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01:05:38 <Paulo> Hi there
01:06:03 <Paulo> Please... I need an information about Laucher....
01:06:10 <Paulo> someone can helpme
01:06:12 <Paulo> ???
01:07:52 <ChrisMorgan> Paulo: what information do you want?
01:11:34 <Paulo> its about from exe created by laucher
01:11:54 <Paulo> there some way to do something like reversing eng????
01:12:31 <Paulo> just for study about some exe-lanchs that a have here
01:13:06 <ChrisMorgan> Paulo: it's all open source - you can just look at the source code
01:13:21 <Paulo> where can I know about this in Apps website?
01:13:31 <Paulo> hummmmm
01:13:39 <Paulo> but whe I get some apps from web
01:13:58 <Paulo> the source does not come
01:14:43 <ChrisMorgan> Are you talking about the PortableApps.com Launcher, the custom launchers still on most apps, or the actual base app's source?
01:14:46 <Paulo> in the exe directly edit or open file thats possible?
01:15:08 <ChrisMorgan> Or the PortableApps.com Platform?
01:15:41 <Paulo> you see.... when you go an anti-virus software to exe launch... the files buld in show in scan from av
01:15:54 <ChrisMorgan> ??
01:16:18 <Paulo> well.... I try to know about a EXE created by laucher
01:16:48 <ChrisMorgan> What are you trying to achieve? The source code is readily available.
01:17:17 <Paulo> ex: when you create a laucher exe from PortableApp.com Launcher... in the main dir.... posts a new EXE file
01:17:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yes: the source code is available; it's all in Other\Source.
01:17:47 <Paulo> on app DIR thats you target by launcher
01:18:24 <ChrisMorgan> No, in the PortableApps.com Launcher directory.
01:20:23 <Paulo> okay... I know that
01:20:38 <Paulo> but some apps the Ive downloaded from web
01:20:53 <Paulo> does not came with this folder
01:21:15 <ChrisMorgan> All our portable apps come with an Other\Source directory.
01:21:49 <Paulo> yeah I know
01:21:54 <Paulo> but this one
01:22:21 <Paulo> is from a friend... and I think not add the folder code.... not inttentional
01:22:39 <Paulo> let me explain
01:22:46 <Paulo> Im a java dev
01:23:07 <Paulo> and try to gain more exps in this wonder....
01:23:50 <Paulo> so... that exe I talnking about... have some writes on win reg thats same way I need for my app
01:24:24 <Paulo> thats writes.... is not small... and is very hard to do so....
01:24:38 <Paulo> I see on launcher manual how can I do this....
01:24:41 <ChrisMorgan> Any app from anywhere else may not be open source.
01:24:48 <Paulo> I just try to save my time
01:24:54 <ChrisMorgan> So that might explain why it doesn't have an Other\Source directory.
01:25:00 <Paulo> yeah....
01:25:08 <Paulo> but this one is open too
01:25:18 <Paulo> but no problem....
01:25:33 <Paulo> U just halp me a lot....
01:25:46 <Paulo> I thank you so munch
01:25:56 <Paulo> ohh... sorry for my english!!!
01:26:15 <ChrisMorgan> Just about any app can be made portable with the PortableApps.com Launcher; just generate the launcher and make the launcher configuration as per the manual.
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02:28:44 <ChrisMorgan> Okaaayyyy... putting in debug stuff into the Ohcount test suite I *finally* worked out why it was failing on my nice shiny new NSIS parser: Vim swap files in the directory which it noticed...
02:34:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yay! All working. Now I can submit it to ohloh and the line count it records for the PortableApps.com Launcher will go up from ~800 to ~7000.
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03:17:48 <pa_7804> Hi. Just wanted to know if there were command line switches on the installers so that I can create a batch file and go to bed. :)
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03:23:09 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7804: there's /s for silent
03:23:57 <ChrisMorgan> And /DESTINATION=X:\PortableApps
03:24:31 <ChrisMorgan> Actually /SILENT=true now instead of /S
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03:25:29 <ChrisMorgan> And a few other command line arguments. But those are probably the only ones you're interested in.
