IRC Log from 2010-10-28
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00:52:38 <ZachThibeau> howdy Scriptdaemon
00:52:55 <Scriptdaemon> Hello, ZachThibeau.
00:53:33 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: PChat 2.0 is nearing 70% functionality :D
00:55:09 <Scriptdaemon> I should probably pick up the pace on what I'm supposed to finish then. >.>
00:55:27 <Scriptdaemon> I should have time this weekend. I hope.
00:55:33 <ZachThibeau> well this is for the first release of the tech preview
00:55:56 <ZachThibeau> I think people can wait for the tray feature for now :P
00:56:49 <Scriptdaemon> =P
00:59:08 <ZachThibeau> already past the 100 commit milestone :P
00:59:34 <ZachThibeau> sitting at 116 svn commits at this time :)
01:09:48 <Scriptdaemon> Nice.
01:11:13 <ZachThibeau> here is a screenshot of how it currently sits atm
01:11:14 <ZachThibeau> http://i55.tinypic.com/2vmes5u.jpg
01:11:33 <ZachThibeau> thinking of implimenting in the future support for adium themes :P
01:18:38 <Scriptdaemon> Needs a little work, but nice.
01:18:58 <Scriptdaemon> I'm looking at the code now, and I have a few questions as to why you chose certain methods over others,
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01:34:46 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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04:39:08 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: Fyre Portable is good to go
04:39:17 <JohnTHaller> what's a fyre portable
04:39:48 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/23416
04:40:02 <ChrisMorgan> And the logo can be got from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Applications-fyre.svg/2000px-Applications-fyre.svg.png
04:40:43 <JohnTHaller> Isn't that a long-dead app? Are there many users?
04:41:07 <JohnTHaller> Or is it stable? I'm unfamiliar with it.
04:41:22 <ChrisMorgan> It is dead, but stable, and produces very nice pictures. Good fun.
04:41:49 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon it's worth while releasing in spite of it not being developed any more.
04:42:26 <JohnTHaller> Ah, I see. Yeah, it does look pretty cool.
04:42:35 <JohnTHaller> Stick it on the confirmed read list on the outdated apps page.
04:43:40 <ChrisMorgan> It's the only piece of software of its type; Electric Sheep is similar in some of the things it does, but more flexible, and achieving a somewhat different end. It'd be worth while doing as well, though.
04:44:32 <ChrisMorgan> The name Electric Sheep always reminds me of the defunct company Electric Sheep which made the text adventure "The Multi-Dimensional Thief" - the best text adventure I've ever played. Pity it died :-(
04:45:03 <OliverK|Irssi> isn't electric sheep a screensaver?
04:45:14 <JohnTHaller> I'm just happy I caught up on updates. The multiple mozilla security releases was unplanned
04:46:20 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK|Irssi: can be but I believe it can be run as a normal app too. Even as a screensaver, it's still getting full keyboard/mouse interaction, so it's not a normal-type screensaver but rather an app that can be triggered as a screensaver.
04:47:28 <OliverK|Irssi> hmm, I wanted to play with it when I got the internet, but was concerned about how well my computer would do rendering it, as well as the possible security issues
04:48:03 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: fixing the & in the Installer will involve making two copies of the string, one with & turned into &&; the big problem with it is I believe it would require overriding some NSIS strings which use $(^Name) and generally fiddling with things. If it's possible at all without taking /all/ of the language strings.
04:50:11 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: I just dropped a note to Enrico CCing you. I'm going to post Geany tomorrow. I got stuck doing the Mozilla updates tonight in addition to the other 4 app updates tonight.
