IRC Log from 2010-10-29

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01:53:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
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01:57:07 <JohnTHaller> hola
01:59:09 <OliverK> hola, thanks JohnTHaller
01:59:37 <JohnTHaller> Sure think. Curious to see how the downloads go. I'm gonna mention it in a "New Apps" Facebook post in an hour or so, too. After a conference call.
02:00:27 <OliverK> we're at 1,010
02:00:53 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... lower than I thought it'd be. But Europe and Asia haven't really seen it yet either.
02:02:19 <JohnTHaller> back in a bit
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02:17:51 <ZachThibeau> howdy Chris
02:20:52 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau
02:20:58 <ChrisMorgan> First exam done, three to go :-)
02:21:12 <ZachThibeau> ohh fun fun :P
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02:54:54 <pa_1231> hi
02:55:05 <pa_1231> to uninstall a portable app, do i just delete the folder?
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06:45:24 <OliverK> hehe
06:45:32 <OliverK> and my timing is as bad as ever
06:47:41 <OliverK> night all
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07:00:55 <ChrisMorgan> The download statistics on my website are interesting... they seem to be indicating that WinDjView is currently the most popular app of mine, which is something I wouldn't expect at all.
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12:29:53 <pa_0479> does this product work on droid phones
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14:54:46 <solanus> ZachThibeau: Online?
14:57:03 <ZachThibeau> sorry just got back from home
14:57:06 <ZachThibeau> erhm
14:57:09 <ZachThibeau> work I mean xD
14:57:31 <ZachThibeau> but I'm back in black :P
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15:00:25 <solanus> You're working with sar3th on porting the platform to lazarus, right?
15:01:35 <ZachThibeau> trying too yeah
15:01:45 <solanus> I am a little stuck in trying to code something in my app...
15:02:33 <solanus> It's a ShellExecute vs. TProcess thing
15:03:22 <ZachThibeau> your best bet is to ask sar3th for that, I still haven't touched delphi yet, been busy PChat 2.0 thats needs to be finalized before the end of this month
15:05:23 <solanus> OK, thanks. When I see he's on, I'll get him. I've gotten a lot more done on my app - if I get past this, I can complete it in a day.
15:05:52 <solanus> Good luck with PChat - there's not much month left!
15:07:50 <ZachThibeau> I know, nearly 70% functionality has been ported over to the new frontend already
15:08:18 <ZachThibeau> just working on finishing the other 30% now and then the vigorous testing begins
15:11:44 <solanus> Cool. Well, I'll let you to it!
15:11:52 <solanus> Later
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15:44:32 <benedikt93> .tell JohnTHaller update.ini seems to have some issues again: The DownloadPath for geany somehow is in FretsOnFire section, and the FreeMat DownloadFile seems to be wrong (missing _English in the end?)
15:44:32 <GizmoBot> benedikt93: I'll pass that on when JohnTHaller is around.
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20:40:51 <pa_7312> hello
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20:42:55 <Simeon> hi all
20:43:13 <pa_7312> I have an hp mini...the res only allows 1024x600 so when i open the portable apps the top is cutoff. is therea way to resize? thanks
20:43:56 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7312: what part?
20:43:58 <Gizmokid2005> the menu?
20:44:04 <Gizmokid2005> or certain applications?
20:44:39 <pa_7312> yes the menu when its opned on the desktop
20:45:46 <Simeon> I dont think there is a way to resize it
20:45:52 <Gizmokid2005> no there isn't
20:45:59 <Gizmokid2005> but I didn't think it was >600px high...
20:46:06 <Gizmokid2005> john had checked for that last I knew.
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20:47:59 <Simeon> Chris: Is it possiblke to disable the splash in PAL?
20:48:47 <Simeon> I have an app that starts really fast and the screen is blocking it. Or should I just set the splashTime to 10 ms?
20:49:30 <pa_7312> is there a way to add something to the menu .ini file to change the size?
20:50:22 <pa_7312> will there be a fix in the near future?
20:50:52 <Simeon> I dont know
20:51:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7312: post in the forums and see what John says.
20:51:33 <Gizmokid2005> he's the one who can fix it.
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20:52:26 <pa_7312> Cause all the folks with mini net books cant use this program...thats too bad...its a great program otherwise..
20:52:52 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7312: I'm pretty sure it's not that tall...hang on
20:53:23 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7312: not sure what the issue is...the official menu is only 575px
20:53:31 <Gizmokid2005> which is small enough to fit with a standard size windows taskbar.
20:54:43 <pa_7312> do you have any idea why it is cutoff?
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20:54:55 <Gizmokid2005> is your taskbar more than one bar tall?
20:55:03 <Gizmokid2005> have you tried moving the menu to the bottom right?
20:55:35 <pa_7312> no. its only1 high
20:56:05 <pa_7312> only the top of the menu is cutoff
20:56:53 <pa_7312> my pointer cant get to the top where you could move it
20:56:53 <Gizmokid2005> it should be fine...can you take a screenshot?
