IRC Log from 2010-09-25

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04:44:32 <Spaceghost> hello
04:45:17 <Spaceghost> can I use some portable app to use easly the Dvorak keyboard where I go?
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04:47:25 <pa_5270> question. if you want to upgrade firefox or chrome for portableapps, do you need to check back with this site to download the upgrades or can you just follow the standard upgrade notification from the browsers?
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05:56:29 <pa_5737> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/25012#comment-158547
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07:25:29 <Abracadabra> hello everyone
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11:26:01 <pa_1804> SPAM - http://portableapps.com/node/25042
11:26:21 <pa_1804> Pretty sure same one as reported earlier
11:26:39 <pa_1804> also is there an official way to report spam or is this cool?
11:29:45 <pa_1804> ok I'll take that as it's all cool. Sayonara :)
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11:52:36 <pa_0038> hello, is someone that officialy represents portableapps ?
12:01:28 <BeckySanderlin> hi
12:06:26 <pa_0038> hi
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12:06:59 <Vas> are your representing portableapps.com ?
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12:08:08 <Vas> sorry for disconnecting, did i miss any answer?
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13:26:11 <Gizmokid2005> Vas: depending on what you want an answer to, you can ask here, post in the forums, or email the site owner from the contact page
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13:32:20 <Vas> it has to do about getting legal permission on using sourcforge download links to my site
13:32:38 <Vas> which has to do with catalog of portable applications on the net
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14:20:47 <Simeon> Vas: I think it would be better to link to the application pages as they always have the updated link to the download.
14:21:52 <Simeon> But if you want to, you naturally can link to sourceforge. There is nothing I know of that would speak against it.
14:22:33 <Simeon> and btw, Im not the site owner, just a long time member and developer.
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14:51:13 <Gizmokid2005> Vas Simeon is right. Best idea is to link to the app's page so you are always linking to the most up to date copy of the application
14:51:41 <Simeon-gone> hi Gizmokid2005 :)
14:51:47 <Gizmokid2005> Hello Simeon-gone
14:52:17 <Simeon-gone> actually it should be Simeon-to-be-gone-in-a-minute ;)
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18:02:53 <Vas> hmm maybe it is a good idea but for now i dont want to redirect other portals
18:03:06 <Vas> since mine will be in greek language
18:04:06 <Vas> anyway, i sent an email to developers@ .. i couldnt find the owner's email on the site
18:05:08 <Vas> except if it provides xml the portableapps.com for these cases
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18:19:53 <Simeon> xml?
18:20:15 <Vas> for parsing online content
18:20:25 <Vas> anyway, forget it
18:20:34 <Simeon> portableapps.com doesnt have xml for that purpose
18:20:44 <Vas> ok
18:21:26 <Simeon> I'd link to sourceforge then. It might take a while till you get an answer as John (the main dev at portableapps.com) is very busy.
18:22:19 <Vas> ok i , linking on sourceforge is ok with me. i sent an email in case that there any legal conflict about putting these links on your own portal
18:22:53 <Simeon> shouldnt be. everyone can link everything as far as I know.
18:25:59 <Simeon> is you page already online? could you post a link?
18:48:43 <Vas> not yet, actually it is but not stuffed, only the demo template environment
18:49:05 <Simeon> ok. I was just curious :)
18:49:12 <Vas> same domain with .gr instead of com :)
18:50:16 <Vas> i hope in december will be live, since it is a free site with no profit i cannot dedicate days me and my staff to have it ready imediately, even the template is not ours
18:50:43 <Simeon> you have Itunes?
18:50:53 <Vas> it is just for the greek community.
18:51:00 <Vas> no, it's only demo stuffed
18:51:39 <Simeon> I just know that thats the first thing people will say: "they have illegal software"!
18:51:42 <Vas> you see the template just how it have been bought
18:51:56 <Simeon> I know.
18:52:25 <Vas> they can say whatever they want, since i will only have legal portable applications
18:52:38 <Simeon> good to hear.
18:52:39 <Vas> and only sourceforge links, no rapidshare and etc
18:52:57 <Simeon> there are lots of unlegit people around. Glad you're not one of them!
18:53:19 <Vas> i dont afraid to say that i will have portableapps.com for my guide
18:53:40 <Vas> since i know that what it is in it, it definetly legal
18:54:22 <Vas> hey.. if i was trying to put illegal stuff, would i be the kind of person who would a typical permission for using the souyrceforge links ?
