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03:57:51 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
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08:15:52 <Drive-Dude> Hi I wante to ask. How can I add GAP to GIMP Portable?
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08:26:34 <beppegg> Goodmorning :)
08:26:50 <auscompgeek> evening :D
08:27:15 <beppegg> :P I forget I'm chatting with worldwide people :D
08:27:40 <auscompgeek> lol
08:28:54 <beppegg> I've come just to ask a "procedural" thing: what's the procedure for building launchers for closed-source, commercial applications?
08:28:57 <Drive-Dude> Yeah You are
08:29:08 <beppegg> (with permission of Owners :P)
08:29:25 <beppegg> I still have to open a thread in beta test with releases?
08:29:42 <beppegg> hi Drive-Dude!
08:29:44 <beppegg> :)
08:29:55 <Drive-Dude> Where are you from
08:30:07 <beppegg> I'm from Italy, and what about you?
08:31:30 <Drive-Dude> I was born i Bosna. But I been living i Sweden next 18 years almost 19 years
08:32:40 <beppegg> Sweden is cool :)
08:33:15 <Drive-Dude> Yeah I know. Maybe I should visit
08:33:41 <Drive-Dude> misspelled
08:33:51 <beppegg> :P
08:33:54 <Drive-Dude> Yeah I know. Maybe you should visit
08:34:00 <Drive-Dude> My bad
08:34:16 <beppegg> ;)
08:34:22 <beppegg> don't worry :)
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09:49:49 <pa_9949> hello, everyone here! is it possible to move the starportableapps.exe to the same folder of the apps installed? thanks very much
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10:01:20 <benedikt93> pa_9949, AFAIK no, the paths to the apps and some data used by would change then, and you would have to modify this in its source and recompile it
10:10:28 <pa_9949> benedikt93, I c! Thanks very much!
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12:21:20 <TASAIRES> Hello! i are from Spain
12:22:12 <TASAIRES> like make One Ask! There any BZFlag Protrable for PenDrinve USB??
12:22:35 <TASAIRES> sorry, i like say; Portable
12:23:17 <TASAIRES> Thanks to Alls Team form PortableApps
12:24:16 <ChrisMorgan> For such questions, the search functionality is helpful: http://portableapps.com/search/node/BZFlag
12:25:22 <ChrisMorgan> It seems like it was requested twice in 2006 and nothing really since
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12:25:26 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
12:25:35 <ChrisMorgan> I would recommend that you request it in the Request Apps forum.
12:26:18 <TASAIRES> ChrisMorgan: many Thanks! i go to this URL ...
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12:33:31 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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12:40:13 <tuttincoro> hullo
12:40:19 <tuttincoro> anyone here now?
12:40:40 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: hello
12:40:58 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: here there any!
12:41:06 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: ;)
12:41:08 <tuttincoro> good good
12:41:21 <tuttincoro> first, lemme say the portable apps are awesome
12:41:51 <tuttincoro> i work in computer repair; its really handy to have them
12:41:52 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: i are usin now apps from my usb device
12:42:06 <tuttincoro> yeh
12:42:08 <TASAIRES> include this irc chat, with pchat
12:42:11 <tuttincoro> problem is this
12:42:25 <tuttincoro> i encounter pcs with viruses now and then
12:42:48 <tuttincoro> is it possible to lock my usb device?
12:42:57 <tuttincoro> or in any way to protect it from infection?
12:43:47 <TASAIRES> the usb is Read/Write Device! and the Solution , i know..
12:44:33 <TASAIRES> there any protetions to virus for usb, But from PC, and lock us autorun, and Not Know None from USB,
12:44:34 <tuttincoro> years ago i had a usb stick with a "lock" option
12:45:02 <tuttincoro> i tried clamwin
12:45:07 <tuttincoro> but it sucks, to be honest
12:45:09 <TASAIRES> you solution is using Linux Live CD, from USB or Media DVD/CD
12:45:20 <TASAIRES> nfrom DVD/CD is more Secure!
