IRC Log from 2010-12-27

00:02:06 <Horusofoz> It won't blow your computer up... At least I'm 78% sure it won't ;)
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00:43:16 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: the "Or" was from three characters before the doctype (i.e. at the start of the document) that I imagine slipped in accidentally when John was editing the banner. Naturally it doesn't style nicely. John's fixed it now.
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01:58:33 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
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06:53:55 <JohnTHaller> Hey ChrisMorgan, how do you feel about this 2nd point? http://portableapps.com/node/26017#comment-166651
06:57:13 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: at present I feel it's better to have Other\Source practically a uniform black box, with a notion that in the future it may even become entirely unnecessary.
06:59:07 <JohnTHaller> Ok
06:59:28 <JohnTHaller> What about the whole GPL issue in readme? Since it implies the app is GPL as well.
07:01:33 <ChrisMorgan> I'll fix that for 2.1
07:18:40 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Look ok to you? http://pastebin.com/cXqXM04T
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08:08:04 <pa_6558> Hello
08:10:04 <pa_6558> I have a question to the subect of Hedgewars Portable
08:11:12 <pa_6558> How come a directory "Hedgewars" was created when using Hedgewars Portable?
08:11:57 <JohnTHaller> Where was it created?
08:12:01 <pa_6558> System Windows 7, directory /Users/[name]/Hedgewars
08:12:46 <JohnTHaller> Sure it wasn't Documents\Hedgewars? That is created while Hedgewars is running and removed when it closes
08:12:53 <pa_6558> Content: Data, Demos, Logs, Saves, Screenshots, Teams
08:13:08 <JohnTHaller> Hedgewars stores it'
08:13:43 <JohnTHaller> it's data in %Documents%\Hedgewares. So the launcher moves settings in and out of there on start and exit. Works fine on my Win7 machine, for example.
08:13:55 <pa_6558> No, Documents clean
08:14:07 <JohnTHaller> Did you move Documents to a custom location or anything?
08:14:25 <JohnTHaller> Or is it in /Users/[name]/Documents?
08:14:41 <pa_6558> I'll check
08:15:50 <pa_6558> "Documents" is location of /Users/[name]/Documents so no. I'll try to reproduce this issue
08:16:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, just checked and mine is moving in and out of Documents\Hedgewars on Win7 x64 Ultimate. Try deleting any copies in Documents and [name] and relaunch the portable version
08:18:09 <pa_6558> Reproduced. "Documents" is clean on start and exit. But /Users/[name]/Hedgewars is still created. Now i'll try with fresh install
08:20:32 <JohnTHaller> Ok. I have a possible fix if it still occurs.
08:23:37 <pa_6558> Fresh install - it still occured. File: HedgewarsPortable_0.9.14.1.paf, System: Win7 Prof, ver 6.1 x32
08:24:16 <JohnTHaller> Hmm. Ok, could you try this. Browse into HedgewarsPortable\App\AppInfo\Launcher and open up the HedgewarsPortable.ini file in your favorite text editor
08:25:24 <pa_6558> ok
08:25:52 <JohnTHaller> In the 3rd section called DirectoriesMove, after the line HedgewarsDocs=%DOCUMENTS%\Hedgewars paste in a new line below it with HedgewarsAppData=%APPDATA%\Hedgewars
08:25:58 <JohnTHaller> The end result is this: http://pastebin.com/idTqRHSB
08:26:59 <pa_6558> Done
08:27:32 <JohnTHaller> Remove the [name]\Hedgewars folder from your local PC. Try Hedgewars Portable again.
08:27:34 <pa_6558> Relaunch application?
08:27:43 <JohnTHaller> On exit, it should remove it./
08:29:02 <pa_6558> Done. Problem persists. Directory is still there.
08:29:11 <JohnTHaller> After exit?
08:29:51 <pa_6558> Yes. 6 folders, 4 files it there.
08:29:52 <JohnTHaller> And are you sure the app is closing (check Task Manager to be sure it didn't hang on close)
08:30:52 <JohnTHaller> And, I did it wrong :(. The new line I should have had you add is: HedgewarsUserProfile=%USERPROFILE%\Hedgewars
08:31:20 <pa_6558> Task manager shows clean exit
08:31:21 <JohnTHaller> So close, clean and try the app again with that line. It should remove on exit and wind up in HWP\Data\HedgewarsUserProfile
08:31:32 <pa_6558> ok
08:33:11 <pa_6558> Hmmm... Seems to resolve this issue. ;-)
08:33:45 <JohnTHaller> Cool. I'll see if I can determine the root cause. The only downside is that your saved game set will be different on your home PC than other PCs.
