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02:04:02 <ChrisMorgan> I find it fascinating that no one has commented on PAL 2.1 Beta 1.
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02:05:05 <JohnTHaller> I haven't had time, sadly
02:05:57 <ChrisMorgan> SF stats say 19 downloads, all on the 2nd, but it's known that its figures are always a couple of days out of date. I doubt that there have been no downloads since then.
02:12:51 <JohnTHaller> I got the updated inetc working (no more cache files) and got the ampersand issue fixed. Had to update all the language files as well as adding generating it into the generator and adding the bit in the installer to Name.
02:14:22 <ChrisMorgan> Fun. sed ftw :D
02:14:50 <JohnTHaller> sed?
02:15:21 <ChrisMorgan> `whatis sed`: sed (1) - stream editor for filtering and transforming text
02:15:36 <JohnTHaller> Ah. No, just notepad++ find and replace in files.
02:15:58 <ChrisMorgan> Gets used for updating files with regular expressions and that sort of thing. You can process a whole directory all at once rather than going through each one in Notepad++...
02:16:16 <JohnTHaller> Notepad++ did the whole directory all at once using Find in Files.
02:16:34 <JohnTHaller> Most solid developer text editors have that feature I believe
02:16:40 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, OK...
02:16:58 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, now I use Linux I can claim to be one of those geeks that uses grep, sed, ack, cat, vim, etc. without being laughed at.
02:17:14 * JohnTHaller will still laugh at you
02:17:30 <ChrisMorgan> What for? For being efficient?
02:18:05 * JohnTHaller will find something.
02:18:07 * ChrisMorgan wonders when the next big spam bot will attack
02:18:21 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
02:18:22 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I'm surprised about the scope of that one. It's counter-intuitive.
02:18:50 <ChrisMorgan> Having normal mods unable to block users makes it so that we're about the only ones that can stop it at the moment.
02:18:54 <JohnTHaller> They have to manually create the account and then login before firing it off. And you'd think the goal would be to not get noticed (which is why a lot wind up in Off Topic or comments on old posts)
02:19:06 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
02:19:29 <ZachThibeau> 21 unresolved references left to kill for PChat to utilize minigtk
02:19:36 <ChrisMorgan> Do you think they pay attention to the fact that we have efficient spam controllers? Of course not. We're just another site.
02:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> As far as I can tell, the distribution of comments is fairly random.
02:21:37 <JohnTHaller> No they don't. The usual MO is to make it small, though, since on nearly all sites, it'll be more likely to be missed but still get them the Google pagerank boost.
02:23:02 <ChrisMorgan> We need a banner which appears just for spammers saying "we have efficient spam control. No spam ever lasts more than a day*. [* or until Chris gets back from his holiday and goes through all comments ;-)]"
02:23:52 <JohnTHaller> And we have rel="nofollow" on all forum and comment links... so they get ZERO benefit
02:24:44 <ChrisMorgan> Except potentially from human users and dodgy crawlers
02:25:03 <ChrisMorgan> But unfortunately they don't think to check that before doing it. Easier not to, get yourself unpopular instead :-)
02:25:52 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: You're now a forum mod :)
02:26:01 <ZachThibeau> awesome
02:26:21 <JohnTHaller> Ability added to your account and added you to the team page section and forum header
02:26:28 <ZachThibeau> alrighty
02:26:36 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: congrats
02:26:49 <ZachThibeau> thanks
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02:28:42 <ZachThibeau> I shall keep a vigilant eye on the forum and when disaster strikes blame Chris :P (jk) no I'll do my best to help out where I can :)
02:31:07 <JohnTHaller> hmm... why didn't that work
02:31:20 <ZachThibeau> channel flags iirc prevents that
02:31:46 <ZachThibeau> OliverK: I think you set them up at the time, shortly after that spam attack on irc last year
02:32:04 <OliverK> no, I didn't set it up
02:32:04 <ZachThibeau> or was it someone else
02:32:09 <OliverK> ryan
02:32:11 <ZachThibeau> ah
02:32:13 <OliverK> you have to mod his flags
02:32:23 <OliverK> I can do it if you want JohnTHaller
02:32:28 <ZachThibeau> it was you that did it me on -ot
02:32:45 <ZachThibeau> need coffee brb
02:32:49 <OliverK> yeah, and we had a discussion. Fixed the problem as I recall :)
02:33:08 <JohnTHaller> how do youmod his flags?