03:28:05 <JohnTHaller> SILENT only works from the PA.c Platform/Updater
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03:34:48 <ChrisMorgan> Ah yes, I omitted to notice that. /S should still work though, shouldn't it, John?
03:34:57 <ChrisMorgan> As a core NSIS thing.
03:35:00 <JohnTHaller> Nope. That was disabled a while back.
03:35:50 <ChrisMorgan> Ah yes, I see the "SetSilent normal".
03:37:12 <ChrisMorgan> This git thing is 'orrible. Now I'm *definitely* decided that whether it produces smaller repositories and is faster than hg or not, it's werry nasty to use.
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03:45:09 <JohnTHaller> Ok, so PA.c Installer 203 does faster calc of whether there is room on a device (including a tweak for when there is only barely room for an upgrade), advertises the file it needs to download to the updater if it's an online installer and will use the file after the updater places it next to it...
03:45:34 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well, http://github.com/chris-morgan/ohcount/commit/ec95ee6a11c8a1b9753b5460f3c6d7c57092547c should put the launcher hg repo code line count on ohloh up from 1335 lines to 8913 lines due to the addition of NSIS to the recognised languages :-)
03:45:54 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good.
03:46:07 <JohnTHaller> redownloads a file if the first download is corrupt one additional time (md5 mismatch, server issue), adds aermenian back in, and uses taskbar progress meters in Win7
03:47:00 <JohnTHaller> The only thing I left out was moving downloads up in the install process so we don't lose an existing app being upgraded on a failed download. 97% of that is the updater issue behind proxies which will be fixed in the next few days, so I think we're ok to go gold on it right now.
03:47:15 <JohnTHaller> Agree?
03:47:21 <ChrisMorgan> And the current state of the Installer repository... 52543 lines instead of 175 lines (just help.html!). Including NSIS itself boosts the line count considerably (47887 lines, all NSIS)!
03:48:07 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think I understand that point
03:48:53 <JohnTHaller> When you're installing say Google Chrome, the installer will currently remove the old install before the download. If the download fails, your app is busted. It's an annoying bug, but will require some much more substantial changes to the code.
03:49:14 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, that one.
03:49:24 <JohnTHaller> It really only crops up atm when installing from the updater, since the updater gets the ability to have the user type in their proxy pwd. But the silent installer downloading does not.
03:49:55 <JohnTHaller> I basically added in the ability for the updater to download the PA.c installer *AND* the file the installer needs to download itself.
03:50:23 <JohnTHaller> And I added in the 2nd download attempt logic like the updater has on the off chance that the first download attempt fails for people running the installer sans updater.
03:51:32 <JohnTHaller> That should be good enough for now. And we can rework the download logic in 204 to handle the final issue.
03:52:21 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah, I also have the installer generator error out when Start= points to a file that doesn't exist.
03:53:07 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: All that sound good to you? You wanna give it a quick looksee before I go live with it?
03:53:48 <ChrisMorgan> Arg... that NSIS line count is too high (twice as high as it should be... \r\0\n\0 becomes NL 0x0 NL 0x0) and the comment count wonky (0!?): UTF-16LE strikes again. :-(
03:54:13 <JohnTHaller> I'm not working from the repo. I'm working from the last copy you gave me that you were happy with.
03:54:33 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, that was the repo thing. I'm just playing with my new ability to use ohcount on NSIS files :-)
03:54:45 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't done any more work on the repo since giving that to you
03:54:49 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Waiting on an answer from you to go live with 203, please
03:55:03 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good except I have concerns about how it works with plugin installers, especially start=
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03:56:28 <ChrisMorgan> I found a few misbehaviours with plugin installers when making the SH3D plugins; [Details]:Name were both still required even though they were not used.
03:57:39 <JohnTHaller> They are technically required by the spec still.
03:57:58 <ChrisMorgan> Then there was the slight annoyance of it only keeping track of one plugininstaller.ini/PluginEULA.rtf - and of the five plugins, three have an EULA (FAL-1.3, CC-BY-2.5, CC-BY-3.0)... I set EULAVersion=FAL-1.3 etc. after realising it wasn't showing the EULA after the first plugin installed.
