IRC Log from 2010-10-13

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02:03:55 <pa_5785> help
02:04:32 <sar3th> hi pa_5785, how can we help you?
02:05:08 <pa_5785> i am unable to get the latest Abiword protable to work on Win Pe 3.0, prev versions did, i get the splash and then nothing ARE there OLDER vers avail for download so i can see what ver was first to break?
02:05:42 <OliverK> yep
02:06:35 <pa_5785> perhaps you would be so wise and kind to let me know where i can find vers older than 2..4.5 (it worked)
02:08:13 <OliverK> lemme look
02:08:45 <pa_5785> i will wait, for sure..
02:10:49 <OliverK> sorry, firefox is being slow tonight
02:12:29 <OliverK> actually, it looks like source forge is down. http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ you need to go there, then you can search for abiword and find the appropriate version
02:12:50 <OliverK> it may be that something on my side is blocking my access to it
02:14:09 <pa_5785> thanks .. will give it a try..bye
02:14:14 <OliverK> no prob
02:14:19 <sar3th> pa_5785: wait a second
02:14:37 <pa_5785> ok, i am back.. j p
02:14:49 <sar3th> is version 2.8.6 ok?
02:15:30 <sar3th> ah sorry, 286 is the current one
02:17:06 <pa_5785> No, the proble i am having is with 2.8.6 on WinPe 3.0 booting off a USB HD, The image is based off Winbuilder and Win7rescue roject
02:19:15 <pa_5785> ALL the OTHER portable Apps that i updated (ie Notepad++, VLC, Opera.Firefox ALL work, in fact i an running Opera 10 Portable on the Win Pe 3 USB HD as i type this.
02:19:21 <sar3th> sar3th: http://sar3th.pastebin.com/Ng5iUyXq
02:19:25 <sar3th> pa_5785: http://sar3th.pastebin.com/Ng5iUyXq
02:19:45 <sar3th> there are the links to all the abiword portable versions i can find on sf
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03:12:55 <pa_1256> To All. I Imed earlier about problem i was having with AbiWord Portable 2.8.6 and trying to execute under WinPe 3.0 Boot USB HD
03:14:19 <sar3th> yea
03:14:37 <pa_1256> I found a FIX for MY problem, that MAY help others. I have added comments to ABIWORD forum on www.portableapps.com that details the fix that worked for me. It may help others with similar execution problem for ver 2.8.6 of Abiwordportable..
03:15:04 <sar3th> great!
03:15:43 <pa_1256> Thanks for everyone that pointed me to the OLDER vers of Abiword Portable..
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05:00:55 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
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05:05:56 <sar3th> site having trouble :<
05:06:23 <Bensawsome> sar3th backups at 1 am :P
05:06:28 <Bensawsome> also its back up
05:06:45 <Bensawsome> wtf is up with all the opera updates
05:07:09 <auscompgeek> lol
05:07:43 <auscompgeek> If only Opera Turbo didn't exist, then Opera could die :P
05:08:05 <sar3th> haha auscompgeek
05:08:23 <JohnTHaller> The website does backups at 1am EDT each night. The site is usually down for approximately 5 to 6 minutes. I just added a friendlier message to it, too.
05:08:29 <JohnTHaller> Opera 10.63 just went live
05:08:40 <sar3th> nice
05:08:46 <Bensawsome> told ya sar3th :P
05:08:56 <Bensawsome> gawd
05:09:00 <Bensawsome> not believeing my
05:09:03 <Bensawsome> *me
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05:11:47 <sar3th> i did believe you Bensawsome, my message was related to the opera release ;)
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05:13:17 <sar3th> auscompgeek: imo, there are lots of reasons why opera has (earned) its place in the browser landscape :)
05:13:21 <JohnTHaller> Ok, it's live on the homepage and the updater
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05:18:07 <sar3th> cool
05:18:13 <sar3th> i have to leave now, see ya
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08:26:26 <M4T1A5> i like the new poker game
08:26:27 <M4T1A5> was fun
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12:00:50 <shrinkydink> anyone else having trouble with FoxitReaderPortable sticky splashscreen?