02:33:16 <ZachThibeau> back
02:33:36 <ZachThibeau> and /cs flags #channel user your flags here iirc
02:33:54 <OliverK> yeah
02:34:03 <OliverK> ./cs flags #portableapps ZachThibeau +oO
02:34:04 <ZachThibeau> you can always use /cs help flags for more details
02:34:26 <OliverK> done
02:34:27 <OliverK> :D
02:34:35 <JohnTHaller> unknown command :(
02:34:35 <OliverK> try oping Zach
02:34:40 <ZachThibeau> ok
02:34:49 <OliverK> JohnTHaller I got it
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02:34:50 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:34:56 <ZachThibeau> there we go
02:35:14 <JohnTHaller> Ah, cool. Thanks :)
02:35:28 <JohnTHaller> Now you gots yourself a sherrif badge in Pidgin
02:35:28 <OliverK> no problem
02:35:41 <OliverK> haha.
02:36:03 <OliverK> Pidgin is okay. If I have to handle alot of channel stuff I like xchat\pchat\konversation
02:36:05 <ZachThibeau> I'm a green guy in PChat currently :P
02:36:27 <OliverK> over miranda, which is what I normally use. I'm actually outdated since the last update killed all my plugins :(
02:37:43 <JohnTHaller> ouch
02:37:48 <JohnTHaller> how'd that happen
02:38:24 <OliverK> I installed the latest update from pa.c and it nuked my app directory. Thankfully I had a backup
02:38:44 <ZachThibeau> tomorrow is friday and payday... yay bills :/
02:38:48 <OliverK> I'm to lazy to update manually. Didn't think about mentioning it until now. Sadly, the way miranda does plugins is less then ideal
02:40:11 <JohnTHaller> Plugins can't go in Data right? They all go in App\Miranda\plugins?
02:40:39 <OliverK> umm, lemme look
02:41:19 <OliverK> some of them are in plugins, but they also store other stuff in the miranda directory
02:41:23 <JohnTHaller> Wait... I just checked the installer and the App directory is preserved. Only App\miranda_ansi is removed (since it's no longer supported or included).
02:41:30 <OliverK> skins, icons, dictionaries
02:41:38 <OliverK> hmm, I wonder what I did . . .
02:41:51 <OliverK> I can try again
02:42:23 <JohnTHaller> Just tested and it did preserve additional files added to App\*
02:42:30 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... any idea what happened?
02:42:41 <OliverK> not a clue
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02:47:37 <JohnTHaller> Ok, PA.c Installer 2.0.6 is signed, sealed and being delivered. Let the releases commence...
02:50:01 <McNinja> huh. looks like everything is still there
02:50:08 <McNinja> i must have got something wrong in my plugins . . .
02:51:51 <McNinja> looks like somehow tabssrm isn't being loaded, which is bad
02:52:18 <JohnTHaller> hmm
02:52:38 <JohnTHaller> I'm about to post the new version... could be a bug. miranda does lots of updates and has not-so-infrequent bugs as a result
02:56:32 <McNinja> i would post it. If I recall from the changelist, there's enough that tabsrmm being disabled isn't a problem
02:57:07 <McNinja> I don't know how many people use it, in addition to adding that specific plugin. I'm going to try to update the plugin and then see what happens
03:04:54 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: WordReplace can replace & with && in one step perfectly. StrReplace couldn't but WordReplace is properly designed so it increments the counter as it should.