03:58:43 <ChrisMorgan> The point is that [Detail]:PluginName is used instead of [Detail]:Name. I think it should either remove the necessity of [Detail]:Name or just use [Detail]:Name and not have [Detail]:PluginName
03:58:45 <JohnTHaller> It doesn't have to exist in the plugin installer, though ${AndIf} $PluginInstaller != "true"
03:58:53 <JohnTHaller> Let it go. We need to get this out now.
03:59:05 <JohnTHaller> 12am here. Need to then release FF, chrome, other criticals before bed.
03:59:24 <JohnTHaller> If any of these were critical bugs, we'd have addressed them weeks ago.
03:59:26 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I reckon it's fine. If you want to, feel free to send me the code and I'll go through it quickly.
04:00:37 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comInstaller_2.0.3.paf.exe
04:02:46 <JohnTHaller> Lemme know if you're happy with it and I'll push it out,.
04:06:44 <ChrisMorgan> Got Armenian this time, I see. You put the NSIS part of it in yourself, correct? It's not yet officially in NSIS?
04:07:28 <JohnTHaller> correct
04:07:39 <JohnTHaller> we didi it once before... but then I forgot it in 202
04:07:40 <ChrisMorgan> I like the VersionInfo download solution
04:07:56 <JohnTHaller> Yeah? I thought it was a pretty simple solution to what has been a nagging problem.
04:08:20 <JohnTHaller> I tested it a few ways. It even will go and download it if the already existing one's MD5 is wrong.
04:08:59 <ChrisMorgan> Ooh, I like w7tbp. That should be moved into the NSIS core.
04:09:15 <JohnTHaller> I know. It's dead easy to implement and it just works.
04:10:03 <JohnTHaller> It can even work with SetProgress if you have it set the progress of the standard NSIS progress bar (which saves us from having to use the more explicit version of w7tbp which you also have to explicitly set).
04:10:37 <JohnTHaller> I have it working in a test version of the updater, which is nice.
04:10:59 <ChrisMorgan> All looks good to me.
04:11:42 <JohnTHaller> Cool. I've been testing it with Google CHrome 6. I'll push out PAI 203 and then start on the outdated apps. Just gonna do criticals tonight. And then more in the AM, then lawyer in the afternoon, then finish tomorrow evening.
04:14:09 <ChrisMorgan> Generates the Virtual Magnifying Glass installer properly, and only 133 bytes larger than the with 2.0.2.
04:14:58 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. The w7 plugin is well done. Nice and simple.
04:15:12 <JohnTHaller> I was worried it would add more to it, but nope :)
04:17:22 <JohnTHaller> btw - thanks again for uploading all the sources. did you notice my new Additional Versions directories?
04:19:05 <JohnTHaller> Argle. I forgot to UTF8-ize the lang files :)
04:19:07 <JohnTHaller> :(
04:19:30 <ChrisMorgan> Additional Versions directories?
04:19:51 <JohnTHaller> In SF. So we don't have to create a new subdirectory for each version in the Source (AppName) directories.
04:20:33 <ChrisMorgan> If I were laying it out afresh I think I'd do Source/AppName/X.X rather than Source (AppName)/AppName X.X Source.
04:20:47 <ChrisMorgan> The language files don't /need/ to be UTF-8. Not worth holding up the release, I reckon.
04:20:49 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. But you couldn't do that back than.
04:20:54 <ChrisMorgan> 2.0.4 is plenty good enuff.
04:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> Couldn't? Why not?
04:21:08 <JohnTHaller> Project / Release
04:21:11 <JohnTHaller> That was it.
04:21:16 <JohnTHaller> And then files within that.
04:23:09 <ChrisMorgan> No, I didn't notice your Additional Versions. Why not just do those ones straight in Source (AppName)?
04:23:26 <JohnTHaller> Because the older ones won't accept files in the project root directory.
04:23:31 <JohnTHaller> Annoying eh?
04:23:40 <JohnTHaller> If you create one from scratch now, it works just fine.
