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00:49:10 <JohnTHaller> 50/42.
00:50:43 <ChrisMorgan> ~1.19047619
00:53:06 <JohnTHaller> apparently my cat was doing math
01:03:36 <ChrisMorgan> I thought that was the most likely solution. It does a surprising number of things.
01:04:32 <ChrisMorgan> Good thing there was the trailing . or else Python 2 would have said 1 instead of 1.1904761904761905
01:12:59 <JohnTHaller> ALright... dinner... back in a bit...
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16:23:12 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
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19:43:25 <JohnTHaller> We should have an update on the OpenOffice.org mark usage from Oracle next week if anybody is curious.
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19:45:53 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a developer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with the commandline
19:57:26 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: OpenOffice.org Mark Usage?
19:57:42 <gluxon> Oh, okay. Nevermind :)
19:57:47 <JohnTHaller> trademark permission, heh
19:58:19 <gluxon> Sorry if I missed this on the forums, but are we still supporting OpenOffice.org after LibreOffice is official?
19:58:39 <JohnTHaller> We will most likely do both.
19:58:53 <JohnTHaller> OO.o will remain popular for some time I'd wager
19:59:11 <JohnTHaller> OO.o may become LO eventually.. or vice versa.
19:59:20 <JohnTHaller> Marko's build env can now handle both.
19:59:30 <gluxon> :)
19:59:53 <gluxon> I can't imagine OpenOffice.org lasting very long though, it barely has any developers left.
20:00:37 <JohnTHaller> The most contributions to OO.o are made by Oracle-employed developers if I recall correctly.
20:00:41 <JohnTHaller> So while some very public exits have been made in the volunteer communities, it isn't like the developers are all gone.
20:02:49 <dboki89> gluxon: sorry to barge in, but as far as OOo and LibreOffice go, I believe it was said that majority of those who left OO.o were documentation staff, translators, testers... Most of the developers remain in OO.o
20:03:24 <gluxon> I thought Oracle asked all TDF contributors to leave?
20:03:52 <gluxon> Ironic that Oracle owns both "Oracle Open Office" and "OpenOffice.org".
20:03:57 <JohnTHaller> That sounds about right from what I've heard. Part of that is the fact that OO.o hasn't been as good about accepting outside contributions as they should. That's why Go-OO was formed by Novell.
20:04:02 <dboki89> I know Oracle asked them to leave the council, but don't remember them asking the same overall...
20:06:36 <gluxon> At the end of October 2010 33 developers left OpenOffice.org and moved to The Document Foundation to work on LibreOffice. - Wikipedia
20:07:14 <JohnTHaller> Inlcuding Marko
20:07:16 <gluxon> Hm.. not sure if the 33 developers count translators, and that other stuff.
20:07:35 <gluxon> Go Marko :D
20:11:37 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: Are we allowed to do launchers in C++? :D
20:13:44 <dboki89> gluxon: this is the log from OO.o IRC meeting, prior to those TDF members leaving, in which they only asked TDF members to leave their OO.org Community *Council*. Have you read in any another place they asked *all* TDF members to leave the community (vs to leave the community council)? --> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20101014
20:14:10 <dboki89> and these 33 "developers"... well, here's the original list of them --> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@native-lang.openoffice.org/msg04865.html
20:14:30 <dboki89> most are translators, documentation folks and similar. only a few are developers
20:14:42 <JohnTHaller> gluxon: As much fun as it would be, I think C++ launchers would be rough maintenance-wise.
20:15:51 <dboki89> gluxon, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, I would very much like Libre to surpass OO.o in any way, and I'm very glad that they gained financial support from many sources, but most of the information people put out there are invalid...
20:16:03 <gluxon> Can I try it and see how it goes?
20:16:09 <gluxon> dboki89: Thanks :)
20:16:18 <dboki89> you're welcome :)
20:18:52 <gluxon> So.. the TDF developers were afraid Oracle would shut down OpenOffice.org, and left, but when they left, Oracle kept OpenOffice.org going? O_O
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20:19:53 <gluxon> dboki89: Sweet, Mark Moeller is first on the name list! :D
20:20:15 <dboki89> ahaha, just noticed it now :) that's cool
20:22:00 <dboki89> on the bright side, IIRC, Go-OO developers have merged with LibreOffice team, so Libre has more developers than just those initial ones :)
20:24:07 <gluxon> Heh :P
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21:48:46 <OliverK|Away> .twitter geanyportable
21:48:47 <GizmoBot> geanyportable: What's this? An update? Sadly, its true. I found some bugs in the launcher, but they are fixed now: http://geanyportable.org/ -- http://twitter.com/geanyportable/status/7550979448766464
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22:08:46 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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23:30:24 <JohnTHaller> Hey, you guys like jPortable or JPortable better as the new name for Java Portable?
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23:35:00 <JohnTHaller> hi chris
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23:36:04 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: jPortable
23:36:31 <Gizmokid2005> JPortable
23:36:39 <Gizmokid2005> jPortable look too much like an Apple name...
23:36:44 <JohnTHaller> here it is lowercase: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
23:37:51 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: if you do a revision on a package, what do you increment in the appinfo.ini?
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23:49:03 <JohnTHaller> If the app uses 1, 2 or 3 numbers in the version, we increment the 4th digit.
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