IRC Log from 2011-01-12
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00:37:15 <taneth111> Hello all
00:37:44 <sar3th> hi taneth111
00:37:55 <taneth111> Sup sar3th
00:38:11 <taneth111> Feels like it's been a while since I've actually talked to anyone on IRC... :P
00:40:23 <taneth111> ugh, vista >_> Brb, restart
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01:03:13 <sar3th> indeed taneth111
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01:08:58 <taneth111> Hello kracker[BDC]
01:09:06 <kracker[BDC]> hi
01:09:11 <kracker[BDC]> ..known as
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01:09:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> while we're at it :P
01:09:48 <kai_62656> :p
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01:10:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> wb gluxon
01:10:09 <gluxon> Thanks :)
01:10:10 <kai_62656> hi gluxon.
01:10:15 <gluxon> Hey Kai :)
01:10:59 <gluxon> Hm.. I've never seen TaffinFoxcroft on IRC, and I don't see kai_62656 on much anymore... this is a magical sight! :P
01:11:07 <kai_62656> heh
01:11:25 <kai_62656> I've been on, just not talking
01:11:26 <sar3th> heh
01:11:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> =D Seen HypnoToad? I go by a lot of names
01:13:54 <kai_62656> gluxon: can you test this? http://portableapps.com/node/24911 The author is really intrested in releasing it :P
01:14:20 <kai_62656> (freeware)
01:16:45 <gluxon> lol :P
01:17:08 <gluxon> I'm on Ubuntu, so WINE might not run the program properly.
01:17:16 <kai_62656> Hehe.
01:17:30 * TaffinFoxcroft wishes he could run linux...
01:17:31 <kai_62656> I use Windows and Kubuntu
01:18:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> How is Kubuntu?
01:18:56 <kai_62656> nice, but.. I think I like Ubuntu a bit better
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01:19:56 <TaffinFoxcroft> ah, not sure if my laptop could handle dual booting at the moment... otherwise I'd try it out :P
01:20:02 <kai_62656> xD
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03:53:36 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, did you see my fix for Spybot?
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03:54:01 <Scriptdaemon> And why do my PChat icons keep changing?! *Glares at ZachThibeau*
03:54:24 <pa_6769> is there any way to create folders in the PA menu?
03:54:51 <Scriptdaemon> pa_6769, not yet, but it's a planned feature.
03:55:25 <pa_6769> Thank you very much
03:55:28 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: I changed the icons because the old ones were not friendly enough to the colour blind, the ones I choose are stylish and makes it easier for the colour blind to differentiate the icons
03:55:46 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
03:56:11 <Scriptdaemon> I don't even remember updating PChat in awhile.
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03:56:12 <Scriptdaemon> lol
03:56:21 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: new icons?
03:56:27 <ZachThibeau> for PChat 1.4
03:56:39 <Scriptdaemon> Oh yeah, I do remember that.
03:57:00 <ZachThibeau> the old ones can be obtained from svn if you like the old tango ones
03:57:01 <Scriptdaemon> They make sense though, a police hat and a megaphone.
03:57:24 <ZachThibeau> the eye for irc operators (people that run irc servers that is)
03:57:38 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
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03:59:08 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller1, did you get my fix for Spybot?
03:59:32 <Scriptdaemon> -.-
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04:21:02 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: Is that updated launcher.ini all that is needed for the rev for all known bugs?
04:26:08 <Scriptdaemon> There's only one known bug, I thought? (Which is the one mentioned in that topic)
04:26:35 <Scriptdaemon> All the other 'problems' I encountered were invalid.
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04:30:47 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: Ah ok, cool. I should be able to post it in the am.
04:31:01 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, alright. :)
04:31:21 <JohnTHaller> it's really snowing here atm
04:31:49 <Scriptdaemon> I wish it snowed more in Southern California.
04:33:54 <BeckySanderlin`x> pfft
04:34:08 <BeckySanderlin`x> that srsly made me lol
04:34:29 <Scriptdaemon> Did you just pfft me? Pfft!
04:35:13 <BeckySanderlin`x> it just happened to come across my preview pane while i was tweet'n and it was an instant reaction..
04:35:26 <BeckySanderlin`x> like.. 'ok, take the snow we are getting to SoCal'
04:35:37 <Scriptdaemon> Ha.
04:36:12 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, what app's being released tonight?
04:36:22 <JohnTHaller> figuring it out now
04:36:38 <JohnTHaller> Was gonna do the pair of Maxthons today, but there's one bug left in each.
04:36:57 <Scriptdaemon> Blender is looking lonely. It needs some competition. Cough. >.>
04:37:06 <JohnTHaller> What?
04:37:10 <Scriptdaemon> K-3D.
04:37:10 <Scriptdaemon> lol
04:37:15 <JohnTHaller> Never heard of it
04:37:26 <Scriptdaemon> Sigh.