03:05:11 <JohnTHaller> Ah. Oh well :)
03:05:24 <McNinja> JohnTHaller: seems plugin is way out of date
03:05:27 <ChrisMorgan> & to && in one step without ~~~@@@~~~ would be neater ;-)
03:06:57 <ChrisMorgan> There seems to be a bit of inconsistency between PLUGINNAME and PORTABLEAPPNAME
03:08:12 <JohnTHaller> I know. I figured I'd worry about that later. I wanted to get this out and updated with the online installer fix.
03:10:50 <ChrisMorgan> I think there's quite a bit of cleaning up of plugin installers (in the Installer and the Format spec) that needs doing. I'd like to tackle it after I've finished with my exams.
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03:11:24 <OliverK> wow, some stuff is messed up. I hate upgrades
03:11:52 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: have you thought any more about my suggestion to move PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh into AppInfo?
03:12:21 <JohnTHaller> The plugin one would still have to be in source, though, since it's not really part of the app... and it's appinfo.ini is in source, too
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03:12:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, for the moment plugin installers can be left out of the discussion.
03:13:05 <ChrisMorgan> Mind you, there's a problem with multiple plugin installers clashing with one another, too. Ran into that with Sweet Home 3D.
03:14:01 <ChrisMorgan> I've updated the installer repository. Looking forward to when all our stuff will be in and will be developed in hg.
03:14:27 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, no easy way around plugin installers running into each other after being installed.
03:14:51 <JohnTHaller> but honestly not a big deal to have the eula overwritten, etc, since they're really only needed during install and you'd only really care about the most recent one
03:15:39 <ChrisMorgan> ... and the plugins each had a different EULA (FAL-1.3, CC-BY-SA-2.0 and CC-BY-SA-3.0 or something like that) ...
03:16:02 <JohnTHaller> right, but it doesn't matter once it's installed
03:16:26 <ChrisMorgan> True. As far as I'm concerned with those plugins, there's no need to keep track of it at all.
03:17:59 <ChrisMorgan> One way which could work would be Other\*Plugin or Other\Plugin\*, installer detects it (only one match allowed or installer complains it can't choose) and works off that. That would then entirely avoid name clashes (provided the developer chooses properly), and keep Other\Source clear for app-related stuff rather than plugin-related stuff as well.
03:18:39 <JohnTHaller> Kinda messy... and is it really necessary?
03:19:42 <ChrisMorgan> Or App\AppInfo\WhateverPlugin or something like that if we have App\AppInfo\Launcher, App\AppInfo\Installer.
03:20:07 <JohnTHaller> app\appinfo\plugins\* perhaps. once we get to it.
03:20:09 <ChrisMorgan> Personally I reckon it's neater. Other\Source has become the place to put random files with long names so they don't clash. Directories is neater.
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03:20:38 <ChrisMorgan> Using AppInfo to store all or almost all the portable app info centralises it in a sane location, I reckon.
03:20:38 <JohnTHaller> And maybe standardize on AppIDPluginID for the installer name, too
03:21:01 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, standardising plugins would be a good idea. And removing the unused keys.
03:30:11 <JohnTHaller> ok, installer posted.
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03:39:00 <OliverK> well, this is usable
03:39:01 <OliverK> sort of
03:39:12 <JohnTHaller> what is?
03:39:32 <OliverK> miranda went and updated some stuff, its pretty much trashed the way everything else was setup
03:40:28 <JohnTHaller> I'm thinking of switching GoogleChromeTest to GoogleChromeBeta to eliminate confusion. If I do, I could either just tell users its a break and to either rename or just delete and reinstall and the updater won't work... or have the updater rename it and move the data in removing the old version automatically
03:40:37 <JohnTHaller> though I don't know if that would affect chrome's profile
03:41:03 <OliverK> it'll probably break the theme though
03:41:47 <JohnTHaller> I doubt many people use it as their primary. People seem to use either stable or dev and just fire up beta to test.
03:41:58 <OliverK> yeah
03:41:59 <JohnTHaller> So maybe just switching and stating the change would be enough for now.
03:42:04 <OliverK> sounds good to me
03:42:28 <JohnTHaller> I'm going to support all 3 channels going forward the way Google does... so when stable updates and they just push that to beta as well, we're gonna do the same.
