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05:23:32 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-01_-_daphne_portable_1.47
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05:45:41 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Are you aware that Neverball doesn't show an icon in the menu? Neverputt seems to show one fine for me though.
05:47:41 <JohnTHaller> Really? That's odd.
05:47:59 <JacobMastel> Yeah.
05:48:12 <JacobMastel> No messed up glob or anything.
05:48:14 <JohnTHaller> Ack. Duplicate appicon.ico and call the copy appicon1.ico.
05:48:20 <JacobMastel> Alright
05:48:31 <JohnTHaller> I forgot to include it. And the current platform accidentally uses the ico instead of the png.
05:49:32 <JacobMastel> That fixed it.
05:49:46 <JacobMastel> You had an appicon and an appicon2
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05:50:49 <JacobMastel> Did you catch that last bit?
05:51:29 <JohnTHaller1> yeah, there are supposed to be appicon appicon1 appicon2
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05:51:56 <JacobMastel> Sorry wasn't sure since you came in again.
06:09:39 <JohnTHaller> yeah, my internet hiccups around 1 every night
06:10:12 <JacobMastel> Could be worse. Try Clearwire... :P
06:10:30 <JacobMastel> Congrats on your 31 days of appness btw. Pretty impressive schedule.
06:10:46 <JohnTHaller> 32 now :)
06:10:56 <JohnTHaller> Did Daphne tonight: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-01_-_daphne_portable_1.47
06:11:15 <JacobMastel> Ah true forgot about that one.
06:12:29 <JacobMastel> I'm kind of surprised no one has really touched AHK Portable.
06:12:48 <JohnTHaller> I've been working through these: http://portableapps.com/node/11772
06:13:22 <JohnTHaller> Any chance you could update yours for release? http://portableapps.com/node/11772
06:13:46 <JacobMastel> I totally forgot about that list... Update which?
06:13:51 <JacobMastel> The one I released a couple days ago?
06:14:02 <JohnTHaller> Oh hang on...
06:14:08 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/11772#comment-74208
06:14:10 <JohnTHaller> There
06:14:29 <JacobMastel> Oh yeah.
06:14:55 <JohnTHaller> I've picked off a ton of the older ones and completely redone them. And just updated some others to get them ready. It's a lot of work, though.
06:15:37 <JacobMastel> t3 is a dead project and is really glitchy in win7.
06:15:48 <JacobMastel> I'll look at tick 5 again.
06:16:47 <JacobMastel> Stickies is ready, and I think AHK is ready, but no one has tested AHK.
06:17:55 <JohnTHaller> You have permission from the author on stickies right?
06:17:59 <JacobMastel> Yes.
06:18:08 <JohnTHaller> Ok, think I'll post that one tomorrow then.
06:18:18 <JohnTHaller> AHK maybe not many people use it
06:18:44 <JacobMastel> I'm guessing so. It was popular when I first released it a long time ago. That's more why I was surprised than anything.
06:19:51 <JacobMastel> Tick5 is a dead project and unsupported on Vista and Win7. Messing with it really quickly it seems to work fine on both. Do you still want it updated?
06:20:46 <JohnTHaller> Unsupported how?
06:20:56 <JohnTHaller> Just because the author doesn't support it doesn't mean it doesn't work fine.
06:21:19 <JacobMastel> The author only lists it as working on 98 through XP. Since it hasn't been updated in that long it is technically unsupported...
06:21:23 <JohnTHaller> One major reason is that some older apps wrote settings to their app directly way back when and never updated for WinVista/7 which don't permit that. In our world, that's not a problem.
06:21:32 <JohnTHaller> Nah, we don't go by that.
06:21:34 <JacobMastel> It seems to work for me though.
06:21:47 <JohnTHaller> app directory. not app directly, I meant.
06:22:46 <JacobMastel> Okay. That makes sense. I'll have it updated soon as I can.
06:23:32 <JohnTHaller> You gonna use PAL or keep custom?
06:23:58 <JacobMastel> I'll just switch to PAL.
06:24:14 <JacobMastel> There's no real reason not to.
06:24:16 <JohnTHaller> They should be pretty easy. And it'll help you get more familiar with PAL, too.
06:24:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I've been doing that myself to my old stuff.
06:24:48 <JohnTHaller> Wish Chris could finish up 2.1 and have it go stable. Really like to get the quick close open bug fixed that's hitting Opera./
06:25:16 <JacobMastel> Do you have someone good at graphics on the team? It would be awesome to have a new icon for Tick5. It's a terrible single size resoultion.
06:25:35 <JacobMastel> Understandable... That makes two Opera bugs...
06:26:17 <JohnTHaller> Two?
06:26:29 <JohnTHaller> Just the one. It's the one mentioned in the forums that causes profile loss.
06:26:33 <JacobMastel> The one with the downloads window staying open. Hang on I'll find the link.
06:28:02 <JacobMastel> This one is separate from the one that blew up recently isn't it?
06:28:02 <JacobMastel> http://portableapps.com/node/25551
06:29:45 <JohnTHaller> That one is already fixed.
06:30:02 <JacobMastel> Oh okay.
06:30:06 <JohnTHaller> Fixed in the 11 Betas actually with the updated PAL 2.1 Beta 2. Just the close/open issue now.
06:31:10 <JacobMastel> I'm not really a big Opera user myself so I haven't really messed around with it. Basically it's just closing the window and then reopening it too fast?
06:32:45 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. The launcher is caught while Opera is shutting down moving the files. A new instance starts and thinks it's fresh and copies defaultdata in. In theory anyway. It only happens if you close and immediately reopen.