04:37:35 <Scriptdaemon> It's in the ready to release thread.
04:37:57 <JohnTHaller> I didn't see it there. It was in a list of yours.
04:38:08 <Scriptdaemon> I see how it is.
04:38:16 <Scriptdaemon> Have you looked at Angry IP Scanner yet?
04:38:30 <JohnTHaller> Yes, I don't like you any more so none of your apps will ever be released.... again... mwaaaahahahaha
04:38:39 <Scriptdaemon> Rude!
04:39:53 <Scriptdaemon> I'm going to put out a dev test of Xonotic's preview release soon. Regshot doesn't like me, so I have to guess where my apps store things and... I can't find where it stores things. lol
04:40:39 <JohnTHaller> I don't know about releasing Angry IP as it's like a 50/50 admin/cracker tool
04:41:08 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
04:41:23 <JohnTHaller> I think several antivirus and antimalware products block it, too
04:42:30 <Scriptdaemon> LMMS?
04:42:55 <JohnTHaller> Angry IP VirusTotal: http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=40dc213fe4551740e12cac575a9880753a9dacd510533f31bd7f635e743a7605-1294771317
04:43:18 <JohnTHaller> No way we can really release it, since nearly everything will delete it as you move between PCs.
04:43:30 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah that's pretty bad.
04:48:56 <JohnTHaller> Marked it as such and removed from the dev test page
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04:51:38 <JohnTHaller> Could do this: http://portableapps.com/node/22566
04:53:17 <Scriptdaemon> You could, but I'm pretty sure like half of the releases have been games. =P
04:53:49 <Scriptdaemon> over the last two months*
04:53:56 <JohnTHaller> True.
04:54:09 <Scriptdaemon> If you were to pick a game though, I'd do with that one.
04:54:13 <Scriptdaemon> go*
04:55:07 <JohnTHaller> Sure k-3d is ready?
04:55:47 <Scriptdaemon> It's been in testing for awhile, I've tested it and everything seems in order. The only thing is, nobody has commented in its thread.
04:56:02 <JohnTHaller> What OS did you test on?
04:56:25 <Scriptdaemon> I believe I've tried running in on XP and 7.
04:56:29 <Scriptdaemon> it*
04:56:39 <Scriptdaemon> If not, then at least 7.
04:56:46 <JohnTHaller> Wow, big app
04:56:54 <Scriptdaemon> Want me to look up the download stats?
04:57:01 <JohnTHaller> Sure
04:58:15 <Scriptdaemon> DT 1 - 273, DT 2 - 48
05:00:07 <ChrisMorgan> "PortScan-Angry", "AngryIPScanner", "SecurityRisk.AngryIPScanner!rem", "Tool.AngryIpscan", et cetera... charming.
05:00:09 <JohnTHaller> Ugh, drops me into Basic (non-Aero) mode
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05:00:38 <JohnTHaller> Been a while since I've seen an app do that
05:01:22 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: Did you find the same in your testing?
05:01:56 <Scriptdaemon> No. *Pats his Windows 7 laptop that he reverted back to the Windows Classic theme*
05:02:42 <JohnTHaller> That will frighten some people. But I think if we warn them it won't be so bad. And it's a nice app.
05:02:55 <JohnTHaller> It is English-only correct?
05:03:40 <Scriptdaemon> If I remember correctly.
05:04:04 <Scriptdaemon> It hasn't been updated in awhile (the base app), maybe they fixed that since then or I can submit a bug report.
05:04:07 <JohnTHaller> Why is K-3D in App\Manual?
05:04:21 <JohnTHaller> Hah, nvm wrong directory
05:04:34 <Scriptdaemon> ...What? O.o
05:04:34 <Scriptdaemon> Hold on.
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05:06:48 <Scriptdaemon> I'm not sure what just happened. Anyway, looking into it.
05:06:59 <JohnTHaller> No no
05:07:08 <JohnTHaller> It was me, I was looking at the PAL App directory
05:07:17 <Scriptdaemon> XD
05:07:48 <JohnTHaller> Did you UPX already?
05:08:31 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
05:09:19 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I'm going with K-3D. I like it. Launcher stuff looks good. No lang switching needed.
05:09:38 <JohnTHaller> you chat with the devs at all?
05:10:30 <Scriptdaemon> Actually I didn't. I'll let them know, but since nobody commented it wasn't a huge priority app for me, but I think it's done so might as well go for it.
05:11:24 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/K-3DPortable.jpg
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05:12:32 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
05:12:34 <Scriptdaemon> I like.
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05:24:01 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: You have XP handy to retest on? Mine fails but could be due to the VM driver
05:24:18 <Scriptdaemon> Not at the moment. =\
05:24:43 <Scriptdaemon> I get off work in about half an hour though, I can try then.
