IRC Log from 2011-01-09
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04:55:19 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app has been posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-08_-_rocksndiamonds_portable_3.3.0.1
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05:00:33 <KindOne> I'm loving all these new apps, you guys rock
05:00:50 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing KindOne ;)
05:01:34 <KindOne> What about creating a little
05:01:43 <KindOne> blah
05:02:03 <JohnTHaller> huh?
05:02:26 <KindOne> What about creating a little thing where you can browse all the avaliable apps, and download/install them from that, without having to download from the website ?
05:02:36 <KindOne> I hit the ENTER key too fast.
05:02:46 <JohnTHaller> I'll just say... keep an eye out ;)
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05:23:16 <azizLIGHTS> i set up my firefoxportable on my hdd (installed extensions, changed settings etc), and moved the firefoxportable dir to a truecrypt container on a flash drive and now some things look different? my settings are gone it seems (menu editing, live ip address is missing from statusbar, context menus are in wrong order)
05:23:56 <azizLIGHTS> can someone tell me why its also saying for extensions that not compatible with 3.6.13 when they are on my desktop vs on truecrypt
05:24:01 <JohnTHaller> It's not supposed to be 'moved' relatively. You install to X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable and when you switch PCs it ends up as P:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable
05:24:21 <JohnTHaller> But if you move it from X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable to L:\PortableSoftware\FirefoxPortable, some stuff will break.
05:24:27 <azizLIGHTS> ...
05:24:42 <azizLIGHTS> this should be told in the firefoxportable setup
05:24:51 <azizLIGHTS> i assumed portable means portable
05:24:59 <azizLIGHTS> why does moving it from here there make/break it
05:25:08 <JohnTHaller> Portable software has never meant you can move it around between directories. It means you install it to a portable device and move that between PCs.
05:25:43 <JohnTHaller> Because there are full paths all over Firefox's internal settings for things like extensions and stuff. We portablize the drive letter.
05:25:58 <azizLIGHTS> i see...
05:26:06 <azizLIGHTS> so what advice you got? start over
05:26:21 <JohnTHaller> Most portable software isn't that advanced and can move between directories because the paths internally don't matter. But some complex stuff can not.
05:26:39 <JohnTHaller> You can move it back to the directory it was in before and it should work again.
05:26:57 <JohnTHaller> The absolute BEST thing to do is always install your apps to a PortableApps directory in the root of your drive.
05:27:10 <azizLIGHTS> anyway i can change those full paths stored
05:27:21 <JohnTHaller> Then when you want to update, you can just download and run a new installer and it'll automatically find it.
05:27:24 <azizLIGHTS> so i dont have to redo the entire install/config
05:27:47 <JohnTHaller> Probably not. Move it back where it was, the exact relative path it was before. And then run the launcher again. It should all start working.
05:28:09 <JohnTHaller> Some extensions are less portable than others. But most should work properly once moved back and the launcher updating the drive letter.
05:28:59 <azizLIGHTS> isnt this worth noting in the setup, for the layperson
05:29:10 <JohnTHaller> Alternatively, you can manually adjust the internal files like prefs.js and extensions.rdf to the new relative path. Just be sure to maintain any double-up slashes or forward instead of back slashes in the paths (I can't recall offhand which FF uses).
05:29:45 <JohnTHaller> The layperson installs it to one drive and moves that drive around. Most laypersons use the PA.c Platform, which installs by default to the path I mentioned and then marshalls all apps into the same path.
05:31:25 <azizLIGHTS> lolz ok thanks for the info
05:31:26 <JohnTHaller> We're working on full path relativity for all apps (though intra-app stuff may still break), but it is not yet complete. The PA.c Launcher which we use to portablize apps is getting it in 2.1 (it's currently in 2.1 beta 2)
05:31:43 <azizLIGHTS> ah i see
05:31:54 <azizLIGHTS> looking forward to that
05:31:56 <JohnTHaller> That should be done this month. And then custom launchers (like FF and Chrome) will follow.
05:32:14 <JohnTHaller> It'll help with things like DropBox specifically as well as your situation.
05:32:29 <azizLIGHTS> theres a portableapps version of dropbox?
05:32:44 <JohnTHaller> No, I mean a lot of people install PortableApps.com to their dropbox drive.
