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01:43:15 <solanus> 'sup?
01:50:30 <Bensawsome> the sky
01:50:35 <Bensawsome> ;D
01:53:28 <solanus> slow night at the Circle K
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02:13:45 <ZachThibeau> Circle K :O
02:14:00 <ZachThibeau> thats a chain here in Atlantic Canada
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03:40:15 <Abel> Hi
03:40:21 <OliverK> sup?
03:41:01 <Abel> well I am in college at Wenatchee Valley and we are trying to come up with fund raising ideas
03:41:13 <Abel> for our computer club
03:41:47 <Abel> and idea is to make a usb with freeware apps on it to be able to make money with
03:42:02 <OliverK> well, you need to be careful with the freeware
03:42:15 <Abel> thats the thing
03:42:27 <OliverK> you can't just sell it on a usb stick. As far as stuff that's GNU, you have follow the GNU public license
03:42:31 <Abel> would we be able to just sell the usb and have the apps on it?
03:42:51 <OliverK> what does the GNU license say about it?
03:42:56 <Abel> or possible contact the devolopers and ask them?
03:43:21 <Abel> haven't read up on any of them just came up with the idea
03:43:22 <OliverK> read the gnu public lincense. It covers it
03:43:48 <Abel> of each app?
03:45:03 <OliverK> no. Each of the apps is licnesed under the GNU Public lincense, so you only have to read it once. They all cover the same
03:45:28 <OliverK> except firefox, which has the mozilla public license. You'll want to contact John T Haller in the forums about that one
03:46:49 <Abel> I see
03:49:49 <Abel> looks like we could charge
03:50:42 <Abel> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
03:50:49 <Abel> as I understand from that?
03:51:50 <Abel> specifically "A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus, you should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without modifications, either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to anyone anywhere. Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do not have to ask or pay for permission to do so. '
03:52:35 <Abel> though I belive our club would like to have the permission of the developer to do so
03:52:53 <OliverK> then ask
03:53:06 <OliverK> there's nothing that prohibits you from going above and beyond
03:53:20 <Abel> so I am understanding it right then?
03:54:53 <Abel> We're basically trying to get some pocket change for club activities such as going to Redmonds MS headquater and such
03:55:37 <Abel> Any ideas would be appreaciated
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11:24:08 <taneth111> aaah, incredible amounts of spam on the forums
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11:25:46 <Gringoloco> ZachThibeau: cna you stop the spammer
11:25:54 <Gringoloco> before it's to late :(
11:26:07 <Gringoloco> or Gizmokid2005
11:26:18 <taneth111> it's already too late man, it must have hit nearly every single post on the forums
11:26:24 <taneth111> OF ALL TIME
11:26:25 <Gringoloco> probably it's allready t
11:26:30 <Gringoloco> to late
11:27:02 <Gringoloco> I know, this is been happening for the last few days
11:27:24 <taneth111> Serious? I hadn't noticed o_o
11:27:26 <Gringoloco> If you know that day have to delete every single post manually
11:28:02 <Gringoloco> last worst, Chris got it at 250 messages, but this must be over 500 and rising
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11:56:51 <ZachThibeau> sorry back and I don't have that kind of permission :/, I can only censor/delete the post, I can't do anything about the user itself, and I have to work in a few
11:57:15 <ZachThibeau> I shall try my best with the time I have
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12:02:10 <ZachThibeau> found the mass delete function so it's going quicker than I thought
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12:02:35 <pa_2899> Spammer - http://portableapps.com/user/161417
12:02:51 <pa_2899> Another Spammer - http://portableapps.com/user/161424
12:02:52 <ZachThibeau> already being taken care of
12:03:15 <ZachThibeau> I just have a massive amount of posts to remove
12:03:32 <pa_2899> Coolies
12:03:41 <pa_2899> Have a gdnite all :)
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12:04:09 <ZachThibeau> unfortunetly my moderator privvies don't include banning users on the forum so at most I'm only slowing things down
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12:06:39 <ZachThibeau> man there has to be at least over 1000 spam messages
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12:17:16 <ZachThibeau> ok spam comments removed
12:17:48 <ZachThibeau> and the odd few spam topics are taken care of for now
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14:39:53 <dyne> hello
14:39:58 <dyne> i problem ipv6 :(
14:41:28 <dyne> pchat support ipv6?
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17:56:26 <LOGAN> hello people, what's the best protocol when my PC crashed and I had portableapps running?
17:58:14 <LOGAN> I know re-starting a portable app will fix any portability, but wondering if there is some way to check which apps were open and reopen/close them to fix any portability issues that might be caused by incorrect aborted apps?
17:58:47 <Gringoloco> Depends what apps, but I would say check your registry and APPDATA folder
17:59:20 <Gringoloco> Hmm, diner ready, sorry
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18:38:34 <ZachThibeau> back from work folks :)
18:40:49 <ZachThibeau> hey LOGAN whats up.
