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00:17:07 <rcmaehl-linux> You guys did a great job on the 2.0beta. It looks great in wine.
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00:26:57 <awircser> what's the latest firefox beta?
00:29:37 <rcmaehl-linux> 4.0
00:29:39 <rcmaehl-linux> I think
00:30:34 <gluxon> awircser: Firefox 4 Beta 2.
00:30:46 <gluxon> Beta 3's suppose to come out on the 13th I think.
00:31:21 <awircser> Is it good? have you tried it?
00:31:41 <gluxon> Beta 2? Yeah it is :)
00:32:09 <gluxon> There's a lot of improvement from 3.6, and it seems really stable.
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01:38:55 <pa_5740> Any idea when PortableApps.com suite Beta 6 comes out?
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01:42:21 <pa_5740> .tell computerfreaker BTW, to leave me a message, type .tell pa_5740 <your response here>
01:42:22 <GizmoBot> pa_5740: I'll pass that on when computerfreaker is around.
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01:47:34 <rcmaehl-linux> O_o
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02:49:27 <daniel2> Hi
02:49:54 <daniel2> I know that this is just portable apps question but I have a question about itunes
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02:56:29 <daniel2> Hi
02:59:11 <Gizmokid2005> daniel2: not really the place to get your question answered
02:59:19 <Gizmokid2005> we're the portableapps support room, not itunes
02:59:55 <daniel2> So do you know where
03:00:31 <daniel2> Is just the everytime I put a mp3 cd my computer loads media player when itunes is the default
03:01:17 <Gizmokid2005> you just have to change it in your default programs settings
03:01:23 <Gizmokid2005> which varies depending on your windows version
03:04:34 <daniel2> Like I only see media player in the autoplay options for music cd
03:04:46 <daniel2> Thanks for any of your help
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03:49:59 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
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04:33:30 <pa_4847> hey
04:33:47 <pa_4847> having an issue with my portable apps crashing
04:34:11 <pa_4847> I cannot have more than one app running at a time
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16:33:09 <pa_2260> hello, I have a quick question about legacy versions of firefox portable. Will FF2 portable install in 64-bit Windows 7?
16:38:54 <Bensawsome> pa_2260 its not supported but you can try.
16:39:03 <Bensawsome> we really wouldnt know....
16:39:12 <Bensawsome> unless someone tried it.
16:39:16 <Mir> iirc its compiled to 32 bit
16:39:24 <Mir> it may work but wont be as stable
16:39:25 <Bensawsome> mhmm
16:39:29 <Mir> or as fast
16:39:35 <Gizmokid2005> it will be stable
16:39:37 <Gizmokid2005> and it should work just fine
16:39:43 <Gizmokid2005> it's just a standard 32-bit app
16:39:55 <Gizmokid2005> you should have no issues pa_2260, but be warned it's past it's EOL with mozilla
16:40:24 <Mir> listen to the giz wiz
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16:46:54 <pa_5123> hi all, i scanned my computer a week ago and found a trojan horse in the utility ConvertAll - don't know who to talk to about this but thought someone should know
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16:47:01 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
16:49:01 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5123: it's a false positive
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18:30:51 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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18:36:04 <Delano> greetz
18:44:12 <gluxon> Delano: Hello.
18:44:34 <Delano> I wanna clarify something
18:45:12 <Delano> Do you only use apps which are packaged as portable, or do you accept apps that are not but can be modified, with wrappers, or by simply using the executable after an install?
18:47:31 <gluxon> Apps that are official must be in paf format, and have the correct file structure.
18:47:42 <gluxon> All data has to going into the \Data folder.
18:48:27 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
18:49:48 <Delano> Alrighty
18:49:55 <Delano> Can I make a suggestion?
18:51:02 <gluxon> Sure.
18:51:38 <Delano> The splash screens in the apps are not necessary
18:51:45 <Delano> Is it possible to remove them?
