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00:01:07 <ZachThibeau> howdy Chris and everyone else
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00:23:30 <Spaceghost> I did it
00:23:51 <Bensawsome> you have achieved world domination?
00:23:52 <Bensawsome> lol
00:52:27 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller, almost got CoolPlayer recompiled with updated ogg, vorbis and zlib, files 1 last error to fix and I think I can start working on more improvements, going to see if I can get the PortableApps.com style can be imported directly as default style etc
01:30:18 <JohnTHaller> Cool.
01:30:51 <JohnTHaller> I think there is a security issue in the normal CoolPlayer theme style import if I recall correctly. So I reghacked the ability out in CoolPlayer+
01:34:47 <ZachThibeau> I'll see about fixing it then
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04:31:02 <JohnTHaller> hi all
04:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JohnTHaller
04:33:44 <JohnTHaller> anything exciting going on?
04:33:56 <ChrisMorgan> Eating lunch :D
04:50:18 <JohnTHaller> woohoo
04:51:21 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: I've been rethinking whether to have "PA.c Launcher" as the file description on compiled launchers. That way people with non-standard setups using some 3rd party menus aren't left annoyed.
04:51:45 <ChrisMorgan> Compared to what?
04:52:02 <JohnTHaller> Having it be the actual app name. example: Audacity Portable
04:52:12 <JohnTHaller> Or maybe Audacity Portable (PortableApps.com)
04:52:21 <JohnTHaller> or (PA.c Launcher) maybe
04:52:39 <JohnTHaller> or (PortableApps.com Launcher)
04:53:56 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah... I was going to do that for 2.1 because apparently Windows uses the FileDescription for the Open with... window.
04:54:04 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, that, too.
04:54:24 <JohnTHaller> I can throw a temp patch on the current 2.0 and that way it'll be proper for all current releases.
04:54:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not aware of any portable menu which uses the Description.
04:54:54 <ChrisMorgan> Currently it's "PortableApps.com Launcher". What do you think it should be? "AppName Portable (PortableApps.com Launcher)" sounds good to me.
04:54:54 <JohnTHaller> I think ASuite does. The old PA.c Menu does, so PA.c Mod and Geek.menu do.
04:55:12 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I think that makes the most sense
04:55:22 <ChrisMorgan> That has me perplexed. Why wouldn't all these have used ProductName?
04:55:32 <ChrisMorgan> I thought that's what it was for...
04:56:53 <JohnTHaller> Actually, I used ProductName and then fell back to FileDescription if it was blank. So the others should too
04:57:03 <ChrisMorgan> Committed.
04:57:08 <JohnTHaller> ProductName is "AppName Portable" right?
04:57:20 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
04:57:46 <ChrisMorgan> ProductName is "${Name}" which is appinfo.ini:[Details]:Name
04:57:50 <JohnTHaller> What else is going in 2.1 at this point now?
04:58:24 <ChrisMorgan> Documentation of wildcards and I think that's about it. Or do you mean everything in 2.1?
04:58:52 <JohnTHaller> Just the highlights
04:59:05 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/launcher/manual/releases/2.1/
04:59:35 <ChrisMorgan> But it looks like DLL server registration will be being disabled for 2.1.
05:00:19 <JohnTHaller> Still issues?
05:01:21 <JohnTHaller> BTW - would it be helpful if I set a DNS of something like PALDOCS,pa.com to pa.cm.info so we can just link to the docs on there rather than copying them over for each release?
05:01:55 <ChrisMorgan> Gringoloco hasn't finished his research into and code for dealing with TypeLibs and DLL servers. So what's in there currently doesn't reregister a local thing.
05:02:02 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good.
05:02:03 <JohnTHaller> Actually, it's not a big deal IIRC, since we don't do makr updates between releases to the docs do we?
05:02:23 <JohnTHaller> How are you generating the docs again?
05:02:27 <ChrisMorgan> "makr" - do you mean "major"?
