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01:58:09 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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10:54:57 <Drive-Dude> Hi I was thinking would it be cool. To have a feature on PortableApps.com Platform when you move your computer mouse crossover the menu it makes a sound. And it make a sound when it's shuting down or starts. But should a choice so people can turn it off or on. And choose a sound or a souns for it all.
10:55:56 <Drive-Dude> or the same sound for it all on the menu
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11:22:04 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
11:40:41 <dboki89> Drive-Dude: You should probably make a forum post with [Feature request] in the title or something... It's unlikely John will read through the IRC logs to see your suggestion, and if it's in the forums maybe more people would add their vote...
11:41:08 <dboki89> In any case, it likely won't be added as John said he'll only be adding features a larger userbase would appreciate, and he doesn't want to add anything non-essential to the "Platform"...
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11:48:24 <dboki89> .tell ChrisMorgan : May the irrelevant links be obscured in this comment, please? --> http://portableapps.com/news/2010-08-13_-_filezilla_portable_3.3.4#comment-156591 ; thanks
11:48:24 <GizmoBot> dboki89: I'll pass that on when ChrisMorgan is around.
11:50:30 <Drive-Dude> Yeah I know. But I prefer not a be a member on the forum just for telling a single thing. I wante to be free and independent not tied down on a forum. I just ordinary try to deleted the membership it later.
11:52:04 <dboki89> ok; to each his own :)
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11:57:41 <Drive-Dude> Maybe somebody should create a *non-essential pack* full of features people could add.
11:58:06 <Drive-Dude> Just trying to be helpfull
11:58:33 <Drive-Dude> I am gonna go now. But have a nice day or night
11:58:41 <dboki89> Bye
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11:58:59 <Mercury044> interesting
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13:18:35 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
13:18:39 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
13:18:55 <dboki89> SPAM --> http://portableapps.com/node/9909?page=5#comment-156594
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17:48:27 <dob1> hi, can i take an application from portable apps and use it in another application ?
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17:54:22 <TimClark> dob1: Could you please elaborate on your question ? What is it you want to do ?
17:56:54 <dob1> i just want to put a pdf reader in an application, to view a pdf from this application, i was thinking that using a portable one was a good choice
17:57:43 <dob1> if it is not allowed i will look for another solution
17:57:46 <gluxon> dob1: Well, it depends. The new application has to be GPL licensed.
17:58:01 <TimClark> What app did you want to put a pdf reader in dob1 ?
17:59:18 <dob1> it's not licensed as gpl, it's like an address book with other data, i need the reader to view the manual of this application
18:00:02 <TimClark> Which one of our apps do you want to put it into dob1 ?
18:00:25 <dob1> foxitreader
18:00:39 <TimClark> And is this for your own use?
18:01:21 <dob1> no, it's not for me, the application i am talking about will be give to other people
18:01:54 <TimClark> So you want to put foxitreader into another app, is that correct
18:02:25 <dob1> yes, just to see the manual of this application to not rely on the default pdf viewer
18:03:17 <TimClark> Will you be changing foxitreader at all, or will the app just call it
18:03:29 <dob1> just call it
18:03:57 <TimClark> Then it should not be a problem if you are not altering foxitreader
18:04:16 <dob1> well the scenario is this, you have a link in an Help menu -> manual -> this launch the foxitredar to view the manual
18:04:19 <dob1> just this
18:04:20 <TimClark> You might want to check with the folks here just to be sure http://www.foxitsoftware.com/
18:05:29 <TimClark> But if you are just including foxitreader portable, and not changing it, I don't think it will be a problem
18:06:31 <dob1> so to be clear, can i take the directory of foxitreader portable and put on this will be part of the installer of that application?
18:06:43 <dob1> *this application and
18:07:03 <TimClark> restate that please
18:08:29 <TimClark> If all you are doing is installing foxitportable and the installer is being called from the installer of your app it should be fine
18:10:01 <dob1> i include in the installer of that app the directory of foxitreader portable so it will become part of the application when the application will be installed
18:11:10 <TimClark> So you are saying that foxitreader portable is ALREADY extracted, and you want to incluce the extracted directory into your apps installer
18:11:19 <dob1> yes
18:12:26 <dob1> i want to copy the FoxitReaderPortable directory from PortableApps directory into the application directory
18:12:26 <TimClark> THAT I am not sure about, could you not just have the foxitreader portable installer invoked by your installler and do the install at that time
18:13:16 <TimClark> You might want to post that question at the forums, it's getting a little beyond my knowledge at this point
18:13:46 <Computator> were you going to be viewing local pdfs or online ones?
18:14:16 <dob1> it's just the manual of this application one pdf only, stored in the directory of this application
18:15:10 <Computator> ahhh ok...
