IRC Log from 2010-12-05
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00:14:09 <ZachThibeau> hola John
00:14:13 <JohnTHaller> hola
00:14:20 <ZachThibeau> about to package up PChat Portable for you
00:14:24 <JohnTHaller> cool
00:14:48 <ZachThibeau> I retook the screenshot but I think it may not be a great one lol, you be judge http://pchat-irc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/pchat2.png
00:15:29 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, all the white-out-ing is kinda distracting
00:15:47 <ZachThibeau> yeah I'll retake it soon
00:15:58 <ZachThibeau> still have a bunch of in and outs in my log atm
00:16:18 <JohnTHaller> That kind of goes with the territory in IRC.
00:16:32 <ZachThibeau> suppose
00:16:54 <JohnTHaller> You try our the faster Development Tests page?
00:17:20 <ZachThibeau> I checked it out actually, just briefly
00:18:03 <JohnTHaller> I'm on there picking today's app release
00:18:42 <ZachThibeau> cool
00:22:48 <JohnTHaller> Disk Cleaner may be a nice one: http://portableapps.com/node/23757
00:25:57 <JohnTHaller> You tried out Console? http://portableapps.com/node/11973
00:26:15 <OliverK|Away> by chad?
00:26:20 <JohnTHaller> Yeah
00:26:33 <OliverK|Away> I used that awhile back. It seemed to work alright
00:26:54 <JohnTHaller> He's been keeping it updated the whole time. And I know I've heard people inquire about it before.
00:27:05 <OliverK|Away> haven't used it in awhile though. Much easier to do win+r cmd enter
00:27:08 <OliverK|Away> indeed he had
00:27:11 <JohnTHaller> yeah, true
00:27:15 <ZachThibeau> it's pretty good
00:27:26 <OliverK|Away> yeah, it worked fine last I remember but I never tested it indepth
00:28:02 <JohnTHaller> I'm looking through to pick an older app that's been kept updated by the dev. Sticking to one new one a day still.
00:28:28 <OliverK|Away> sounds good
00:28:49 <JohnTHaller> Disk Cleaner only kinda fit since it was taken over by someone else. But Console seems like it'd fit the bill.
00:29:54 <OliverK|Away> i believe it worked without any problems, but its been a long time since I used it. I quit svcc and stopped being portable about things
00:30:15 <JohnTHaller> svcc?
00:30:32 <OliverK|Away> well, I still use portable stuff but the need comes from not cluttering my computers
00:30:38 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: my community college
00:30:39 <JohnTHaller> right
00:30:43 <JohnTHaller> ah ok
00:31:20 <OliverK|Away> also makes it easier to sync settings, for the most part. Linux still has me confused sometimes :D
00:37:28 <OliverK|Away> oh, also. I need to setup a blog or something. Geany Portable 0.19.2 is going to be delayed a bit, I have finals week this week
00:37:35 <OliverK|Away> so, it should be out shortly
00:37:44 <JohnTHaller> Ok
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00:37:55 <PortableAppsUser> smile you're on candid print screen
00:38:02 <JohnTHaller> Eeeek
00:38:06 <OliverK|Away> :O
00:38:10 <OliverK|Away> hello!
00:38:12 <JohnTHaller> :-/
00:38:17 <OliverK|Away> we love pchat!
00:38:18 <JohnTHaller> Aw, a made a funny face.
00:38:27 <OliverK|Away> lorem ipsum
00:38:30 <JohnTHaller> Do it again, can't be seen like this by PChat users.
00:38:33 <PortableAppsUser> oops forgot to open an explorer background lol
00:38:43 <OliverK|Away> hmm?
00:38:54 <OliverK|Away> no! this is perfect :)
00:39:06 <PortableAppsUser> new screenshot for PChat Portable's page :D
00:39:09 <JohnTHaller> Method for getting good screenshots under Windows 7 without needing any extra software.
00:39:27 <PortableAppsUser> I just use alt prnt scrn
00:39:39 <PortableAppsUser> grabs the active window
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00:39:50 <OliverK|Away> +1
00:39:55 <JohnTHaller> Maximize an explorer window browsed to a directory without much in it (nice white background). Se the target to 800x600 exactly using something like Sizer (ok, so you need one bit of software). Then Ctrl-Alt-PrtScrn
00:47:18 <ZachThibeau> http://pchat-irc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/pchat.png :D
00:50:30 <ZachThibeau> any issues with that one?
