IRC Log from 2010-07-27

00:00:07 <pa_3355> well somethink is going on with 7 but I can't find it. that what happens with windows. I am curious to see the os from mozilla
00:06:22 <ChrisMorgan> In a file? I'm asking what directory you've installed it to. If it's not Program Files it's probably OK.
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00:08:31 <pa_3355> C:\Αυτόνομα Προγράμματα 7\portableApplications
00:12:11 <ChrisMorgan> For reference, some apps won't work (or won't work properly) from Unicode paths. That's unlikely to be your issue here though.
00:12:20 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not sure what the issue could be.
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00:14:54 <pa_3355> ok thank a lot
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00:44:14 <pa_5740> Concerning PChat Portable, if I set it to log these chats, will it have bad effects on my USB drive?
00:44:57 <pa_5740> Like shortening the life of it due to writing to that file every so often,
00:45:43 <ChrisMorgan> Not noticeably.
00:46:26 <pa_5740> Meaning?.......
00:47:47 <pa_5740> I don't mean that in any terse manner, it's just that I'd like to keep my USB drive in as good of condition I can within reason.
00:48:32 <pa_5740> Because I have both portable apps & bootable OSes on my USB drive.
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02:29:29 <Mir> haha
02:29:39 <Mir> found my 10 year old thumbdrive
02:29:44 <Mir> ^-^
02:29:49 <Mir> still works
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04:19:15 <Gringoloco> odd :?
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15:33:23 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:50:47 <pa_5502> how can i put my own app into the app menu?
15:51:51 <Bensawsome> pa_5502 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
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15:55:45 <pa_5502> and when i want to link an app in another folder?
15:55:51 <pa_5502> for example... xampp?
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16:10:49 <pa_5502> any idea?
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16:37:27 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
16:40:45 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5502: you mean like a symlink?
16:41:16 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5502: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link they're machine specific I do believe
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20:37:03 <xiaozong> Hello?
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20:40:13 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: BTW, did you look at my thread here? (http://portableapps.com/node/24347)
20:40:42 <Gizmokid2005> nope, but I can't do anything about it anyways pa_5740
20:41:31 <pa_5740> Ok, I just thought that might be something that you guys might want to look into.
20:45:00 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: Of the people that show up here, which of these develop the updater for the PA.com suite?
20:45:09 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller
20:45:27 <pa_5740> So I would ask him?
20:46:14 <pa_5740> Gizmokid2005: Or rather, he's the one I would talk with about this?
20:46:27 <Gizmokid2005> yup
20:48:49 <pa_5740> BTW, I was reading the logs for today and I have to wonder: what was going on?
20:49:30 <pa_5740> In regards with Gizmobot & everybody else looging off at the same time
20:49:38 <pa_5740> & stuff like that.
20:49:53 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5740: it's called a netsplit
20:49:55 <Gizmokid2005> .wik NetSplit
20:49:56 <GizmoBot> "Start the NetSplit article, using the Article Wizard if you wish, or add a request for it." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetSplit
20:50:00 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
20:50:19 <Gizmokid2005> .wik Netsplit
20:50:19 <GizmoBot> "In computer networking, specifically Internet Relay Chat (IRC), netsplit is a term used to describe the disconnection of a given node from the previously established network or between two nodes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
20:50:24 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ there you go pa_5740
20:51:14 <pa_5740> Ok. I guess this was something up with freenode.
20:51:18 <Gizmokid2005> yep
20:51:22 <Gizmokid2005> they are working on it.
20:51:40 <pa_5740> let's just say I'm not too familar with things like nodes.
20:51:50 <xiaozong> I have a really simple quesiton.. :)
20:52:03 <pa_5740> which is?
20:53:01 <xiaozong> can you install any program to your flash drive with this program?
20:53:16 <pa_5740> what's the program?
20:53:28 <Gizmokid2005> xiaozong: no.
20:53:32 <Gizmokid2005> that's not how it's designed.
20:53:44 <Gizmokid2005> .def addingapps
20:53:44 <GizmoBot> addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details.