05:25:09 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: what do you need?
05:25:12 <JohnTHaller> It's 12:30 here and I need to sleep
05:25:39 <JohnTHaller> Planned release tonight is http://portableapps.com/node/23496 and I was trying to double-check it on XP.
05:26:12 <JohnTHaller> Tis big. And graphics intensive. Drops Vista/7 to basic mode. My XP install wouldn't run it right but I think that is due to the flakey VirtualBox graphics drive.
05:26:24 <OliverK> what do you need?
05:26:40 <OliverK> wow, that's going to take forever to download
05:26:59 <JohnTHaller> 53m download. Tis big. 344mb installed. Tis even bigger.
05:27:16 <Scriptdaemon> It's a 3D animation program!
05:27:41 <OliverK> yeah, I only have 1m/bit per sec
05:27:56 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, that'd be slow for ya unfortunately.
05:28:14 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm. Are we going for it anyway, or waiting for tomorrow?
05:28:29 <Scriptdaemon> I don't want to disturb your beauty sleep. =P
05:28:53 <JohnTHaller> It's just-hanging-on-to-my-sanity sleep :-P
05:33:33 <JohnTHaller> Also crashes if VirtualBox is running. But I have seen that before as well.
05:33:44 <JohnTHaller> Runs fine in Win2K VM. So it is a VB issue.
05:33:53 <Scriptdaemon> Awesome.
05:34:03 <Scriptdaemon> Well, not for VB.
05:37:38 <JohnTHaller> Ok, uploaded, icons up and screenshots up. Creating page.
05:54:30 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app has been posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-11_-_k-3d_portable_0.8.0.1
05:55:26 <Scriptdaemon> Time to clock out from work. Bye guys.
05:55:45 <Scriptdaemon> and gals* (Just in case)
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11:37:08 <tuttincoro> Anyone here use truecrypt?
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12:00:03 <Kiriko> Morning Guys!
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12:01:24 <Kiriko> I did not want to bump on the forum so ill ask here. Gizmokid2005 are you planing on updating RSSOwl 2M9 Portable?
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12:04:15 <tuttincoro> Kiriko: do u use truecrypt?
12:04:49 <Kiriko> not in long time
12:05:19 <Kiriko> y?
12:05:42 <tuttincoro> Kiriko: is it a good defense against virus infection for a usb stick?
12:06:15 <Kiriko> true cryp is just a safe for files
12:06:34 <Kiriko> it is not intended for protecting agains viruses
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12:08:12 <tuttincoro> Kiriko: once I mount a volume, can I protect it against viruses?
12:08:27 <Kiriko> truecryp will encrypt your documents from other people and not from viruses, for a virus can corrupt the file making it un usable
12:09:31 <tuttincoro> k thnx
12:09:47 <Kiriko> your welcome :)
12:14:44 <TaffinFoxcroft> You know you play too many MUDs when you keep alt-tabbing back to IRC and typing "look"
12:16:01 <tuttincoro> MUD/
12:16:02 <tuttincoro> ?
12:17:24 <TaffinFoxcroft> A MUD is a text-based game. It stands for Multi User Dungeon
12:17:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> :P
12:18:23 <Kiriko> lol and we learn something new every day :-D
12:18:38 <TaffinFoxcroft> That we do :)
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12:21:06 <tuttincoro> Heh
12:21:11 <tuttincoro> text games kinda bore me
12:21:19 <tuttincoro> No offense
12:21:25 <tuttincoro> My one colleague luvs 'em
12:21:33 <TaffinFoxcroft> Don't worry, they kinda bore me too
12:21:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> yet I'm somehow addicted
12:21:38 <tuttincoro> But I enjoy reading non-dynamic books
12:21:48 <tuttincoro> TaffinFoxcroft: you much into indie games?
12:21:54 <TaffinFoxcroft> Minecraft?
12:21:59 <tuttincoro> Hahahaha
12:22:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> XP
12:22:08 <tuttincoro> Well, not particularly Minecraft
12:22:11 <tuttincoro> But generally
12:22:23 <tuttincoro> (Cave Story and Minecraft inevitably get brought up)
12:22:57 <TaffinFoxcroft> Cave Story? Haven't heard of that one. World of Goo's pretty cool though
12:23:15 <tuttincoro> Yep, WoG is awesome, pity that its like 90% pirated
12:23:31 <tuttincoro> Cave Story's from about 2004ish
12:23:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> Yeah :( I picked up an actual copyof WoG for $5 and I love it
12:23:55 <tuttincoro> Combo platformer/rpg/shooter thingie in a retro style with a complex story and three different endings
12:24:05 <TaffinFoxcroft> Sounds pretty cool
12:24:23 <tuttincoro> 'tis
12:24:33 <tuttincoro> Took me a week to finish it, and I only ever found 2 endings
12:25:20 <tuttincoro> I've been totally addicted to Osmos for a while :p
12:25:20 <TaffinFoxcroft> Oooh, I'm liking the sound of this
12:25:29 <TaffinFoxcroft> I was a pretty big fan of Chrono Trigger too
12:25:59 <tuttincoro> Yes, CT-like, but more platform-y
12:27:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> I've seen Osmos before, is it good?