00:53:41 <JohnTHaller> that works
00:53:51 <ZachThibeau> awesome
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00:53:58 <ZachThibeau> getting PChat 1.3.1 packaged up now
00:57:48 <ZachThibeau> brb
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01:27:28 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller|food: just sent you an email for the release and the source for the new PChat Portable update
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02:44:52 <ZachThibeau> hola Scriptdaemon
02:45:03 <Scriptdaemon> 'Ello.
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04:46:51 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app: Console Portable: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-04_-_console_portable_2.00_b147
04:46:56 <ZachThibeau> nice
04:47:09 <JohnTHaller> He'
04:47:20 <JohnTHaller> He'd been keeping it up to date for a while, so I figured it was due.
04:48:49 <ZachThibeau> :)
04:50:20 <JohnTHaller> 4 for 4 this month
04:51:46 <ZachThibeau> shoot I forgot to add the spell checking library for PChat, I'll hit it up next release, got some stuff in testing for 1.x series
04:52:12 <JohnTHaller> How big a deal is it to add
04:53:01 <ZachThibeau> well I need to add handling for enchant since enchant will leave a folder %APPDATA% with s .dict file in it
04:53:35 <JohnTHaller> Right. We need to come up with a universal way to handle that for multiple apps now.
04:53:45 <JohnTHaller> May have to do custom enchant code
04:54:09 <ZachThibeau> I believe abiword uses it doesn't it?
04:54:24 <ZachThibeau> and some other apps in dev test I believe use it too for spell checking
04:55:14 <JohnTHaller> multiple things do
04:55:48 <ZachThibeau> anyways I got PChat's internal tray icon working for minimizing to tray and restoring, however tray notifications still broken atm
04:56:04 <ZachThibeau> just not enabled in 1.3.1 lol
04:56:19 <ZachThibeau> just fixed it a few minutes ago
04:57:37 <ZachThibeau> other than the notification bubbles not working, the built in minimize to tray is working as it should
05:01:33 <ZachThibeau> anyways I'll save the spell check for 1.4 when it comes or maybe post a revision once enchant handling is figured out
05:12:08 <ZachThibeau> anyways night
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05:43:55 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: is Console PAL?
05:44:14 <JohnTHaller> It is indeed
05:44:30 <JohnTHaller> Source section in downloads links to the PAL page
05:49:36 <ChrisMorgan> Good, need to add it to the
05:49:36 <ChrisMorgan> list then.
05:50:01 <JohnTHaller> Figured
05:50:13 <JohnTHaller> Was gonna tell you in IRC but you weren't around when I posted it
05:50:27 <ChrisMorgan> Ya, saw it just now.
05:50:46 <JohnTHaller> Chad was using PAL on his own, too
05:51:07 <ChrisMorgan> OK, couldn't remember if he had been. I should look at it.
05:56:48 <JohnTHaller> No complaints on the Opera 11 Beta 1 release with PAL2.1b2 btw
05:58:08 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, Mark checked over it too and is happy with it, I believe.
06:13:45 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Any thoughts on having PAL auto-generate an appropriate readme.txt and example AppNamePortable.ini?
06:14:10 <ChrisMorgan> That's something I'll be tackling in a later alpha of my Development Toolkit.
06:14:58 <JohnTHaller> I can have PAI do it for now if you want. I'm doing the new PAI with 7zip 9.20 final in it tomorrow. It was asked about and seemed like a good idea. But only if one wasn't already present, of course.
06:23:06 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think PAI should do it, really; at the moment I think it should steer clear of any special behaviour for PAL, leave that for when it's all integrated (which is what I'm working on)
06:40:06 <JohnTHaller> alright... bedtime
06:40:11 <JohnTHaller> makese sense, btw
06:40:14 <JohnTHaller> gnight man
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12:25:18 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:01:01 <helpme> can someone help me?
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15:49:11 <dob1> hi, can you suggest to package far manager ? it is opensource so not license issue
15:49:32 <dob1> or better far manager + conemu
15:50:22 <dob1> ops *can i suggest :)
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16:38:14 <ZachT|AFK> hola SteveLamerton
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16:38:21 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
16:38:37 <ZachThibeau> how's things?
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16:38:58 <SteveLamerton> Pretty good thanks, you?
16:39:07 <ZachThibeau> oh not too bad
16:39:19 <ZachThibeau> think I fixed dcc for PChat 1.x
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16:40:38 <ZachThibeau> spell check works too, just John is trying to figure out how to enable it globally since we have some apps that use it
16:41:02 <SteveLamerton> What does it use, aspell?