12:45:53 <tuttincoro> used to use linux
12:46:03 <TASAIRES> protableapps not have more solution to that
12:46:06 <tuttincoro> its not too useful for more complex problems
12:46:23 <tuttincoro> i use a live linux cd to remove passwords in windows
12:46:39 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: i Recomen Knoppix by example
12:46:50 <tuttincoro> yes, i used knoppix
12:47:06 <TASAIRES> run from CD or DVD! I Use DVD , but not alls PC have DVD device
12:47:07 <tuttincoro> knoppix, ubuntu, mint, damn small linux, puppy linux
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12:48:36 <TASAIRES> Knoppix for me is better, is based on "Debian" and not on Unbutu, and have more apps to work how Altenete OS to Rescue!
12:48:47 <tuttincoro> well, ubuntu is debian
12:49:01 <TASAIRES> i using DVD 6.2 on any ocasions
12:49:08 <TASAIRES> i using DVD 6.2 on any moment
12:49:16 <tuttincoro> TASAIRES, it is not enough for me
12:49:28 <tuttincoro> TASAIRES, like i say, linux isn't good for solving complex windows problems
12:49:32 <TASAIRES> Include to play and to protect from Virus on other PC
12:49:36 <tuttincoro> TASAIRES, and the live cd doesn't always work
12:50:31 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: for this i recomend Knoppix, and not alls thes you say me "puppy, unbutu, etc"
12:51:40 <TASAIRES> there too Free Live CD, from cormecial antivirus, that run from Live CD linux and can desinfecte 1st Virus
12:52:05 <TASAIRES> and then run Windows OS, and run Portableapps USB
12:53:36 <TASAIRES> From Linux Knoppix Live DVD, too can run PortableApps from usb, with Wine! "Wine Not is A Emulator" for run many apps for Windos
12:53:57 <TASAIRES> from secure method
12:54:16 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: OK!?
12:54:26 <tuttincoro> ok
12:55:17 <TASAIRES> OnCrap is a apps that you can download from live CD, that include a Slax Linux,
12:55:51 <TASAIRES> Is bad IDEA only get 1 apps with a Full OS on Live CD!
12:56:24 <TASAIRES> there many apps, and good liveCD need many to can be versatile
12:56:46 <TASAIRES> I gone to eat! ByE
12:56:57 <TASAIRES> tuttincoro: Bye! :)
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13:07:06 <ChrisMorgan> tuttincoro: there's not really any way to lock the drive if it doesn't have a physical switch for it.
13:07:31 <tuttincoro> ChrisMorgan, seems so
13:07:44 <tuttincoro> ChrisMorgan, how would encryption work?
13:08:58 <ChrisMorgan> It depends. If you've got admin rights on every computer you can run software to mount a volume to a drive letter, or with or without admin you can use "explorer" software which means you can browse the files, copy in and out and things like that. But you can't edit the files in-place.
13:09:15 <ChrisMorgan> Or there's hardware based encryption, but that requires you to have a drive supporting that.
13:10:11 <tuttincoro> would a guest account hinder usb stick infection?
13:12:00 <ChrisMorgan> No. It won't change anything really. The disk will still be mounted and so anything (local) can access it.
13:13:34 <tuttincoro> but maybe i can encrypt folders with my portable apps, so a virus won't detect its an .exe and infect it?
13:15:12 <ChrisMorgan> Think about it - if you want to run it, it's got to be an executable.
13:15:38 <tuttincoro> yeh
13:15:51 <Gizmokid2005> tuttincoro: it really depends.
13:15:54 <ChrisMorgan> Getting encryption to work across computers can't work on a folder basis. What you end up with is a single file which is essentially a virtual disk, encrypted.
13:16:06 <Gizmokid2005> Some encryprtion apps can read/write the encrypted info without administrator
13:16:16 <Gizmokid2005> others can only read (which would solve the infection thing, but cause other issues)
13:16:23 <Gizmokid2005> and others won't work at all without admin priveleges.
13:16:42 <tuttincoro> its been bugging me for a while
13:16:54 <tuttincoro> it got bad last week when i worked on a pc that had zpharoah on it
13:17:03 <tuttincoro> thing infected every .exe on my usb stick
13:17:13 <tuttincoro> wasn't even work cleaning; just did a format
13:17:24 <tuttincoro> luckily I keep a backup of my usb stick
13:18:09 <tuttincoro> work=worth
13:19:23 <ChrisMorgan> For example, with FreeOTFE, you can mount the encrypted disk with admin, or just use it without mounting it - read and write works, but you will need to copy files in and out to work with them - with FreeOTFE Explorer.