04:24:19 <ChrisMorgan> Not project root, still in one subfolder
04:24:58 <ChrisMorgan> Just noticed PortableApps.comApplicationTemplate_2.0.zip is in zBrokenRelease/PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0... why is it there rather than in the proper Launcher 2.0 directory? (We link to it)
04:25:01 <JohnTHaller> Source (AppName) is unavailable for several old ones to add files directly to
04:25:12 <JohnTHaller> That's a broken one of it, I think.
04:25:27 <JohnTHaller> Things in Broken have corrupted files or permissions and can't be deleted.
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04:27:01 <ChrisMorgan> Lemmesee... I think that is actually the correct one. Didn't see it elsewhere.
04:27:23 <JohnTHaller> Perhaps it can't be deleted and moved. I don't know. Nor do I have time to address it right now.
04:27:29 <ChrisMorgan> I'll try to deal with it.
04:27:33 <ChrisMorgan> See if I can.
04:27:39 <JohnTHaller> Be careful. It's very touchy.
04:28:15 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, I observed that once with Inkscape.
04:29:11 <ChrisMorgan> No, that file is just in zBrokenRelease.
04:29:16 <ChrisMorgan> So find says.
04:30:05 <JohnTHaller> Ok, installer 203 is out. Onto the apps.
04:30:49 <ChrisMorgan> It's just I'm the owner on the file rather than you and the mode is only +r for the group portableapps so you couldn't change it
04:34:00 <ChrisMorgan> Cleared out zBrokenRelease; shall I leave the folder there empty?
04:34:10 <JohnTHaller> See if you can remove it
04:35:25 <ChrisMorgan> Gone.
04:46:01 <JohnTHaller> And Chrome stable and dev are both out
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04:59:34 <JohnTHaller> brb
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05:09:20 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: just going to merge in 2.0.3 into the repo, you didn't make any changes from what you uploaded first?
05:09:37 <JohnTHaller> Nope. The one I sent you from TEMP is final
05:09:39 <ChrisMorgan> Also if/when you can be bothered, you should log in to Ohloh and edit your PortableApps.com experience to link it with commits I've made in your name. Might put you back up to 8... :P
05:10:26 <JohnTHaller> hmm... what's my committer na,e?
05:11:25 <ChrisMorgan> John T. Haller
05:11:45 <ChrisMorgan> That'll also stop it having two of you in the contributor list :P
05:12:20 <JohnTHaller> Heh thanks
05:13:51 <ChrisMorgan> And then when my NSIS parser pull request for Ohcount gets accepted we'll both get a fairly big "experience" boost from NSIS code. :D
05:21:33 <JohnTHaller> Ok, FF369 is uploading. TB313 is building.
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05:24:59 <JohnTHaller> I should add the w7tbp plugin to the appcompactor.
05:26:30 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. To EVERYTHING! :-)
05:27:45 <JohnTHaller> Well, we don't wanna abuse it :-P
05:28:01 <JohnTHaller> But things you run and may minimize and come back to., it's pretty handy
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05:51:06 <pa_5740> JohnTHaller: Nice job on getting updated apps on the site!
05:51:21 <pa_5740> Firefox in paticular.
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05:52:11 <pa_5740> Bye!
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06:07:52 <M4T1A5> yayy chrome has been updated
06:07:55 <M4T1A5> at last!!!
06:08:00 <JohnTHaller> stable and dev
06:08:20 <M4T1A5> extensions sync <3333333
06:11:53 <M4T1A5> also hi JohnTHaller
06:11:58 <JohnTHaller> hi
06:12:43 <M4T1A5> now im just waiting for minecraft portable then my life would be complete :)
06:15:37 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: just changed Portableapps.com to PortableApps.com in the uTorrent "not affiliated" sentence.
06:15:45 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure if that happens anywhere else
06:15:55 <JohnTHaller> k
06:17:07 <M4T1A5> oo a typo
06:17:11 <M4T1A5> sacry
06:17:15 <M4T1A5> *scary
06:27:58 <JohnTHaller> Blah. So the beta version of 7-zip (which we switched to to fix the Unicode bugs) can't open Skype's installer.
