IRC Log from 2010-12-18
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00:11:46 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: and to be honest I don't evenunderstand what or how those extra features are used for
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00:12:26 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
00:16:54 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: development/test, for example
00:18:23 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: no idea so is there a guide or a manual or explanation as to what a developer does, responsibilities, has for options, powers etc....
00:18:58 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: details how updates are handled where they need to go how they need to be implemented or anything like that?
00:19:46 <ChrisMorgan> In general you don't need to do anything extra. If you're not entirely comfortable editing a certain page, just ping me or John.
00:26:45 <vf2nsr> So if a program is updated do I create update and put it somewhere for john to get so he can put on server or??
00:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, give John the file and he repackages it to sign it, etc.
00:31:29 <OliverK> you need to codify this stuff ChrisMorgan
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00:42:31 <XhmikosR> ChrisMorgan: about Regshot, for some weird reason when Regshot is runs with the launcher is noticeably slower
00:43:11 <XhmikosR> try running directly Regshot and you'll notice it
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03:35:46 <pa_4427> Anyone know when Firefox Portable 3.15.16 will be available?
03:36:00 <SniperNine> you mean 3.5.16?
03:36:30 <pa_4427> Yep,, That's what I mean.
03:37:06 <SniperNine> uhm, can I ask why? You should be using the latest which is 3.6.13 unless you have a real reason
03:37:35 <pa_4427> I have issues w/Search Bar and FF 3.6.
03:37:38 <SniperNine> otherwise, I'm not sure. The general answer is "when its done". We don't know that particular developer's time table
03:37:50 <BeckySanderlin`x> issues, what isssues you have w/ search bar?
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03:38:40 <SniperNine> 3.5.x is a legacy release . . . and thus it puts you at more of a risk online. You should move now. I'm sure if you tell us what the problems are we might have some suggestions for workarounds
03:38:59 <pa_4427> Search Bar in FF 3.6 does work to open a new page (as per my config).
03:39:12 <pa_4427> That is does NOT work.
03:40:06 <SniperNine> then I suggest contacting the developers of the Firefox to get that fixed . . . . it isn't safe to be using 3.5.x
03:40:16 <pa_4427> In my Search Bar, new page open unless I click on Seacch Icon... then it's same page.
03:41:28 <SniperNine> sorry, not a firefox guru
03:41:29 <pa_4427> Yea... and it isn't saf to use IE 7... but I don't want IE 8... LOL!
03:42:07 <pa_4427> Excuse my typing ... been a long week.
03:42:56 <pa_4427> FF 3.5.16 may be legacy, but it is current support from Mozilla.
03:43:56 <pa_4427> Oh well. I asked. Thanks for answers. Merry Christmas all!
03:44:04 <SniperNine> the same to you
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04:22:12 <JohnTHaller> hola
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04:27:54 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: This look ok to you? http://pastebin.com/S0RkRukr
04:28:57 <ChrisMorgan> [FilesMove] should never have a trailing slash
04:29:13 <JohnTHaller> Ok
04:29:38 <JohnTHaller> I started with computerfreaker's INI and added language switching
04:30:34 <ChrisMorgan> Both those WaitFor* should be removed as they're true by default
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04:30:45 <kalpa_> hello
04:31:00 <kalpa_> i want to localise software
04:31:10 <kalpa_> can any one help me
04:31:25 <ChrisMorgan> kalpa_: what do you mean?
04:32:24 <kalpa_> i want to translate the language of sw
04:32:49 <kalpa_> localization
04:33:21 <ChrisMorgan> What language?
04:33:36 <kalpa_> for sinhala
04:37:23 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: the package is in somewhat of a mess, including the PAL source. Best to start from a clean copy of the template and copy just what's needed over.
04:37:47 <JohnTHaller> what's in a bit of a mess?
04:38:10 <ChrisMorgan> Look in Other\Source!