12:02:19 <shrinkydink> for me, FoxitReaderPortable splashscreen sticks around until I click it, and creating FoxitReaderPortable.ini [FoxitReaderPortable] DisableSplashScreen=true doesn't work
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12:09:46 <shrinkydink> if someone has a clue about FoxitReaderPortable sticky splash, please answer, i'll check the irc logs later, bye
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13:32:48 <tsilenzio> hello everone. I had a quick question
13:33:09 <sar3th> go ahead and ask :)
13:33:15 <tsilenzio> Thank you.
13:33:59 <tsilenzio> Is it possible to use PortableApp Launcher to launch Apps such as: Portable Photoshop, or Portable UltraEdit+
13:34:22 <tsilenzio> Kind of like programs: PStart or CodySafe
13:34:33 <sar3th> see http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
13:36:33 <tsilenzio> Ah okay just did that sucessfuly.
13:36:49 <tsilenzio> Is it possible to add these programs under directorys?
13:37:43 <tsilenzio> Such as: Development then have programs like DreamWeaver and Netbeans under that, and then Entertainment with programs under that as well
13:39:20 <tsilenzio> Thank you by the way.
13:39:50 <sar3th> tsilenzio: no, categories are not yet possible. it will be in one of the upcoming betas
13:40:32 <tsilenzio> Ah sweet okay Thank you so much! :)
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14:12:12 <sar3th> for the logs: i'm working on minecraft portable
14:13:02 <sar3th> oic, missed http://portableapps.com/node/25222
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14:44:19 <pa_2292> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me uninstall apps that come pre-installed. Do I just delete the apps from the Apps folder?
14:45:01 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_2292, it's that easy :)
14:45:21 <pa_2292> sweet, thanks
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16:30:07 <pa_2692> Howdy?
16:30:26 <ZachThibeau> howdy there
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16:58:51 <rcmaehl> JohnTHaller: Wb
16:59:14 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
16:59:21 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:06:16 <rcmaehl> JohnTHaller: KidSafe is now a single executable
17:06:49 <JohnTHaller> doesn't matter. it's still a nonstandard password protection thing, which I'd already said wouldn't be permitted.
17:07:22 <JohnTHaller> It's just a huge headache waiting to happen for system admins in computer labs and public areas which will result in portable software being banned from said locations if people use something like this.
17:08:38 <rcmaehl> Ah
17:08:52 <JohnTHaller> If it was what it said it was going to be... keep a PC safe from a kid messing with it temporarily... we'd have added it once it was stable (it's still not and causes Windows 7 to throw an error that the display drivers are running slowly and suggesting to switch to Windows Basic). But that's not what KidSafe is, despite the name
17:09:26 <rcmaehl> Kidsafe got recoded
17:09:33 <rcmaehl> to C++
17:09:44 <JohnTHaller> I know. I tried the latest release.
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17:10:02 <JohnTHaller> And that was the result. But, like I said, it doesn't matter anyway.
17:10:19 <rcmaehl> Which release?
17:10:23 <rcmaehl> AIE?
17:10:32 <JohnTHaller> yeah, whatever was just posted in the last couple days
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17:11:38 <rcmaehl> Never seen the Display Drivers issue before
17:13:08 <rcmaehl> JohnTHaller: how about this: I'll add in a feature that detects the number of user accounts on the PC, if there's over a certain number (let's say 5) Kidsafe will refuse to lock the computer
17:13:37 <JohnTHaller> That's useless. Public PCs often have only 1 or 2 accounts in them. They use an NT domain for logins.
17:14:30 <JohnTHaller> We won't support password lockers. They're abusive. If it's your own PC or your work PC, you're free to lock it the normal way. If it's not your PC and you're not provided a way to lock it down, you're not supposed to be locking it down.
