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02:19:43 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
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03:41:37 <auscompgeek> whoa
03:41:51 <auscompgeek> i just realised there's a whole bunch of new apps
03:49:34 <Suiseiseki> lol auscompgeek
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04:08:00 <Jacobm001> Does anyone know if kai is still supporting universal extracter?
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04:09:29 <JacobMastel> !?
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04:11:17 <JohnTHaller> Don't know offhand. We don't use it for any of our work.
04:11:35 <JacobMastel> It can be convienient at times.
04:11:50 <JacobMastel> Sometimes it'll pull things out of files 7-zip won't.
04:11:58 <JohnTHaller> It shouldn't be used for any PA.c work since it will often not pull the full app from the installer.
04:12:13 <JohnTHaller> We install and pull the files from that for lots of stuff.
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04:19:47 <JacobMastel> Would it be better to have T^3 start full screen or windowed?
04:23:16 <JacobMastel> And may I add to the readme.txt file?
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04:48:47 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: I'm not sure why yet, but using PAL to hide the cmd window hides the entire T^3 app.
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05:04:15 <JacobMastel> T^3 has been udpated :) http://portableapps.com/node/26114
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05:15:45 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: I found the file it needs to be in the Windows directory...
05:16:03 <JohnTHaller> Sure it won't work in the app directory? The last release you did worked on WIn7
05:16:23 <JacobMastel> Yeah let me take a look at my last release.
05:24:55 <JacobMastel> Should be fixed now.
06:12:38 <JohnTHaller> Today's release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-03_-_spybot_portable_1.6.2
06:13:15 <JacobMastel> :D
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06:58:42 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, since you released Spybot I thought I'd let you know. It doesn't seem they're going to change the stuff being left behind in %PROGRAMFILES%. I was going to post their response in the thread but time got away from me and I forgot.
06:59:03 <Scriptdaemon> But since I was able to handle it I don't suppose it matters anyway.
07:03:19 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: Yeah, I think we're ok.
07:04:11 <Scriptdaemon> Are you worried about the eventlog stuff it leaves behind?
07:04:19 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: Please send them a note letting them know it's up, that we added their donation page and some appropriate screenshots and the license is included. And that we're happy for any comments or requests for changes. Also if they want to link to it from their download page, we can provide the graphics.
07:04:29 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: I thought it was all handled
07:04:37 <JohnTHaller> oh you mean PC eventlog
07:04:41 <JohnTHaller> Nah, I think that is ok
07:05:04 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah. Everything but that is handled. So you're saying I shouldn't worry about it?
07:05:28 <Scriptdaemon> And yeah, I was going to let them know anyway. I'll do that now
07:05:46 <JohnTHaller> Nope. Windows is supposed to log system changes in its event log. And this is making system changes. SO it works as designed. This is one app that is supposed to be non-stealth when used to fix things.
07:05:59 <Scriptdaemon> Alright, cool.
07:06:26 <Scriptdaemon> Also, that's the point with some of its other features anyway (e.g. immunization).
07:06:47 <Scriptdaemon> I wonder if I can talk them into figuring out a way to do that for portable FF.
07:07:45 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it would be at a consistent relative location to it when run portably. We can pass in an env var for it that they can look for in their code.
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07:18:50 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, email sent. They take a day or two to get back to me on average, but I'll let you know if anything needs changing and if they're willing to work with us for Firefox, Portable Edition and so on.
07:19:55 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool
07:20:19 <JohnTHaller> We like em happy. So we try and present the app in the best way. And get them donations if we can.
07:20:31 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
07:20:38 <Scriptdaemon> "behaviour" What? Did Chris win? =P
07:21:07 <JohnTHaller> copypasta from their own site
07:21:20 <Scriptdaemon> Hehe.
07:22:30 <Scriptdaemon> Maybe after some time has passed I can give them download statistics as well.
07:22:47 <JohnTHaller> We'll have em publicly viewable probably next month
07:23:24 <Scriptdaemon> Oh nice.
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07:53:51 <JohnTHaller> gnight al
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10:00:25 <Server-3> HI
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10:40:21 <pa_6326> help
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11:18:52 <Erik_> I have troubble downloading openoffice portable. Have tried different mirrors. Any suggestions?
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14:41:20 <pa_7522> thx you thx you thx you
14:41:30 <pa_7522> YOu finally got Spybot S&D
14:42:02 <JohnTHaller> you're welcome pa_7522
14:42:27 <JohnTHaller> scriptdaemon finally got the last of the bugs fixed about 2 weeks ago. it was a difficult app to fully portablize properly
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14:55:12 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, just installed Spybot S&D and after the installation VLC Portable launched. THink it happened also before with another app, after the installation. Is that a known bug?
14:56:22 <JohnTHaller> Nope. ANd I just installed SpyBot alongside VLC on my drive. Nothing happened. Plkease post a detailed bug report in the forums.
14:56:43 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, ok I will test this a bit more and report it.
14:58:05 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, total downloads of portable apps aren't shown for every app. Is there a threshold or something or configuration to show/hide it?
14:58:29 <JohnTHaller> It's all manual
14:58:38 <Thasmo> ah ok
15:02:06 <Thasmo> ah JohnTHaller, stickies portable got alarms for notes. woohoo :>
15:02:28 <JohnTHaller> I think PNotes does, too.