04:38:42 <JohnTHaller> why is the source in there?
04:38:55 <KindOne> can I suggest a app for the "Enjoy the 31 Days of App-Ness! " ?
04:39:19 <JohnTHaller> Sure, though we're mostly going from our queue of apps already packaged and just about ready
04:39:28 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: don't ask me. It shouldn't be.
04:39:39 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I'd also suggest NorwegianNynorsk=Norwegian - Norwegian (Nynorsk) people probably prefer Norwegian to English.
04:40:53 <JohnTHaller> added. did the same for SpanishInternational
04:46:57 <ChrisMorgan> kalpa_: we don't have any Sinhala translations, if you wish to help out that'd be good. However, when it comes to the Launcher and Installer, there is no Sinhala NSIS translation either which would mean at least part of that would need doing before we can use translations.
04:47:43 <JohnTHaller> But if you translate the platform and NSIS, then we'll have it for the platform, installer and launcher and then we can do apps from there.
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04:48:31 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: I think License.txt in Other\Source should be changed to LauncherLicense.txt
04:49:08 <ChrisMorgan> Good idea. I need to change the first paragraph in Readme.txt as well.
04:49:16 <JohnTHaller> And Readme should be altered to take into account freeware (aka, "source, if available," etc)
04:49:17 <JohnTHaller> ah
04:49:20 <JohnTHaller> just typing that
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05:05:44 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Did you see my post about RedNotebook?
05:06:03 <JohnTHaller> not yet
05:06:09 <JohnTHaller> link me?
05:06:19 <JohnTHaller> Any quick notes before release? http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/converber_portable
05:07:24 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/node/23462 last note I believe
05:08:03 <vf2nsr> converb page looks good
05:08:10 <JohnTHaller> So b3 IS the stable release? when is he posting it as final?
05:09:21 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: the appicon.ico 48x48 is badly scaled
05:09:33 <vf2nsr> Did not say I qouted his note
05:09:44 <vf2nsr> just that he was
05:09:59 <vf2nsr> in fact the help in program does not mention it as a beta
05:10:37 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: the 128x128 also looks a bit tacky, do you want me to try to improve them now?
05:11:30 <JohnTHaller> It's as close as I could get it from the iOS one (only 128). You're free to mess with it and I'll update it on server
05:14:12 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: if you like I can get you his text about the bug in stable and the fact that 1.1.2 beta had fixed the bug'
05:14:57 <ChrisMorgan> The 48x48 can be improved immediately by using cubic interpolation in the GIMP rather than IcoFX's own scaling functionality.
05:15:50 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: I'd like to wait until he calls it stable
05:16:16 <JohnTHaller> Perhaps later. I had to post it. Migraine coming so I'm gonna have to leave shortly
05:16:24 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: ok will let him know tyvm
05:19:01 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Just emailed author when it goes on his site I will rework it and let you know
05:19:23 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Good luck with migraine
05:20:01 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
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12:16:06 <Simeon> morning all you lurkers out here! :)
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16:02:17 <bencc> when using the portable version of chrome, opera and FF it doesn't install anything on my computer?
16:02:37 <bencc> for example, if using chrome 9dev, it won't do anything to stable release installed?
16:03:16 <ZachThibeau> it will not affect anything you have installed locally
16:04:41 <bencc> thanks
16:05:14 <ZachThibeau> not a problem, anytime
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17:16:31 <pa_1916> Recently, my FFP wont open. I think it may be corrupted. I did read the FAQ/Forum but I am not sure that I understand what I read. Should I download and install a newer version and install it over the current version? WIll this fix my FF problem? I have save the JSOn bookmark backup files (which is all I really care about). So it looks like I should be able to restore from there if needed. Is there anything else I need to s
17:22:17 <pa_1916> or should I just uninstall and reinstall?