18:15:15 <TimClark> Again, you might want to post that question at the forums, it's getting a little beyond our knowledge at this point, there you can get the best answer
18:16:14 <TimClark> Just be sure to give as much information as possilbe, the information that you have given us here, explaining what you want to do and how
18:17:05 <dob1> ok i will take a look at the forum
18:17:26 <TimClark> Good Luck
18:17:34 <TimClark> I hope you can do it
18:18:08 <dob1> i am considering some option to do this, and this is one of them :)
18:18:21 <dob1> other are calling the default pdf viewer of the system
18:18:39 <dob1> or just put a link in start menu :)
18:20:28 <TimClark> Well the sooner you post your question, the sooner you will know :D
18:22:15 <TimClark> This is where you would post your question dob1 http://portableapps.com/forums/support/other_apps
18:22:16 <dob1> well you right, but i am not the main developer of this application, is better that he will ask in the forum, i will give him the logs of the channel
18:22:37 <TimClark> Sounds like a good idea
18:22:57 <dob1> anyway thanks for the help :)
18:23:04 <TimClark> Your Welcome
18:25:02 <TimClark> dob1: you also might want to look into Sumatra Portable http://portableapps.com/apps/office/sumatra_pdf_portable
18:25:28 <TimClark> It's very basic, and much smaller
18:26:05 <TimClark> And it is Open Source, so you might have more options
18:26:16 <dob1> i looked at it, but it doens't handle font of the manual in right way
18:26:24 <TimClark> Ah, gotcha
18:26:50 <TimClark> dob1: Can I make a joke ?
18:27:25 <dob1> well if you want, depends of the joke :)
18:27:30 <TimClark> Change the font :P
18:27:47 <TimClark> Sorry, could not help myself
18:27:59 <dob1> well it's latex, this handle the font :)
18:28:32 <sar3th> oh
18:28:44 <TimClark> It was just a joke, obviously you would rather have an app that deals with what you already have
18:29:11 <dob1> but, just to now, not referring to my case, but there is acrobat reader portable too ? it's planned ?
18:29:38 <TimClark> Never
18:29:41 <dob1> or it's impossible to make it portable?
18:30:03 <TimClark> Closed Source and VERY Propitary
18:30:29 <TimClark> Plain and simple, Adobe does not want it to happen
18:31:02 <dob1> why they don't want in your opinion ? more adobe reader, more users , isn't it ?
18:31:39 <TimClark> That you have to ask them, they have made it harder to even get Flash portable
18:32:11 <TimClark> It used to be easy, now it very hard, unless you do a local install first
18:32:39 <TimClark> Simply put, THEY want the control
18:34:19 <dob1> i am sorry for acrobat reader, but not for flash :)
18:35:09 <TimClark> Understood, I don't use Flash unless I Absolutely have to, I have it in my FFP but it is disabled unless I turn it on
18:40:26 <dob1> maybe with html5 the things will change
18:41:11 <TimClark> Is the app you are working with publicly available ? Can you link to a site ?
18:44:01 <dob1> no it's not public or downloadable from a site
18:44:16 <TimClark> ok
18:44:49 <dob1> it will be sell as part of another app, it requires some external device
18:45:35 <TimClark> See if it can be designed to be made easily portable :P
18:47:28 <TimClark> When your design leader posts in the fourms his question he should mention that it is intended as a Commercial app dob1 , that might affect the answer
18:49:32 <dob1> well design leader is a good term, but we are not so expert to be like a real software-house :)
18:50:20 <TimClark> I just forgot how you referred to him earlier
18:50:55 <dob1> have to go, thanks for the help TimClark i will give him the logs
18:50:57 <dob1> bye
18:51:12 <TimClark> Good bye
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22:42:00 <pa_2530> help, I have installed the portable apps several times and cannot get firefox to boot nor get open office to boot. I did install the portable java app
22:42:00 <GizmoBot> pa_2530: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
22:46:52 <dboki89> pa_2530: did you wait long enough? OpenOffice usually takes longer to open then other apps, and so does VLC Player... [1] Did you get any error message? [2] Does the light of your flash drive continue to blink? (or however your's shoes it's being in use)... [3] If you know, are you using a USB 2.0 or USB 1.1? (basically,is it an older computer, or a newer one)
22:46:53 <TimClark> pa_2530: did you install the whole platform or just Fire fox portable and OO.o
22:47:30 <dboki89> pa_2530: Disclaimer: I'm not a developer (but TimClark is :) ), just a user that sometimes messes with stuff
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22:47:33 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
22:48:04 <TimClark> Actually dboki89 , I am not a dev :P
22:48:58 <dboki89> administrator? moderator? In any case, one of the hot-shots in the PA, right :)
22:48:59 <TimClark> pa_2530: try this , install just Firefox portable to your harddrive and see if it works
22:49:12 <pa_2530> I installed the complete package, oo never boots, and firefox claims to have an error
22:49:39 <TimClark> try just installing FF and see if that works
22:50:42 <TimClark> As dboki89 pointed out OO.o is a very large app and is sometimes not very responsive
22:52:24 <pa_2530> looks like I need to do an new install anyway, startportableapps.exe is not working anyway. Do I need to install portable java to get the apps in the package to work?
22:52:58 <TimClark> FFP does NOT use portable java
22:53:31 <TimClark> I say don't worry about java till you see if you can get FF to work first
22:53:31 <TimClark> deal with one problem at a time
22:53:57 <pa_2530> I will try installs again- one at a time, thanks
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