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08:43:31 <shanet> hey
08:43:39 <shanet> got a question here
08:44:00 <shanet> just wondering if it is possible to make multiple launchers with the PAL?
08:46:40 <shanet> Gizmokid2005: Hey
08:46:52 <shanet> Gizmokid2005: You there?
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09:19:10 <Scriptdaemon> shanet, yes but it's not an automatic process.
09:19:40 <shanet> ok. Do you know how to do it?
09:20:13 <Scriptdaemon> You'd have to generate the launcher twice (or more), and rename the others to match the other parts of the app.
09:21:17 <Scriptdaemon> Also if you need multiple icons, you can take a look at how OpenOffice.org does its icons and appinfo file, or Maxima Portable in the forums.
09:22:05 <Scriptdaemon> I fear I must depart, but I hope that helps.
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09:23:30 <shanet> I have done it like openoffice.org
09:23:33 <shanet> (the icons)
09:23:50 <shanet> thanks
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13:35:20 <pa_4879> I just upgraded form thunderbird portable 2 to 3.1 and it freezes after about 1 minute running under windows 7 pro - anyone else experience this as well?
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13:53:15 <pa_6820> hello
13:53:43 <sar3th> hi pa_6820, how can we help you?
13:54:14 <pa_6820> I just installed the file "Java Portable Launcher at my USB-Stick
13:54:38 <pa_6820> When I want to open it there is an error:
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13:57:06 <pa_6820> Java Portable Launcher cannot be started.You may wish to re-install to fix this issue. (ERROR: Java Portable [PortableApps.com/JavaPortable] could not be found)
13:57:16 <pa_6820> What's wrong
13:57:37 <sar3th> you need both, Java Portable and the Java Portable Launcher
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13:58:12 <sar3th> pa_6820: java portable can be found here: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
13:59:03 <pa_6820> Ok i'll try it
13:59:10 <pa_6820> thank you for your help
13:59:19 <sar3th> you're welcome, good luck
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14:20:06 <pa_1458> hello
14:20:41 <pa_1458> I installed java portable and java portable launcher at my usb device but i can't start java portable launcher
14:22:43 <pa_1458> can somebody help me
14:24:04 <pa_1458> help!
14:24:05 <GizmoBot> pa_1458: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
14:24:32 <sar3th> pa_1458, did you get an error message?
14:24:38 <pa_1458> yes
14:24:45 <sar3th> which one?
14:26:17 <pa_1458> portable launcher cannot be started. You may wish to re-install the issue.(ERROR: Java portable launcher can not be found
14:27:17 <sar3th> hm, sorry, but i don't know what else to do
14:27:24 <sar3th> maybe someone else in here knows?
14:27:27 <pa_1458> ok thank you
14:27:31 <pa_1458> bye
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14:38:09 <pa_1149> sup
14:39:04 <sar3th> not much
14:39:16 <pa_1149> how can I launch Firefox NOT_portable AND FF_portable?
14:40:47 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1149: it's not /technically/ supported as firefox doesn't work like that
14:41:01 <Gizmokid2005> you can try allowing multiple instances as described in the Other\ folder
14:41:03 <Gizmokid2005> in the readme
14:41:21 <pa_1149> thank you, i'll watch
14:42:59 <pa_1149> ...I can't even find the Other\ folder o.o
14:43:10 <Gizmokid2005> it's in FirefoxPortable\Other\
14:43:38 <Gizmokid2005> then look in the Source\ folder
14:44:21 <pa_1149> ok
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14:52:13 <pa_1149> sorry, i've changed allowmultipleinstances to true, but it doesn't work
14:54:26 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not sure if it will anymore...it was a legacy feature in the days of 1.5
14:54:31 <Gizmokid2005> and 2.0
14:58:08 <pa_1149> i've read "copy firefoxportable.ini to the directory where the FirefoxPortable.exe is located", but it's already there! maybe to copy elsewhere? thank you
14:58:38 <Gizmokid2005> no, that's the only place that ini file will make a difference
14:58:54 <Gizmokid2005> but if it doesn't work, it just doesn't. Firefox has mechanisms built-in now i believe to prevent multiple instances
15:00:41 <pa_1149> ok, understood, greetings
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16:40:48 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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16:53:29 <JohnTHaller> Hola
16:53:37 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
16:53:41 <Gizmokid2005> how goes it?