18:54:26 <gluxon> The splash screen's staying. If you want to remove them, copy the AppNamePortable.ini file from \AppNamePortable\Other\Source in to \AppNamePortable. Then change DisableSplashScreen=false to true.
18:54:26 <gluxon> In other words, the launcher (AppNamePortable.exe) and (AppNamePortable.ini) should be in the same folder.
18:54:52 <gluxon> Delano: I'm looking at the FirefoxPortable launcher.
18:55:24 <Delano> Okay
18:55:30 <Delano> They just kinda slow things down
18:55:40 <gluxon> Delano: Actually, they don't.
18:56:07 <gluxon> The launchers are designed to work while the splash is running.
18:56:17 <Delano> Okay
18:56:31 <gluxon> It looks like the programmer behind the platform is planning on a feature inside the platform to disable the splash screens for all the apps.
18:58:17 <Delano> Funky :o)
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18:59:50 <Delano> There are a few portable app collections online
18:59:54 <Delano> This is the best, though
18:59:55 <awircser> hey there
19:00:01 <gluxon> Delano: thanks :)
19:00:34 <awircser> how to edit FFP id that websites see? like gecko version and browser version?
19:01:00 <awircser> i remember that there was something in about:config .. but my memory died
19:01:47 <awircser> also my Data folder is 400Mb even after clearing everything in the history
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19:08:06 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
19:09:11 <Delano> I tried pchat
19:09:16 <Delano> It needs a lot of work
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19:26:09 <Gizmokid2005> 'allo JohnTHaller
19:26:15 <JohnTHaller> ello
19:26:40 <Gizmokid2005> I'm up in the air on TightVNC right now
19:26:49 <JohnTHaller> how so
19:26:59 <Gizmokid2005> I asked if they had a timeframe of when they plan their portable release
19:27:07 <Gizmokid2005> and I got "We do have a schedule, but I cannot promise anything to any particular date, sorry."
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19:35:45 <M4T1A5> stupid not-so-open-source programs
19:36:00 <JohnTHaller> huh?
19:36:05 <Gizmokid2005> it is OSS M4T1A5, just not their U3 launcher...
19:36:11 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: have you heard from them about going portable?
19:37:29 <JohnTHaller> Nope.
19:38:11 <JohnTHaller> You tried to do UltraVNC instead?
19:38:14 <Gizmokid2005> Ok. One question about that then, what happens when you've got a community built app that's portable and then the devs of the app make one? Do you use the dev-built as official then?
19:38:19 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yeah...UltraVNC seems more/less Dead
19:38:37 <Gizmokid2005> there /used/ to be some type of portable switch...but no matter where I post or who I try to contact I can't get any replies from anyone
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19:51:53 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: Could you remove the link over here? http://portableapps.com/node/24561 Thanks.
19:52:49 <JohnTHaller> done
19:53:39 <gluxon> :)
20:06:17 <JohnTHaller> The site felt a bit faster to you guys in the last 24 hours?
20:06:30 <Gizmokid2005> a bit yeah, actually
20:06:37 <Gizmokid2005> what'd you do?
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20:08:41 <JohnTHaller> Installed and tweaked the Boost module which caches plain HTML versions of all pages for guests. Also gzips them, CSS and JS. Also added Minify to shrink the combined JS files for all users.
20:08:59 <Gizmokid2005> it's definitely felt quicker for sure
20:09:49 <JohnTHaller> SO, that means the 5,000 or so guests get cached pages much quicker. And server resources are greatly freed for the 50 or so registered users on at any given time.
20:10:08 <Gizmokid2005> wewt!
20:10:28 <Gizmokid2005> see my messages about ultraVNC and the previous question JohnTHaller?
20:10:39 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, nothing I can really assist with.
20:10:57 <Gizmokid2005> what about what happens when you've got a community built app that's portable and then the devs of the app make one? Do you use the dev-built as official then?