06:32:59 <JohnTHaller> That's why only a couple people had it happen, because there's generally no reason to do that.
06:34:04 <JacobMastel> Are you going to be getting rid of the suites with the new Platform?
06:34:24 <JohnTHaller> They'll be on the fly using the updater.
06:34:40 <JacobMastel> Alright I figured it would be something like that. Seems much easier to me.
06:35:50 <JohnTHaller> Got a new Tick 5 icon for ya...
06:36:05 <JacobMastel> Already?
06:36:11 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Tick5.ico
06:36:54 <JohnTHaller> Actually, skip that. Use this it has the PNGs too: http://portableapps.com/temp/Tick5Icon.7z
06:37:21 <JacobMastel> Firefox doesn't want to download that...
06:37:37 <JacobMastel> Copied into the url bar and I just get a messy page.
06:37:41 <JohnTHaller> Don't worry, if it comes up in the browser as chars. Just wait til it finishes and do save as
06:37:50 <JacobMastel> Alright
06:38:17 <JohnTHaller> Happens when the server and Firefox can't agree on what the file is.
06:38:38 <JacobMastel> Yeah I guess. Works fine your way thanks. Never had that problem before.
06:38:45 <JohnTHaller> I did a slightly different image for the 128 that is basically a superset of the 16/32/48 image. I have a 75 here, too, for the story, all ready,
06:39:15 <JacobMastel> They look much better thanks. And right point taken I'll get on it right now :P.
06:39:46 <JohnTHaller> I just set Tick5 to use the larger window mode, two human players and recreated the arrangement in the app's own icon. Just took a couple mins :)
06:40:04 <JohnTHaller> I'm pretty happy with the 128 myself
06:41:10 <JacobMastel> I think it'd be cool with PortableApps logos myself.. :P
06:41:17 <JacobMastel> The game itself I mean.
06:41:25 <JohnTHaller> Hehe
06:42:28 <JohnTHaller> Nah, we like to keep them as normal when we can. Maybe add a theme if there is enough interest. Only ones we changed were Jooleem (so color blind could use it) and CoolPlayer+ because the original theme was so bad,
06:45:52 <JacobMastel> Yeah makes sense. No need to recreate the wheel.
06:49:17 <JohnTHaller> Anybody else around?
06:54:37 <JacobMastel> Looks like tick5 stores its settings in C:\Users.
06:54:49 <JohnTHaller> yuck
06:55:09 <JohnTHaller> MAY be able to redirect via APPDIR or USERPROFILE
06:55:15 <JacobMastel> C:\Users\{Name} actually. Sorry search fail
06:55:22 <JohnTHaller> I did that with an app I lreleased in the last few days
07:00:43 <JacobMastel> Alright all that's left is the installer and then I'll post up Tick5
07:00:49 <JacobMastel> Oh and the helpfile...
07:01:38 <JohnTHaller> May start autogenerating them.
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07:01:50 <JacobMastel> That would be awesome.
07:02:12 <JacobMastel> Could that be done through PAL or would it need to be done separately?
07:02:46 <JohnTHaller> pal generator could. or the installer
07:03:59 <JacobMastel> I would think it would be better placed in the pal generator.
07:05:24 <JohnTHaller> Ok, must sleep. Gnight all
07:05:34 <JacobMastel> Night John.
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19:16:34 <Simeon> hi all and a happy new year!
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19:58:51 <Simeon> hi online-Guy
20:01:21 <Online-Guy> Hi
20:01:29 <Online-Guy> I have something to ask
20:01:39 <Simeon> what?
20:01:50 <Simeon> just go ahead and ask
20:02:22 <Online-Guy> waite
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20:12:18 <Online-Guy> When somebody records Home DVD movies on empty DVDs. Then you can burn a copy with a DVD burner or what ever they are your home movies. You made them. But I mean to copy commercial DVDs there is software called DVDFab it decrypting copy-protected DVD movie. I was to believe that is completely illegal
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20:13:10 <Simeon> it is illegal in most countries I believe.
20:14:09 <Online-Guy> It is here to in Sweden
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20:15:21 <Online-Guy> Finally beta 6 will come how awesome is that
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20:16:27 <Simeon> awsome indeed.
20:16:51 <Online-Guy> And they finally added catogories
20:23:11 <Online-Guy> I I have the habit of using I own themes
20:26:14 <Online-Guy> I have the habit of using my own themes
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20:39:35 <Online-Guy> bye
20:39:44 <Simeon> bye
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21:00:16 <Simeon> gnight all
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21:40:03 <Nate108> is there a portable virtual os program available?
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21:40:59 <ZachThibeau> most require drivers really.... ok leave
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22:54:30 <pa_1619> hey, question: how do you change the menu theme?
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22:55:13 <pa_1619> how do you change the menu theme?
22:55:29 <gluxon> pa_1619: What version of the platform are you using?
22:55:47 <pa_1619> 1.6.1.0
22:55:56 <pa_1619> version 1.6.1.0
22:56:21 <gluxon> On the menu, click on Options.
22:57:09 <pa_1619> ok
23:00:00 <gluxon> pa_1619: Sorry, don't do that. I was thinking of the 2.0 Beta.
23:00:04 <gluxon> Open up your drive.
23:00:11 <pa_1619> ok
23:00:15 <gluxon> And double click on the "PortableApps" folder
23:00:27 <gluxon> Then "PortableApps.com", "Data", "Theme"
23:00:42 <pa_1619> ok
23:00:44 <gluxon> Extract the theme file you downloaded, and place the files in there, then restart the menu.
23:01:14 <pa_1619> ok thx
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