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01:55:57 <pa_0063> Is is possible to download an older version of Skype Portable (4.x)?
01:56:54 <JacobMastel> Yes it is. Let me find you a link...
01:57:08 <pa_0063> Thank you :)
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01:59:27 <JohnTHaller> We don't still have it on our download servers. Someone else might, though.
01:59:44 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you're on any moment are you not?
02:00:06 <JacobMastel> the older versions should be held on sourceforge.net. Unfortunately their severs seem to be having issues.
02:00:14 <JacobMastel> It should be located http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/
02:00:16 <JohnTHaller> Skype is not hosted on SF
02:00:26 <pa_0063> Anyone here have a copy? I need it for VodBurner compatibility.
02:00:33 <JacobMastel> Oh sorry John.
02:00:51 <JohnTHaller> One of the 3rd party hosting sites may have it somewhere
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02:01:28 <pa_9518> Me again llooking for Skype 4.x
02:01:54 <JohnTHaller> PortableApps.com will be on Computer America in 5 minutes. Listen streaming live here: http://computeramerica.com/listen.htm
02:02:28 <JohnTHaller> must run. will be back online after the radio show.
02:02:38 <OliverK> good luck
02:02:42 <ZachThibeau> awesome and looking forward to listening
02:02:47 <JohnTHaller> thanks
02:02:49 <Gizmokid2005> I'm listening JohnTHaller :) Have fun
02:03:01 <JohnTHaller> I'll be in their chat room, too. Enter it from their homepage
02:04:40 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I'm picking up Spicebird again
02:04:46 <sar3th> even i stayed awake to listen to it :)
02:04:55 <Gizmokid2005> .8 was out in June and it's much more stable. Cleaning up the launcher and will post it soon
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02:06:11 <JohnTHaller> Go here http://computeramerica.com/ , scroll down a little and enter a username in the chat with us box (no pwd needed). As long as you have Java installed, you can chat with us in the radio show.
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02:35:24 <JohnTHaller> Ok, so that's done :)
02:35:29 <sar3th> who are these 4 people are working on the platform? :)
02:36:02 <JohnTHaller> Ack. I was reading from my old notes. 4 have signed the joint copyright agreement to dec it.
02:36:13 <JohnTHaller> and a few more with other SVN/Hg access
02:36:33 <sar3th> there is repo access to the plattform? :O
02:37:04 <JohnTHaller> There will be shortly alongside installer, launcher, etc
02:37:14 <sar3th> nice
02:38:03 <ZachThibeau> John speaking of which you could probably remove toucan from svn since Steve is now using mercurial (hg) instead
02:38:18 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: going to update Spicebird tomorrow JohnTHaller :)
02:38:35 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: I gotta ensure he moved all the old code versions over.
02:39:00 <ZachThibeau> speaking of Steve, haven't really head much from him lately
02:39:04 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: Cool. Be nice to see that solidifty into a 1.0
02:39:09 <JohnTHaller> He's been busy with school
02:39:25 <ZachThibeau> last I heard beside the forum was is participation in gsoc with the wxwidgets team
02:39:26 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: It'll be a while I can tell you that, but they updated to TB 3.0 core and fixed up a LOT of crashes.
02:39:39 <JohnTHaller> good
02:40:10 <Gizmokid2005> the only thing I'm not sure about JohnTHaller, and I think we've discussed something like this before, is this random file is created...how on earth do I handle it? "C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Mozilla\Extensions\{ee53ece0-255c-4cc6-8a7e-81a8b6e5ba2c}"
02:40:10 <JohnTHaller> You think it's stable enough for a general release at a 0.8? Oliver's kinda convinced me we need to reconsider pre-1.0 more often.
02:40:30 <JohnTHaller> Is it empty?
02:40:53 <Gizmokid2005> I can't just backup that folder because of other apps that may use it, that would blow away those changes...
02:40:57 <Gizmokid2005> lemme check again, I think so.
02:41:10 <ZachThibeau> anyways PChat 2.0 is coming along nice, can connect to servers, joining channels is a whole other ball of wax, currently it's crashing, but it's finally coming along
02:41:13 <Gizmokid2005> but I doubt the extension GUID stays the same
02:41:27 <JohnTHaller> If it is empty. Check for existence on launch. If it exists, do nothing. If it doesn't, you can remove directories from there on back without the switch to remove if not empty.
02:41:57 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm...I might do a test with a few people then to see if the GUID is always the same, if it is that's fine...if not, something else?
02:42:31 <JohnTHaller> Generally yes. The GUID is per extension and should not change. It would seem that Spicebird is using some of that.
02:43:28 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: we should, but on case by case
02:43:43 <OliverK> I'm wary of spicebird personally, no updates for 2 years
02:43:51 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: this is an update
02:43:54 <Gizmokid2005> as of June of this year
02:43:55 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I agree... it'll definitely be case by case.