15:03:18 <Thasmo> do u use one of em? any favourite?
15:04:07 <JohnTHaller> I don't offhand. PNotes is part of the Suite and open source. But a lot of people prefer Stickies. I think stickies has been around longer and may be a bit more feature-rich. Pnotes is open source and better multi-lingual.
15:04:40 <Thasmo> Yeah I just cant' find the option to change the language in stickies :>
15:04:50 <JohnTHaller> Read the homepage. It
15:04:52 <JohnTHaller> s manual.
15:05:49 <Thasmo> ah ok thx
15:07:20 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, sorry for the load of questions. xD They're just coming all up by accident. xD Do you know Postbox? Would it be possible to make the Postbox Express version portable?
15:09:00 <JohnTHaller> We'd need permission. Also don't know how well they keep up with Thunderbird proper security updates. They were horribly behind for a while, which made us lose interest in a portable version. Then they switched to paid. Not sure where things are now.
15:09:45 <Thasmo> I see.
15:10:05 <Thasmo> At least the express version had no updates for a while indeed - I use it quite a while.
15:10:34 <JohnTHaller> I honestly didn't think they were gonna stick around, so I didn't really even check it out. I'm happy with Thunderbird.
15:11:06 <JohnTHaller> Express doesn't seem to offer anything over TB, honestly. Plus TB extensions can add many of the features of the full version.
15:12:13 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, indeed. But I love Postbox express for it's responsiveness and the GUI. Tbh thunderbird 3 sucks a lot the last time I uesd it compared to Postbox.
15:12:31 <JohnTHaller> Actually express is still 1.0.1 and built back in July of 2010. Which means it has unpatched security bugs in TB core.
15:12:58 <JohnTHaller> Postbox is based on TB 3.1 I believe. 3.1 is better than 3.0.
15:14:17 <Thasmo> Ye I guess you're right. :>
15:14:47 <JohnTHaller> If 1.0.1 is based on TB3, there have been 6 security bug fixes since then and TB3 has since been dropped (meaning no more security fixes)
15:15:20 <JohnTHaller> If it's based on TB3.1, there have been 7 security fixes since release.
15:15:44 <JohnTHaller> I don't think the express version is being updated anymore.
15:17:12 <JohnTHaller> TB3.0 was messy and felt weird. TB3.1 is much more solid.
15:21:36 <Thasmo> Alright, maybe worth a new try then.
15:24:46 <JohnTHaller> We could ask em what the status is with Express
15:26:45 <Thasmo> we could, ye. :>
15:34:45 <Thasmo> argh they even don't have a general contact email address - not sure which one to use; http://www.postbox-inc.com/contact
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19:15:13 <Simeon> hi all
19:18:13 <ZachThibeau> howdy Simeon
19:18:21 <Simeon> hi Zach
19:19:35 <Simeon> I should do more apps - trying to get Griffiths lang switching into PAL. I use it not often enough to get it working as fast as I wish...
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19:30:20 <ZachThibeau> hey joby_toss
19:30:46 <Simeon> Does anyone know what variable PAL falls back on if launched without the platform?
19:32:35 <ZachThibeau> whatever is defined as the fallback other than that I don't really know too much
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19:33:00 <Simeon> problem is griffith doesnt have a file to read from - it just uses the LANG variable.
19:34:09 <ZachThibeau> well then to be honest I don't know then
19:34:28 <Simeon> thanks for trying! :)
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19:54:50 <markomlm> happy new year @all
19:55:13 <ZachThibeau> same to you markomlm
19:58:49 <Simeon> Dir auch Marko!
19:59:44 <Simeon> I give up - have to wait till Chris gets here.
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20:12:08 <markomlm> Simeon:Danke :-)
20:14:03 <Simeon> @markomlm:How is *office coming?
20:14:17 <JohnTHaller> hi marko
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20:32:43 <Simeon> gnight all
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20:43:18 * JohnTHaller is considering which app to release today. I'm thinking I may finally touch up and post Private Browsing.
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21:00:43 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller, thats a firefox plugin?
21:00:45 <Thasmo> or addon
21:00:50 <JohnTHaller> Separate app
21:01:03 <Thasmo> what does it do?`
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21:01:19 <JohnTHaller> Uses Firefox Portable proper. Install next to it. Has a pre-built better private profile with preconfigured extensions and settings. Shows up with different branding.
21:03:10 <Thasmo> Is there a non-portable version available? is there webpage/url?
21:03:31 <JohnTHaller> Nope. It's my own creation.
21:03:44 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/22520
21:08:36 <Thasmo> ah I see.
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23:45:35 <Kiriko> Hey guys I am new at this chat and I know that I need to register my nick but I do not know how to. Can you help me?
23:45:59 <JacobMastel> Yeah type in "/msg NickServ register"
23:46:04 <JacobMastel> No quotes
23:46:26 <JacobMastel> Sorry that was wrong.
23:46:48 <JacobMastel> "/msg NickServ register {password} {email}"
23:46:54 <JacobMastel> No quotes.
23:58:19 <Kiriko> I keep getting "-NickServ- {alienspred@hotmail.com} is not a valid email address."
23:58:51 <Kiriko> And I use this e-mail every day
23:59:10 <gluxon|gone> Remove the brackets.
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