04:50:25 <OliverK|Irssi> JohnTHaller: no prob
04:52:05 <OliverK|Irssi> one more thing, I'm going to hopefully send you an email with the Geany Portable RSS. Right now, I'm going to manually do it I think, seeing as I'm not sure how I'm going to get pmwiki to do the RSS for me. It will require more time I think to configure PMWiki then to just manually do it for now
04:52:31 <OliverK|Irssi> that should be let out of the bag tomorrow. I keep telling myself, I will be productive
04:53:06 <JohnTHaller> You could just do it on Twitter manually and then have people watch the twitter RSS and/or feed
04:53:18 <JohnTHaller> Bit more automated that way
04:54:03 <OliverK|Irssi> yeah, that's another method. It would also save bandwidth. I think I'll pursue that option as well
04:54:17 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: You confirmed Skype Portable leaves nothing behind even if you tell it to save your password under XP correct?
04:54:53 <OliverK|Irssi> i need to find a cross platform twitter client that isn't reliant on adobe air. I'm becoming a huge fan of linux now that I have my netbook
04:55:11 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't tell it to save my password, but it did anyway. Nothing was left behind. The original reporter indicated he thought it was a 4-5 upgrade issue in his next comment.
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04:56:38 <JohnTHaller> Odd. Did he let Skype upgrade itself
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04:56:45 <ChrisMorgan> No idea, he didn't say that.
04:56:51 <pa_5707> hello
04:56:59 <pa_5707> ?
04:57:01 <ChrisMorgan> I think we can let the matter drop unless anything else comes up
04:57:37 <JohnTHaller> hi pa_5707 how can we help you
05:01:08 <OliverK|Irssi> that's dumb, my new geany portable account has two spam followers already :(
05:02:11 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK|Irssi: fortunately that tends to be all you get
05:03:39 <OliverK|Irssi> lol, yeah. Reported for spam :)
05:04:26 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: good, the "site offline" message is all correct now :-)
05:04:57 <OliverK|Irssi> nice!
05:05:00 <ChrisMorgan> Provided you ignore the mention of tea.
05:05:17 <OliverK|Irssi> bah, I like tea!
05:05:55 <OliverK|Irssi> although, it takes my about 15 minutes to get tea, because I let it steep that long. I drink mine black
05:07:10 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I saw it the other night. I have a habit of typo-ing in HTML, so it was annoying not to be able to preview it except between 1am and 1:05am
05:14:37 <OliverK|Irssi> okay, geany portable rss via twitter is setup and inside the html for the site. Its time I get to bed, or I'll be in trouble. Good night all
05:15:08 <ChrisMorgan> G'nite OliverK|Irssi
05:15:16 <JohnTHaller> NIce. Gnight oliver
05:15:21 <OliverK|Irssi> night
05:15:25 <JohnTHaller> btw, in case anyone wanted to see it and missed it: http://portableapps.com/temp/offline.png
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05:48:16 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
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07:06:23 <auscompgeek> hm? geany portable?
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09:28:46 <Koo> :o
09:29:47 <auscompgeek> :p
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11:48:12 <pa_7363> I stupidly allowed Firefox to update on it's own and it put some data on my C: under Application Data. If I install the update portable Firefox over it can I delete what's on the C:?
11:53:42 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7363: no.
11:54:51 <pa_7363> bummer, what's the best way to undo my mistake?
11:55:08 <Gizmokid2005> you'll have to delete the files themselves, but post a report in the forums with what version you upgraded from and to, and your steps, because that type of upgrade should work just fine.
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12:01:11 <pa_7363> I'm worried that deleting then will lose data. I'll back everything up first. Thanks.
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14:42:29 <k4r4mb4> hi , where can I get older versions of portable pidgin?
14:43:56 <benedikt93> k4r4mb4, here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Pidgin%20Portable/
14:44:14 <JohnTHaller> Highly unrecommended, though. All older versions have significant security issues.
14:45:14 <k4r4mb4> 10x benedikt93
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14:54:29 <k4r4mb4> benedikt93 could you please give me a link to older version of firefox portable as well?
14:55:08 <k4r4mb4> I tried to change it to http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Firefox%20Portable/ but it does not work
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15:04:20 <benedikt93> sourceforge is extremely sluggish for me right now, so I can't give you the exact link, but it must be here AFAIK http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/
15:05:31 <benedikt93> but really consider JohnTHaller's comment, especially for such apps establishing an internet connection this is really a reason to stay up to date
15:06:05 <benedikt93> eg, todays(yesterdays?) firefox update fixed a zero-day exploit
15:06:06 <JohnTHaller> And the fact that 3.6.12 is the only supported version of Firefox any longer. 3.5.x is now discontinued and security issues won't be patched.