02:44:06 <Gizmokid2005> and the blog for it has a lot to say
02:44:07 <OliverK> lots of security issues that could have gotten in, incompatibility with win 7 could have happened
02:44:27 <OliverK> linkage? I'll read it tomorrow night, I have alot on my plate tonight
02:44:30 <JohnTHaller> Are the spicebird guys gonna update more often?
02:44:37 <OliverK> ^
02:44:39 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: that's the plan, 6 months tops
02:44:40 <Gizmokid2005> lemme get you a link
02:44:57 <Gizmokid2005> You know Spicebird is actually owned more in the way that Songbird is right?
02:45:05 <JohnTHaller> owned?
02:45:08 <OliverK> it might be worth it then, if we can get some dedicated testers on it
02:45:12 <Gizmokid2005> Spicebird is pretty much the OSS offshoot of this company's Collab software
02:45:37 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah. I was confusing it with InstantBird for a minute. Too many *Birds :P
02:45:50 <Gizmokid2005> hahah I hear ya
02:46:11 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: JohnTHaller: the main blog that's used: http://prasad.medhas.org/
02:46:21 <Gizmokid2005> I'm going to comment on a few of them, just haven't done it tonight, probably tomorrow
02:46:37 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.synovel.com/ <-- that's the company that "owns" Spicebird
02:46:43 <Gizmokid2005> bottom middle of the page
02:47:10 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah. I think they gave us permission to repackage once they hit 1.0 or something similar. I can't recall offhand.
02:47:28 <Gizmokid2005> I'll check with them again just to be safe and make sure all is wellf
02:47:30 <Gizmokid2005> *well
02:47:38 <Gizmokid2005> it's something I'm kinda set on now, since I used it for a bit today
02:47:46 <Gizmokid2005> trying to find a replacement for Tbird for my work email I'm using via IMAP
02:48:04 <Gizmokid2005> and Spicebird handles collab a bit better, it's got better cross-integration support between calendar/email, etc
02:48:09 <OliverK> *shudder*
02:48:23 <Gizmokid2005> I've got 4GB of IMAP mail to manage, so it has to do it well
02:48:41 <OliverK> does it? I've always found my connection to be way to slow
02:49:04 <JohnTHaller> I'm at 3GB on TB. But I archive locally not on server
02:49:30 <Gizmokid2005> we're moving from exchange to google hosted
02:49:50 <Gizmokid2005> and I can imap at work and home so it's easier for me. I want a way to keep it "separate" instead of running 2 TBird instances.
02:50:21 <JohnTHaller> Nothing wrong with two TB instances. Specially with 2nd profile :)
02:50:30 <Gizmokid2005> haha, I"m just running two installs
02:50:35 <Gizmokid2005> actually, I wanted to talk to you about that too JohnTHaller
02:51:02 <JohnTHaller> Sure, whatcha wanna know?
02:51:12 <Gizmokid2005> is there any way to make the updater not care so much about the folder names and actually look for/update multiple instances of an app, like thunderbird?
02:52:14 <JohnTHaller> It'll be messy. We'll do it eventually, but it's lower on the list as there's not much need to do it (and you can't unless you manuyally install)
02:52:35 <JohnTHaller> For now, I highly recommend the 2nd profile bits. Those will be auto-updated going forward.
02:52:49 <Gizmokid2005> just a thought, I mean, it's probably a rare occurance, but a thought
02:52:53 <Gizmokid2005> but will they run simultaneously?
02:53:21 <JohnTHaller> Nope
02:53:35 <Gizmokid2005> that's the problem, I need that.
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03:11:10 <JohnTHaller> [HOST_Craig_Crossman] Zach Thibeau Hope to see you here
03:11:22 <ZachThibeau> anways later guys got to sleep and tell him sure thing
03:11:29 <JohnTHaller> Gnight man
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04:08:08 * JohnTHaller is glad he added aeroprogress to appcompactor, etc
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04:32:43 <ChrisMorgan> Pity I had to miss the show. I was giving my FIT1016 final presentation at the time.
04:33:02 <JohnTHaller> No worries. It'll be on the archive as an MP3 tomorrow. How'd the presentation go?
04:37:17 <ChrisMorgan> Fine. http://beadsjs.chrismorgan.info/dev/slides/slides.html (requires Firefox 4 for the fun audio) :-)
04:37:30 <JohnTHaller> 4 oh 4
04:37:42 <ChrisMorgan> * http://beadsjs.chrismorgan.info/dev/slides/slides.htm
04:37:44 <ChrisMorgan> No l
04:38:49 <ChrisMorgan> The last two slides are the best.