03:43:39 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I use Dev for my normal one and never use Beta.
03:44:28 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I'm just gonna change it and state that it was changed.
03:46:28 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good.
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04:23:47 <JohnTHaller> OliverK|Away: Your Miranda IM is ready
04:23:59 <OliverK|Away> hehe, thanks
04:24:12 <OliverK|Away> i'm actually working on firefox\thunderbird right now
04:26:29 <JohnTHaller> working on?
04:30:16 <OliverK|Away> yeah, i've got a messed up structure
04:30:24 <OliverK|Away> they reside on for C:\ and F:\
04:30:51 <OliverK|Away> I erase the data in F:\, copy from C:\ to F:\ erase C:\ and then copy F:\ back
04:30:56 <OliverK|Away> I need to make toucan do it for me
04:31:10 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok
04:32:19 * OliverK|Away needs to invest in some better equipment, but oh well.
04:33:39 <JohnTHaller> we all do... pretty much all the time except the week after we upgrade everything
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14:37:54 <Y3K> help!
14:37:54 <GizmoBot> Y3K: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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14:45:41 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
14:46:30 <Y3K> Morning sar3th!
14:47:19 <sar3th> hello Y3K
14:47:56 <Y3K> How are you :)?
14:48:08 <sar3th> fine, thanks
14:48:42 <Y3K> Awesome. Excuse me, do you have an "launcher.ini" example?
14:49:12 <Y3K> It's a little bit complex and I think need some help with it.
14:59:57 <BeckySanderlin`x> lol
15:00:09 <BeckySanderlin`x> oh shi.. wrong chan
15:00:18 <BeckySanderlin`x> sareth, stop being here.
15:00:47 <BeckySanderlin`x> you make me wanna say things i cant
15:02:20 <sar3th> Y3K: you can look at any app's launcher.ini, it should be located in App\AppInfo
15:02:28 <sar3th> that app has to use PAL though
15:03:52 <Y3K> I'm watching the Winamp's launcher.ini right now, thank you, (It's strange but a lot of the "Official Apps" doesn't have any launcher.ini)
15:04:07 <sar3th> yes, these apps use custom launchers
15:11:36 <Y3K> The [Enviroment] is only to set variables right? And isn't mandatory too.
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15:14:51 <sar3th> Y3K: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/ref/launcher.ini/environment/ ;P
15:15:11 <Y3K> Hahahaha, I'm reading it :P
15:15:21 <Y3K> But, watching another launchers.ini.
15:15:26 <Y3K> It usually isn't used :-S
15:15:39 <sar3th> yes, it is dependant on your target application
15:16:19 <Y3K> Mmm I'm watching an App that only uses the [Launch] section, and it already works.
15:16:33 <Y3K> But mine doesn't, only with that section :P
15:19:22 <Y3K> Sr3th, do you mind if I wrap my whole app, zip it and send you the link? I'm not asking you to do it for me, just to know where I'm wrong.
15:19:26 <Y3K> Please :(
15:19:36 <sar3th> sure
15:19:41 <sar3th> don't forget to include the regshot
15:19:47 <Y3K> Awesome. I don't ;)
15:19:50 <sar3th> if you are able to
15:22:15 <Y3K> I'll PM you to send the link ;)
15:22:34 <sar3th> sure thing
15:25:53 <Y3K> Done :)
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15:26:52 <sar3th> The file you wish to access is currently not available
15:27:15 <Y3K> ._______.
15:27:17 <sar3th> sorry, now it works
15:27:36 <Y3K> Awesome :D
15:30:26 <Y3K> I know the app is too simple... It's a shame I can't make it portable :(
15:32:05 <sar3th> from the regshot, i suspect you need to handle two things: the APPDATA-Folder and the Registry Entries under HKCU\Software\ColorSchemer
15:33:57 <Y3K> Awesome. Ok, I'll skip to these parts on the docs.
15:35:19 <sar3th> i have to leave for a bit, i will be back in about 1h
15:35:57 <Y3K> Ok, take care :)
15:36:00 <Y3K> And thank you.
