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01:09:33 <ZachThibeau> howdy rmccue long time no see
01:09:41 <rmccue> Hey.
01:10:53 <ZachThibeau> whats up
01:11:08 <ZachThibeau> other than stuff related to the atmosphere
01:12:58 <sar3th> ZachThibeau, space
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01:22:24 <ChrisMorgan> Anyone got a copy of Vista or 7 and would like to test http://chrismorgan.info/temp/ALLUSERSAPPDATA.exe ? Just checking ALLUSERSPROFILE and the values of APPDATA for current and all users.
01:24:37 <ChrisMorgan> I've got results for Wine and XP but I need to confirm how the ProgramData stuff works on Vista/7
01:35:19 <ChrisMorgan> Anyone?
01:36:37 <sar3th> depends on how much time you have ;) if i start a vm, it will take at least 30 minutes i think
01:39:15 <ChrisMorgan> I have all the time in the world... well, not quite, but hours at least :P
01:39:42 <ChrisMorgan> I was able to test it in *my* XP VM in under a couple of minutes... :-)
01:40:39 <ChrisMorgan> It's nice having an XP VM. I just need to work out how to cart Vista/7 home from Uni when I don't have 2.2GB free on any USB disk I have... I think they have some CD copies somewhere...
01:40:47 <ChrisMorgan> *DVD
01:42:09 <sar3th> ok, installing
01:44:57 <auscompgeek> ChrisMorgan: Hm?
01:45:14 <auscompgeek> I have a Vista and a 7 laptop.
01:45:25 <ChrisMorgan> auscompgeek: would you mind running that executable then?
01:45:37 <auscompgeek> I know that APPDATA should be ok.
01:45:56 <auscompgeek> I'll just download it... Oh wait, I'll need to close my portable apps :/
01:46:15 <auscompgeek> Because this is my XP laptop... And I only have my USB...
01:46:32 <auscompgeek> Hm, wait, I'll just use my external HDD.
01:48:19 * auscompgeek switches on his 7 netbook
01:48:54 <sar3th> so i can cancel my vm installation?
01:49:58 <auscompgeek> sure
01:50:11 <auscompgeek> I'll test it on my Vista computer as well, if you like.
01:51:34 <auscompgeek> Er, forget testing on Vista, that won't work due to me not being an admin on it.
01:52:12 <auscompgeek> Anyway, the results of it are that %APPDATA%:all and %ALLUSERSPROFILE% are the same as %ProgramData%.
01:57:48 <ChrisMorgan> C:\ProgramData?
01:57:50 <ChrisMorgan> Good.
01:57:53 <auscompgeek> Yup.
01:58:09 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry to put you to trouble sar3th
01:58:27 <auscompgeek> The %APPDATA% is %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming, as expected. :)
01:59:09 <ChrisMorgan> Yep. Good, got the answers I expected.
02:00:16 <ChrisMorgan> Which means... http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/rev/ff8b31c24679 :-)
02:00:53 <ChrisMorgan> (You see how the code is only three lines, whereas the documentation is about 26 added? It's always like that...)
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02:01:35 <auscompgeek> Yeah... :/
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02:49:02 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan, almost ready
02:49:41 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: auscompgeek gave me the confirmation I needed
02:50:57 <sar3th> ok, then i will stop the installation now
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03:08:21 <OliverK|Away> blurgh
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04:18:00 <Gringoloco> I guess that means that flash worked for devo ?
04:18:22 <sar3th> Gringoloco, elaborate please
04:18:39 <Gringoloco> http://portableapps.com/node/24503#comment-157352
04:21:49 <sar3th> nice
04:39:21 <Gringoloco> So, it's only Windows 2000, xp & 2003, which require admin priviledges to access disk-drives
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04:40:27 <Gringoloco> InfraRecorderP doesn't work either on XP limited account
04:41:47 <OliverK> infrarecorder doesn't work period
04:41:58 <Gringoloco> ?
04:42:18 <OliverK> it doesn't work with either of the drives in my tower, and it fails in my laptop
04:43:12 <Gringoloco> If there is any thing you'd like turn atm, could you try BurnAwarePortable
04:43:22 <Gringoloco> like to burn
04:43:24 <OliverK> i've already got imgburn
04:43:28 <OliverK> :)
04:43:44 <OliverK> works perfectly, even plays a funny little sound when the disc is done burning
04:48:51 <Gringoloco> ImgBurn has got some funny messageboxes:
04:48:53 <Gringoloco> Are you sure that you want to play like an ostrich and bury your head in the sand?
04:48:53 <Gringoloco> ---------------------------
04:48:53 <Gringoloco> Yes No
04:49:07 <sar3th> hah
04:49:22 <OliverK> orly?
04:49:52 <sar3th> it's got some wisemen comments as well
04:50:11 <OliverK> huh, wonder how I get those . . .
04:50:33 <sar3th> OliverK, start it
04:50:38 <sar3th> read the statusbar's text
04:50:49 <OliverK> oh, wow, i'm that stupid huh :p
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04:52:00 <OliverK> neat
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09:48:09 <Gringoloco> If anybody is in need of a couple of bags ?