17:14:54 <rcmaehl> ahh
17:15:47 <JohnTHaller> It's not a personal thing or anything against KidSafe, we don't permit abusive software in the portable apps directory. While KidSafe may have some legit applications in a very small subset of PCs, the majority of it is people doing something they aren't supposed to be. Which will get us on IT's bad side and get portable software banned.
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17:18:46 <rcmaehl> So the way to basically keep kidsafe on IT's good site would be to make it a program that simplely auto-locks the pc (by simulating the Win + L keypresses) after a configurable amount of time, that way it can't be abused because if you can't lock the pc then the simulated keypresses won't work, and if you can lock the pc but there's no autolock time set kidsafe would be the autolock. Right?
17:20:09 <ZachThibeau> I think what he's trying to get at is that kind of software will make things look like you are trying to hide something and that will make IT specialists suspicious
17:20:20 <JohnTHaller> First off, what's the point of the software? Honestly. If it's to lock a PC down and make it yours temporarily, that's perfectly fine. But the name should be changed to reflect it. And it can't be listed on PA.c. All Windows PCs have the ability to auto-lock after X minutes.
17:21:24 <JohnTHaller> If it is genuinely something to protect a PC from kids temporarily (as in little kids) it should be altered to reflect that. I've made this point dozens of times probably now in both IRC and in the forums.
17:24:35 <sar3th> <JohnTHaller>[...]All Windows PCs have the ability to auto-lock after X minutes.
17:24:46 <sar3th> but you may not always use that feature due to restrictions
17:24:51 <sar3th> let alone, configure it
17:24:54 <rcmaehl> Yep
17:24:57 <JohnTHaller> Right. WHich means you're probably not supposed to be locking it.
17:25:21 <sar3th> actually, that setting is in screensaver options if i recall correctlxy
17:27:10 <JohnTHaller> If it's your own PC, you can accomplish the same thing easily. If it's not your PC, you're doing something to someone else's PC that they've disallowed you to do (either purposefully or accidentally), which means that the app just starting out is on iffy grounds.
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17:28:01 <Drive-Dude> Hi
17:28:03 <JohnTHaller> If I were an IT admin and a few people used this to make PCs their own for long stretches while they left to eat, socialize, etc, I know I'd ban it.
17:28:07 <JohnTHaller> hi
17:28:18 <Drive-Dude> I need support
17:28:26 <JohnTHaller> what's your issue, Drive-Dude
17:28:50 <rcmaehl> Basically, I'm going to have to take out much of the UI and make kidsafe a small window (make 200x300), limit the amount of time the computer can be locked to something like 15 minutes, and make an autosave for program's documents and web browser's urls if they are closed to prevent the loss of work. To reduce the abusibility to almost nothingness.
17:29:15 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: no, JohnTHaller is saying it's disallowed. Period. There's no way around it.
17:29:27 <Gizmokid2005> if it still locks the computer at all, then no...disallowed.
17:30:07 <Drive-Dude> I wante to know will my themes work on beta 6 of PortableApps.com Platform? They are for 2.0 beta 5
17:30:36 <rcmaehl> Then I'll make it not lock
17:30:47 <Gizmokid2005> then what is the point rcmaehl?
17:30:51 <JohnTHaller> Drive-Dude: They may, it depends. The patheme format isn't finalized yet but should be in 2b6
17:31:20 <Drive-Dude> What is 2b6?
17:31:34 <rcmaehl> To prevent your work from being messed with by saving the original somewhere and restoring it when needed
17:31:36 <JohnTHaller> rcmaehl: If you want a password locking app, that's perfectly fine. And it can be in PAF. It just won't be listed on PA.c due to the abuse potential.
17:31:43 <JohnTHaller> 2.0 beta 6 = 2b6
17:32:48 <Drive-Dude> Any news you wanna share about 2b6? Any features / improvments?