15:18:50 <k4r4mb4> does that mean you you do not want to give me a link to older versions?
15:19:05 <JohnTHaller> he already did.
15:19:19 <benedikt93> no, sourceforge doesn't load on my side
15:19:27 <benedikt93> that page is extremely large
15:19:33 <k4r4mb4> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ does not work
15:20:06 <JohnTHaller> wfm, but I have a fast pc. it's a huge javascript heavy page. the beta is faster: https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files_beta/
15:20:27 <JohnTHaller> though still slow
15:22:40 <benedikt93> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./
15:24:56 <benedikt93> JohnTHaller, my PC is pretty fast, but my internet connection not at all
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15:27:51 <tylorlavoie> hello, I was wondering how the PortableApps installers were made?
15:28:50 <JohnTHaller> You follow the PA.c Format spec and just run the PA.c Installer on the app and it packages it for you. No coding necessary.
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15:29:23 <tylorlavoie> OK thanks
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15:29:41 <k4r4mb4> benedikt93 thank you so much.You are a magician.How did you find those urls?
15:30:03 <JohnTHaller> They're within that big huge slow page from earlier.
15:30:43 <benedikt93> the other option (as I couldn't load the site) is to click on the usual download link at PA.com
15:30:45 <k4r4mb4> In the source code of the page?
15:30:56 <benedikt93> and the remove the end of that link
15:31:34 <benedikt93> actually of the link it redirects to
15:31:42 <benedikt93> like http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PeaZip%20Portable/PeaZip%20Portable%203.4/PeaZipPortable_3.4.paf.exe/download
15:31:53 <benedikt93> gets http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PeaZip%20Portable/
15:32:00 <k4r4mb4> I see
15:34:05 <k4r4mb4> thanks so much for the help
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19:20:40 <pa_0696> Help. I was trying to get photos from my phone to my computer. Now when I try to open thunderbird I receive an error message - XULRunner
19:22:00 <pa_0696> ERROR: Platform version '1.9.29 is not compatible with minVersion>=1.9.2.11 maxVersion>=1.9.2.11
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19:22:13 <pa_0696> I can't even open thunderbird. What should I do?
19:25:41 <pa_0696> How long should I wait for any kind of response?
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19:27:19 <pa_0696> Can you help me with this issue? Or should I look elsewhere for assistance?
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19:30:01 <dboki89> pa_0696: please try and wait if somebody elsecan help you, I'm afraid I don't even know where to start with your problem..Sorry | Disclaimer: I'm not a PA developer, just a user like yourself
19:30:49 <pa_0696> Thank you for your honesty. I'll try to wait.
19:31:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0696: if you're using thunderbird portable, just reinstall the latest version.
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19:32:48 <pa_0696> The last time I did that, I lost the e-mails I wasn't ready to delete. I'm afraid I'll lose what is already there. Does that make sense?
19:34:34 <pa_0696> I don't know if it's thunderbird portable. It's 3.1, if that is helpful to you.
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19:38:25 <Bensawsome> pa_0696 i know it shouldnt delete the settings if you reinstall the portable version
19:38:39 <Bensawsome> to make sure it doesnt just backup the old version
19:39:09 <Bensawsome> copy the Data folder in the ThunderbirdPortable folder
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19:40:34 <pa_0696> Yikes! I'm a moron. How can I find out if it's the portable version? And how do I copy the data folder in the ThunderbirdPortable folder?
19:41:02 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0696: if it's the portable version, it should be inside the ThunderbirdPortable folder
19:41:26 <Gizmokid2005> with an executable that's 'ThunderbirdPortable.exe' when you launch it, and by default it should have a portableapps.com splash screen with it.
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21:27:36 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
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