IRC Log from 2010-10-11

00:00:43 <ChrisMorgan> Combining them with CCK and Views could, I think, make the app directory work well (much as you're currently redoing it, though possibly not quite so customisable in the actual page contents), app support tickets to replace support forums (including proper status things like fixed, etc.), could also be used for keeping track of things with non-app projects like the Release Team or Launcher development or things like that. But it'd be
00:00:43 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: ah nice
00:01:27 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan: fyi, you were truncated
00:01:41 <ChrisMorgan> Arg, forgot about that. Where?
00:01:54 <sar3th> [...] But it'd be [TRUNC]
00:02:02 <ChrisMorgan> even more work.
00:02:20 <JohnTHaller> Drupal Project module is alpha and will likely never be stable despite being used on drupal.org.
00:03:16 <ChrisMorgan> I find the way the Project family works a bit weird. It just doesn't have enough push behind it - even though it's crucial to the workings of drupal.org, still it gets little attention. And as to what will happen with it for Drupal 7...
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00:04:08 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: one important thing with the new app directory is a value of some sort for the launcher source; PortableApps.com Launcher, included or n/a (not open source or no launcher)
00:04:25 <JohnTHaller> Browsing for modules is awful
00:04:48 <ChrisMorgan> There are definitely some usability issues for it - but that's what Views is for.
00:05:03 <JohnTHaller> Views barely works, so I'd rather nothing important depend on it.
00:05:18 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, it's not as stable as I could wish either.
00:05:25 <JohnTHaller> On every upgrade, I have to recreate the tracker and more news pages
00:06:16 <ChrisMorgan> (I changed another few app pages to link to the Launcher in their source line; the list of released apps that I'm aware of that use PAL is in a comment in the Opera thing when someone asked about what happens with power failure, if you want it.)
00:06:42 <JohnTHaller> ok
00:09:17 <ChrisMorgan> Also for the RT thing I'll see if I can get a bit more time to sort out the validation part of my Development Toolkit and release it by itself for the RT to use, just to run it over apps to get the basic PAF compliance thing.
00:09:32 <JohnTHaller> cool
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00:31:30 <ZachThibeau> got an updater plugin for PChat , the portable version will look for PChat Portable homepage (just in case users don't use the platform to run the platform updater) and the standard desktop version will check for new desktop release by checking the version string and tries to match it to the installer on my project page IE PChat_Setup-(version).exe :)
00:33:06 <ZachThibeau> probably make a custom code portion for the PortableApps.com Installer to make it an optional component
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00:46:11 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: You can check for the existence of the PA.c Env Vars to know if they are using the platform (and hence the updater)
00:48:20 <ZachThibeau> I could do that I suppose
00:49:45 <ZachThibeau> I'll do that tomorrow since I'll have the time, Canadian thanks giving for me (had the dinner today though), so I'll have all day
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01:34:26 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller|away: did you get my email?
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02:08:19 <pa_9630> utorrent portable app is broken
02:08:49 <pa_9630> dialog box says "utorrent.exe could not be found"
02:09:07 <pa_9630> exe is named utorrentportable.exe. Tried renaming, didn't work
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03:14:17 <JohnTHaller> OliverK|partyHat: The last email I have from you is from yesterday 1am when you said you'd have an answer later once you had more time.
03:16:43 <OliverK|partyHat> there was another I sent, requesting that you let me know when we could talk on tuesday or wednesday. If its tuesday, it will have to be late in the day. Wednesday I'll have to work around my classes
03:18:22 <JohnTHaller> WHat time zone are you in?
03:18:51 <OliverK|partyHat> CST
03:19:00 <OliverK|partyHat> .t utc
03:19:01 <GizmoBot> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:19:01
03:19:19 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'm EDT/NY time
03:19:51 <OliverK|partyHat> you want to just deal with it now?
