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02:01:06 <irvin> Can anyone tell me why i can't change my USB's name. It just says protable apps and dosn't let me change
02:01:24 <JohnTHaller1> because it's named in the autorun.inf
02:01:39 <JohnTHaller1> In the PA.c Menu, just click on PortableApps.com in the lower left corned and you can rename it there
02:01:59 <JohnTHaller1> Or edit autorun.inf manually. (Note that Explorer won't show the change until you eject and re-insert or reboot)
02:02:31 <irvin> ok tx
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03:25:10 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't heard anything from eTeks for Sweet Home 3D yet.
03:28:19 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Give them a week or so and then remind em
03:29:22 <JohnTHaller> btw - we have a go from Opera
03:29:47 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good.
03:30:02 <ChrisMorgan> Now all we need is that from Oracle... *sigh*
03:30:30 <ChrisMorgan> I also noticed the quiet mention of the commercial agreement being ready on the PAI 2.0.4 release :-)
03:32:14 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Just finished it. Final once-over by one more person tonight just to be sure. Should have a couple signed this week
03:32:28 <ChrisMorgan> Also thanks for dealing with VMG. I was intending to take a look at that later today.
03:32:52 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Just did a custom launcher for it. When you have time, feel free to do a PAL for it. I'd rather move it to that
03:34:34 * ChrisMorgan tries to remember whether he did the PAL version for it with 3.4
03:34:55 <JohnTHaller> Nope
03:35:35 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I left it with just the very simple NSIS code.
03:36:12 <ChrisMorgan> The issue is weird though, because I did take proper shots of it and I'm sure I would have noticed if it had left it in APPDATA.
03:36:59 <JohnTHaller> Well, it apparently switched from the file next to it to it being in APPDATA in 3.4. If you already had that file in there (from the earlier failed build) regshot would miss it
03:37:54 <ChrisMorgan> I don't believe I would have had it there - and I even changed settings, so if it had saved them there surely it would have noticed the change (seeing as I have it scanning all of C:)..?
03:38:13 <ChrisMorgan> Anyhow, it just shows that I need to be more careful.
03:39:12 <JohnTHaller> I do my regshotting in a clean VM
03:39:52 <ChrisMorgan> I did too
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05:24:42 * ChrisMorgan likes the long list of "Open Source Release" rows in /tracker :-)
05:26:09 <JohnTHaller> heh
05:26:15 <ChrisMorgan> (But Google Chrome isn't Open Source, just changed it to Freeware - for some weird reason it took three attempts to get the change to stick.)
05:26:18 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/news/2010-09-22_-_xnview_portable_1.97.8#comment-158431
05:26:27 <JohnTHaller> Probably because the server is busy
05:27:06 <ChrisMorgan> Ah. Didn't realise that was regularly scheduled. I just know that it happens quite regularly. And I suppose it is at a fairly consistent time of day.
05:27:40 <JohnTHaller> figured this was during the lowest usage
05:29:00 <JohnTHaller> ff4b6 is uploading now...
05:29:03 <ChrisMorgan> I think I would probably have arrived at that conclusion anyway from checking what HTTP 503 meant (I was pretty sure I knew anyway), but I happened to notice the outage today so it was a logical step.
05:29:48 <JohnTHaller> I think I'll put a custom error on that, perhaps
05:30:31 <ChrisMorgan> That'd be a good idea, if you can get the error codes.
05:30:46 <JohnTHaller> Well, I do. That's how they're displayed :)
05:30:57 <ChrisMorgan> Ah
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05:31:54 <ChrisMorgan> Uh oh... suddenly I realise that my sound isn't working at all, detecting no hardware for it... what was that last batch of updates I just installed?
05:36:12 <JohnTHaller> Eeek
05:36:19 <JohnTHaller> Could try a reboot or reinstalling the drivers
05:39:46 <ChrisMorgan> Drivers? Hah! This is Ubuntu, you don't need special drivers for sound cards ;-)
05:40:16 <JohnTHaller> Well, you do. ANd you have to hope they're built in. Because if they're not, get used to the sound of silence.
05:41:02 <ChrisMorgan> Not /special/ drivers though. Just the normal stuff that comes with it (and on one CD, rather than one half-filled DVD like Windows...)
05:43:51 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'll try restarting to see if it does anything. And if not, then I'll try reverting the kernel from 2.6.32-24 back to 2.6.32-23 (though that was installed day before yesterday, two restarts ago)
05:44:01 <JohnTHaller> Win7 has decent hardware support. So does Ubuntu. Sadly neither support my old scanner, so I had to buy a new one.
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05:47:06 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, old scanners don't tend to work well with Linux or modern/64-bit Windows.
06:06:53 <JohnTHaller> Ok. We're mostly up to date now. http://portableapps.com/node/19705
06:07:05 <JohnTHaller> I also reorganized the page a bit.
06:27:20 <JohnTHaller> alright... gnight all
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13:35:19 <ChrisMorgan> I'd like opinions on what should be done with http://portableapps.com/node/17667
13:36:22 <ChrisMorgan> Thread is a year and a half old, then a new user posts a comment on it and a 40-week user with one post (on a half-a-year-old thread) comments five minutes later...
13:37:37 <ChrisMorgan> I think I've decided the first post is just self-promotional (the site is practically unheard of and it's just a weird thread)
13:37:49 <ChrisMorgan> But the second one five minutes ago has me slightly confused.
13:37:54 <ChrisMorgan> Anyone got any opinions on it?
13:37:59 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: leave it.
13:38:30 <ChrisMorgan> At the very least, I'll remove the link in signature (and I think the homepage should go too.)