06:28:25 <M4T1A5> hey is portableapps.com now on somekind of update frenzy?
06:28:57 <M4T1A5> also i don't see firefox 4 beta 5 which was released yesterday
06:29:24 <JohnTHaller> backlog: http://portableapps.com/node/19705
06:30:18 <M4T1A5> i see
06:30:49 <M4T1A5> what i care most is keepass
06:30:56 <M4T1A5> i want my passwords to be safe
06:31:05 <JohnTHaller> tomorrow am (NY time, that is... it's currenty 230am)
06:31:32 <M4T1A5> it's currently 9.30 am here :P
06:32:52 <M4T1A5> also wouldn't tomorrow mean friday even there?
06:33:16 <JohnTHaller> No, I'm still up on Wed night relatively speaking. So tomorrow means Thurs AM for me.
06:33:27 <M4T1A5> oh ok
06:33:41 <ChrisMorgan> Eep.
06:34:00 <M4T1A5> i usually just say it's the next day if the clock is past 12am
06:34:15 <M4T1A5> because it really is :P
06:34:15 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: So, whaddya think... back to 7-zip stable? And just say don't install to non-ASCII paths for now?
06:34:53 <ChrisMorgan> I dunno. To start with, go to bed ASAP and don't do Skype today (until it really /is/ today :P).
06:35:28 <JohnTHaller> I'm not gonna. I'm just finishing TB now. I threw in the easier apps that show upgrade notifications while I was packaging the big ones using the automated scripts.
06:35:31 <M4T1A5> now who is going to need to open skype installer in 7-zip?
06:35:44 <ChrisMorgan> M4T1A5: the installer
06:35:46 <JohnTHaller> The online installers use 7-Zip to extract files
06:35:51 <M4T1A5> well yes
06:35:53 <JohnTHaller> internally
06:36:10 <M4T1A5> but sure skype hasnät just changed their installers?
06:36:16 <M4T1A5> *hasn't
06:36:21 <ChrisMorgan> Alternatively we could see if something else can open it. Back to stable is probably the best way.
06:36:28 <JohnTHaller> I switched to 7z beta to solve an issue where it would fail if you installed to unicode paths. Unfortunately, the 7z beta can't handle extracting Skuype's MSI. The stable can.
06:36:46 <M4T1A5> interesting
06:37:09 <M4T1A5> maybe you should put a bug report of that later to their forums :P
06:37:26 <JohnTHaller> It doesn't affect any released apps
06:38:13 <M4T1A5> well of course not
06:40:35 <JohnTHaller> And it does work properly with Google Chrome, which also uses it. Just something about the Skype MSI that is stumping it.
06:40:51 <M4T1A5> odd
06:40:55 <M4T1A5> maybe skype has stupid msi
06:40:57 <M4T1A5> :D
06:41:09 <JohnTHaller> Dunno. But 465 has no problem with it.
06:43:12 <JohnTHaller> And TB is up
06:43:32 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I got done what I needed to tonight. Gnight all. More releases in the AM.
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07:08:37 <its-me-again> hi anyone here atm. my version of firefox takes to long to load in Vista y is that.
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07:28:39 <auscompgeek> 9_9
08:30:59 <M4T1A5> lol
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09:58:12 <ChrisMorgan> SteveLamerton: have you got an account oh Ohloh? If so, you should claim the Toucan stuff.
09:58:35 <ChrisMorgan> The details are all there but they're not linked to an account.
10:00:00 <SteveLamerton> Have you got a link? The only Toucan it finds is not the right one when I search ;)
10:00:10 <ChrisMorgan> Just in portableapps
10:00:19 <ChrisMorgan> https://www.ohloh.net/p/portableapps
10:01:15 <SteveLamerton> Ah, I see, thanks
10:01:27 <ChrisMorgan> That's weird... steve_lamerton isn't appearing in https://www.ohloh.net/p/portableapps/contributors :-/
10:01:54 <ChrisMorgan> But still, you should be able to just add experience and select that as your commit name.