13:20:35 <ChrisMorgan> If it is mounted to a drive letter, you can run apps from it, but then malware can get to it too. If it's not mounted to a drive letter, you can't run apps from it.
13:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> And all that malware can do is destroy the entire thing, not individual things in it.
13:21:34 <tuttincoro> yeah
13:21:36 <tuttincoro> i
13:21:42 <tuttincoro> i've sorta got a solution
13:21:45 <tuttincoro> not an ideal one
13:22:06 <tuttincoro> i found two .reg hacks which enable/disable writing to usb
13:22:27 <tuttincoro> i'll burn them to a cd-r, load them up on a new infected pc, then afterwards use my usb stick
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13:33:24 <ChrisMorgan> Be aware that many of our apps don't support "Live mode" (running from CD).
13:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> CD/read only medium
13:33:57 <tuttincoro> yes i know
13:34:05 <tuttincoro> i just want the .reg files on the cd-r
13:45:19 <ChrisMorgan> If writing to USB is disabled, a USB disk becomes a read-only medium.
13:52:12 <tuttincoro> oh, misunderstood
13:52:19 <tuttincoro> thats fine
13:52:31 <tuttincoro> i can copy them to the infected host pc anyway to use them
13:52:40 <tuttincoro> while my usb stick remains undamaged
13:54:33 <ChrisMorgan> Be aware that you should maintain the same installation /directory/ if copying locally. Meaning, copy X:\PortableApps to C:\PortableApps, not to C:\Users\user\Desktop\PortableApps.
13:54:45 <ChrisMorgan> Some apps will not work if the directory gets changed.
13:58:01 <tuttincoro> yep, i realize that, thnx
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15:10:13 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
15:10:59 <ZachThibeau> sar3th|vacation: you lurking about?
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18:37:19 <PatrickPatience> Well hello.
18:42:15 <chazz> hellooooooo there PatrickPatience
18:42:42 <PatrickPatience> So how 'bout that SMPlayer Portable being kinda popular.
18:43:29 <PatrickPatience> Bahaha.
18:43:43 <PatrickPatience> So guess... guess how many times palogbot has been restarted.
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18:53:00 <chazz> 300?
18:53:09 <chazz> eh
18:53:11 <chazz> he left
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19:17:43 <pa_5740> Bensawsome: Concerning the message on your site, what necessitated the hosting of the site on your PC?
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19:48:21 <Gringoloco> Spam: http://portableapps.com/node/19346#comment-155802
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20:06:36 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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23:45:19 <rcmaehl> Help
23:46:03 <auscompgeek> what kind of help?
23:46:10 <auscompgeek> :D
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23:48:05 <rcmaehl> Is there a way to edit the PAP to display files other than just .paf.exe and .exe
23:48:06
23:48:58 <auscompgeek> If you have Delphi, yes, else no :P
23:49:00 <auscompgeek> afaik
23:49:03
23:49:07 <rcmaehl> WHAT?
23:49:21 <rcmaehl> what'ss delphi?
23:49:40 <chazz> the language PAP is programmed in
23:49:50 <rcmaehl> is it free?
23:49:52 <chazz> no
23:49:54 <auscompgeek> no
23:50:05 <auscompgeek> I swear there's an echo in here...
23:50:05 <rcmaehl> can't i just edit the .exe using a binary editor?
23:50:29 <chazz> probably not.
23:50:47 <auscompgeek> That'd get too complicated...
23:50:50 <chazz> You're more than welcome to try, but please don't complain to us if it doesn't work. :)
23:51:52 <rcmaehl> Well, maybe you could add displaying files other than .exe and .paf.exe to like PAP 2.5 or something for files like important documents
23:53:42 <auscompgeek> I think there's a trick for displaying custom links in the menu...
23:53:50 <auscompgeek> It's somewhere in the forums...
23:54:53 <rcmaehl> :(
23:55:01 <rcmaehl> I don't like searching the forums