IRC Log from 2010-08-16
00:09:56 <Mir> or bos wars
00:20:47 <gluxon> ptmb: The bug with the Firefox updater was fixed in 3.5
00:20:55 <ptmb> :P
00:21:00 <ptmb> still it is not recomended
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04:01:21 <Grooveshark> I dont seem to understand how exactly to manulally create portable apps
04:01:33 <Grooveshark> Can anyone help with this?
04:02:13 <JohnTHaller> I can't at the moment as I'm just stepping out. The best thing to do is to post in the forums and then take it a few steps and questions at a time. You'll have more people looking at it.
04:02:56 <Grooveshark> ALright thanks.
04:03:30 <Grooveshark> I tried to do it both automatically and manually but I failed so I am hoping someone can give me a step by step.
04:04:24 <JohnTHaller> There isn't one yet. The manual for the PA.c Launcher has some details. But it's best to look at other apps that use it to see how it's used. PChat and Audacity both use it.
04:04:40 <JohnTHaller> There are no automated methods for creating them that are universally legal.
04:11:12 <Grooveshark> Okay Ill check those out do you have any links?
04:11:40 <JohnTHaller> You can get to it all from here: http://portableapps.com/development
04:11:59 <JohnTHaller> The manual is linked from the PA.c Launcher page. You can find it here: http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/
04:12:30 <JohnTHaller> And be sure to grab PChat and Audacity here so you can see an example of the launcher in use. I find it easier than reading manuals myself: http://portableapps.com/apps
04:14:59 <Grooveshark> Thanks for your hel friend.
04:15:03 <Grooveshark> help*
04:15:04 <GizmoBot> Grooveshark: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
04:15:05 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
04:15:22 <JohnTHaller> (you triggered the help response from the bot) :)
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05:00:12 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net
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06:32:17 <pa_6373> forum spam: http://portableapps.com/node/24600
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07:07:18 <barjavel.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them
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09:04:01 <pa_7670> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/19617#comment-156256
09:04:11 <pa_7670> Ciao
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09:22:04 <pa_0334> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/24576#comment-156257
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11:11:43 <lemburg> Can somebody help me get the GoogleChromePortable versions 5 or 6 to start?
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11:15:32 <lemburg> The problem is, that the executable GoogleChromePortable.exe starts, but the GoogleChrome executable does not start, or exists as quick, that I don't realize it.
11:15:47 <lemburg> It happens on Win7 64bit as well as on WinXP 32bit.
11:21:40 <ChrisMorgan> Is there anything special about the configuration of the computer?
11:21:52 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't ever had any trouble with Google Chrome Portable on my USB disk.
11:24:00 <lemburg> The Win7 64bit computer is in a companies domain environment and my account has extended rights.
11:24:10 <lemburg> The WinXP 32bit computer is a private one with nothing special.
11:24:34 <lemburg> But have the DataExecutionProtection enabled.
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11:27:45 <lemburg> But both have the DataExecutionProtection enabled.
11:29:01 <ChrisMorgan> Having DEP enabled is normal.
11:29:11 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried reinstalling it to see if that helps?
11:30:08 <lemburg> Yes - both the version 5 and the development version 6
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11:34:01 <sar3th> testing chrome portable 5 on windows xp 32-bit now
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11:35:08 <sar3th> works flawlessly for me :|
11:37:11 <ChrisMorgan> And has for me too.
11:38:10 <Mercury044> chrome portable 5.0.375.125 is running just fine on my win 7 pro
11:40:05 <Mercury044> sry 64 bit edition too
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12:03:05 <lemburg> I just monitored the start/exit of GoogleChromePortable.exe and chrome.exe with the SysInternals ProcessMonitor ...
12:03:15 <lemburg> Exit Status: 9
12:03:15 <lemburg> User Time: 0.0000000 seconds
12:03:18 <lemburg> Kernel Time: 0.0312002 seconds
12:03:23 <lemburg> Private Bytes: 987.136
12:03:28 <lemburg> Peak Working Set: 3.760.128
12:03:28 <lemburg> Working Set: 3.760.128
12:03:32 <lemburg> Peak Private Bytes: 1.028.096
12:03:55 <lemburg> So - chrome.exe was started and exited after 0.03 seconds with exit status 9.
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12:10:07 <lemburg> Ok - I have it ... is it normal to have a directory "5.0.375.86" below "chrome-bin" containing all the chrome specific files (e.g. chrome.dll)?
12:10:18 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
12:10:34 <lemburg> Copying the contents of "5.0.375.86" to chrome-bin and starting lets GoogleChrome startup
12:10:40 <ChrisMorgan> No, no, no.
12:10:43 <ChrisMorgan> That will *not* work.
12:10:50 <ChrisMorgan> Or at least it /shouldn't/
12:11:16 <ChrisMorgan> It's designed to work inside the version number subdirectory; that's the way Chrome has had it work, so that's preserved.
12:11:28 <ChrisMorgan> I can't think of what it could be that's wrong in your case. What directory are you installing to?
12:11:39 <lemburg> The sysinternals ProcessMonitor showed the chrome.exe searched for chrome.dll and got "NAME NOT FOUND". Afterwards it closes down.