16:41:58 <ZachThibeau> enchant
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16:43:22 <SteveLamerton> The one that abiword uses?
16:43:27 <ZachThibeau> which the backend enchant uses is myspell
16:43:28 <ZachThibeau> and yes
16:43:45 <ZachThibeau> infact enchant is maintained by abisource
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16:44:54 <SteveLamerton> Well there you go, so what else uses ut, I am intrigued!
16:46:01 <ZachThibeau> uhm hmmm, I don't know, John just said some apps use it :/
16:46:10 <ZachThibeau> he didn't name anything really specific
16:46:17 <SteveLamerton> Fair enough :)
16:47:06 <ZachThibeau> have you looked at 2.0's source yet?
16:48:32 <SteveLamerton> Not yet, not free until the end of the week :)
16:49:18 <ZachThibeau> no worries
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17:10:02 <dboki89> Serbia, tennis champion of the world in 2 points...
17:10:12 <dboki89> 1
17:12:29 <dboki89> WIN!!!
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20:06:29 <ZachThibeau> brb, need to run to the store
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20:37:20 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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20:37:47 <ZachThibeau> the Zach is back
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20:48:34 <ChrisMorgan> Bug in Console Portable, will ruin drive letters of the form X:\\ in Data\settings\console.xml by replacing %PAL:LastDrive%\\ with %PAL:CurrentDrive%\\ - but PAL:CurrentDrive is wrong, should be PAL:Drive.
20:49:53 <Gringoloco> Aai, did get tested at all ?
20:52:09 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know. I wish John would tell me shortly before releasing such apps, I'd like to run over them quickly.
20:53:10 <Gringoloco> Same for WAtomicP, at the time I was testing it, it got released, quite odd
20:53:44 <ChrisMorgan> Well at least it doesn't have such issues with its launcher.
20:53:59 <Gringoloco> ...I just wanted to leave a message all the previouse launcher source got left in the source folder
20:54:06 <Gringoloco> yes was a minor issue
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21:07:36 <Simeon> hi all
21:07:44 <Simeon> Hi Gringoloco, ChrisMorgan
21:08:12 <Simeon> About WAtomic: That was my mistake. The ini file is wrong too as it has too many entries.
21:09:09 <Simeon> noticed it 30 mins too late :(
21:10:11 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Simeon
21:10:49 <ZachThibeau> howdy Simeon
21:13:06 <Simeon> the problem witn games like WAtomic is that there is no need to update them often so it might go unfixed for a while.
21:14:07 <ChrisMorgan> What problem with WAtomic?
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21:15:01 <Simeon> old (=non PAL) source files left inside /Other/Source and the ini files has too many entries as PAL doesnt support renaming the executable/folders
21:15:24 <Simeon> not a big problem imho as it doesnt affect the functionality#
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21:17:00 <Simeon> hi Blint
21:17:06 <Simeon> hi gluxon
21:17:17 <gluxon> Hey Simeon, everyone else :)
21:17:18 <Simeon> oh - and Steve is here too :)
21:17:32 <ZachThibeau> yes he is :)
21:17:39 <ChrisMorgan> Nah, no big problems there. Just need to make it so my validator will be sure to pick up on such things.
21:18:07 <Simeon> glad I could provide you with some "error-input" ;)
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21:18:47 <Simeon> I suppose compliant with portableapps.com "rules", there is no projected release date??? ;)
21:19:35 <Blint> I've noticed something, before I entered the IRC chat, I would have at least my hostname, but for the past couple of days, I've not had a hostname assigned to me.
21:19:44 <Blint> all it ever does is show my IP address
21:20:22 <SteveLamerton> I am indeed, hi all :)
21:20:35 <Blint> Do you think its something to do with the client or my IP?
21:20:48 <Simeon> no idea Blint
21:22:57 <ZachThibeau> Blint: you are probably looking for a vhost or something, I would suggest stopping by freenode :)
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21:23:39 <Blint> Really? and what's vHost, I'm kinda like a n00b when it comes to IRC stuff xD
21:27:07 <ZachThibeau> virtual host, basically it masks your ip
21:27:39 <ZachThibeau> just go to #freenode and inquire about a mask and they can provide you with details :)
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21:33:47 <Blint> I've already done that bit, but its only before I mask my IP though
21:34:34 <sar3th> then auth before you join -> no one will see your ip (if that's what you want)
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21:51:46 <Simeon> gnight all
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21:57:56 <SteveLamerton> Night all
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