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15:42:43 <ZachThibeau> hola John
15:42:44 <JohnTHaller> Ok, everything is up to date and the new installer with better online handling is on chrome (all 3) and utorrent. I'll repackage java, skype today but not do them as a revision, just a repack.
15:42:47 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:43:02 <Y3K> Hablan español?!
15:43:35 <ZachThibeau> alrighty, sounds cool
15:43:38 <JohnTHaller> un poco
15:43:53 <JohnTHaller> I can ask where the library is. But won't understand your answer unless you say it is in the city. :)
15:44:03 <Y3K> Genial! I can teach you a little more if you want :P
15:44:08 <Y3K> Hahahaha.
15:44:12 <Y3K> Great news John, thanks :)
15:44:32 <Y3K> (For the Apps 'fixes')
15:44:36 <ZachThibeau> hola is where I stop :P, I'm more of a french guy myself, being up in Canada it's our second language :P
15:45:10 <Y3K> Are you from Canada? Great! I want to travel there for a while.
15:45:27 <JohnTHaller> I can swear in French does that count?
15:45:46 <JohnTHaller> Here in NYC, people think being multilingual means being able to curse at everyone in their native tongue.
15:45:52 <ZachThibeau> well only if you're angry :P
15:46:14 <Y3K> And the only think I know of french is... Bonjour!
15:46:40 <Y3K> Hahahaha, that'd be funny (sometimes :P)
15:47:07 <ZachThibeau> learning spanish shouldn't be that too difficult though, french and spanish have it's smilarities
15:47:44 <Y3K> Yes, both are "romance languages".
15:48:07 <Y3K> As portuguese and italian does :)
15:48:23 <Y3K> I think there's another one but I can't remember which one :P
15:48:24 <ZachThibeau> well I was talking about words similarities :P
15:48:33 <Y3K> Me too :)
15:48:39 <Y3K> That how they are called.
15:49:08 <Y3K> Because the came from latin (and some other roots, but latin is the most common).
15:49:09 <ZachThibeau> well the french I know is more of a slang french
15:49:35 <ZachThibeau> the kind of french I know is called Acadian, which is very much different than france french when it comes to speaking
15:49:59 <ZachThibeau> it's also different from a province we have called quebec and their style of french
15:50:12 <Y3K> Oh heaven xD
15:50:13 <ZachThibeau> it's amazing the evolution of french in certain areas of Canada
15:50:28 <Y3K> Regionalisms (?)
15:51:59 <ZachThibeau> well to some degree too
15:52:36 <Y3K> And are you from Canada or moved there?
15:52:47 <ZachThibeau> I'm from Canada
15:53:24 <Y3K> Awesome :)
15:54:42 <ZachThibeau> hopefully I'll travel else where, not that I don't like Canada, I just want to see the world
15:55:40 <Y3K> Me too! I'm from México (yes, I know it's the "ugly guy" every where...), and I want to travel somewhere else, not for living there, just know another places, cultures and languages :)
15:58:43 <Y3K> How old are you Zach :)?
15:58:50 <ZachThibeau> anyways, I need to get to PChat, got 21 unresolved references that aren't going to solve themselves and I'm 22
15:59:30 <Y3K> So, are you leaving?
15:59:36 <Y3K> Oh, wait.
15:59:40 <Y3K> I undersantd.
15:59:45 <Y3K> Sorry.
16:00:04 <ZachThibeau> no I'm still here just I may not respond right away, when I code I tend to get lost in my work :P
16:00:33 <Y3K> Adiós :)
16:01:07 <Y3K> Me too :P
16:01:09 <Y3K> Good luck ;)
16:01:38 <ZachThibeau> actually first I'm going to post my binaries for mplayer for windows, just compiled the latest svn, I'm trying to compile the latest svn each week and post them on my blog
16:02:53 <Y3K> What? The Windows Media Player?