17:33:13 <JohnTHaller> Nothing publicly atm. But it's being worked on quite a bit this week. Converted to Delphi XE.
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17:35:50 <Drive-Dude> Will it be a link on the website for themes for PortableApps.com Platform?
17:36:03 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Front page and every page like beta 5
17:36:22 <Drive-Dude> catogories?
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17:41:57 <Drive-Dude> Kingston makes fast drive. I could install Open Office in 3 to 4 minutes On my old drives it could take 20 minutes
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19:34:15 <jake__> good evening all
19:35:28 <jake__> anyone allive?
19:35:34 <rcmaehl> Yes
19:35:36 <rcmaehl> Hello
19:35:40 <jake__> hi
19:36:25 <jake__> i have a question about portableapps... is there a way to remove the top lines "your digital life anywhere"?
19:37:00 <jake__> i found the open source on sourceforge but i dont know how to make a working menu with it
19:37:05 <jake__> kinda noob with delphi
19:37:18 <rcmaehl> Not that I know of.
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19:37:33 <pa_8134> Hi
19:37:36 <rcmaehl> Hello
19:37:41 <jake__> maybe there is someone who has this?
19:37:51 <jake__> if so can you share your files?
19:37:55 <pa_8134> do you guys have any portable encrpted volume managers?
19:38:07 <rcmaehl> pa_8134: like truecrypt?
19:38:14 <pa_8134> have what jake__?
19:38:18 <cheasee> please join #truecrypt for truecrypt related questions :)
19:38:33 <jake__> pa_8134: a portableapps without those top lines
19:38:44 <jake__> trying to remove those lines and replace them with an image
19:38:44 <pa_8134> yes rcmaehl
19:38:56 <jake__> but they get overruled by the text
19:39:12 <jake__> dunno how to make an exe with the open source files
19:39:26 <jake__> know you need delphi for that
19:40:00 <rcmaehl> pa_8134: yes, but it's in development so I can't guarantee it'll work correctly
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19:40:56 <pa_8134> rcmaehl: where can I find dev build?
19:41:07 <jake__> So, there is noone with portableapps without the top lines?
19:41:21 <rcmaehl> http://portableapps.com/node/14374
19:41:41 <benedikt93> jake__, you might be able to overwrite that area with a theme, though I'm not sure
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19:42:32 <jake__> benedikt93: i already tried that but it seems that that line is burned into the exe file
19:43:26 <sar3th> jake__: if you have a few minutes, i can check it out for oyu
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19:43:51 <jake__> sar3th: sure, thnx
19:45:33 <sar3th> jake__: which version? 2 beta 5?
19:46:20 <jake__> i`m using 1.6.1.0
19:46:28 <sar3th> ok
19:46:30 <jake__> also tried version 2
19:46:38 <jake__> but couldnt remove that line either
19:46:43 <sar3th> which one do you want me to take a look at?
19:47:01 <jake__> 1.6.1.0 if possible
19:48:05 <jake__> tried to decompile the exe with delphi but failed.. but that might be my knowledge .. which is verry low with delphi
19:48:34 <sar3th> decompiling won't help, you need to download the source code and recompile it
19:49:19 <jake__> yep i downloaded them from sourceforge but don`t know how to compile it
19:49:25 <jake__> was looking on youtube... lol
19:49:42 <sar3th> well, you need to own a copy of delphi in order to do that
19:49:50 <jake__> i have that
19:49:52 <jake__> from school
19:50:05 <sar3th> which version do you have?
19:50:06 <jake__> student license
19:50:10 <jake__> 7
19:50:32 <sar3th> i don't know if that will work
19:50:42 <jake__> o
19:50:46 <jake__> which version do i need?
19:50:49 <jake__> or program
19:50:50 <sar3th> but standby, i have the appropriate version here, i'll take a look in 1-2 minutes
19:51:04 <jake__> ok
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19:56:42 <jake__> sar3th: may i ask which version and program youre using for this?