05:32:56 <JohnTHaller> There will be a PA.c version of dropbox soon, too.
05:33:04 <azizLIGHTS> ah
05:33:15 <KindOne> My Portableapps folder is inside my dropbox folder :)
05:33:28 <azizLIGHTS> is it also inside truecrypt lol
05:34:04 <KindOne> Not Yet
05:34:50 <azizLIGHTS> very cool stuff :) alright so thats all i need for now. good luck all. thanks for info and bye
05:35:14 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Hope it works on the first try when you move it back, azizLIGHTS
05:36:02 <azizLIGHTS> oh, yes that the first thing i tried, it works on my desktop
05:36:35 <azizLIGHTS> ill just make a re-install on the flash drive, ill have to figure out how to mirror the settings opening the same firefox profile (vmware maybe)
05:36:40 <azizLIGHTS> anyway thanks guys
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05:36:52 <JohnTHaller> Ah good. If you duplicate that path inside your truecrypt container (which I assume is a drive letter) it'll move there just fine
05:36:53 <JohnTHaller> aww
05:38:47 <JohnTHaller> alright bed for me. gnight all
05:39:08 <OliverK> night
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05:40:56 <OliverK> .tell ZachTbibeau spam for you :) http://portableapps.com/node/17851#comment-167096
05:41:07 <OliverK> .tell ZachThibeau spam for you :) http://portableapps.com/node/17851#comment-167096
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07:18:04 <Kiriko> Hi guys
07:18:58 <Kiriko> is it posible to open a file to a specific program with a batch file
07:27:32 <OliverK> Kiriko: before I sign off, yes
07:28:13 <OliverK> you'll need to get the drive letter, then give the complete path to the program and the complete path to file you want opened
07:28:36 <OliverK> batch files are you scripts for the command shell, if you can do it with the shell, you can write a batch file for it
07:28:38 <OliverK> good night
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07:34:17 <Kiriko> here is a better example, Im trying to have the HTML help file from PortableApps.com Developers Kit (PAD-Kit ) to open in FirefoxPortable or in the browser of prefence of the user
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09:16:53 <taneth111> Anyone had experience with the replace function on PAL?
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16:23:50 <LOGAN> hi guys, any forum mod available?
16:24:45 <LOGAN> on the page http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-08_-_rocksndiamonds_portable_3.3.0.1 there's some russian reaction with a very dubious post title
16:34:42 <benedikt93> hmm, google translate says that the content is okay though
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16:34:54 <benedikt93> but the title indeed shouldn't stay like this
16:38:11 <benedikt93> .tell JohnTHaller you might want to change the title of http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-08_-_rocksndiamonds_portable_3.3.0.1#comment-167540 . The content seems to be ok though (according to google translate)
16:38:36 <benedikt93> ah, damn, the bot is absent
16:42:41 <benedikt93> Zach[AFK], ^
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17:38:25 <benedikt93> then lets retry
17:38:29 <benedikt93> .tell JohnTHaller you might want to change the title of http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-08_-_rocksndiamonds_portable_3.3.0.1#comment-167540 . The content seems to be ok though (according to google translate)
17:38:30 <GizmoBot> benedikt93: I'll pass that on when JohnTHaller is around.
17:38:49 <LOGAN> tx or any other mod will do
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18:14:14 <beejee> hello everyone!
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23:46:13 <Pyromaniac> hey JohnTHaller , you seen those bug posts in FocusWriter Portable right?
23:46:34 <Pyromaniac> I'm thinking the German one is a PAL bug
23:47:11 <JohnTHaller> I think it may be a config bug. When run sans PAP on my PC, it always resets to English.
23:47:15 <Pyromaniac> your thougts?
23:49:56 <Pyromaniac> also, if your ever at a loss for a noew portable app to release, ZoomIt Portable is ready: http://portableapps.com/node/25790
23:50:33 <JohnTHaller> I have not had time to review it. But the language switching in launcher.ini looked rough to me. All these double quotes all over the place.
23:51:06 <JohnTHaller> btw, you don't need to include "PortableApps.com Launcher: This portable app was made using the PortableApps.com Launcher" in your dev test posts
23:52:06 <Pyromaniac> k, well, I gotta go. adios
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