03:19:56 <JohnTHaller> Sure
03:20:02 <OliverK|partyHat> I was going to do something tonight, but i don't feel like
03:20:12 <OliverK|partyHat> might as well deal with this
03:20:54 <JohnTHaller> You wanna do it via PM or in the -dev chatroom?
03:21:26 <OliverK|partyHat> -dev will work fine, if you wish not to clutter this room
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04:53:10 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
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11:48:55 <pa_7282> Major Spam action happening - http://portableapps.com/user/159016
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11:55:39 <benedikt93> woah, this guy is really messing up a lot
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12:40:55 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
12:41:42 <ZachThibeau> I see (I hope I saw correctly) you took care of the latest spam attack on the site
12:42:03 <ChrisMorgan> I did.
12:42:20 <ZachThibeau> excellent
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12:55:41 <benedikt93> ChrisMorgan, at http://portableapps.com/forums the "last post"s are still messed up
12:56:12 <ChrisMorgan> benedikt93: how so?
12:56:52 <benedikt93> ah, sry, was my browser's cache
12:59:46 <ZachThibeau> hmm I should save my money to get a plane ticket for oscon 2011
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19:59:23 <Y3K> Hi everybody!
19:59:48 <Y3K> Is someone there to talk? I need a little help :-/
20:00:23 <Y3K> help!
20:00:23 <GizmoBot> Y3K: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
20:01:42 <Y3K> Ok, the thing is... I'm a completly newbie with all this "PortableApp" stuff, and as you can think, I want to make my first PortableApp (testing with Winamp right now).
20:02:24 <Y3K> And, well... This is going to sound stupid but I have no idea about how start!
20:03:15 <Y3K> I readed a this post: http://portableapps.com/node/14868 and a lot more of articles/threads but I can't find a "First App Guide" or something like that.
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20:04:29 <Y3K> I think that is necesary a "Step by Step" guide, I don't know when to put the App files in the App format folder for example.
20:04:54 <Y3K> Well, that's all :P
20:05:25 <Y3K> If there's any "step by step" guide I haven't found it, please tell me where is it!
20:05:28 <Y3K> Thank you :)
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20:08:51 <Y3K> Does the chat "kick out" of the room by itself?
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21:16:01 <Y3K> Well I think everybody is busy right now.
21:16:05 <Y3K> See you later guys.
21:16:06 <Y3K> Thanks...
21:19:15 <ChrisMorgan> Y3K: what was your question?
21:19:27 <ChrisMorgan> I wasn't in when you asked it so missed it, sorry.
21:20:20 <ChrisMorgan> Y3K: before trying Winamp, know that (a) it's fairly hard and (b) it's already been done
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21:21:18 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well.
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21:51:42 <cheasee> great! <3
21:52:55 <cheasee> im looking for some texteditor :)
21:53:10 <cheasee> notepad isnt enough for me to look in text files
21:53:36 <cheasee> notepad++ wants to be installed also :/
21:53:46 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean?
21:53:46 <cheasee> notepad++ portable*
21:54:44 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean "wants to be installed"?
21:54:50 <cheasee> i need something to search in textfiles, usually in better texteditors like ultraedit or similar, i rather tend to use freeware apps
21:55:03 <ChrisMorgan> Then what's wrong with Notepad++?
21:55:23 <cheasee> well, i downloaded http://portableapps.com/apps/development/notepadpp_portable but the exe is a setup, not the program itself
21:55:38 <ChrisMorgan> It's a PortableApps.com Installer.
21:56:12 <ChrisMorgan> It's not just a single file. Nothing is. Run that, and then you get Notepad++ Portable.
21:57:46 <benedikt93> And it only extracts its files, nothing more.
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22:01:24 <cheasee> well i like tools like putty/kitty-portable, pscsp, as ssd benchmark, siw, utorrent(tough i rarely use it), truecrypt and similar .. exe only or exe with few additional files .. :)
22:01:30 <cheasee> ah it just extracts... i see
22:01:44 <cheasee> ah nice :)
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