16:03:13 <Y3K> Ok, I'll read your blog to know what are you talking about :P
16:03:42 <ZachThibeau> mplayer is a command line media player originally for linux, there has been enough code in it to make it compilable for windows
16:03:55 <ZachThibeau> SMPlayer Portable is a frontend for mplayer
16:04:25 <Y3K> Woah! It sounds amazing!
16:05:17 <Y3K> Actually, I'm looking for a good portable video player (the audio one is Winamo, always), but still can't find it :P
16:05:30 <Y3K> I use K-Lite Codec Pack, but it isn't portable :P
16:05:39 <ZachThibeau> vlc is pretty good
16:06:16 <Y3K> I used it a few years ago (not portable)
16:06:34 <JohnTHaller> VLC is pretty much the gold standard now in portable players. SMPlayer is quite good as well, though.
16:06:34 <Y3K> I think I'll give it a chance again (it crashed a lot before to me).
16:06:35 <Y3K> :)
16:06:40 <ZachThibeau> vlc is portable :P
16:06:45 <ZachThibeau> it's available on portableapps.com
16:07:01 <JohnTHaller> I only use VLC for all video on my PC, home theater connection and portably
16:07:32 <Y3K> Only? What else can you use it :P?
16:08:31 <Y3K> Zach: Interesting blog theme :) I see you used Dawn brushes at the bg :P
16:10:01 <ZachThibeau> yeah, and the whole site is using html5 too, (need to fix it for other browsers that use the svg html5 stuff soon too) IE9 should be able to use it too but I can't confirm that atm
16:10:46 <Y3K> Did you used Boilerplate?
16:11:07 <ZachThibeau> boilerplate? never herard
16:11:21 <Y3K> You must check it out
16:11:43 <Y3K> http://html5boilerplate.com/
16:12:03 <Y3K> I'm not a fan of HTML5, but that "framework" has a lot of usefull tricks :D
16:12:27 <ZachThibeau> actually this is the first I ever heard of it :P
16:12:54 <Y3K> Give it a look, I know you'll get a few tips from it :)
16:13:19 <ZachThibeau> I'll bookmark it then
16:13:23 <Y3K> You can mix it with the 960gs too, togheter work like a charm :D
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16:19:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy Gringoloco
16:19:32 <Gringoloco> hi ZachThibeau :)
16:19:54 <ZachThibeau> how are you doing today?
16:20:36 <Y3K> Gringoloco: I know you talked to Zach but I want to tell you... Thanks for the Winamp! It's just awesome, works without any problem!
16:21:00 <Gringoloco> fine, got some work done on the house again
16:21:30 <Gringoloco> Y3K: Do you actually use it portably, on differnt computers ?
16:21:58 <Y3K> Yes :)
16:22:20 <Gringoloco> Did you try installing flash in it ?
16:22:25 <Y3K> It's a little weird the alert about "different location".
16:22:31 <Y3K> Ahm, nop...
16:22:50 <Y3K> Actually I de-installed a lot of plugins of it :P
16:22:51 <Gringoloco> alert about different locations ???
16:22:57 <Y3K> Mmm yes.
16:23:10 <Y3K> When I use it on one PC, and the USB is X:
16:23:19 <Y3K> And then want to use it on Y:
16:23:45 <Y3K> It prompts a message, saying "Hey, the last time you used WinamPortable from X: this may..."
16:25:06 <Gringoloco> :? And this happens often ?
16:25:20 <Y3K> Everytime I run it froma different location.
16:25:31 <Y3K> It also works if you change the name of the folder.
16:26:00 <Gringoloco> That's definitly not supported, I would not do it
16:26:01 <Y3K> Every change on the path makes it prompt.
16:26:11 <Y3K> What?
16:26:26 <Y3K> Change the folder name?
16:26:30 <Gringoloco> About the message, can you tell if it is Winamp. Meaning is winamp started when the message pops up
16:26:32 <Y3K> I did it for test only :S
16:26:46 <Gringoloco> Yes, do not change the folder name !!!
16:26:57 <Y3K> Let me take a screenshot ;)
16:27:47 <Y3K> I don't cahnge the folders name, it happens when I move the app, or run it from a different drive letter.