04:42:45 <auscompgeek> Hm? Fx4 features? :D
04:43:58 <JohnTHaller> Ok, Pidgin is up. I can switch to ff4 and test the fun
04:44:26 <ChrisMorgan> auscompgeek: naturally - uses the shiny new Audio Data API in FF4
04:46:49 <JohnTHaller> kewl
04:51:05 <JohnTHaller> Ok, SeaMonkey builder is running. I'm gonna head to bed. Gnight all.
04:54:02 <ChrisMorgan> G'nite
04:54:15 <ChrisMorgan> Any particular apps in mind for next which you'd like me to toest?
04:58:42 <JohnTHaller> And posted the link to the interview online now: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-10-21_-_portableapps.com_on_computer_america_radio_show
04:59:04 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Use your discretion from the test apps list. Pick some that you think would be most valuable to get out there.
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04:59:18 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear; choices, choices :P
05:20:26 <auscompgeek> lol
05:20:41 <auscompgeek> heh, I heard about the new APIs in Fx4
05:21:02 <auscompgeek> btw ChrisMorgan, the official abbreviation is Fx, not FF, FF is Final Fantasy.
05:24:34 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... so I see. That's illogical.
05:25:18 <auscompgeek> No it isn't, you see, it's like Dr. Also, if it was FF, the name would have to be FireFox.
05:30:52 <ChrisMorgan> But fire-fox is the natural segmentation of the name; doctor is one word with no meaningful segmentation.
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08:04:23 <pa_2930> hello. I have been going through the firefoxportable.ini file and found setings like AllowMultipleInstances=false, DisableIntelligentStart=false RunLocally=false and SkipCompregFix=false. Can I wirte these for opera portable also or are they there already?
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08:08:56 <pa_2930> anyone?
08:09:00 <MichKat> hello
08:09:06 <pa_2930> hello
08:09:41 <MichKat> I never actually came to think that anyone would ever talk in this room
08:09:49 <MichKat> its normally very empty when i walk in
08:10:10 <pa_2930> this is the frist time I have found it empty
08:10:45 <pa_2930> everyone seems to be off doing something else
08:11:34 <MichKat> idling otherwise :P
08:11:50 <pa_2930> :)
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08:15:19 <auscompgeek> pa_2930: look in Other/Source/readme.txt
08:15:28 <auscompgeek> tells you everything ;)
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09:10:42 <TerryDan> Could you please tell me if there is a way to change the default Document Folder?
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09:21:14 <dboki89> TerryDan: Hi. If you're asking for a way to change the Documents button on the right side of the PA Menu (aka Platform), I'm afraid it's not possible at the moment | Disclaimer: I'm not a PA developer, just a user like yourself
09:22:05 <TerryDan> Coool... I hadn't found a way & was looking for confirmation.
09:22:07 <TerryDan> Thanks
09:22:41 <dboki89> you're welcome
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09:37:18 <dboki89> .tell JacobMastel - You're quite right. The spelling of Jacob in Chech/Slovakia region is "Jakub". It's almost never spelled Jacob, only if someone moves from the US. Alternativelly, it might be spelled "Jakuv", "Jakov", "Jakob" and similar, but those imply he comes from another Slav nation... Just a FYI :)
09:37:19 <GizmoBot> dboki89: I'll pass that on when JacobMastel is around.
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10:30:22 <pa_7449> hi, is there a way to include a directory structure into the portableappsinstaller?
10:40:03 <pa_7449> hmm, hard to explain, here http://www.image-hoster.de/files/10b0a1fa961948dcf930c7b5c.jpg is a screenshot. i need to include the dll files into the portable installation.
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11:47:53 <rcmaehl_school> Hear that PA.c was on the radio
11:48:04 <rcmaehl_school> heard*
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12:11:06 <pa_8025> hails
12:11:52 <rcmaehl> Hi
12:12:04 <pa_8025> just noticed that cant make portable app's installers from functionaling programs if there is multiple exe in same folder
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12:13:24 <pa_8025> would be great if that installer program would have option to set main exe manually and ignore others
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14:16:50 <ChrisMorgan> dbdii407, Guest76583: would you mind if we removed your .defs? They've gone out of fashion and I think you're about the only two left that use them... and they make more noise when you're joining. (That's a personal request, not an official request)
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17:01:11 <GrimReaperVI> good evening
17:01:19 <GrimReaperVI> i need help with audacity portable
17:01:36 <GrimReaperVI> how do i change the startup language?
17:03:13 <GrimReaperVI> ah ok, i did it^^
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17:22:24 <GrimReaperVI> is flash already installed in firefox portable?
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19:11:22 <pa_2231> ok i need help now
19:11:34 <pa_2231> please
19:11:38 <pa_2231> hello
19:11:45 <pa_2231> any one here
19:12:10 <pa_2231> need help
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21:16:17 <pa_6678> hey there, somebody knows something about issues with win7 x64?
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21:43:31 <laserdude11> Hello
21:43:46 <laserdude11> Anyone use Vim portable?
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