16:53:56 <JohnTHaller> I'm tweaking site badges. Marko has em all, so check this post out: http://portableapps.com/node/23795
16:54:21 <Gizmokid2005> There a bit less intrusive than the others were
16:54:34 <JohnTHaller> Only supported one before. Now you can have multiple, too
16:54:59 <Gizmokid2005> ofc, I'm sure you know the "links" are broke fromt he images
16:55:01 <Gizmokid2005> *from the
16:55:05 <Gizmokid2005> it's definitely neat
16:55:08 <JohnTHaller> huh?
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16:55:14 <Gizmokid2005> click on one of the badges
16:55:29 <JohnTHaller> Ah, it didn't handle the anchor... annoying.
16:56:18 <Gizmokid2005> typical isn't it?
16:56:25 <JohnTHaller> fixed it
16:56:41 <Gizmokid2005> can you fix the http://portableapps.com/songbirdportable redirect too? Still 404'ing
16:57:08 <Gizmokid2005> and now they work. That's neat JohnTHaller, I like how it links to the about page...thta's really cool
16:57:30 <JohnTHaller> fixed
16:57:37 <Gizmokid2005> thanks again :)
16:58:29 <Gizmokid2005> have you seen this JohnTHaller? http://www.tightvnc.com/portable/ I checked it out, it seems they were only going for the U3 spec with...I emailed their address about a week ago and haven't heard anything back...and the source for their "launcher" isn't there...
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16:59:42 <Gizmokid2005> It seems they did with the portable version, what X-Chat did with the windows build.
17:06:19 <JohnTHaller> I tweaked the badges reload em: http://portableapps.com/node/23795
17:06:50 <Gizmokid2005> don't see much of a difference JohnTHaller
17:07:24 <JohnTHaller> minor contrast tweaks. Trying to make em as clear as possible
17:07:45 <Gizmokid2005> the translators one is still a bit hard to make out...but that's not much space to work with either.
17:08:00 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I'm working on that one still. I think the other 3 are pretty solid
17:08:05 <Gizmokid2005> yep
17:08:07 <Gizmokid2005> I'll agree with that
17:09:40 <JohnTHaller> alright, think I got it. reload
17:09:57 <sar3th> nice
17:10:02 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, I like that one
17:10:11 <Gizmokid2005> maybe just make the flag one color though?
17:10:17 <Gizmokid2005> instead of trying to shove the icon in it?
17:10:22 <JohnTHaller> Took a similar flag one and desaturated. lightened up the flag.
17:10:59 <JohnTHaller> It doesn't matter you can't distinguish the icon. It helps it look more like a flag with something on it. which is kinda a hint towards the full-size version
17:11:11 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, I suppose
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17:19:23 <JohnTHaller> Ok, finalized em and one final tweak to balance the spacing. And announced: http://portableapps.com/node/24377
17:21:05 <Gizmokid2005> Looks good JohnTHaller :)
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17:52:50 <pa_1176> Hello All, I have One question today. Would it be possible to copy the Portable Firefox's settings, addons, and passwords to a local install of firefox easily?
17:53:11 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1176: relatively, yes.
17:53:19 <pa_1176> How so Gizmokid2005 ?
17:53:19 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Do this, just reverse the directories: http://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#local_profile
17:53:37 <pa_1176> Thanks JohnTHaller
17:53:42 <JohnTHaller> Note that a couple extensions may have issues after the move.
17:53:43 <pa_1176> Always on top of things you are.
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17:56:34 <Oni-Neoxes> So How goes everyones day so far?
17:58:38 <JohnTHaller> Not bad. Couple site updates. Working on Beta 6
18:00:04 <Gizmokid2005> Not too bad here either. Just working and cleaning up the computer desk. I'm going to be taming the mess of cables I have and putting a fish tank on my desk between my monitors...
18:00:17 <Gizmokid2005> speaking of which, now that I've heard from my boss I can go do some errands...so I'll be back later :D
18:00:47 <Oni-Neoxes> Awesome. Beta 5 is Beutiful but there is one thing that bugs me. Opening the Portableapps menu causes a window-esk thing to appear on the taskbar
18:00:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice Gizmo
18:02:41 <JohnTHaller> Oni-Neoxes: It's a known bug and honestly just a simple cosmetic issue.
18:07:30 <JohnTHaller> anybody have any thoughts on the 64-bit apps blog post?
18:09:58 <Oni-Neoxes> I have none
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18:16:28 <sar3th> well, i noticed that you claim that the performance boost is small, and then introduce 7z portable x64 with the argument "performance boost of 5-10%", some people could find that inconsistent
18:18:02 <JohnTHaller> re-worded the pro. reload
18:18:18 <JohnTHaller> Very few everyday apps benefit, some even get slower
18:21:41 <sar3th> good
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19:00:49 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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19:15:01 <pa_5740> ZachThibeau: When you said "not really a bug more or less an incompatibility with the win32 platform", how do you mean? Could you expand on this please?