10:04:04 <SteveLamerton> It is definitely listed under enlistments
10:04:47 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I know
10:05:12 <ChrisMorgan> And in https://www.ohloh.net/p/portableapps/aliases/new steve_lamerton is there... just not in https://www.ohloh.net/p/portableapps/contributors today.
10:05:43 <ChrisMorgan> I added the hg ones when I started.
10:05:51 <SteveLamerton> How to I add myself to the project though?
10:07:29 <ChrisMorgan> https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/steve_lamerton/positions/new where steve_lamerton is your account name
10:08:01 <ChrisMorgan> 6332...
10:08:20 <ChrisMorgan> And it's old enough that it just gets a number.
10:08:56 <SteveLamerton> Yep, looks like I signed up ages ago!
10:11:52 <SteveLamerton> There we go, added :)
10:12:38 <SteveLamerton> Although I think the stats are way way off
10:13:25 <ChrisMorgan> Probably.
10:13:36 <ChrisMorgan> You decide whether the SVN repo needs to stay, I don't know.
10:14:02 <ChrisMorgan> Hey! Suddenly I'm not the #1 contributor! :P
10:14:10 <SteveLamerton> I guess it ought to, and sorry about that :P
10:14:40 <ChrisMorgan> I wasn't sure whether you moved everything or whether the SVN history should be kept as well, so I just left it in.
10:15:08 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, thats true, I moved the whole lot in the end so it can go, that is probaly why the numbers are messed up ;)
10:15:37 <ChrisMorgan> Good, with you properly added the commits page doesn't produce a 500 whenever a commit from you is on the page. I think the contributor pseudo-account for steve_lamerton was broken a bit.
10:16:23 <ChrisMorgan> I think your "kudo" figure is going to go straight up from 1 to 8 or possibly 9 tomorrow...
10:17:13 <SteveLamerton> After all there is no way I change nearly 5k lines of C++ per month. And hopefully it will rise a bit, looks a little odd with a rank one and the most commits, although that'll drop without the SVN on there
10:19:23 <SteveLamerton> Oh, you might want to tag the 2.0.3 install release too :)
10:21:24 <ChrisMorgan> Look at me - nowhere near as many as you, but 8.
10:21:36 <ChrisMorgan> In the nightly sort out you'll go up to at least 8.
10:21:50 <ChrisMorgan> True, tagged.
10:22:23 <ChrisMorgan> (Ahh... hg is so nice to use after a nightmare having to figure out git to submit an NSIS parser for ohcount...)
10:23:48 <SteveLamerton> I <3 hg
10:24:11 <ChrisMorgan> Me too. And now I've actually tried all three of hg, bzr and git, so my very strong preference for hg is founded.
10:32:46 <SteveLamerton> I gave up on git after it said I had to use cygwin on windows
10:36:00 <SteveLamerton> Although I believe that has changed now
10:38:16 <SteveLamerton> ChrisMorgan: Are you going to remove SVN or should I?
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11:21:22 <ChrisMorgan> MsysGit is vaguely tolerable now, I believe. But worse than hg/bzr on win32.
11:21:24 <ChrisMorgan> You do it.
11:24:12 <SteveLamerton> Ok, I have to vanish now, talk soon
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14:09:50 <pa_8756> hello
14:10:42 <pa_8756> Quick question.... If I want to re-organize the menu on portable apps, how would I do that? I want to group all my games together, internet apps together etc..
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14:21:34 <sar3th> [itowler]: it's not possible yet as far as i know
14:26:12 <[itowler]> sar3th: thanks....
14:27:19 <sar3th> but groups are planned in a future version of the portableapps platform
14:27:59 <[itowler]> sounds great!
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14:33:52 <Horusofoz> Hey all
14:33:58 <sar3th> hi Horusofoz
14:34:39 <Horusofoz> Just wanted to check if anyone else is having issues with the PortableApps.com Logo in the top left of the site pages?
14:35:20 <Horusofoz> By that I mean is it showing? I'm getting the broken image box on all pages
14:35:26 <sar3th> works fine for me
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14:37:55 <Horusofoz> sar3th: Not sure what was happening. Just did another cache clear and now it's working. No biggy.