19:57:55 <sar3th> i'm using Delphi 2007 for this
19:58:14 <sar3th> as far as i know, john used delphi 2006 for the old 1.x branch
19:58:31 <jake__> professional?
19:58:40 <benedikt93> didn't John mention he uses 2010 for 2.0b5 and will use 2011 from now on?
19:58:48 <sar3th> benedikt93: yes
19:59:03 <sar3th> jake__: i got it through university
19:59:28 <jake__> guess i need to have a talk with my teacher then :)
19:59:45 <sar3th> well, you can try using D7 too
19:59:49 <sar3th> it might work
19:59:59 <sar3th> but i don't have it handy, so i can't tell you :<
20:00:15 <jake__> that`s ok, ill wait here for you
20:00:21 <jake__> meanwhile doing some research
20:06:02 <sar3th> ok done..had to finish an important call first
20:06:27 <sar3th> there are two possibilities, either it is "card-coded" into the program, or it is in the theme
20:07:08 <sar3th> the theming method is simpler, it does not involve recompiling or anything, just adding another theme without the lines
20:07:16 <sar3th> but i don
20:07:27 <sar3th> 't know whether it is possible, thus i'm taking a look now
20:07:41 <sar3th> i.e. as soon as the download from sourceforge is complete
20:08:19 <jake__> i tried editing the background.png
20:08:31 <jake__> but the text overrules the image
20:09:06 <jake__> sar3th: that`s ok we all have our own things to do.. don`t want to bother you
20:09:22 <jake__> already happy that you`re willing to take a look at it
20:13:02 <sar3th> can't see the image in the theme filee
20:13:03 <sar3th> *files
20:13:35 <jake__> checked the whole them every file .. even editing them didn`t worked haha
20:13:47 <jake__> theme*
20:14:06 <jake__> must be in the exe file
20:14:14 <sar3th> yeah
20:14:29 <sar3th> the self-compiled version does not have the picture
20:15:36 <jake__> think you can compile one for me, since you have the right version for it?
20:15:51 <sar3th> shouldn't be a problem
20:16:06 <jake__> don`t mind which version you choose
20:16:11 <jake__> leave that up for you
20:17:29 <sar3th> i will pm you the link in a second
20:17:50 <jake__> Ok, thnx
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20:46:35 <pa_0488> i got a question
20:48:46 <pa_0488> ok i download portable apps onto my thumbdrive right
20:49:28 <pa_0488> so to get it onto my computer do i reinstall it on my computer
20:51:35 <pa_0488> hello?
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21:17:56 <ZachThibeau> well JohnTHaller I've done it again, I'm taking on another fork but of coolplayer, the libs it uses etc are pretty outdated and has been probably for about 2 years now, (probably some issues with some security by now because of the outdated libraries and code)
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21:20:25 <pa_7183> help!
21:20:25 <GizmoBot> pa_7183: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:20:48 <pa_7183> how to rename a device that has portableapps platform installed?
21:21:23 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#renamedrive
21:21:30 <ZachThibeau> that should have the answer for you
21:21:33 <pa_7183> thanks :)
21:21:37 <ZachThibeau> np
21:21:47 <ZachThibeau> when in doubt read documentation ;)
21:21:58 <ZachThibeau> especially when one becomes bored :P
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21:34:18 <Simeon> hi all
21:35:39 <JohnTHaller> hola
21:35:47 <Simeon> hi John
21:36:00 <JohnTHaller> simeon are you packing the assaultcube update?
21:36:29 <Simeon> working on it. Did you follow the discussion about the windowed/fullscreen thing?
21:37:18 <JohnTHaller> yeah, let the game decide. there's no reason to have extra logic in the launcher
21:38:02 <JohnTHaller> just remove the code and ignore the setting in existing INI files for anyone who set it manually. remove it from the docs and mention that it was deprecated. we don't add logic for stuff like that unless there's no way for end users to change it on their own.
