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02:20:51 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, I'm (very slowly) working on a worked example of Wormux for the launcher manual. I figured it was probably the easiest regarding language switching.
02:21:04 <ChrisMorgan> Thank-ee :-)
02:21:47 <Scriptdaemon> Want just the language switching stuff, or do you want the whole .ini file worked out? I already mention that it saves a directory in %APPDATA%.
02:22:13 <ChrisMorgan> As complete as possible would be nice. But even just the language stuff would be great.
02:22:51 <Scriptdaemon> Alright, I'll do the complete write-up for it. I'm doing it in an .rst file like your others so you'll just have to do a quick look-through.
02:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think we ever mention how we found out that "settings are saved in APPDATA" etc. with any of these things... how do you - source, guess, regshot?
02:23:44 <Scriptdaemon> For this I think I just guessed, since I haven't used Regshot since it's been giving me problems.
02:23:54 <Scriptdaemon> I'll mention that then.
02:24:42 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for your help with it. I should do a complete write up of the history of Data Crow Portable, there are some interesting points to be observed. This morning I wrote up a thing about custom code in installers for updating paths, referencing Data Crow Portable and Iron Portable with some explanation of both.
02:25:29 <Scriptdaemon> Nice. Yeah, then the write-up for Wormux should have tutorials for multiple things then instead of just language switching.
02:25:38 <Scriptdaemon> than*
02:26:50 <Scriptdaemon> For for fun, I might do one for Sauerbraten if you'll take it. It hides the command line window and waits for the splash to finish, as well as not even needing the launcher to wait for it.
02:26:53 <Scriptdaemon> Just*
02:33:01 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, that'd be a good help for the games section.
02:33:17 <ChrisMorgan> Do as many as you want, and I'll take them all* :-)
02:33:52 <ChrisMorgan> * I reserve the right to edit content and I also have the right of veto
02:38:56 <Scriptdaemon> Understood. :)
02:40:01 <Scriptdaemon> A single ` is to create a link, correct? (Just judging based on what you've already done in the other examples.)
02:41:20 <Scriptdaemon> Eh, I can just leave that part for you to fix. =P
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04:11:35 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
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05:02:18 <dboki89> ChrisMorgan: you might wanna take a look (and take other appropriate measures) at this --> http://portableapps.com/node/24698 and this --> http://portableapps.com/node/24699
05:03:50 <ChrisMorgan> When the site comes back online I may...
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08:15:41 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
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11:55:43 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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15:44:36 <Bicster> Can someone please help me troubleshoot an app-won't-start issue? I've been using Chrome Portable for months and today it won't start. I blew it away and reinstalled and it still won't start. Chrome starts fine if I launch it myself outside the portable framework. I don't get any errors. Is there a log?
15:46:04 <Bicster> all my other portable apps start and run just fine
15:46:26 <Bicster> I tried rebooting, cleaning the registry, sacrificing livestock ...
15:57:14 <Gizmokid2005> Bicster: if you've completely blown away the folder and reinstalled...i can't say there's much I can think of that would be an issue..
15:57:30 <Gizmokid2005> My best suggestion is to post in the forums, one of the app's devs might have some ideas
15:57:33 <Bicster> that's why I'm wondering if there is anything I can troubleshoot
15:57:59 <Gizmokid2005> I can't think of anything
15:58:09 <Gizmokid2005> if it launches without errors normally, it should just run then
15:58:13 <Bicster> I guess I can try to load it from a debugger
15:58:20 <Gizmokid2005> especially if the other apps launch fine
15:58:31 <Bicster> it's almost like it expired
15:58:39 <Bicster> or else the gestapo's security agent blocks it
15:59:56 <Bicster> I guess I can build the launcher from source?
16:00:02 <Bicster> afk
16:01:39 <Gizmokid2005> you can Bicster
16:01:55 <Gizmokid2005> and it's possible that security software would block it.
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16:52:22 <Bicster> he thread 0xFC0 has exited with code -1073741790 (0xC0000022).
16:52:22 <Bicster> The program 'E:\PortableApps\GoogleChromePortable-works\GoogleChromePortable.exe' has exited with code -1073741790 (0xC0000022).
16:53:48 <Bicster> pretty useless. I don't know how to debug NSIS stuff
17:20:00 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't say a whole lot...
17:20:10 <Gizmokid2005> take out the "-works" from your directory and try it again
17:21:08 <Bicster> been there, done that
17:21:12 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
17:21:22 <Bicster> it fires right up on my home PC via an RDP session
17:21:25 <Gizmokid2005> I didn't code the launcher and I'm not sure how it's setup..
17:21:31 <Gizmokid2005> probably something with the local machine
17:21:34 <Bicster> yeah
17:21:35 <Gizmokid2005> can you disable the security software?