12:12:39 <ChrisMorgan> I can't remember clearly, but maybe chrome.exe was also in the 5.0.375.86 directory? sar3th, Mercury044? I don't have it handy at the moment
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12:14:35 <lemburg_> Sorry - after completing a "screen" IE8 complains and I have to relogin.
12:14:59 <lemburg_> So - Google Chrome starts up, if the contents of the version directory are copied to the chrome-bin directory.
12:15:01 <Mercury044> \PortableApps\GoogleChromePortable\App\Chrome-bin
12:15:01 <Mercury044> is where chrome is located
12:15:08 <lemburg_> Yes
12:15:27 <Mercury044> the dll is under the version number though
12:15:33 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, that's what I thought.
12:15:42 <lemburg_> Sorry - c:\program files (x86)\GoogleChromePortable\App\Chrome-bin
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12:16:07 <lemburg_> yes the dll is in the version number directory
12:16:41 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, that's it.
12:16:45 <ChrisMorgan> Don't install to Program Files.
12:16:46 <ChrisMorgan> Ever.
12:16:55 <lemburg_> was - after copying to Chrome-bin chrome.exe starts up successfully. Before copying ProcMon tells, that chrome.exe doesn't find chrome.dll.
12:17:06 <lemburg_> Ok - why?
12:17:13 <lemburg_> It would be the first PortableApps program not working below this path.
12:18:28 <ChrisMorgan> It's not. Most won't work properly. Program Files has special permissions in Vista and 7 (and XP if you're not admin).
12:19:04 <ChrisMorgan> With a number of the apps the failure will be quite quiet and minor.
12:19:10 <ChrisMorgan> But you shouldn't ever install to that directory.
12:20:26 <lemburg_> Wonderful - I'm the owner of the install dir and have full rights and still it's not working?
12:20:51 <ChrisMorgan> UAC.
12:21:38 <lemburg_> Ok - chrome depends more on Windows functionality than e.g. firefox, which is working quite fine.
12:22:06 <lemburg_> Ok - I'll move it to another dir.
12:25:07 <sar3th> not even the official google chrome installs to program files
12:26:09 <lemburg_> Ok - understood!
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12:51:27 * ChrisMorgan wonders when he'll manage to get time to build gVim Portable 7.3 (released yesterday/today) and Inkscape Portable 0.48 (in the process of being released now)
13:15:39 * dboki89 wonders how the impatient PA userbase would react if John started behaving exactly like HorribleSubs (Anime fansubs group) are treating their userbase?.. I think there would be some organized gangster-raids and drive-by-shootings... :( Those impatient <insert_profanity_here>
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13:15:58 <dboki89> ^ just a comment on my view of the (lack of) justification for that impatience; I'm not seeking neither debate nor conversation on the subject...
13:16:04 <ChrisMorgan> <don't insert profanity anywhere>
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13:35:30 <dboki89> Well, Chris, now that I've put that post-related comment behind me, do you (or anyone else) know where the commands for GizmoBot are written down? Or do I need to figure them out the good-old "trial and error" style?
13:36:01 <ChrisMorgan> GizmoBot: help
13:36:01 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is Gizmokid2005.
13:36:35 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: thanks :)
13:36:57 <Mercury044> oh wow thats kinda cool
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13:58:23 <M4T1A5> gVIm
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19:51:41 <Saesee> hi all, i have a question
19:52:08 <Saesee> how to add a folder to the menu ? under images & others... ?
19:52:08 <sar3th> hi Saesee, please ask
19:53:59 <Saesee> how to add a folder to the menu ? under images & others... ?
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20:01:53 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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22:02:18 <kiwikay> When I'm using portable Thunderbird and click on a web link in my mail message, it opens up the c drive's Firefox, not my portable. How do I change that default?
22:02:58 <Bensawsome> kiwikay you must have portable firefox open first.
22:05:02 <kiwikay> Hmm, guess that involves a habit change... Thought there was a way to choose default programs system wide (I am the main one to use the computer -- mainly used PA since I have computers in multiple locations that I use).
22:06:10 <sar3th> you would need to set ffp to the pc's default browser in the registry, which would not entirely comply with the concept of portableapps
22:07:31 <kiwikay> Ok. At least now I'm using a design so I notice which Firefox is running. Thanks
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22:08:38 <kiwikay> Since I accidently bookmarked a bunch of things on the non-portable Firefox, is there a quick way to sync them up?
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22:12:07 * pa_9688 need help :-<
22:12:22 <Gizmokid2005> ask pa_9688, we can't help if we don't know your problem...
22:13:12 <pa_9688> want to make lightspeed trader software portable from usb drive
22:13:23 <pa_9688> msi file
22:13:29 <pa_9688> don't have a clue
22:14:16 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9688: read the development section of the site
22:14:18 <Gizmokid2005> and this
22:14:21 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
22:14:21 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
22:15:26 <pa_9688> ty
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22:44:32 <kiwikay> Did anyone see this question? Since I accidently bookmarked a bunch of things on the non-portable Firefox, is there a quick way to sync them up?
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