18:54:24 <Vas> :)
18:54:24 <Simeon> John has been talking to me about opening portableapps.com up to translations for quite a while.
18:54:46 <Simeon> certainly not :)
18:54:51 <Vas> in my email i ask if there is any case of cooperatinh, i have no pb
18:55:01 <Vas> i sent it to developers email
18:55:29 <Simeon> that was my thought. maybe you could provide the translations for portableapps.com/gr
18:56:16 <Vas> if they are no deadlines, sure, anything to help the community
18:56:52 <Vas> imagine that i own a web development company nearly 10 years.. this does not mean that i forgot how it is to give something back in free and legal communities
18:57:10 <Simeon> we have a couple of pages in german and russian, but its more of a hack and not really embedded into the layout.
18:57:37 <Vas> more of a hack=?
18:57:46 <Simeon> that sounds great. Some people often forget where they started...
18:58:43 <Simeon> hack: look at the layout: http://portableapps.com/de it has 2 menus. Thats what I was talking about
19:00:12 <Vas> was this done by purpose?
19:00:16 <Vas> or it is a bug?
19:00:37 <Simeon> its a bug.the layout isnt ready for localisations
19:01:12 <Vas> any hint in drupal's site?
19:01:18 <Vas> or module
19:02:43 <Simeon> not sure. afaik, right now its individual sites and not the drupal translation module.
19:03:10 <Vas> i see
19:03:44 <Vas> i have to leave for the moment, are you getting daily in here?
19:04:13 <Simeon> dunno depends if I find the time.
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19:31:07 <Simeon> hi tim
19:32:08 <TimClark> Hello Simeon
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23:05:13 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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23:14:16 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable.
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23:35:10 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
23:35:26 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
23:35:34 <ZachThibeau> whats new?
23:35:46 <JohnTHaller> not much. workin on the app directory this weekend
23:36:00 <JohnTHaller> and tried minecraft for the first time. may ask em about a PAF of it
23:36:04 <JohnTHaller> u?
23:36:58 <ZachThibeau> well been busy with work, just finished a 12 hour job of rewaxing floors at the building I clean
23:37:21 <JohnTHaller> sounds like you could use a break
23:43:21 <ZachThibeau> wish I could, I got work still on PChat, I'm trying to get enough done to do a tech preview for the middle of october
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23:46:51 <Simeon> hi all hi John
23:46:56 <auscompgeek> hey guys
23:47:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy Simeon
23:47:42 <Simeon> did you see the logs John about Vas?
23:47:51 <JohnTHaller> Vas
23:47:51 <JohnTHaller> ?
23:47:56 <JohnTHaller> hi simeon
23:49:06 <Simeon> he was asking wether he could link to our sf.net downloads.Aparently he is planning a portable apps directoryn thing in greek.
23:50:12 <JohnTHaller> I think I saw an email about that. They're using portableapps.gr, which is dangerously close to our trademark. I'd be much happier if he wanted to come on board as a translator for portableapps.com/gr
23:51:45 <Simeon> I talked to him about /gr. didnt know portableapps.com was trademarked. he said he sent you an email about it. Maybe you can ask him to come aboard?
23:52:32 <Simeon> btw any news on the translation or is other stuff more important?
23:53:21 <JohnTHaller> I'm working on the new app directory this weekend to allow translations.
23:53:40 <Simeon> cool. looking forward to it :)
23:53:55 <JohnTHaller> You translate the description and features once for each language. Then on updates, I just enter the version, download, md5, etc for each language and it syncs out to all the pages and the updater.
23:54:24 <Simeon> sounds a lot easier than the manual stuff we have in place.
23:54:47 <Simeon> are you using the drupal module?
23:54:48 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Currently I have to update 4 different pages in multiple places and the updater.ini for each FF, TB, etc release.
23:55:17 <JohnTHaller> We're using CCK for the app directory. ANd then the standard translation/localization modules. And then a CCK sync module to sync the pages up.
23:57:07 <Vas> i am here
23:57:33 <JohnTHaller> Hi Vas
23:57:38 <Vas> Hi john
23:58:34 <Simeon> hi Vas :)
23:58:43 <Vas> Is something with the name? i didnt know portableapps is internationaly registered this name
23:58:44 <JohnTHaller> So, Simeon was telling me you wanted to set up a portable app directory in Greek
23:58:57 <Vas> right
23:59:28 <JohnTHaller> portableapps.com is a registered trademark in the US (circle R as opposed to TM, meaning it's registered on-file as unique at the patent and trademark office) like Mozilla, Firefox, etc