17:21:55 <Bicster> I managed to get an admin command prompt and even with that, taskkill was unable to terminate it
17:22:25 <Bicster> sometimes I hate working here. This is one of those times
17:22:47 <Bicster> I have admin on 225 servers but not on my own damn laptop
17:23:04 <Gizmokid2005> haha
17:23:06 <Gizmokid2005> I hear ya
17:23:12 <Bicster> bitch moan whine
17:23:14 <Gizmokid2005> I finally got my company to give me admin on my local machine
17:23:33 <Bicster> I just have a program that gives it to me. But I'd be shot if they found me with it
17:23:46 <Gizmokid2005> haha
17:23:49 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
17:24:40 <Bicster> any idea if it uses appcompactor? maybe I can uncompact it? I know our security software thinks a lot of exe compressors are malware
17:24:52 <Bicster> although normally that shows up in the anti-virus, and this one isn't
17:25:11 <Bicster> hell they have netcat flagged as a trojan
17:25:52 <Gizmokid2005> Bicster: I don't know if it does...a lot of apps do
17:25:55 <Gizmokid2005> so it's a possibility
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17:45:11 <Bicster> nope, not packed by UPX
17:49:05 <Gizmokid2005> the nsis launcher isn't, it can't be
17:49:15 <Gizmokid2005> I'm still not sure what's wrong with it though
17:49:37 <Bicster> I was looking into rebuilding it, but I am hopelessly lost
17:51:41 <Bicster> any pointers there would be greatly appreciated
17:54:01 <Gizmokid2005> just install NSIS Portable, open it
17:54:23 <Gizmokid2005> thenuse it to compile the GoogleChromePortable.nsi in GCPortable\Other\Source
17:54:28 <Gizmokid2005> (assuming it's still done like that)
17:54:34 <Gizmokid2005> a lot of apps have moved to the new launcher
17:54:39 <Bicster> I tried that, and it threw a few warnings
17:54:49 <Gizmokid2005> which you will need to use PortableApps.comLauncher for.
17:54:51 <Gizmokid2005> what are they?
17:54:52 <Bicster> when I tried to run the EXE I got a bunch of errors about missing files
17:55:17 <Bicster> but I wonder if I need an older (non 2.0) nsis portable?
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17:55:49 <Bicster> oh nevermind I was using the wrong tool
17:55:50 <Gizmokid2005> no
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17:56:00 <Gizmokid2005> NSISPortable 2.46 is the version you need to use
17:56:05 <Gizmokid2005> if it's that type of launcher
17:56:37 <Bicster> StrCpy $0 "GoogleChromePortable.exe" () ()
17:56:37 <Bicster> Invalid command: KillProc::FindProcesses
17:56:37 <Bicster> Error in script "C:\Temp\GoogleChromePortable\Other\Source\GoogleChromePortable.nsi" on line 703 -- aborting creation process
17:57:30 <Gizmokid2005> should just be FindProcess
17:57:35 <Gizmokid2005> you can edit the file with a text editor
17:57:41 <Gizmokid2005> (NP++ is suggested)
17:58:05 <Bicster> can't function without vi
17:58:11 <Bicster> edited it with notepad :(
17:58:31 <Gizmokid2005> you could use vi too I'd imagine
17:58:35 <Gizmokid2005> or vim
17:58:54 <Bicster> Invalid command: FindProcess
17:59:02 <Gizmokid2005> erm
17:59:04 <Bicster> I'll just remove that whole block. it pertains to something I don't use
17:59:09 <Gizmokid2005> it should be "KillProc::FindProcess"
17:59:11 <Bicster> oh
17:59:23 <Gizmokid2005> you need it as the launcher needs to stick around
17:59:42 <Bicster> Invalid command: KillProc::FindProcess
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18:00:02 <Bicster> but that whole block tests to see if RUNLOCALLY is true. I keep it false
18:00:23 <Gizmokid2005> grr, I can't check it, I'm not on my windows machine
18:00:43 <Bicster> oh well, removed it and of course the same error on another line ;)
18:00:55 <Gizmokid2005> I figured
18:01:01 <Gizmokid2005> what are you using to compile it?
18:01:40 <Bicster> the latest nsis portable
18:01:44 <Bicster> apparently the issue is my 64-bit OS
18:02:58 <Bicster> I'll try it on another machine
18:04:24 <Bicster> well no, that didn't fix it
18:06:48 <Bicster> ok, KillProc plugin installed, now it builds. thanks
18:10:34 <Bicster> hey
18:10:40 <Bicster> I changed some header shit and now it runs
18:11:12 <Bicster> now I discovered that as long as it's not called GoogleChromePortable.exe, it works
18:11:22 <Bicster> (*$(&%@&%(
18:14:04 <Bicster> thanks Gizmokid2005
18:14:18 <Gizmokid2005> lol
18:14:23 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome Bicster
18:14:42 <Bicster> I guess it *must* be that security agent BS
18:14:50 <Bicster> which means I'm probably in trouble, lol
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18:23:18 <Gizmokid2005> haha, more than likely Bicster
18:23:24 <Gizmokid2005> I like the fact my company doesn't use anything like that
18:23:36 <Gizmokid2005> in fact, they don't even really have a "standard" A/V that's used
18:23:39 <Gizmokid2005> much less a non-free one
18:24:14 <Bicster> I wonder if the ISA proxy server logs user-agents
18:24:41 <Bicster> normally I use a socks5 proxy via an ssh tunnel :)
18:31:09 <Gizmokid2005> haha
18:31:25 <Gizmokid2005> I work from home now, so I don't really care one way or the other. Telecommuting for the win...(usually)
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21:01:26 <pa_8850> hi?
21:02:17 <pa_8850> anybody?
21:02:22 <pa_8850> bueller?
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22:41:23 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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22:51:10 <JacobMastel-away> /g NickErv devoice #portableapp
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