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17:45:45 <pa_1916> help
17:45:51 <pa_1916> any suggestions
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18:08:02 <pa_1916> will try later thanks
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18:24:07 <acizninja> hi all :)
18:24:24 <acizninja> i want to ask
18:25:04 <acizninja> hiii
18:26:30 <dboki89> acizninja: jusk ask your question, and if anyone can help they will | Disclaimer: I'm not a PA developer, just a user like yourself.
18:26:50 <acizninja> ok thanx
18:27:26 <acizninja> portableapps don't support on win7 64 bit ??
18:28:03 <dboki89> portableapps should work on Windows 7 64bit, if that is what you are asking
18:28:58 <acizninja> i can't install porttableapp on my win7 64bit
18:29:13 <dboki89> do you get any error message?
18:29:28 <acizninja> yes
18:29:32 <vf2nsr> I am currently on WIN 7 with PA and it is working
18:29:43 <vf2nsr> 64bit
18:29:46 <dboki89> which error o you get?
18:29:53 <acizninja> wait..
18:29:55 <dboki89> you most likely got a corrupt download
18:31:55 <acizninja> i got message : error opening file or writing
18:32:38 <vf2nsr> are you install to hard drivew or usb device?
18:32:50 <acizninja> C;\Program Files\portableapps\documents\desktop.ini
18:33:01 <acizninja> to HD
18:33:06 <ZachThibeau> for one thing
18:33:18 <ZachThibeau> path has a space in it, do not install it to Program Files
18:33:35 <ZachThibeau> it has to be installed root level
18:33:44 <vf2nsr> Yup Zach is correct and types faster than me
18:33:53 <acizninja> yes, im root level
18:34:14 <ZachThibeau> no root level should be C:\portableapps not C:\Program Files\portableapps
18:34:18 <acizninja> so where i can install ?
18:34:38 <acizninja> drive C or D ? others
18:34:53 <ZachThibeau> I just pointed to you where it should go
18:35:11 <acizninja> ok, i will try
18:35:12 <acizninja> wait..
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18:37:22 <acizninja> hey all, thanx for you answer
18:37:43 <acizninja> i have installed
18:37:44 <vf2nsr> :) and Zach is awesome
18:37:59 <acizninja> thanx very much :)
18:38:17 <ZachThibeau> well I don't know about awesome but I'm cool
18:38:31 <acizninja> lol
18:38:35 <vf2nsr> brb need to find coffee
18:38:41 <ZachThibeau> same here
18:38:49 <ZachThibeau> actually
18:38:58 <ZachThibeau> I need to head to the store to pick up a few things
18:39:09 <ZachThibeau> be back in a little while
18:39:11 <acizninja> @all : what are you doing ?
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18:49:53 <vf2nsr> Found it and boy is it good
18:49:54 <vf2nsr> lol
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19:20:44 <ZachThibeau> and I am back
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23:29:48 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: --> http://portableapps.com/node/25917?page=1#comment-166209
23:30:07 <ZachThibeau> I know I'm leaving it for chris
23:30:30 <ZachThibeau> I can't do anything but lock the topic etc I can't ban users
23:31:51 <gluxon> Oh.
23:32:07 <gluxon> Moderators should be able to ban or delete users though.
23:32:19 <gluxon> Admins are for web site managing + Moderator jobs.
23:32:21 <ZachThibeau> user banning is only available for website Administrators IE John or Chris
23:38:02 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: I'm thinking about using wxWidgets, should I go for it? :)
23:38:19 <ZachThibeau> WxWidgets is pretty good
23:38:47 <gluxon> Any downsides? The features look really cool.
23:39:24 <ZachThibeau> well personally I'm working with the svn of wxwidgets which is 2.9.1 and is not the official stable version but it includes some fairly nice features
23:39:55 <ZachThibeau> another toolkit is qt, qt is good but requires too much deps and is a huge download the sdk on windows is over 500 megs
23:41:05 <ZachThibeau> both though are pretty good solutions for cross platform stuff