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20:59:24 <pa_4495> hi
20:59:39 <pa_4495> FrostWire Portable 4.17.2 DevTest 1
20:59:42 <Simeon> hi pa_4495
21:00:05 <pa_7312> got a screenshot...how do i get it to ya?
21:00:19 <pa_4495> its pretty good
21:00:35 <pa_4495> is it safe to use
21:00:56 <Simeon> what do you mean safe?
21:01:09 <pa_4495> itd devtest
21:01:13 <ChrisMorgan> pa_4495: with development apps, you use them at your own risk.
21:01:40 <pa_4495> ok
21:02:04 <pa_7312> can i send the screenshot to Gizmokid2@vps.gizmokid2005.com ???
21:02:29 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7312: can you just upload it to tinypic or something?
21:02:31 <ChrisMorgan> If you're concerned, you can generally tell something about it by looking at the release notes and the comments in the thread, about the quality of it.
21:03:22 <pa_4495> it seems better then the one from the site
21:03:57 <pa_4495> its faster
21:04:09 <ChrisMorgan> Speed is rarely if ever going to be different.
21:04:35 <ChrisMorgan> Simeon: I'm surprised the obvious fix hasn't occurred to you... remove splash.jpg.
21:05:19 <Simeon> I feared a huge error sign for that case :)
21:05:36 <ChrisMorgan> No, it's safe.
21:05:57 <pa_4495> so its safe
21:06:19 <ChrisMorgan> The code is approximately ${If} ${FileExists} ...\splash.jpg || ${AndIf} $DisableSplashScreen != true
21:06:27 <ChrisMorgan> pa_4495: I was speaking to Simeon
21:06:32 <pa_4495> ok
21:06:55 <ChrisMorgan> With any DT app, use your own judgement. In general I'd say they're fine to use.
21:06:55 <Simeon> ok. I am restarting development on Birthday reminder. I'll do it the OOo-way: One main exe and the other one as compiled nsi file calling the main one with the argument.
21:07:18 <ChrisMorgan> OK. PAL 2.2 may have better support for that sort of situation.
21:09:15 <ChrisMorgan> Which reminds me ("reminds" isn't in the en_AU dictionary Pidgin is using!? o_O) ... I should document wildcards in PAL 2.1 and release Beta 1.
21:09:49 <Simeon> nice.
21:09:51 <pa_7312> Here is the url for the screenshoy http://tinypic.com/r/sw4yes/7 thanks...
21:10:42 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7312: ah, the dpi setting is high enough that the Platform is scaling itself up
21:12:04 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7312: if you lowered the dpi to 96 ("normal font sizes") or something like that it would fit.
21:12:40 <ChrisMorgan> As it is, you've set it to something higher which is designed for high resolution monitors.
21:13:35 <ChrisMorgan> One way of fixing it would be to decrease the base font size (probably in the advanced resolution area, at least it was in XP, not sure exactly where in Vista/7), and then if you want larger text still, change the font size in the theme settings.
21:14:42 <pa_7312> OK, I understand but, us folks with less than good vision are still at a disadvantage with this program if it cant be resized to fit any screen. Do you think this can be corrected in future release?
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21:17:37 <pa_4495> any 1 still there
21:17:38 <ChrisMorgan> The thing is, the system font size should really be what should be changed rather than the dot pitch.
21:17:40 <pa_7312> even a scroll on the side would work
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21:18:30 <ChrisMorgan> Nevertheless, in 2.0 there will be support for different sized themes and a "mini" theme is expected to be one provided.
21:19:13 <pa_7312> Great, Thank you
21:21:10 <pa_7312> got another question...can portable apps be made to autorun from thumbdrive
21:22:09 <Simeon> no. The only thing is what is already done that the menu appears in your autostart menu (on win XP)
21:22:31 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7312: not in Windows 7 due to security changes.
21:22:32 <Simeon> then you have to hit ENTER once. Win 7 has autorun disabled for security reasons
21:22:45 <ChrisMorgan> There is a utility you can install on a computer to do it though - http://portableapps.com/node/13770
21:24:08 <pa_7312> OK, thanks for all the help...
21:26:26 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome. Come again if you have any more issues or questions :-)
21:26:46 <Simeon> ditto :)
21:28:31 <pa_4495> have 1 more question
21:28:41 <Simeon> shoot
21:28:53 <pa_4495> hace xp
21:29:09 <pa_4495> in task manager there is users
21:29:22 <pa_4495> and then disconnect
21:29:32 <pa_4495> what is disconnect
21:30:08 <pa_4495> there is also log off
21:30:25 <Simeon> no idea what disconnect is for.
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21:31:06 <pa_4495> strange why they have it
21:32:21 <pa_4495> thanks all for your help
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21:42:22 <Simeon> gnight all
21:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> Night Simeon
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