more sense and look nicer
19:01:44 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/apps
19:01:57 <da-pc-guru> well ia am going to make it look nicer eventually
19:02:19 <da-pc-guru> thats just a basic example i wanted to queery about
19:02:55 <TimClark> I see no problem with it
19:02:59 <da-pc-guru> ok
19:03:01 <da-pc-guru> thankyou
19:03:05 <da-pc-guru> bye
19:03:21 <TimClark> Your welcome, and good bye to you
19:03:29 <da-pc-guru> thankyou
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23:40:59 <awircser> Hi
23:41:37 <awircser> Gizmokid2005: is there a session manager for pidgin?
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23:58:20 <rcmaehl> I'm not sure if this is against the rules but I would like to request a repeal of my -ot ban.