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10:06:15 <Gringoloco> ...or wallets
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14:46:50 <Gringoloco> gluxon: What OS are you using ?
14:46:59 <gluxon> Right now, Linux.
14:47:27 <gluxon> If you need something tested, I can switch :)
14:48:40 <Gringoloco> Apparently the drive permissions are only a problem for 2000, XP & 2003, so if you are personaly interested in trying BurnAwareP? I could send you a copy
14:49:40 <gluxon> Sure.
14:49:49 <Gringoloco> InfraRecorderP & ImgBurnP are also having the same issue on XP limited
14:50:53 <gluxon> Wait, really?
14:51:31 <Gringoloco> What do you mean ?
14:52:04 <gluxon> I've burned a disc with Limited XP and InfraRecorder fine before.
14:56:40 <pa_5740> Not that I've done it with InfraRecorder, but I've been able to make CDs on a limited account too.
14:57:07 <pa_5740> It may have been ImgBurn, but I'm not 100% sure.
14:58:26 <Gringoloco> Then some thing is up with my setup, maybe because the admin account doesn't have anything installed
14:58:33 <Gringoloco> try this:http://gringoloco.portableapps.chrismorgan.info/BurnAwarePortable_3.0.4_Development_Test_1_online.paf.exe
14:58:40 <Gringoloco> http://gringoloco.port
14:58:59 <Gringoloco> http://gringoloco.portableapps.chrismorgan.info/BurnAwarePortable_3.0.4_Development_Test_1_online.paf.exe
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14:59:07 <Gringoloco> Thats better ;)
15:01:43 <gluxon> Hm... why are the RegDLL commands commented out?
15:03:02 <Gringoloco> one sec
15:05:28 <Gringoloco> Commented out ? I do not see what you mean ?
15:06:39 <Gringoloco> Are you talking about BurnAwarePortable.nsi ? I didn't use that, I used PAL 2.1
15:06:58 <gluxon> .. oh.
15:07:19 <gluxon> I don't like PAL :(
15:07:49 <Gringoloco> Isn't that just stubern ? ;)
15:08:10 <Gringoloco> stubborn
15:08:16 <pa_5740> :)
15:08:28 <pa_5740> Could the problem be PAL?
15:13:30 <gluxon> On wine, it gives a message about not having the FoxSDK installed
15:14:50 <Gringoloco> and what does the debug log say in the data folder?
15:15:31 <gluxon> PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0.0.0 debug messages for BurnAware Portable (BurnAwarePortable)
15:15:31 <gluxon> RegisterDLL/PrePrimary (line 208.12.7.17.27): Environment variable expansion on $0:
15:15:32 <gluxon> Before: `%PAL:AppDir%\BurnAware\FoxSDKU32w.dll`
15:15:32 <gluxon> After: `Z:\home\gluxon\Desktop\BurnAwarePortable\App\BurnAware\FoxSDKU32w.dll`
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15:16:15 <gluxon> http://pastebin.com/jz2S52uP
15:16:32 <gluxon> Sorry about that.
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15:16:45 <gluxon> I didn't hit Ctrl + C good enough in the URL bar :(
15:16:59 <gluxon> So I accidently pasted what I had before that.
15:17:53 <Gringoloco> the log says FoxSDKU32w.dll got registered and unregistered succesfully
15:18:10 <gluxon> I'll switch to Windows and try. brb
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15:41:49 <Gringoloco> Does burnAware usually run in Wine ?
15:42:05 <gluxon> I don't know.
15:42:26 <gluxon> Well, it doesn't give me the error on Vista.
15:42:49 <gluxon> But instead, the burnning window closes as soon as it opens.
15:43:19 <Gringoloco> Is that a limited account or admin ?
15:46:50 <gluxon> ... admin. Sorry, I didn't realize.
15:46:53 <gluxon> I'll switch to limited.
15:47:29 <Gringoloco> admin shouldn't have a problem, though :?
15:52:41 <gluxon> Works perfectly with Limited Vista.
15:53:07 <gluxon> I haven't tested burning, though.
15:53:28 <gluxon> Everything looks ok in the log file too.
15:54:00 <Gringoloco> But what went wrong in admin (this is all opposite of what I'm experiencing)
15:54:40 <Gringoloco> for me it works fine (the menu bit) in admin ! (I can not actually test burning a disk)
15:54:43 <gluxon> It's strange, but when I'm on admin, the burning window doesn't open (well it does, but closes right away)
15:55:44 <Gringoloco> It's not really good enough to release as a DT :(
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15:57:42 <Gringoloco> Thanx gluxon
15:58:12 <gluxon> I didn't do much.
15:58:29 <Gringoloco> Did the log (in admin) say the dll registered and unregistered succesfully
15:58:41 <gluxon> Yes.
16:00:55 <Gringoloco> So far no bad comments for WinampP, which uses the same script :)
16:01:18 <Gringoloco> ... for registring flash
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17:51:03 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Are you active?
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