08:34:19 <JohnTHaller> If you can determine anything unique about your PC that may cause this, please post a bug report in the forums so we can fully solve this for you.
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08:35:23 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Did you get my email ref: RedNotebook?
08:35:39 <pa_6558> Yes. The settings are written, but none folder is left on drive. It worked. Thank You.
08:35:40 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Yeah, you think it's good for stable release? Does the dev want us hosting?
08:36:28 <pa_6558> I don't see anything special about my computer and system ;-)
08:36:49 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Yes it is all set and released by him, currenlty he has us linked as his portable version on his main download site
08:37:22 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: All I need to do is have him update teh address to teh official page if released
08:37:26 <JohnTHaller> pa_6558: We haven't had any other reports, so something else may be going on somewhere. Maybe Hedgewars itself has an issue with your Documents directory and is falling back to USERPROFILE
08:37:39 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: So we're gonna be hosting it for now, correct?
08:38:46 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: we will host he will point to us
08:39:10 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: so more exposure to PortableApps
08:39:20 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Ok, then I think we'll go gold with it tomorrow. I didn't want to do it this weekend since not as many people will see the news announcement :)
08:40:41 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Sweet once it is done will have him change link frommy dev page to the official page...already have close to 40 dl of hte beta :)
08:40:59 <JohnTHaller> There will be tens of thousands within a week or so.
08:41:32 <vf2nsr> nice
08:42:06 <vf2nsr> BTW is there any way I can ssee the download stats for my apps that are now official? miss not seeing them in my SF page :)
08:42:30 <JohnTHaller> They're on our SF page., Just go to files and click on the lil graph icon next to em.
08:43:00 <vf2nsr> oh nevernoticed will have to look
08:43:13 <vf2nsr> Hey you getting hit with this blizzard in NY?
08:43:20 <vf2nsr> Maine expecting2 feet
08:43:39 <JohnTHaller> Over a foot. 40mph winds at the moment
08:44:03 <vf2nsr> yup here too
08:44:28 <vf2nsr> so I need to go to the PA SF page for the graph?\s?
08:44:39 <JohnTHaller> SF PA page, then Files.
08:44:44 <JohnTHaller> New file manager has integrated stats
08:45:14 <vf2nsr> kk just like my oage
08:50:25 <JohnTHaller> alright, I must sleep. Gnight all
08:51:10 <pa_6558> Gnight
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08:51:28 <vf2nsr> night
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16:10:40 <pa_3494> was there just a malware attempt on the homepage?
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17:40:20 <Pyromaniac> question: I see I can create blogs and stories now. Does this mean (not that I'm going to do this) I can just release an app? Gizmokid2005 ZachThibeau ?
17:40:35 <Gizmokid2005> Pyromaniac: nope
17:40:40 <Gizmokid2005> since you can't post to the SF page, etc
17:41:07 <Pyromaniac> Ah only John and Chris can?
17:41:14 <Gizmokid2005> I believe so
17:42:12 <Pyromaniac> How can I see how many downloads I have of Smart Defrag?
17:42:22 <Pyromaniac> john is hosting it on PA.c
17:42:30 <Gizmokid2005> check the files page on the SF project
17:42:45 <Pyromaniac> but it's not uploaded there
17:42:54 <Gizmokid2005> oh...then I don't know
17:48:28 <gluxon> I really wish he didn't surprise developers by just releasing their apps on the front page. :(
17:51:22 <ZachThibeau> it's 31 days of appness live with it
17:51:57 <Pyromaniac> gluxon: what?
17:52:04 <ZachThibeau> anyways my goose is cooked
17:52:10 <ZachThibeau> literally :P
17:52:25 <ZachThibeau> I'm having goose for dinner and I'm going to eat
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19:39:11 <pa_8826> Hello
19:39:30 <pa_8826> how can I delete the U3 partition I have?
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19:59:52 <Alcasar> Is there a way to connect firefox with wget when both are portable? I tried flashgot but it doesn't see wget
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21:55:47 <JacobMastel> clear
21:55:49 <JacobMastel> /clear
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