21:38:17 <Simeon> ok
21:38:32 <Simeon> that was my question as I were having trouble writing the installer code for the transition.
21:38:54 <JohnTHaller> no need. I doubt anybody really used it since there's a setting in-game anyway.
21:39:17 <Simeon> and I, the dev, didnt know about it till last week :)
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21:39:54 <JohnTHaller> no worries. we've been through it on a couple games before
21:40:48 <Simeon> I was going to package a prerelease because of the other bug mentioned here: http://portableapps.com/node/25055#comment-159098
21:41:17 <Simeon> but I couldnt duplicate it - it wasnt absorbed for me so maybe Ill just package it and send you the link.
21:41:34 <JohnTHaller> Ok. You have any idea how I messed up the last build that I did?
21:42:00 <Simeon> Im not even shure you were the one who messed it up - maybe it was me.
21:42:39 <JohnTHaller> I built it not you :P so it was def me
21:43:06 <Simeon> problem is that normal assaultcube uses a bat file to start and I modify it to add a --home=%PALDATA% switch. The messed up release was missing that home switch and thus it was saving the user data in %APPDATA%
21:43:23 <JohnTHaller> Ah yes. I didn't know about that bit when I built it.
21:43:48 <Simeon> I have a todo list for these things :)
21:44:08 <JohnTHaller> could you shoot me that for assaultcube so I can file it with all of the others, please?
21:45:19 <Simeon> ok:
21:45:20 <Simeon> Copy files over
21:45:20 <Simeon> modify assaultcube.bat
21:45:21 <Simeon> copy openal32.dll and wrap_oal.dll to bin_win32
21:45:21 <Simeon> no compression as it only saves 3 mb
21:45:29 <Simeon> thats it
21:46:27 <JohnTHaller> sounds like warzone
21:46:30 <Simeon> I usually just copy the files from the install as I havent found a way to extract them from the installer
21:46:57 <Simeon> how long are you on? I could built the release now and send you the link. I'd have to reboot into windows though.
21:47:21 <JohnTHaller> I'm on for a few hours but will be offline occasionally to lie down. still sick
21:47:39 <Simeon> oh - I was hoping you'd be better by now
21:48:28 <Simeon> if youre on I can just post the link and you'll see it
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21:50:14 <JohnTHaller> PM it to me when you have it.
21:50:21 <Simeon> ok
21:50:23 <JohnTHaller> yeah, i know. sick 2 weeks now.
21:50:48 <Simeon> I hope you get better soon! or as we say here:"Gute Besserung!"
21:51:03 <sar3th> indeed :)
21:51:19 <JohnTHaller> thanks man
21:51:35 <Simeon> looks like Oracle wants to keep going with OpenOffice:http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Oracle-steht-zu-OpenOffice-1107721.html
21:51:38 <JohnTHaller> i'm taking it easy. fluids. etc. still. but i still occasionally stay up til all hours working... which isn't helping
21:52:50 <Simeon> just dont over-do it and drag the flu into the colder half of the year! I know a community who (which?) would be sad about that! :)
21:53:32 <sar3th> "which" i think
21:53:37 <Simeon> Ill be gone for a while building the new package - brb
21:53:40 <JohnTHaller> heh, yeah I know. especially with all the cool stuff about to drop. i really want to get the app directory up sooner than later
21:53:45 <JohnTHaller> so we can start translating
21:53:52 <Simeon> sar3th: thats what I thought
21:54:04 <JohnTHaller> we may have to do de.pa.com instead of pa.com/de though. some issues with syncing the url paths
21:55:18 <Simeon> one thing John: Should I rebuild the other official apps of mine (pdftkbuilder and lbreakout) with the new installer&Launcher?