16:27:48 <Y3K> Any change on the path make it promps.
16:28:30 <Gringoloco> I need to know if it's the launcher or Winamp it self ? Before I can answer the question
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16:28:40 <Y3K> Thelaunche.
16:28:42 <Y3K> Launcher
16:29:27 <Gringoloco> So it's a MessageBox, before Winamp pops up ? Is it the most recent download ?
16:29:40 <Y3K> Yes, it's a MessageBox
16:29:57 <Y3K> I don't know if it's the most recent one.
16:30:00 <Y3K> Let me check it.
16:30:22 <Gringoloco> Developement test 4, 2010-10-25
16:30:35 <Y3K> Ah no.
16:30:37 <Y3K> It's the 3
16:30:41 <Y3K> Let me update it
16:31:16 <Gringoloco> and please test the flash support
16:31:59 <Y3K> But I don't use flash... Well, actually I didn't understand how "install" it on the Portable Winamp :$
16:33:25 <Y3K> Do I need to download the whole installer again?
16:33:49 <Gringoloco> It are the flash files from InternetExplorer, make sure you get the latest once
16:33:52 <Y3K> (Not the portable one, the Winamp)
16:34:11 <Gringoloco> Wait I'll give you the Windows folder...
16:34:31 <Y3K> Oh yes! I tried to install it.
16:34:36 <Y3K> But the folder doesn't exist :P
16:34:45 <Y3K> System32/Macromedia...
16:34:53 <Gringoloco> C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash
16:34:58 <Y3K> It jsut isn't there.
16:35:32 <Gringoloco> Does your InternetExplorer have flash installed ?
16:36:19 <benedikt93> on a 64bit Win it is AFAIK in C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash
16:36:29 <Y3K> I've Flash because I use it for development, so it isn't a standalone app :)
16:36:43 <Y3K> Oh, and also is 34bit
16:36:45 <Gringoloco> thanx benedikt93
16:36:46 <Y3K> 64
16:36:53 <Y3K> Thanks :D
16:37:17 <Y3K> I found it, it's on the adobe folder :P
16:37:24 <Y3K> *in
16:37:45 <Gringoloco> did you find Flash10i.ocx
16:37:46 <Gringoloco> ?
16:38:43 <Y3K> Yes, it's there.
16:38:49 <Y3K> Wait, I think it's... Flash10g.ocx
16:40:03 <Gringoloco> it's an old one, probably it will work but could leave registry entries behind on the computers you'd use it on. Best is to update it first
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16:40:46 <Felix__> hi
16:41:42 <Y3K> Ok, I'll update it.
16:41:54 <Gringoloco> it's a good test to see if it works on the 64 bit OS
16:42:02 <Y3K> It should be done from IE right :S?
16:42:27 <Gringoloco> yes
16:42:56 <Felix__> Does anybody know when Platform 2 Beta 6 will be released?
16:43:00 <Y3K> Awesome, I want to help.
16:43:14 <Gringoloco> I'm just starting to doubt about 64 bit vs the 32 bit version, it bound to run into trouble when using a 32 bit OS
16:43:24 <sar3th> Felix__: "when it's done" :/
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16:43:41 <Y3K> I love that phrase :P
16:43:48 <Gringoloco> :)
16:44:27 <Felix__> me too :P
16:44:28 <Y3K> I hate IE ._.
16:44:44 <Felix__> me too :D
16:44:51 <Gringoloco> sorry ;)
16:44:59 <Y3K> Hmm... I dind't knew it, there isn't flash for IE 64 bits ._.
16:45:20 <Y3K> That's why I have the G instead the I.
16:45:25 <Y3K> Only the old one is for 64
16:46:13 <Gringoloco> so try that ! just place it in WinampPortable\App\Flash
16:46:48 <Y3K> Oki :D
16:47:46 <Y3K> It's done.
16:47:51 <Y3K> Now what xD?
16:49:08 <Gringoloco> Flash should work in WinampP, but since you had installed already it probably hard to see the difference.