05:02:34 <JohnTHaller> yes major. sorry tired
05:03:23 <ChrisMorgan> I make no guarantees about paths or content staying the same. There's still a lot of improvement to be done.
05:03:42 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I hear ya.
05:04:11 <JohnTHaller> Well, we could just copy it. I could do the DNS alias and we link to it. Or I can give you direct FTP access to a directory on PA.c to have it sync over.
05:04:22 <ChrisMorgan> At the moment I've put in a changegroup hook on the server to run a script on my server which pulls and updates the docs. I should also put in a stable version so paldocs.portableapps.com could refer to the latest stable docs.
05:05:38 <ChrisMorgan> It'll be easier just having one source of it, then I can do it all with nice automated scripts. And I intend to keep chrismorgan.info running as far into the future as I can currently see.
05:06:10 <JohnTHaller> How about syncing it over via ftp?
05:06:16 <JohnTHaller> sftp actually
05:06:40 <ChrisMorgan> If you want it to be on the main server then I can do that.
05:06:59 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I don't like tea.
05:07:19 <JohnTHaller> Heh. How did the page look?
05:07:22 <ChrisMorgan> I like the picture though :-)
05:07:45 <JohnTHaller> I modded the oxygen kteatrimer icon to look more like tea, remove the clock and add the pa.c icon :)
05:07:53 <JohnTHaller> Was the pic centered for you?
05:08:04 <ChrisMorgan> No, it sat on the left.
05:08:16 <JohnTHaller> Let's go with using the main server. Let me know what you need from me in terms of access and i'll set it up.
05:08:22 <JohnTHaller> Darn. I'll have to double check that.
05:08:56 <JohnTHaller> We lose the server for about 5 minutes at 1am EDT each day, so I figured a less scary message would be better. Kinda like the twitter fail whale
05:08:58 <ChrisMorgan> Let me see... I don't have Firebug enabled due to issues with it in Firefox 4, so I have no decent way of checking it out. View Source hardly counts :-(
05:09:08 <ChrisMorgan> Never seen the twitter fail whale.
05:09:38 <JohnTHaller> http://dangreenblatt.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/twitter-fail-whale.png
05:09:50 <ChrisMorgan> You meant "margin: auto", not "margins: auto"
05:10:09 <JohnTHaller> heh, html editting on too lil sleep
05:11:48 <ChrisMorgan> What access I need? SFTP and that's it. Do you do it with ssh keys or username/password?
05:13:09 <JohnTHaller> name/pwd
05:13:38 <ChrisMorgan> K.
05:13:44 <JohnTHaller> I'll set it up for you tomorrow. Just added it to my task list
05:14:01 <ChrisMorgan> I've grown very familiar with ssh, sftp, scp, etc. in the past months. Linux is great.
05:33:41 <JohnTHaller> alirght, bed. gnight all
05:36:53 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight
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16:44:40 <AGGELOS_> hi im loking for CamStudio portable where can ifinf it?
16:46:17 <KookyMan> did you try google?
16:46:55 <sar3th> AGGELOS_: http://portableapps.com/node/3572
16:47:16 <AGGELOS_> do you know any site for it?
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18:21:14 <Brandon___> evening
18:22:30 <Brandon___> does anyone know know an application for portableapps that ask for a password when you plugin your usb?
18:22:34 <Brandon___> like usbcrypt
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21:18:41 <pa_2427> hi
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23:13:31 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller, just a question about the security issue you mentioned for coolplayer, where did you say it was again?
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23:43:17 <pa_0452> hi anyone with cygwin experience, can you install portable version and a copy on your c:\drive simultaneous?
23:55:03 <pa_0452> help!
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23:55:43 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: In theming I think. Check with Google
23:55:58 <ZachThibeau> sure
23:56:00 <JohnTHaller> pa_0452: Sorry, I don't use cygwin. I'm unsure if it hooks deeply into Windows or not