21:56:25 <sar3th> de.pa.com sounds better to me
21:56:31 <JohnTHaller> It's up to you. We're gonna need to re-release both of them shortly so they install fully silently from the updater. So if you were gonna, it would make sense now.
21:56:52 <JohnTHaller> I'm trying to work out which de. or /de will have more issues with someone like google penalizing us for duplicate content
21:57:08 <Simeon> ok
21:57:30 <JohnTHaller> I was gonna go through all the apps over about a 5 day period from when I get better
21:57:31 <Simeon> I dont know about google. What are other multilang pages doing?
21:57:59 <JohnTHaller> I don't know of any big ones. A lot of projects have separate domains (mozilla for example)
21:58:04 <Simeon> then I am more than happy to get my 4 apps off your sholders, ok?!
21:58:04 <sar3th> de.wikipedia.org
21:58:10 <sar3th> *.wikipedia.org
21:58:58 <JohnTHaller> Sure, Simeon, that'd be great :) Just email me the links when they are ready. And feel free to use the old splashes for now. I'll swap in a new one for any that need it when I sign and repack the releases.
21:59:29 <Simeon> ok.I think i already did the PAL transition for most of them :)
21:59:54 <Simeon> bye then - till later maybe
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22:00:02 <JohnTHaller> later simeon :)
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22:29:56 <Simeon> hi
22:30:31 <sar3th> welcome back Simeon
22:30:41 <Simeon> you still here? ;)
22:30:56 <sar3th> ofc :)
22:31:18 <Simeon> ofc?
22:31:43 <JohnTHaller> i'm here
22:32:04 <sar3th> Simeon: means "of course"
22:33:23 <Simeon> PDFTKBuilders version is still 3.6. Should I have renamed it to rev 2? package version is 3.6.0.2 though
22:34:00 <Simeon> sar3th: I see.
22:34:13 <JohnTHaller> did you change the launcher from custom to PAL?
22:34:21 <Simeon> yes
22:37:43 <JohnTHaller> then it's a rev 2
22:38:43 <Simeon> even in the display version?
22:39:02 <JohnTHaller> yeah
22:39:20 <JohnTHaller> if we just repack it, it's the same version. but if we make internal changes, then it's a rev.
22:39:29 <Simeon> ok
22:43:58 <Simeon> What happend to portableapps.com that warrants this increased spamming problem we all observed in the last 2-4 weeks?
22:44:31 <Simeon> such an increase
22:46:08 <JohnTHaller> No idea honestly.
22:46:46 <Simeon> I found it remarcable - is there a possibility of having a report button or does it not yet warrant the extra programming effort?
22:47:00 <JohnTHaller> All of the spam plugins work badly
22:47:08 <Simeon> too bad
22:48:07 <Simeon> what was this new thing I saw at the bottom of the forum pages that seems to have disappeared now?
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22:48:40 <JohnTHaller> what new thing?
22:49:14 <Simeon> cant remember exactly - linked to a thread - something like "most read" or so
22:50:04 <JohnTHaller> ah. thats on every page but hidden. part of the stats system now that the whole site is cached static html for guests
22:50:24 <Simeon> ok
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23:23:22 <Simeon> hi ChrisMorgan
23:23:37 <ChrisMorgan> Hey SImeon
23:23:54 <Simeon> long time no see :)
23:24:01 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
23:24:09 <ChrisMorgan> Need any help with anything or just saying hi?
23:24:27 <Simeon> just saying hi
23:24:32 <ChrisMorgan> OK
23:24:49 <Simeon> had a nice chat with John and am just hanging out here now
23:32:31 <Simeon> gotty go - gnight all
23:34:51 <sar3th> then good night and sleep well!
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23:46:17 <Spaceghost> hello
23:46:36 <Spaceghost> can I use the game "Same" of Gnome for Windows?
23:46:48 <Spaceghost> I need a game for windows with the same rules of it
23:49:08 <ChrisMorgan> Try searching for "same game windows"
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