19:16:32 <pa_5740> ZachThibeau: This is in regards to your post on my thread concerning PChat.
19:16:54 <ZachThibeau> meaning the transparency is a linux feature, my code is using the original linux sources of XChat but compiled on linux, so some of the code while yes it will compile but may not work on windows
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19:17:30 <pa_5740> Ok.
19:18:22 <ZachThibeau> and like I said it will be disabled for the win32 build in the next release that I am working on
19:20:23 <pa_5740> Ok, thanks for your help! :)
19:20:27 <pa_5740> Bye!
19:20:34 <ZachThibeau> np
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21:21:27 <pa_8066> how can i extract the paf files onb windows 7?
21:21:43 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8066: just double-click on the file
21:22:00 <Gizmokid2005> it should be .paf.exe (though most computers will hide the ".exe" by default because it's a known extension)
21:22:28 <pa_8066> I know I can double click it, but my computer has a trojan and it's not letting me install anything
21:22:36 <pa_8066> I need to extract the files instead
21:22:44 <Gizmokid2005> then you need to clean up the infection...you can extract them with 7z though
21:22:46 <Gizmokid2005> 7zip that is
21:22:52 <Gizmokid2005> I believe that will extract all of our installers
21:22:57 <sar3th> uhm, how about removing your malware first?
21:23:03 <sar3th> oh sorry, i am late :X
21:23:19 <pa_8066> yeah, nbut thta's what I can't do because exe files are unable to be launched
21:23:43 <gluxon> pa_8066: If you extract that, chances are, the virus will attach itself to the PortableApp and infect other computers you go on.
21:23:56 <pa_8066> I am only using it here
21:24:47 <gluxon> I would clean up that virus first.
21:25:04 <gluxon> If the virus isn't letting you run the install, it's not going to let you run the app either.
21:25:40 <gluxon> It probably won't even let you run the extractor.
21:28:53 <gluxon> pa_8066: Can you enable known file extensions to be seen by explorer?
21:29:17 <gluxon> You can do this by pressing Win + E then Alt
21:29:33 <gluxon> Choose Tools --> Folder Options...
21:31:34 <gluxon> Click on the "View" tab and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"
21:32:03 <gluxon> Rename the installer from AppNamePortable_Version_.paf.exe to AppNamePortable_Version_.paf.cmd
21:32:12 <gluxon> Aka, get rid of .exe and replace it with .cmd
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21:48:53 <gluxon> Well that was a waste of time >_<
21:49:06 * gluxon just wrote 10+ lines for nothing
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22:11:21 <Gizmokid2005> no gluxon, just look at the timestamps...he was around for all of them.
22:11:50 <gluxon> .. oh
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23:12:28 <pa_3355> help
23:12:28 <GizmoBot> pa_3355: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
23:14:58 <pa_3355> hello. I have been using portable apps on Vista and works fine. I tried it on 7 and I have problem.it takes too much time to load the application.Does anyone know how to fix it?
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23:17:30 <ChrisMorgan> pa_3355: have you started it on Windows 7? It can't autorun there.
23:20:19 <pa_3355> Actually I was using it on 7 for a wile ,but I had to reinstall windows,hard drive crased .Now I am trying to use it and I have the problem I said
23:27:16 <pa_3355> ZachThibeau.do you have any suggestion?
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23:28:04 <ChrisMorgan> pa_3355: I don't understand what has changed.
23:30:15 <pa_3355> neither do I.everything was fine and it continues to work in vista
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23:32:48 <ChrisMorgan> What specifically is slow?
23:43:04 <pa_3355> All the program .Also I noticed that any portable programm I tried to run has the same behavior.
23:43:19 <ChrisMorgan> Which program?
23:46:06 <pa_3355> bs player, Vlc ,fast viewer
23:46:38 <pa_3355> Sm player sorry
23:49:07 <pa_3355> i also tried to uninstall and reinstall it. The same .I like this program a lot. I have it on usb also.It would be greate to help me
23:51:23 <ChrisMorgan> What are you running it from - a USB Disk?
23:53:00 <pa_3355> From 7.I have installed it to c:/
23:53:27 <ChrisMorgan> Where in there - Program Files or another directory?
23:54:54 <pa_3355> in hard drive c:/ in a file
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