12:28:31 <tuttincoro> Well, I think so. It's very surreal and simple, although it gets quite harder later on
12:29:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> Cool :D Might have to look into it
12:30:34 <tuttincoro> You're a microscopic organism floating in a liquid. You can absorb other organisms if you're larger, but they'll absorb you if you're smaller. You move by expelling matter, which causes you to shrink a bit, so movement has to be calculated. You can also slow down and speed up time, and objects in the environment can attract or repel you
12:31:19 <TaffinFoxcroft> Sounds really cool
12:31:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> I'll have to get it and give it a play
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16:49:44 <Jessica_> Hello, I have downloaded the suite standard portableapps on a memory stick, and for some reason after about a month or two the program no longer runs.
16:50:03 <Jessica_> When I try and erase the memory stick an reinstall the program it won't allow me to do so.
16:51:22 <Jessica_> I've switched to a new memory stick, same size, but made by a different company and I haven't had any issues... so far.
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16:52:23 <Jessica_> Is there a certain capability i should be looking for as far as optimal memory sticks are concerned?
16:53:17 <BeckySanderlin`x> what do you mean?
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16:59:05 <Jessica_> Is there something I'm doing that is causing the memory sticks I download the portable apps on to stop working?
16:59:25 <BeckySanderlin`x> well. its been my experience
16:59:33 <BeckySanderlin`x> that mem sticks do go bad
16:59:50 <BeckySanderlin`x> i had a 4gb Sandisk Cruzer
17:00:02 <BeckySanderlin`x> that ive had for 3 years, wow. 4 now
17:00:06 <BeckySanderlin`x> that had PA on it
17:00:24 <BeckySanderlin`x> just a few months ago, it stopped working
17:00:25 <BeckySanderlin`x> meaning
17:00:35 <BeckySanderlin`x> i couldnt use it to open the PA menu
17:00:36 <BeckySanderlin`x> but
17:00:51 <BeckySanderlin`x> the information ( aps, data, docs ) were/are still on it
17:01:06 <BeckySanderlin`x> now being im on linux, i was/am able to obtain the data
17:01:13 <BeckySanderlin`x> but i cant access it on windows/wine
17:01:29 <BeckySanderlin`x> so i had to buy a new stick and transfer the data from my old to my new one
17:01:51 <BeckySanderlin`x>
17:02:10 <BeckySanderlin`x> so it may not be you doing anything. it just could be the first stick itself
17:02:57 <BeckySanderlin`x> are you able to use linux to view the first sticks data?
17:04:23 <Jessica_> I'm sort of at a loss due to the restrictions put on by the people who manage the IT 'stuff'.
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19:02:45 <Kiriko> hi guys i need help with fotografixportable can you help? http://portableapps.com/node/24143
19:05:19 <kAlug> seems that you need to create the Optional1 directory
19:07:01 <JohnTHaller> No. You NEVER need to manually create that.
19:08:12 <Kiriko> this is a first for me. I have not done any language suitches before :(
19:08:18 <JohnTHaller> Kiriko: You've misconfigured the installer.ini's optional files section. It's pointing to optional files that are not there. So it can't move them to the Optional1 directoryt while in compilation.
19:08:55 <JohnTHaller> (you never need to paste in the installer.nsi. Just the ultimate error you get and your appinfo.ini and installer.ini)
19:09:39 <Kiriko> ok
19:10:16 <JohnTHaller> Basically, you have defined that the installer will use Optional files. But you either haven't told it what or have incorrectly entered the filter so it's pointing at nothing.
19:11:01 <JohnTHaller> Side note: we only do optional language installers if the translations amount to about 20% of installed size or more.
19:11:46 <JohnTHaller> fotografixportable should not be using it as the languages are only about 60k
19:13:01 <Kiriko> ok so i can leave it as it is and let the user change the language manualy?
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19:13:17 <JohnTHaller> Optional installers have nothing to do with language switching.
19:20:07 <Kiriko> is there a portable application that i can take a look at that is has a simmilar setting?
19:20:24 <JohnTHaller> To what, you should NOT be using optional files with this release.
19:20:56 <JohnTHaller> You should remove everything from installer.ini except the DirectoriesToPreserve section.
19:21:09 <Kiriko> ok
19:21:23 <Kiriko> thank you guys for all your help :)
19:21:29 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
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