19:01:55 <LOGAN> hey ZachThibeau, how are you
19:02:39 <ZachThibeau> not bad, killed about over 200 or so spam comments this morning (or it felt like over 200 :/)
19:06:12 <Gringoloco_> must have been about 500 spam, you got the record
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19:07:01 <Gringoloco_> it was over 30 pages in the tracker
19:08:01 <ZachThibeau> yeah did a mass deletion, unfortunetly since I don't have the ability to ban users deleting was the next best thing I could do
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19:08:27 <ZachThibeau> and it looks like John or Chris got the accounts taken care of for the spammers
19:09:28 <Gringoloco_> this has been going on for the last few days, it's getting scarry
19:10:09 <ZachThibeau> it was nothing compared to what happened on irc about 2 years ago :P
19:11:01 <ZachThibeau> a few people know what I'm talking about, huge fiasco, it eventually led freenode to ban mibbit since that was what the spammer was using
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19:14:36 <Gringoloco__> I read the log, but what happend ?
19:16:26 <ZachThibeau> nothing after my last comment
19:17:07 <Gringoloco__> ..., huge fiasco, ... ???
19:18:03 <ZachThibeau> yeah, I stood guard for 3 days and nights, my sleep schedule hasn't been the same since :/
19:19:31 <ZachThibeau> long story short, some people thought it would of been fun to cause us trouble
19:19:42 <ZachThibeau> and it was 2 years ago too
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19:20:23 <Gringoloco> this connection is doing my head in :(
19:20:40 <ZachThibeau> I can understand the feeling
19:20:53 <ZachThibeau> i was the same way before replacing my router
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19:22:56 <Gringoloco> any luck with the compiling of minigtk
19:24:36 <ZachThibeau> none, it's severly broken, imho zed purposely cripples minigtk so no one else can use it
19:25:27 <Gringoloco> As I see, I was just reading the forum topic dating back to 13 januari 2010 :(
19:27:06 <ZachThibeau> the older minigtk seems possible but there are a lot of undefined references, almost too much to even work with. and the newer one is missing several key headers to even consider
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19:27:53 <ZachThibeau> and the latest minigtk (that zed hasn't even released labled 289 according to the def file I ripped from the latest release of xchat shareware) I don't know until zed releases that one
19:30:34 <ZachThibeau> the only thing I can think of is take the latest release minigtk port over the missing headers from standard gtk release and see what happened
19:31:34 <Gringoloco> What are you using to compile ? MinGW ?
19:35:32 <ZachThibeau> to compile minigtk I'm using visual studio
19:35:58 <ZachThibeau> and thats to compile the minigtk.dll file, I use dlltool from mingw to make the def file into a mingw library that I can link with
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20:26:13 <zadkiel> ello ppl
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20:26:25 <ZachThibeau> howdy
20:27:21 <zadkiel> does anyone know if/how one can suggest apps to be hosted on portableapps.com?
20:28:22 <zadkiel> grrrrrrrrrr theres a friggin midge or fruitfly or summing that keeps buzzing into my face
20:29:54 <ZachThibeau> forums would be the best place to ask really
20:30:43 <zadkiel> lol sez the app packager...
20:31:24 <zadkiel> so why would i go to a forum and wait an coupla days if i have the immediacy of IRC at my disposal?
20:31:27 <zadkiel> tsk
20:32:25 <ZachThibeau> I'm not really the app package
20:32:26 <ZachThibeau> r
20:32:56 <ZachThibeau> I'm a developer who develops the portable apps yes but releases are done by the head of the project which is John Haller
20:33:15 <zadkiel> okay - must make u a developer... just reading the list online ;P
20:34:20 <zadkiel> ok... but i dont see it there anyhoo... was hoping to get Partition Wizard Home Edition packaged, but forum search returns nothing...
20:34:34 <zadkiel> must be copyright blah blah blah :(
20:35:09 <ZachThibeau> every application is released by 1 person, who then signs the portableapps.com installer with a digital signature etc, either way your best bet is to post on the forums and most likely, most apps usually do and would require permission to package up
20:36:12 <zadkiel> i mailed partition wizard, they reckon you can just take the installation folder and dump it to USB, but i'd like to integrate it with my pot/apps launcher - don't have the tech savvy to do it myself
20:37:14 <ZachThibeau> well there is the PortableApps.com Launcher which is fairly easy to use but requires some knowledge to use, thankfully it has some documentation
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20:43:38 <ZachThibeau> spammer is back on the forums I'm getting the posts as it happens folks
20:49:03 <ZachThibeau> now the spammer is copying contents from the sidebar >_<
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21:08:40 <Gringoloco> ZachThibeau: That was fast :)
21:10:31 <ZachThibeau> was keeping an eye on the tracker when the first time it happened
21:10:36 <ZachThibeau> I think it's done now
21:10:46 <ZachThibeau> account is still active so it can still hit again soon
21:12:52 <ZachThibeau> hopefully John or Chris can get to removing the spam account
21:17:56 <ZachThibeau> looks like John just took care of the spammer
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