20:11:10 <JohnTHaller> Only if it's a PAF
20:11:28 <Gizmokid2005> I wouldn't mind working on TightVNC...but I'd be a bit put-off if I got tightvnc done and out, and then the next week the TightVNC team said oh here you go
20:11:41 <Gizmokid2005> I mean, it should be realitively trivial to get that PAF'd
20:11:47 <JohnTHaller> Do we know they're doing a PAF?
20:11:56 <Gizmokid2005> I have to check to see if there's a file switch instead just registry saving
20:11:56 <Gizmokid2005> yep
20:12:17 <JohnTHaller> Regardless, we're free to do it. And if and when they get a portable version done, we can incorporate those changes into our PAF.
20:12:25 <Gizmokid2005> >From the other side, we plan to release the loader under the GPL in the near future, and also we have plans to release a PortableApps.com version as well.
20:12:31 <JohnTHaller> Anything we do, there's always the possibility that the devs will then take it over at some point.
20:12:46 <Gizmokid2005> I got that in an email from them on 7/29 when I asked about it.
20:12:56 <Gizmokid2005> I figured that was the case
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20:53:15 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
20:53:16 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
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21:04:04 <computerfreaker> JohnTHaller: just a quick FYI, I got a (short) e-mail back from SRWare; they want to host Iron Portable on their servers. They'll send me a longer reply soon, since apparently the head developer (the guy who e-mailed me back) is ill right now.
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21:41:17 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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21:57:28 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: Did you get my messages?
21:58:20 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: Also, concerning Iron Portable, I found that on a youtube channel, it would get kinda bogged up.
21:58:36 <pa_5740> http://www.youtube.com/user/stevemcgranahan#p/u
21:59:23 <pa_5740> brb.
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22:02:54 <computerfreaker> pa_5740: yep, I got your messages and sent one back. I'm still waiting for permission from the CPU-Z and GPU-Z developers; I haven't heard back from the CPU-Z devs, and the GPU-Z devs are clearly reluctant to give me permission to do anything.
22:05:18 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: Yeah, I saw your message after I sent the question.
22:09:42 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: To revise my statement concerning Iron Portable, when I was on a Youtube channel, when I would click "see all" to view the whole list of videos in a section, it would load it very slowly, if at all.
22:10:15 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: Here's the one I tested it on: http://www.youtube.com/user/stevemcgranahan#p/u
22:12:30 <pa_5740> computerfreaker: I used Iron Portable version 5.0.381in my testing.
22:12:31 <computerfreaker> pa_5740: thanks for the report. That's probably an Iron bug (as opposed to an Iron Portable issue), so I'll pass it to the Iron devs.
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22:17:46 <pa_5740> JohnTHaller: BTW, when you your pointer on the download button for PChat Portable, it says "Download FileZilla Portable".
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22:19:23 <pa_5740> ZachThibeau: Will PChat Portable be updated soon?
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23:02:33 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, do you still need examples for language switching? I've been busy this summer, but if you need I can probably work on something in a week or so.
23:02:57 <ChrisMorgan> It would be good.
23:03:07 <Scriptdaemon> Alright.
23:03:18 <ChrisMorgan> I've been getting very little time to work on PAL at all in the past couple of weeks :-(
23:03:51 <Scriptdaemon> I feel like I've abandoned PA.c since I haven't gotten any new apps out in awhile.
23:04:29 <Scriptdaemon> I make sure to update my apps though when I can, and I still keep up on the outdated apps thread.
23:04:36 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't updated those of mine that I should... or more importantly got in the work on DLL registration and TypeLibs and documenting wildcards/XML stuff.
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23:06:02 <Scriptdaemon> Have the max/min Windows version and the RunAsAdmin for specific version been implemented yet?
23:06:09 <Scriptdaemon> features*
23:14:27 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
23:14:36 <ChrisMorgan> And documented
23:15:21 <ChrisMorgan> MinOS|MaxOS=(2000|XP|2003|Vista|7|2008 R2), RunAsAdmin(2000|XP|2003|Vista|7|2008R2)=|try|force
23:20:25 <Scriptdaemon> Awsome.
23:20:28 <Scriptdaemon> Awesome*
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