14:38:02 <sar3th> good :)
14:42:23 <Horusofoz> Nite all
14:42:45 <sar3th> good night Horusofoz
14:43:37 <SteveLamerton> Hi and bye Horusofoz
14:43:45 <sar3th> hello SteveLamerton
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14:43:51 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th
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14:44:23 <sar3th> how are things going SteveLamerton?
14:44:35 <SteveLamerton> Busy as ever, you?
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14:44:52 <sar3th> practising for an exam
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15:34:41 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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16:35:20 <pa_4529> hello
16:35:50 <pa_4529> help
16:35:51 <GizmoBot> pa_4529: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
16:36:31 <sar3th> hello pa_4529, how can we help you?
16:36:44 <pa_4529> hi to you too
16:37:01 <pa_4529> just like to advise that the link to download the new virtual magnyfier glass doesn't work
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17:11:53 <greg___> hi everyone
17:12:24 <greg___> i put my netbeans ide on my usb device
17:13:34 <greg___> but the netbeans .exe in on the /bin file, so this doesn't apear onthe portable app's menu
17:14:20 <greg___> how can i change the path of the start menu, tho make my netbens icon apear there?
17:16:20 <sar3th> hi greg___
17:16:38 <sar3th> there is not a official way of doing this, but it can be done
17:21:20 <greg___> how ?
17:21:42 <greg___> did you know?
17:22:43 <greg___> i've try to find the file where the apps launch are setting but i didn't find it
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17:26:42 <greg___> thanks sar3th for the help
17:26:45 <greg___> i got go
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17:27:24 <sar3th> too bad i forgot to hit enter after writing my response :<
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19:16:48 <Drive-Dude> Hi Is it just me because I can not download Virtual Magnifying Glass 3.4 it just says Error 500 This page is unavailable at the moment.Please try again shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
19:17:07 <sar3th> no, it has been reported earlier and does not work for me either
19:18:46 <Drive-Dude> I was thinking that it was maybe just me
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19:27:10 <Drive-Dude> I am gonna go now. But have a nice day or night
19:27:18 <sar3th> bye
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21:23:38 <Drive-Dude> Hi I am thinking of buying a new USB Flash Drive. Will it work if I transfer everything from the old drive to computer and then to new drive. Without need to re install my softwares
21:24:21 <Drive-Dude> Because my computer gets funny when 2 drives are online
21:24:48 <Drive-Dude> Would everything work right
21:25:01 <Computator> it should
21:25:40 <Drive-Dude> or would it be better if I just re install my softwares
21:26:03 <Computator> either would work
21:26:13 <Drive-Dude> thanks
21:26:17 <Computator> i don't forsee any problems w/ just copying
21:26:19 <Computator> yw :)
21:30:57 <Drive-Dude> You have no idea how much work and time you have saved to me. I was to believe that I have to re install everything. When I have saved everything from my old and kinda malfunctioning drive I do destroy in pieceses just to be sure nobody get to my files or recovers them.
21:32:06 <Drive-Dude> and who wantes malfunctioning drive anyway
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21:32:41 <Drive-Dude> I am gonna go now.
21:32:49 <Drive-Dude> Have a nice day or night
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23:07:35 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: May I PM you about something?
23:07:42 <ChrisMorgan> Not at the moment
23:08:10 <pa_5740> Alright. You're leaving soon I assume?
23:10:00 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: I found Lupo Suite on another site.
23:10:25 <pa_5740> ChrisMorgan: Lupo PenSuite, rather.
23:12:02 <pa_5740> http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-portable-programs.htm
23:12:43 <ChrisMorgan> As I said last time (by the search link I gave you), he's a Bad Guy.
23:14:39 <pa_5740> OK.
23:14:54 <pa_5740> Meanwhile......
23:15:10 <pa_5740> ZachThibeau: How's PChat coming?
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23:38:40 <Computator> ok, so what are the 2 keyboard shortcuts to show the PA menu? i can't ever remember
23:39:14 <Computator> and the menu is the PAL right? or PAM? icr that either
23:49:42 <Computator> anyone?
23:50:41 <Computator> ok
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