13:38:32 <Gizmokid2005> techbeta seems to be a semi-known site.
13:38:59 <ChrisMorgan> I was meaning cregox.info
13:39:05 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, the website should at least be in the profile not the sig
13:39:08 <Gizmokid2005> other than that, leave it.
13:39:12 <ChrisMorgan> With caue, the new account.
13:39:23 <Gizmokid2005> They're doing what people say to (SEARCH FIRST) and they did
13:39:27 <Gizmokid2005> and updated it so others can find it.
13:39:30 <Gizmokid2005> nothing wrong there
13:39:52 <ChrisMorgan> It looks to me quite clearly like the "I want to advertise my site, I'll look for a sneaky way of doing it" type. But it's not as obvious as others I /have/ killed.
13:40:01 <ChrisMorgan> 'Cos it actually does sort of add something.
13:40:17 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
13:40:29 <Gizmokid2005> he might've just innocently added it because it's typical on forums to do that
13:40:36 <Gizmokid2005> it looks like a personal site rather than a "trying to sell you something" site
13:41:17 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I'll leave it in the homepage.
13:41:48 <ChrisMorgan> The more I look at it the more I can see it could be innocent. Just came across as "another of those" at first only a bit more sneaky.
13:41:51 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks :-)
13:43:13 <Gizmokid2005> No problem
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14:36:18 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
14:36:41 <computerfreaker> ChrisMorgan: got a few minutes? I'm having some trouble with PAL, and I'd like your input.
14:36:55 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: yep
14:39:33 <computerfreaker> Thanks. I'm trying to get Chrome's portable passwords working with Iron, but I keep getting errors. I tried installing Chrome Portable and replacing the Chrome files with Iron's, so it's got to be a problem with my launcher. I've been over it a zillion times, though, with no luck in finding the problem.
14:40:17 <computerfreaker> http://pastebin.com/VMbiSym9 is my custom-code segment for PAL.
14:41:20 <computerfreaker> It always fails on ExportPasswords, with the error "Can't open source database"
14:42:20 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, just filing a Processing.js bug first...
14:43:37 <computerfreaker> ok, np
14:44:19 <ChrisMorgan> Done. https://processing-js.lighthouseapp.com/projects/41284-processingjs/tickets/899-learning-ide-reload-gets-frame-rate-wrong :-)
14:44:48 * ChrisMorgan has been dealing a lot more with JavaScript than NSIS in the past few weeks
14:47:17 <ChrisMorgan> Does Portable Passwords exist?
14:47:24 <ChrisMorgan> I don't expect that's the issue
14:47:43 <computerfreaker> yeah, it exists all right. Other\Source\ChromePasswords exists, as does Other\Source\ChromePasswords\Release
14:48:00 <ChrisMorgan> I mean $ProfileDirectory\$7\Portable Passwords
14:48:31 <computerfreaker> No, that never gets created. I haven't had a chance to try ImportPasswords, since ExportPasswords keeps erroring out.
14:49:40 <ChrisMorgan> Possible cause (don't have Chrome source handy) -- are the files meant to go in the other way round?
14:50:03 <ChrisMorgan> Check that the argument list is correct. I reckon that's the most likely cause.
14:50:38 <computerfreaker> Both ImportPasswords and ExportPasswords are copied directly from the Chrome launcher, so I don't think that's likely. I'll try switching the args and see what happens, though.
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14:51:58 <ChrisMorgan> You could also try putting in a MessageBox MB_OK $7 in the If to see what it's actually matching at that point. I presume it'd be correct, but you never quite know.
14:52:14 <computerfreaker> I've tried that, and the path is correct.
14:52:30 <computerfreaker> brb, I have to close Iron so I can test it.
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14:54:04 <ChrisMorgan> Should I go before he comes back? ;-)
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14:54:11 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
14:54:16 <ChrisMorgan> Too late ;-)
14:54:23 <computerfreaker> ChrisMorgan: no dice. Still "Cannot open source database"
14:55:00 <computerfreaker> *glances over logs to see the meaning of ChrisMorgan's last message* lol :P
14:55:03 <ChrisMorgan> One thing just occurred to me - have you tried compiling the Google Chrome Portable launcher with NSISu to see if /it/ works compiled with that?
14:55:30 <computerfreaker> No, that never occurred to me. I'll try that immediately.
14:55:49 <ChrisMorgan> Anyhow, whether that works or not, I'm going to bed now. G'nite.
14:55:56 <computerfreaker> Bye, thanks for the help!
14:56:23 <ChrisMorgan> Come back another day if it doesn't work and I might have my USB disk with me rather than in my bedroom ten metres away :-)
14:56:32 <computerfreaker> ok
14:56:42 <computerfreaker> I'll leave a message in the logs, telling you if it works or not.
14:57:06 <ChrisMorgan> If you .tell me then I'll be sure I get it. I'll probably forget to read the logs.
14:57:12 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks, bye
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15:03:59 <computerfreaker> By all the thunder and lightning, that's the problem!!
15:04:04 <Mercury044> ?
15:04:18 <computerfreaker> Just a development issue I was having ;)
15:04:25 <Mercury044> ahhh
15:04:33 <Mercury044> is iron ready for testing??
15:05:00 <computerfreaker> If you want to test it, I'd be very appreciative. It's actually just about ready for an official release, once I get this worked out.
15:05:20 <Mercury044> where can i find it? the forums?
15:05:29 <computerfreaker> Just a sec, I'll grab the link for you.
15:05:55 <computerfreaker> http://portableapps.com/node/22380
15:06:06 <computerfreaker> You can leave any feedback there, too.
15:06:54 <Mercury044> kk d/ling now
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