16:49:08 <Y3K> Sar3th: Can we talk via PM? I think the launcer.ini is *almost* finished :D
16:49:27 <Y3K> Gingroloco: Let me test it on my VM, it's virgin ;)
16:49:35 <Gringoloco> Y3K: It should also work in limited acounts
16:49:55 <Gringoloco> so try it when you are on the road
16:50:06 <Y3K> Of course I'll do it ;)
16:50:15 <Y3K> And what about the prompt message?
16:50:21 <Y3K> The launcher's one.
16:51:24 <sar3th> yes Y3K
16:51:55 <Felix__> I can't change the folder path in the menu in Platform 2 Beta 5 or 1.6 or is there any possibility?
16:52:05 <Gringoloco> flash in Winamp supports online services like 'Song of the Day' or 'spinner mp3 of the day', the last one is Winamp browser
16:52:08 <Gringoloco> http://www.spinner.com/category/mp3-of-the-day/
16:52:26 <Gringoloco> and youtube, etc of course
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16:53:18 <Gringoloco> I'll check-up that message, but it'll be good to get the screen shot :P
16:53:44 <Y3K> Oh yes!
16:53:48 <Y3K> Hahaha, wait a minute.
16:56:14 <Y3K> http://facturacionelectronica.cc/wp-content/uploads/Prompt.gif
16:58:21 <Gringoloco> and you are saying you did not change the location of the folder
16:58:51 <Y3K> No, I'm saying that I changed it!
16:59:01 <Y3K> Everytime I run it from a different location it prompts
16:59:23 <Y3K> And that usually happens when it's portable :P
17:01:00 <Gringoloco> So don't do it, as it says it's not advised to do so. Just install WinampPortable onto your usb-drive and use it on any computer, like that only the drive letter changes. If you want to run from a different location, just install a fresh copy into the new location
17:02:02 <Y3K> If I remember... I think it prompts even when only the drive letter changes (not 100% sure, but I think it happended me)
17:02:03 <Gringoloco> I do not see why people need to change the location of a portable app in the first place :?
17:03:14 <Gringoloco> If it does let me know in the forum topic, but I personally never experience it
17:03:51 <Y3K> Ok, I'll do it ;)
17:04:17 <Y3K> And I don't change the location of the folder, I was only testing :)
17:05:02 <Y3K> Any .sfw file should work on WinampP?
17:06:15 <Gringoloco> what is a .sfw file
17:06:36 <Y3K> The flash one.
17:06:42 <Gizmokid2005> that's a .swf
17:07:49 <Gringoloco> I never tried directly
17:08:11 <Y3K> Ok, let me try then :D
17:09:03 <Gringoloco> it seems, I have to reinstall WinampP :P
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17:13:04 <Y3K> Gringoloco: Can I PM you?
17:13:27 <Gringoloco> yes, for a bit cause I got to have dinner
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22:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: good to see you've started dealing with spam.
22:04:41 <ZachThibeau> well caught that before I went out to work
22:15:30 <ZachThibeau> tracker is my friend :)
22:17:11 <ZachThibeau> hey ChrisMorgan do you know the issue the mplayer build that's included with smplayer was again, I think it was related to audio/dvd related
22:17:29 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, following /tracker is the way to go.
22:17:41 <ChrisMorgan> Can't use audio CDs.
22:18:07 <ZachThibeau> I think I got audio cd playback working on my builds, I have yet to double check on my claim there
22:18:50 <ChrisMorgan> I believe DVDs are meant to work (why ~/.dvdcss was needing to be managed) but CDs don't (I tried to do it but couldn't get it working through VirtualBox so I never got to test its actual functionality).
22:20:52 <ZachThibeau> I'm rebuilding my compiled copy and doing another check, as I think I can get it to work
22:21:30 <ZachThibeau> if so we may be able to replace the mplayer build in smplayer with a newer revision and one that supports audio cd's
22:28:08 <Y3K> Hi Chris :D
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22:33:37 <ZachThibeau> lol sad to say but I've made mplayer my media player of choice and thats the command line interface :P
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