20:53:48 <xiaozong> conquer online 2.0
20:53:50 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ that might help though xiaozong
20:54:19 <xiaozong> yeah i just wasnt sure if the ap haad to be portable
20:54:29 <pa_5740> xiaozong: Oh, you mean the portableapps.com suite.
20:54:36 <xiaozong> so yeah
20:54:42 <Gizmokid2005> xiaozong: it should be portable itself to at least work in a "portable" environment
20:55:20 <xiaozong> so if its, say for example, photoshop, it wouldnt work?
20:55:33 <Gizmokid2005> right
20:55:53 <Gizmokid2005> if the app uses the registry to store settings, or uses local folders like %APPDATA%, etc...it won't work without being portablized
20:56:02 <xiaozong> ahh... is there a way to make it portable?
20:56:12 <Gizmokid2005> well...it will probably /run/ in most cases, but won't retain settings, and it will leave information behind
20:56:53 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
20:56:53 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
20:56:58 <xiaozong> oh ok, well that wouldn't make me too worried
20:57:04 <Gizmokid2005> xiaozong: yes, look at that ^^, it'll help with portablizing.
20:57:17 <xiaozong> ok.
20:57:25 <Gizmokid2005> you can use the PortableApps.comLauncher now to make the app portable though instead of writing code for it. You can read its' manual for help as well
20:57:48 <xiaozong> so it is "possible" to make any software portable, right?
20:58:06 <pa_5740> Well, that depends.......
20:58:17 <Gizmokid2005> No.
20:58:33 <Gizmokid2005> some software is impossible to portabilize because of how it integrates with the system
20:58:35 <xiaozong> hmm i figured... software(s) are all different..
20:58:37 <Gizmokid2005> such as MANY microsoft products
20:58:43 <pa_5740> :)
20:59:02 <xiaozong> haha
20:59:03 <Gizmokid2005> but some can be made portable, but it's illegal due to the licensing restrictions/EULA
20:59:27 <pa_5740> What about the Sysinternals kit?
20:59:28 <xiaozong> so no portable Word or PowerPoint, eh?
20:59:44 <pa_5740> No, but there is Openoffice.org
21:00:01 <Gizmokid2005> xiaozong: no, but you can use OO.org like pa_5740 said
21:00:13 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5740: I'm not sure, iirc there are Dev Tests in the forums of those, but I don't recall
21:00:25 <xiaozong> ok
21:00:56 <pa_5740> xiaozong: Does that answer your question?
21:08:33 <pa_5740> xiaozong: BTW, you might want to check their EULA, just in case it forbids doing such.
21:08:58 <pa_5740> xiaozong: I mean the Conquer Online EULA
21:09:01 <xiaozong> yes sort of. thanks
21:10:56 <pa_5740> xiaozong: How do you mean "sort of", if you don't mind my asking?
21:12:20 <xiaozong> well i meant yes. the sort of just meant that im probabbly going to spend the rest of the day trying to make conquer online prtable :D
21:12:36 <xiaozong> if it's permitted of course
21:13:25 <pa_5740> Ok, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything left unanswered. :)
21:13:59 <xiaozong> Well the main reason why I'm trying to do that is because I use a Mac. Conquer isn't made for mac, but ive had Parallels for quite some time so I decided to install it there..
21:14:46 <xiaozong> Buuut i ran into some trouble while trying to do so. "error: file directory does not exixt"
21:15:17 <xiaozong> it's done that before, with windows live messenger.
21:15:20 <Gizmokid2005> xiaozong: check this out too.........http://portableapps.com/development
21:15:24 <Gizmokid2005> it should help a bit more as well
21:15:29 <Gizmokid2005> that's the full spec and lots of good info
21:15:41 <xiaozong> kk
21:16:23 <xiaozong> and I heard somewhere that you can run software without installing it; from a flash drive, so here I am...
21:20:40 <pa_5740> Well, I'm not at all familiar with Parallels, but if you want a game that's already portable, there's Warzone 2100.
21:21:04 <pa_5740> Not that it helps with your situation, but that might be fun too.
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21:38:42 <xiaozong> Ok, so what about that PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0. i read that that helps making apps portable?
21:46:13 <sar3th> yes
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